Horse Tracks 5/1/09
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 5:38 AM MDT
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DB - Here's a short clip (2m40s) of Josh McDaniels from the Broncos' first mini-camp, featuring some work with Kyle Orton and the WRs. Of course, The Slot Machine is the only guy he doesn't need to correct.
DP - The Broncos waived RB Selvin Young yesterday due to a neck injury which is not expected to heal before September. Well, the departure of Young and Andrew Pinnock trims the RB corps...now how crazy was it to draft Knowshon Moreno?
DB - As expected, Denver hired Matt Russell to be their director of college scouting. Russell, a former CU Buffs linebacker, has been a scout for the Patriots and Eagles.
BND - Russell is credited with convincing the staff in New England to draft Matt Cassell.
DP - Denver's second mini-camp begins today, which will be Josh McDaniels' first on-field look at his newest players.
DP - Klis has some quotes from Russell and Darcel McBath, notes on Matt Prater and Chris Baker.
CSUF - QB Tom Brandstater is excited to be a Denver Bronco.
ND - So is UFA-signing LB Lee Robinson from Alcorn State.
ECU - Here's a profile of another Broncos UFA signing, OT Stanley Bryant.
ESPN - John Clayton thinks teams will be watching Alphonso Smith to see whether it's worthwhile to trade future first-rounders. Right, because it's never been done before...sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't - just like any draft decision!!!
NFP - Mike Lombardi thinks the Broncos should be calling other teams regarding their extra defensive-tackles. Now before everyone flips out, keep in mind that they may already be doing so...
NFL - The Chefs signed C Eric Ghiaciuc, who started all 16 games last year for the Bungles.
KCS - So far, Chefs owner Clark Hunt is pleased with the job Scott Pioli is doing.
Y! - Sean Jensen profiles Nnamdi Asomugha and his excellent work with Oakland youths, as Clark Judge had done last week.
SFG - David White examines the contract ramifications for Oakland with their first-rounder Darrius Heyward-Bey.
SDUT - Roidhead Headhunter Shawne Merriman is ready to go.
SDUT - Vincent Jackson sought to have some blood-test evidence thrown out in his drunk-driving case.
Y! - Former Dolts LB Marques Harris signed a one-year deal with the 49ers.
NFL - Here are the offseason schedules for all 32 NFL teams.
Y! - Former longtime NFL writer Bob Oates passed away at the age of 93.
NFL - After removing the franchise tag from Leroy Hill, the Seahawks agreed to a new deal with their linebacker, which guarantees him $15.5 million.
NFL - The Patriots have acquired TE Alex Smith from the Buccaneers for an undisclosed 2010 draft choice.
NFL - Cincy PK Shayne Graham signed his one-year franchise tender.
SI - A few of the SI writers discuss where Edgerrin James might end up next.
NFP - Matt Bowen details mini-camps from the player's perspective.
NFP - Andrew Brandt chimes in on the annual "Will Brett play this year" talk.
NFL - Thomas George thinks Donovan McNabb finally has some real weapons around him. Well, the days of Stinkston and Trash are certainly distant memories.
CBS - Clark Judge thinks the Rams' draft was a vote of confidence for QB Marc Bulger.
FOX - Alex Marvez shares what it takes to become an NFL draft bust.
NFP - Matt Bowen thinks rookies are overpaid.
NFP - Wes Bunting examines the third-round choices that stood out to him.
NFP - Robert Boland shares some thoughts about the draft.
NFL - Bucky Brooks grades out the NFC West teams' drafts.
CBS - Pete Prisco goes back and grades the 2006 Draft, with high marks to the Broncos (of course).
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OMFG!!!!
LMAO!!! I frakkin LOVE McDaniels on the field!!! Coaching by playing DB!! Great find, nyc! And thanks for the tracks!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
What a McJerk!
OMG, the arrogance! Did you see Coach McHorribleWreckerofBroncos correcting receivers when they did something wrong! And giving them pointers! Arrogant McHoodieJerk is the WORST! We’re going to go 2-14!!!!! And then the way that at the end he told them good work — like he’s some kind of McGenius BELLICHEAT boss who gets to tell them what to do!!!! This 32-year old arrogant MCJERK will set back the Broncos 300 years!!!
