Mile High Report: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: The Nova Blog for Villanova Fans!

Tales from the SunnySide: Chris Simms

The Tale of Chris Simms

When the Denver Broncos bargained with Chris Simms this offseason, they believed they were taking on a talented backup quarterback to cover for Jay Cutler if he went down to injury. Coach Josh McDaniels felt that Simms had the pedigree and the potential to be a solid backup, and the higher-than-normal contract cost backed that up. It didn't take long for Simms to receive a chance to show that he is more than a backup - he's currently competing against Kyle Orton for the starting position. In order for us to start understanding the value of this, we have to go back to where it all started.

You certainly could argue that Chris Simms has the best NFL pedigree, being the son of famous NFL QB Phil Simms. He was born in Ridgewood, New Jersey on August 29, 1980 and attended high school in nearby Franklin Lakes, NJ. A standout athlete, he played basketball as well as football. He was a two-time All-State football player and the 1998 USA Today Offensive Player of the Year. He initially committed to the University of Tennessee and then de-committed, choosing instead to attend the University of Texas, where he would major in history.

Arriving at Texas, Simms found that he was in a long conflict for the starting job with Major Applewhite. Each of them did well at various times and weakened at others. Their battle went back and forth for two full years. Over the course of Simms' tenure at the University of Texas, he set several records; their current status follows...

Star-divide

University of Texas Official Records

  • 3rd Pass Efficiency (Career) - 138.4.
  • 4th Best Winning Percentage (Career) - 26-6, 0.812 (1999-2002)
  • 3rd most touchdowns (Career) - 58 (1999-2002)
  • 3rd Most touchdowns (Single Season) - 26 (Behind Colt McCoy places 1+2, tied with Vince Young for 3rd)
  • 2nd Most touchdowns (Single Game) - 5 (at Oklahoma State, 2001, behind Colt McCoy)
  • 1st Most passing yards in a game (vs Nebraska) - 419
  • 2nd in Single Season Passing Yards in a single season - 3303 (behind Major Applewhite)
  • 5th and 6th in most passes completed without an interception: 5th. 88 (2000), 6th 87 (2001)
Major Applewhite outdid him for two of those records. Applewhite was too small to play QB in the National Football League, but he was a tough competitor at the college level. One of Applewhite's strengths was much better at not turning over the ball, something that Simms tended to do. In fact, in 2001 Simms threw 3 interceptions in the Big 12 title game against the #7 Cornhuskers. Applewhite came in and rallied the team, although they would fall just short of victory. However, that game earned Applewhite the chance to start the 2001 Holiday Bowl against Washington, in which Texas pulled out a 47-43 comeback victory.

Simms would eventually take the helm, and in 2003 Simms started all 16 games. He led his team in five preseason games with 4 TDs. He also completed 27-of-42 pass attempts for 239 yards with a passer rating of 101.2 

During his last two seasons, Simms established himself as one of the best QBs in Longhorns history. Simms played in 43 games during his time at Texas, starting 32 of them.  He would leave having completed 535-of-911 pass attempts (58.7%) for 7,097 yards, 58 touchdowns and 31 interceptions. He was also the Texas record holder for career completion percentage (58.7%) and passer rating (138.36)

To understand how he was seen in the community, I'll offer this;:during Simms' junior year, Jimmy Burch, of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram noted,

COPYRIGHT 2002 Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Byline: Jimmy Burch

AUSTIN, Texas - Three years after arriving on campus as the most-celebrated signee of coach Mack Brown's first banner recruiting class, Texas quarterback Chris Simms remains college football's version of the ink-blot test.

Some look at him and see a strong-armed, Heisman Trophy contender capable of leading the Longhorns to a national championship. Others see an overhyped, mistake-prone son of a Super Bowl hero who does not even project as a first-round pick in the 2003 NFL Draft.

Simms has created this dichotomy of opinions despite a 15-4 career record as Texas' starter because he has accumulated sterling statistics against the have-nots of the college football world while struggling against the top teams on the Longhorns' schedule.