Ah, good times. Not too bad for my first try, although I think I’ve got some work to do if I want to compete with the heavy hitters at DPO. Thanks as always, NYC.
lmao
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 7:24 AM MDT up reply actions
man, your sarcasm
is so spot on it creeps me out!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
He
wasn’t even listening to his receivers and taking in what they had to say about how to do it. He was just telling them to do it right.
Terrible.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
And everyone knows they need help on the D-Line and Front Seven
What is McBadCoachPimpleKid even running offensive drills for anyway! The Broncos had the #2 offense! We all need help on the D-Line. Coach McDestroyerOfBroncos isn’t even paying attention to the biggest need! Seattle’s going to have the #3 pick next year, thanks to Coach I’mMcArrogantandIgnorningtheD!!!!!
by Chibronx on May 1, 2009 7:28 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gold
+1
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on May 1, 2009 7:37 AM MDT up reply actions
The Broncos had the number 2 offense between the 20s, but in the red zone they were A number two offense.
Besides, I’m pretty sure that weekend minicamp was longer than the two minutes shown on the video.
Also, I don’t think that refusing to settle for inferior players who happened to fit a percieved need qualifies as ignoring the D. Shanny tried that in ‘07 and where did that get him? There weren’t any studs available, only projects who were overrated because of a down year for defensive linemen.
Hey Velveeta...
Just a heads up, since you’re new here (again, welcome!), but right here you’re preaching to the choir, haha. There is a TON of sarcasm above.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
hard to argue that
except that other teams saw talent enough to draft run stoppers… I hope our guys are the better talent judge. I’ve no reason to doubt Nolan, I hope he had some input.
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I Can't Believe
That he just tells the players what to do. I doesn’t sit them down in a semi-circle and hold hands while they try to reach a consensus.
Outrageous!
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Signing Kumbaya
and then having some S’Mores.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
That is precious, CB...
Don’t forget, the 2-14 record will mean McIdiot traded away the first-overall pick in the 2010 Draft. Everyone wants the first pick, right? Right? I mean, who wouldn’t love the chance to draft a guy and pay him $45 million in guarantees to maybe suck?
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions
And next year's draft is WAY better than this year's
With the #3 pick, Coach McDumba$$ could have drafted two nose tackles, a rush linebacker and three defensive ends! And he cut Andrew Pinnuck [sic, ha!]! He cut the fullback, the fullback AND the long-snapper! McArrongHoddie is building a combination of Detroit South, Oakland East and Haiti North!
See what happens when you encourage me? I don’t mean to wear out this schtick, guys, but it really is good fun. This is the end of it, I swear.
you guys are starting to creep me out!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
fixed it for you
I mean, who wouldn’t love the chance to draft a guy and pay him $45 million in guarantees to probably suck?
:)
by BroncosBassist on May 1, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice 1st effort mate...forgot ot mention "When is SHanny coming back...he would never do that!!!"
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
you are better off running your necks with the weak attempt at humor...
than addressing the issues!
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions
EH!!!!!
He’s a coach!!!! What is he supposed to do? Sit and watch??
yep, he was looking good out there!
If this is his do or die year (which it should be), his work like this gives me hope. He’s clearly more comfortable out there teaching than in front of the camera. This is a good sign.!
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
I always wondered why an “offensive” or “defensive” minded coaches don’t call the plays that they specialize in. Hearing that Josh will be calling the plays shows that he is best suited to implement the amoeba offense and adapting as needed and I applaud him. I believe in using the respective co-ordinators to research and solidify their team against the next upcoming opponent.
I’m glad to see that Josh also knows defense in order to make WR better in their routes. Watching him run with the players shows that you must lead by example if you want to command leadership. So wonderfully spoken by Gibson in “We were soldiers”, I will be the first to step off the helicopter and the last. Give me that leadership anyday at work.
As a contract for hire or “free agent” in the healthcare field, in my visit among numerous hospitals nationwide that cannot retain staff is not due to personnel, most generally try their best, but mid level management inability to adapt to unforseen problems or implement accountability. As a former prep cook at Pizza Hut and KFC and bag boy at a grocery stere, there are always lazy workers and hard workers. Cutting a healthcare worker is not as easy as cutting a player who doesn’t perform to a certain standard. It starts from the top, Director, of a dept in the hospital to set the standard and that applies to football as well in terms of Head Coaches. My search still continues to permanently work at a hospital where management and staff are performing at a high level of standard to care for patients.