Simms is unbeaten in 13 starts against unranked opponents but is 2-4 against Top 25 teams during his college career, with twice as many interceptions (12) as touchdown passes (six) in those high-stakes matchups. In his past three starts against top 10 foes, Simms has offset 12 turnovers (11 interceptions, one fumble) with one touchdown pass in losses to Oregon, Oklahoma and Colorado.

That inconsistency would haunt him throughout his career. As his pre-draft scouting reports would indicate, Chris Simms has always been a player of contradictions. His decision making was suspect and yet his courage was inarguable. He would destroy lesser opponents and crumble before stronger ones. Pro Football Weekly did perhaps the best job of summing up his performance to that date: 

Chris Simms
SELECTED BY NEW YORK , ROUND 4, PICK 1, OVERALL PICK 97
QB | (6-4, 220, 4.82) | Texas
By Pro Football Weekly

Notes: High school All-American and USA Today Offensive Player of the Year. Also played basketball. Son of former Giants QB Phil Simms but, unlike his father, throws left-handed. Originally signed with Tennessee to replace Peyton Manning but shifted gears and went to Texas. Played as a freshman and started once. Started five games and the Holiday Bowl in 2000 and the first 12 games in '01. Would have entered the '02 draft had he not been benched in the finale of his junior season. Completed 19-of-26 passes for 223 yards with two touchdowns and an interception in '99. Completed 67-117-1,064-8-7 in 2000; and 214-362-2,603-22-11 in '01. Started all 13 games in '02 and completed 235-396-3,207-26-12 and was a semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award for the second consecutive year. Also named third-team All-Big 12 by the coaches.

Positives: Good size, work ethic and character. Has a good setup, touch and accuracy on short-to-medium throws. Smart with pocket awareness. Good on play-action fakes and the bootleg. Can make some throws on the run and find the No. 2 receiver. Has short accuracy and a better-than-good arm. Hard-working. Has been overhyped throughout his career and faced unrealistic expectations, yet has handled it very maturely. Has average mobility and is a student of the game.

Negatives: Streaky, erratic and has tunnel vision. Locks on to one receiver, lacks judgment and presses in big games, when he forces balls. Does not have a great arm and measures a lot of throws. Lacks speed and has average athletic ability. Has an inconsistent delivery point. Has little scrambling ability or elusiveness. Does not anticipate receivers well on crossing routes. Has had an up-and-down career. Throws late and behind receivers too often, but because he played with great wideouts, his completion percentage is misleading. Is more like former USC and Browns QB Paul McDonald than his father. Has an inconsistent delivery ranging from three-quarters to sidearm. Lacks great intuitiveness.  Gets in trouble when he tries to force the ball into cracks. Overrates his arm and accuracy. Lacks great timing. Can improve his decision-making.

Summary: Simms has many NFL tools, but his decision-making and performance under pressure have to improve for him to realize his potential. Does not have his father's talent, but has a stronger arm and could be a better pro quarterback than he was at Texas.

Simms was drafted with the last pick of the 3rd round (94th) in 2004 by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They were looking for a successor for Brad Johnson, and took on Simms as a third QB.  He remained so for the start of 2004. In August of 2004, just before the start of his 1st NFL season, Simms married Danielle Marie Puleo, whom he first met in high school, in August of 2004. In 2006, Danielle would give birth to a baby girl Charlotte Elizabeth. 

He advanced to second string in 2004 after Brian Griese had a terrible preseason. Brad Johnson, the former second string, also faltered in preseason and started the season badly. He was pulled, and Simms would go in against the Seahawks on September 19th. He went 21 for 32, 175 yards and an interception, but with no TDs. It was good enough to land him the starting job nearly a month later against the Saints on October 10th. Simms would start 5 for 8 and 75 yards before he bruised his shoulder and would go out for three weeks. Griese won all three games, and Simms lost the starting job. Griese kept it for all of '04 except the final game against Arizona. Simms started that game and threw for 224 yards, 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions. Simms played in 5 games over this year, throwing 42 completions on 73 attempts and compiling a 61.4 QB rating.

He was still the 2nd-string QB behind Griese at the start of 2005. with Luke McCown at 3rd string. Griese was injured when a defender rolled onto his leg on October 30th against Miami. He only threw 6 of 10 for 69 yards and not TDs, but compiled an 80.8 QB rating.

The following week against San Francisco, Simms started and threw 21-34 for 264 yards and 1 TD, but with 2 INT, under-throwing his receivers repeatedly. The lack of production wasn't entirely Chris' fault. I found this in the history section of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' website, describing that game:  

"Simms was also sacked five times and may have contributed to the protection problems by holding the ball for an excessive period on some plays. Twice Simms directed impressive drives into or near the 49ers' red zone, only to have critical sacks kill the touchdown opportunities and make for long field goal attempts. Matt Bryant converted on a career-long 47-yard kick just before halftime but missed from 52 yards early in the fourth quarter. Later, with the Bucs trailing by five with two minutes to play, Simms was sacked by DT Bryant Young and fumbled the ball away on the first play of the Bucs' last real hope."

His numbers (25-42, 259, 1TD, 2INT) were almost identical the next week against Carolina. He played better for the rest of the season, however, and ended 2005 with a passer rating of 81.4, 191 of 313 for 2035 yards and 61%, with 10 TDs and 7 INT. He had 6 wins and 5 losses. Stumbling past the regular season with the 25th-ranked offense in the league, the Bucs made the playoffs but lost in the first game against Washington, 17-10.

It was enough to grant Simms the starting job the following year (2006). However, he was flat-out dreadful in the first two games. In the third quarter Carolina was leading 17-0 but Simms pushed his Bucs back to a 21-20 deficit. Even though a questionable hit ruptured his spleen in the 2nd quarter, in a rare display of bravery, Simms finished the game, even leading a final 4th quarter field goal drive that took the lead before his Bucs succumbed to Carolina 26-24on a Carolina FG with 7 seconds left on September 24th. He had emergency surgery immediately after. Simms states that he lost 5 pints of blood and had his famous spleen removed. He even used this for good, and we know that he has led successful blood drives ever since.

At this point, his career found itself at a crossroads. Stories differ depending on whose side you are on. We do know that Simms signed a two-year extension on December 12th of 2006 but went to training camp in 2007 as the 2nd-string QB behind Jeff Garcia. Due to complications from his recovery (and, possibly, the play of Garcia) he didn't start a game that year and on October 9th, the Bucs placed him on IR for the remainder of the season.

As events around the 2008 draft unfolded, the Tampa Bay team and Simms developed differing stories as to what happened. Simms claims that they had repeated offers for him around the time of the draft. TB denies it. Simms' relationship with head coach Jon Gruden worsened significantly during this period, and Simms claims that the way Gruden treated Simms during his recovery from the spleen injury was at fault. He said, "The relationship between me and coach Gruden, it's broken," adding, "And I don't see any way it's going to get better." Simms also said that he will never forgive Gruden; He also added that he still respects the Buccaneers as an organization. Brian Griese had this to say:

"I think Jon's a great coach, I think he is. But this is a tough business. I've been on the other side. I understand exactly where Chris is coming from. Chris is going to be a heck of a player once he gets his opportunity."

What we know is that TB showed no signs of wanting to play him, and they released him on August 30th of 2008. He would sign with Tennessee on Sept 9th, after the strange issues around Vince Young's emotional state became public. He backed up Kerry Collins until October 3rd when he was released to make room for a punter, Josh Miller. He was re-signed on Oct 6th and finished the season with the Titans. Denver picked him up in early March of 2009.

The real question at this point is this; over the past three years, has Chris Simms recovered fully from his injuries? The doctors, both his and the Broncos, say yes. Is he mentally and physically comfortable with the violent nature of the game and sure that he can handle it? He says an emphatic yes. With that behind him, has he matured? Has he learned both consistency in his mechanics and maturity in his decision making? We can assume by his contract - in the $3-million range - that Josh McDaniels thinks that either he has, or he will. He's in a very real competition for the starting QB slot with former Chicago QB Kyle Orton, who most peg as the front-runner.