How many times have you heard stories regarding healthcare mishaps? To err is to be human but as mentioned among the players, frequent mistakes of the same nature become a problem not only in football but in healthcare as well.
Personally, I have been satisfied with the new Broncos and can’t wait for preseason.
Mornin nyc, Mucho Thanks for Horse Tracks...
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
Busy Friday
Lots of goodies today. hanks for your work nyc.
And Good Morning.
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
Sick And Tired.
Teams trade future first round picks for currfent second rounders all the damn time! It’s a shame that the Colts trading a future first and a current third for the second round pick that became Tony Ugoh crippled their franchise…
"The mystic chords of fandom, stretching from every trade and signing to every active account and guest all over this broadband, will yet swell the chorus of union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature". ~ Abraham Lincoln-ish
"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish
I like
how it all depends on the Alphonso Smith trade as to wether this is a good idea or not. In contrast the Carolina trade is just kinda iffy.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Yes...
you mean the Carolina trade that netted the Panthers a top-notch right tackle? That one? Haha it’s amazing how many good trades Clayton makes sound poor or iffy…
Really, if you end up with an excellent player then you made a good trade – the choices you had originally may have never panned out! Nobody ever considers that!
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Not Just
Not just that trade but of course the trade Carolina made this year too.
Crazy
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Whoops
I’m so focused on the Broncos (and missed the first day of the draft) that I didn’t even know about that one. Thanks, KF
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions
NP
Considering Denver was the first team to ever do this EVER. It is amazing how Carolina managed to jump back in time to pull it off a year ago once they realized how to do it. A la Back to the Future.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
You know, I wonder what the reaction would have been
if they had traded up to take Maualuga or Brace. I bet it would have been considered a masterstroke. Instead, they traded up for a quck, fluid, bright, well-coached CB with tremendous ball skills (and I mean TREMENDOUS.) All anybody can say is that he’s 5-9 though. When he gets 6 or 7 INTs this year, playing the slot, what will Clayton say then?
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
No Doubt
There is not doubt about it. If we had packaged ALL our picks or both our 1st rounders and moved up to draft Raji, Sanchez, Rey or anyone in the 1st round they would have called it a master stroke.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
No....
Actually, if Denver had done that, all we would have heard about are the question marks with Raji, Sanchez or Rey and what a horrible gambel it was.
There was no way McDaniels and Xanders were going to avoid criticism for this draft. If they stayed pat, everyone they missed would have been the next coming of Peyton Manning. If they moved, it would have been sacraficing need to get someone they could have had anyway.
The “experts” had already made up their minds in February that McDaniels was a disaster and everything he does just confirms that for them.
"Now we have them where we want them"
-Kieth Bishop - On the Denver 2 yard line, Cleveland Ohio, 1987
They'd have called that stupid too
cuz it would be. Like trading a (probably #12ish )one for a two. Stupid.
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Although...
taking all your picks and dumping it into an unproven QB. Now that is savvy.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Darrell Green was 5'9"
And about ten pounds lighter than Alphonso. Green spent 20 years in the league and was All Pro most of those years.
Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance
Antione Winefield
Who is considered one of the most complete (run support & pass) in the league for a number of years.
D-Will R.I.P
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
Good player....wrong positional need
The more I see of Smith, the more I like, but they still need a front 7 in the worst way. Ayers is a good start though…The more I read on him, the more I like as well
have you looked at Chris Baker?
Curious what you think, y.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Really like him....but don't forget he was undrafted
I do have high hopes though….that is where I will swallow the most kool aid in hoping he turns into the next Casey Hampton
OK the air heads in the MSM keep harping on this
but its just not true!!!
They have addressed the front 7 in many many ways. The media would never let the facts get in the way of their story but at some point people have to start accepting reality. The FO did address the front 7, to the extent possible, givwen the players who were out there.
Scott was never available to us...
people gotta stop with the magical thinking and accept that the impact players just weren’t there this year. Would you have ahd them pay the $100 mill that Wash spent on Haynesworth?
I'm afraid Champ may be out next year...
Smith may be more of a need than we think
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions
By The Way...
Can someone compile a list of the sport writers that are writting off McDaniels in Denver? I know for a fact that Rick Reilly (who that guy ever got so popular is beyond me) and John Clayton are on there, but I’m sure there are other high-profile types that deserve mention. Maybe we can compile an e-mail list so we can message them a giant “how do you like me now?!” down the road…
"The mystic chords of fandom, stretching from every trade and signing to every active account and guest all over this broadband, will yet swell the chorus of union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature". ~ Abraham Lincoln-ish
"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish
by ejruiz on May 1, 2009 7:13 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Well you gotta
put Woody in there.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Adam Schein for one...
He had a completely asinine pre-draft article telling teams how not to screw up, and then killed them if they didn’t play it like he thought they should play it.
Also, check out Dan Parr at PFW here. Maybe let’s let the guy coach a few games?
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
love the idea
I don’t think we need to email them. Just post their names on a publicly viewable list, with links to their criticisms, so they can’t hide from what they said.
; )
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
That's a great idea
Start holding some of the “experts” accountable and maybe they’ll start doing a better job.
Especially if everyone can see their f-ups.
Until we get that letter; “You must cease and desist your slanderous lies of my client…”
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
You forgot the best part
"You must cease and desist your slanderous lies of my client’s slanderous lies…"
; )
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha
Yeah. I can’t wait till I get my law degree.
I’ll just write back; "We respectfully request that your client attempt to do his job and perform a little research regarding the topic he is an “expert” on before trying to convince those that know better than him he’s right. It may work with the sheeple, but the educated have had it"
“Thank you and Good day”
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
by Randall15 on May 1, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love this conversation the Prisco article generated
Non-Bronco fan calling Bronco fan out
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on May 1, 2009 7:20 AM MDT reply actions
CBS Sports
Ya this is the reason I stopped going to Denvers Blog on CBS, complete idiots. I can’t stand Masteragain.
Awesome.
I’ve been arguing with Walt over at Walterfootball.com and he just won’t stop the Bronco bashing. He has already put the Broncos into the same category as the Lions, Raiders, and Chiefs…and we have yet to play a game under our new coach and scheme. It’s sad, cause I respect him…he’s just buying into all the media hype.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Balance?
I remain astounded as to the polarity that remains in the Bronco Nation, thinking that the departure of Jay Cutler would be forgotten and most people would jump on the new coach bandwagon. MHR clearly has, with both feet.
My feet are clearly straddled across the blue line, liking some of the new coach’s moves and stress on character, yet there is a very strong streak of egotism in his personality that just rubs me the wrong way.
However, I am accepting reality and just watching this all play out. I like the new players and hope for the best. My comment on the all character draft is that I remember similar drafts in prior years and fans then were saying they didn’t want boy scouts, they wanted football players. It’s just interesting how things come full circle.
I am hoping for the best for the Broncos in the coming year, I am just not yet capable of wrapping the current Bronco leadership with glowing adjectives. Maybe that will change. So put me in the camp of neither the boosters, nor the grumps, but maybe the slightly detached. I must say that as a Bronco fan, I have never felt that way before.
by Baltimore Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:07 AM MDT reply actions
Nothing wrong with that...
BB, keep in mind that this is a site for and by Broncos fans. We’re not a neutral bunch of guys here, we’re huge Broncos fans. Personally, I have no problem with folks being critical. What I have a problem with is overreaction and presumption. Certain folks are flipping out about the draft, but the draft is only a fraction of the offseason. There’s also UFAs to consider (not count on, but consider), and veteran cuts who will surely be signed after May 1 and June 1. It happens every year, and it bothers me when people decide what the Broncos needed to get out of the draft. I say they needed talent. Folks are so focused on the draft, that they assume McDaniels and Xanders are going into the season with the roster constructed exactly as it is today. That is ridiculous!
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
WOOOO! Rulon!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Anyone named Rulon
is my guy. Especially a guy who has the character that this guy has. He has to prove himself like anyone, but I’m rooting for him in a big big way.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/4/28/857719/de-rulon-davis
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Hard not to like the guy
Anyone who can say “yeah, football practice is hard…but NOTHING compared to boot camp” is a player I want on my team.
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
No Problem Mate
Look, the reality is that I think this webpage makes a few underlining assumptions that are missing elsewhere.
1st we assume that McD isn’t the dumbest man in the world and has a reason for what he does. This leads us to look for that reason.
2nd we don’t assume Bowlen is the worst owner in the league and also had reasons. This leads us to trust in our 1st assumption.
3rd we don’t assume that Denver was a Championship team with a less than stellar front 7. This leads us to look at the rest of the team as needing improvement.