The most interesting thing about Chris Simms is what we can't yet know - has he learned while carrying a clipboard? Can he overcome his weaker tendencies - poor decisions and inconsistent throws - to become the quarterback that many have believed that he can be? No one, except perhaps Josh McDaniels and Simms himself, can know. The fans haven't seen him throw in years. When he is throwing in training camp and preseason, could we see that he has overcome his early mistakes?

Something that a lot of fans don't know is that in 2005 Chris Simms had better numbers in throwing the deep pass (21+ yards from the LOS) than Jay Cutler did in 2008. Surprised? I was. He's a lot more accurate with the vertical game than Cutler was, although we should keep in mind that the sample size on Simms was much smaller and may not carry over to a full season in a vertical game, if that's required. Throwing to the right, Simms also has a much better passer rating. He throws better over the middle - QB rating of 100.3 compared to 90.3 for Cutler. The fact is that each of the QBs involved this offseason - Cutler, Orton and Simms - have strengths that the other do not have and weaknesses that the others do not share. To think otherwise is simplistic, but it is neither complete nor realistic. Each brings challenges and opportunities, and to try to ignore that is to buy into the MSM willingness to think and speak only in simplicities. Reality is never that simple.

The other reality is that despite a certain level of understandable rust, Simms could well have improved since his 2005 season. It's not realistic to think that he hasn't worked, learned and developed over that time, but we cannot know how far. That story will be told in training camp and preseason.

There's a second story waiting to be told; a lot of folks suspect that Josh McDaniels didn't draft Tom Brandstater to leave him a backup forever. Can Simms keep the #2 slot, even if he loses the starting position to Kyle Orton? Ironically, before the Cutler trade, many were calling for Chicago general manager Jerry Angelo to bring Simms on to back up Kyle Orton. The outcome of this competition is the Tale that will be told in training camp and beyond. We will just have to wait and see.

Bring on Training Camp!

If you have a candidate for additional Tales, please contact Doc at mhrtales@gmail.com

16 recs  |  Comment 55 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I'll be surpirsed if Simms starts.

But I think he is a solid #2 that can keep us in the thick of things if there is an injury to the starter during a game. The consistency is what worries me. Perhaps McDaniels will work some of his QB training magic on Simms, but I don’t imagine a HC has that kind of time either.

In the end, I feel good about SImms as a #2.

Another great article Bear, and rec’d!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on May 21, 2009 7:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I also think that he is going to be a solid backup.

I wonder if the reason they were willing to pay him so much is that they see him as an investment so to speak. Maybe McD thinks that he can develop him and trade him after a year or two for a decent pick? Maybe he is taking a low risk gamble in hopes that a Matt Cassel-like scenario plays out in the future?

by Orange Crush II on May 21, 2009 7:22 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

3 mill a year

is a lot for a low risk gamble. Cassell was drafted in the 7th Round so he most likely didn’t make 1 million in his 4 years. Of course I think he gets 14 this year so his family should eek out a decent living.

Having said that, i really like this line of thinking and if Denver can get a 2/3 rounder for him I’ll dance a jig. Maybe call him Cassell Duece

Bear, great article with alot of research you inspire us. Love the write ups on the Broncos and the indepth unbaised story telling.

sbhchawk
Here to drink the KoolAid poured by KO

by sbhchawk on May 21, 2009 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

another high contract for a non starter

maybe along side our long snapper we could hire a million dollar waterboy

I like Simms getting a chance… he might be really good in the right scenario but why pay so much?

Rookie Coach/wanna be GM…

by Whidbey Bronco on May 21, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Guess

Based upon Cutler showing disappointment starting with the departure of Shanahan, there was probably a great need to bring in some potential quality. We’ve had Tennessee fans say they wanted the Titans to resign Simms, and we’ve heard reports that the Bears were thinking it as well. If there were several teams interested, some with more (at the time) immediate starting potential, it would take a bit more to bring Simms in under Cutler. The pressure was on to protect against the unknown…and worst case scenario, the competition between Simms and Orton should push both to improve quicker.