4th we don’t assume that you should rename the NFL, NQL National QB League. This leads us to look at positive team improvement as being good over losing a single player.
There are a few others but these seem to be the big ones. The analysis we do gives us an optimistic outlook but I think it only seems so polar because everyone else is so crazy negative. If you ask around people are still mixed about what our record will be.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
by Kfustud on May 1, 2009 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Great points, KF
A lot of folks here are unwilling to give McDaniels and Xanders the benefit of the doubt. Granted, some go too far in the other direction, assuming every decision they make will work out well. Either way, it’s silly to judge these men before a single game has been played.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions
i wasn't done
It’s ok to form opinions, so long as they remain fluid…subject to input and change.
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Plus
Being positive is way more fun.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
by Kfustud on May 1, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
true
but i hate feeling stupid, so i try to be real
Hopefully ‘real’ & ‘positive’ meet in the same sentence occasionally this year.
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
very well said
I forgot your props there for a minute!
One more sip of KoolAid and one less snide remark from the KoolAid drunks and I’ll be where you are.
We can only hope to glow more as the season begins, right?
Go Broncos and all that!
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm trying for balance
But the koolaid drunks get to me sometimes!
Especially the one’s who run this site and don’t want to offend the organization!
I like more of McD’s moves than dislike…
But I’m still pissed about the Cutler thing and the wasting the #1 thing!
Loving the things I’ve seen on the practice field
& Moreno/Ayers
I Don’t think Baltimore meant he was neutral towards the Broncos (NYC!) he’s neutral towards the new staff… As any rational fan should be
As far as the folks calling for Mcd’s head? I’m sure we all hope we’re wrong completely!
Thought that might strike a chord...
I can understand why when I challenge your motivation, that you say it hurts my credibility…. pretty transparent actually.
And there ends my willingness to engage with trolls
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
I'm not going to engage with you either...
I think you’re a classic example of a troll, just looking to get a rise out of people, and spark pointless back-and-forth. That adds zero value to this community, so you can say what you want, but I am not going to play. If it’s out of line, I’ll just flag you, and leave it for Guru to deal with.
This is not the Denver Post message board, and we’re nothing like any message board in fact. My objective here isn’t to outwit or out-argue anybody, it’s to share in the Broncos fan experience with the rest of the community. As Styg noted the other day, the ability to get along in a friendly community, while sometimes agreeing to disagree in a respectful and civil way, seems to be tied to self-esteem. You’ll get a lot further here by getting along, even when you disagree, than you will by trying to bait people into pointless, thread-jacking, back-and-forth arguing.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
You won't engage because we disagree?
But the name calling really helps us all get along eh?
Who’s trying to get a rise out of who?
Yeah let’s not go there Ted.
I don’t like the bickering either but i will have my opinion and I do love my team!
We have that in common!
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions
This is not the Denver Post message board, and we’re nothing like any message board in fact. My objective here isn’t to outwit or out-argue anybody, it’s to share in the Broncos fan experience with the rest of the community.
I liked this bit, and felt it deserved added emphasis. Thanks, TB.
(In the interest of giving energy to what you want more of, and ignoring that which you don’t.)
Well---DO-OVER, Mornin nyc, Thanks for Horse Tracks...
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
ROFLMAO
Refuse to engage. Do NOT give in to temptation! I have been fighting the urge since beginning to read this post-fest. Wasn’t Ted saying something about Devil’s advocacy just a few days ago?
Thanks for the fresh start.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
James Taylor
I think all of us Bronco fans should go to a James Taylor concert and mellow out. Or, to a Carly Simon concert, she is cuter.
I have never seen such a divisive environment around the Broncos before and we can’t seem to get over it. That’s sad. Too much name-calling on both sides.
… and, I am no less a Bronco fan than I was before, I am just sitting back, letting the new crowd do their thing, and I hope I warm up to them. The Broncos, well, if you saw my basement, my football card collection, my bookshelves, I think you know that you never stop being the fan of a team. I had parties for lots of lost SuperBowls back here in the East when everyone made fun of them. My blood is Bronco orange.
Still, this episode hasn’t been fun.
by Baltimore Bronco on May 1, 2009 9:22 AM MDT reply actions
it will be fine
once the pre-season starts up and we can actually see our team take the field. everybody is too busy playing “fantasy GM” at this point, being pissed off because “their” picks weren’t chosen in the draft
LOL
McD walked in…. to the party
Like he was walkin onto a yacht.
His hood strategically clipped below both sleeves,
and then some Rookies sure did get taught… (OK lame rhyme)
And all the fans thought that they could be smarter, they could be smarter ’cause,
he’s so vain……. He prob’ly thinks this song is about him he’s so vain!!!!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on May 1, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is TOO Good
From the Denver Dining Examiner an interesting take on Josh McDaniels but maybe just current Bronco Country in general.
Amazing you have to go to a restaurant guide to find decent sports thoughts.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
by Kfustud on May 1, 2009 11:19 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow, good find
His analogy is interesting
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on May 1, 2009 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for that, KF
Excellent column!
by Douglas A. Lee on May 1, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting.
One of the best sports articles I’ve read in a long, long time. And its from a food critic.
It holds water for every fan of every team in every sport. You can think you know better, but they’ve been doing it for awhile. If you expect your opinion to be respected you need to show the same respect to theirs.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
A pattern I have noticed
over and over again…is that the most vitriolic comments come form the least informed fans/“experts”
by SlowWhiteGuy on May 1, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am less informed than anyone, but
I try to have fun at no one’s expense. Don’t cast all of us who are “free from information” aside… we’re not all vitriolic.
In seriousness, your point is true.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Great starting thought
"With so much coaching talent in the city, people who must have visited all the combines, scouted all the players personally, and actually been important cogs in successful NFL franchises themselves, what was Bowlen thinking when he passed all of them up for Josh McDaniels?"
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 1, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Loved that one
It just amazes me what with how many dead-lock NFL experts there are in this town (you know, the same ones that have never held a job, ever, with any football organization anywhere) that the fool Bowlen would choose this dumb kid that clearly doesn’t know jack squat. Who CARES that he’s pretty much been immersed in coaching his whole life- he traded cutler and cut Selvin Young!
LOL
Funny how many fans have delusions of adequacy, isn’t it?
by AllBroncsallday on May 1, 2009 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
That just made me hungry...
FOR TOUCHDOWNS! KA-CHOW!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
What an awesome guy
That Asomugha article was really great. He’s a stand up guy, and I love that he does all those things for those kids. I can’t believe he tutors every week… it seems like he really cares, which is nice to see from superstar athletes (even if they play for the Raiders)
Ya
He is one of very few Raiders I would want on my team. Can’t afford him but would want him.
He did a great interview too where he talked about how great Al Davis is at running a team and that he knows what it takes in the NFL and then when they asked him if he would sign another contract extension he said, “Well… if we are winning.”
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Every now and then they seem to get
a guy like him, or Jerry Rice, or Tim Brown, that you have to sort of root for. Why they don’t shop for all their other ingredients from the same grocer is beyond rational explanation.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 1, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Turico and VanPelt interview with McDaniels
This probably was posted on this site earlier but this was a good interview in case it hasn’t;
Awesome....thanks mate!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
I am listening to 104.3 the Fan right now
and these guys are such morons. These guys have no idea what they are talking about. It is so funny.
by gnarlybroncodude on May 1, 2009 3:50 PM MDT reply actions
+1
Ya I had it on by accident as I drove home and they were calling some guy an idiot. I think those guys are loosing it.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Tis better no to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
Kind of like...
…a couple guys up above on this thread
Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance
Seriously Though
I hear ya.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Tis better no to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
i wish i could hear them over the hosts up here in Shitbird land!
The Seahawks excelled just as soon as they left our division and they really love it when I inform them of this…
Actually we did have some good season splits with them back in the day.
by Whidbey Bronco on May 1, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions
No. 27 is back in circulation in Denver!
Knowshon will wear DW’s #….
I like it. I hope he does it proud. What better way to respect his memory than to assign his number to our best young talent! Good Luck Knowshon.
RIP & God Bless DW
Nice touch by the Broncos, asking his family first.
Classy
Thanks for the link WB...awesome mate!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
feel the love
Actually it doesn’t take much to bring true fans together. Jeepers I’d misplaced the Atwater connection I’m embarrassed to say!
Moreno seems like the right cat for such an honor…
i like to draft broncos but i never bet with my heart....
yes i do
but that’s my rule…
Except for the committee rb look of our present line-up, looks like a Bronco will rush for some serious yards this season.
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