Besides, even if Cutler were still on the team…would you rather know Simms is there for 3 million per, or that Ramsey was waiting in the wings? :)

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on May 21, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+7

and there is no higher number in Bronco land

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 21, 2009 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I'm ok with Simms

I think we could have gotten him cheaper. I’m still irked by the way things went from the firing of Shanny on. …REALLY looking forward to seeing the good things McD has done, come to fruition! I’m hoping they begin to out weigh his mistakes. (or at least my opinion of them)

by Whidbey Bronco on May 21, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too Whidbey

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 21, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're all there, man

Maybe we could have gotten Simms cheaper…but maybe not. We don’t get to know the full behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on in the NFL, which puts our opinions at a disadvantage.

As far as Shanahan goes, his place in Broncos history is secure. We all assumed there would be adjustments, but nobody really thought it would mean the departure of Cutler, and it isn’t something I was really excited about. But I think we’ve all had times in our lives where we’ve grown accustomed to a particular setting, only to have a new direction in our lives open up. It’s easy to get into a comfortable rut; much harder to go through upheaval of a change, even if the change is necessary.

Okay, a bit introspective there. Training camp will be, quite possibly, the most scrutinized camp in Broncos history. I can’t wait. :)

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on May 21, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really... come on

Is $3mil/year really that much for a starter-capable NFL QB (even if its a below average starter)? Good lord, from what many of you say you would think we broke the bank for the guy.

Unless he’s improved/regressed he’s a low-end NFL starter, or high end backup. Thats a valuable commodity to have.

$3mil/year is right on for that… I think if you look around, that would be very comparable to what Leftwhich, Garcia, etc. make.

Does anyone know what Ramsey was making?

by cjfarls on May 22, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do, cj

He was making us crazy…;-)

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 22, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Job, Doc

I’ve only checked in on Simms intermittently over the years. I never really had a full picture of the guy. OK, mostly, I was amused by the Texas fans hating on him and preferring (of course) the crew-cut kid named Major, who was beloved precisely because of — and not in spite of — his more modest skills.

Great job on the synthesis. I don’t want to turn this all back to Jay-C, but my my, if Chris Simms does better on the deep ball and has never been a long-term starter, a person could argue that perhaps the deep ball isn’t everything. Nah.

by Chibronx on May 21, 2009 8:23 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Best summary on Simms I've read yet.

Thanks Bear. I was hoping you would do this piece before too long. I have a much better sense of Chris than I did previously. I suspect he is our #2 heading into the season, but I wish him the best of luck!

by NedBronco on May 21, 2009 8:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd Read Doc

Great insight and detail, this really helped me understand more about Simms. Can’t wait to see him complete…….

But Doc, Texas plays in the Big 12 not the Big Ten……..College Football fans might take exception :o)

by bchiper on May 21, 2009 9:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch!

Fixed it

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they played Colorado, not Nebraska

I should know I was at the game, UT would have advanced to it’s first National title game in 30 years if they could just beat a Buff team they had steamrolled at home earlier in the year, but Christina’s 3 first half interceptions ended that dream. I have never been more deflated after a game than that night. Good write up though Bear, it is almost kinda embarrassing how people in Austin have such a disdain for this guy, (he actually received death threats after that game) the conspiracy theory was that Mack Brown promised him the starting job if he would switch his commitment over to the Horns and that was why he was given the starting job over Applewhite who was the Big 12 offensive player of the year his junior year but lost his job to Simms his senior year?

by TX HOCKEY! on May 21, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and then I forgot to add this gem...

Chris has Kyle Shanahan’s name tattooed on his ankle and vice versa (No, I’m not kidding) Kyle was a receiver at UT and they were/are good friends. How good? Might want to ask him sometime if you get the chance. I’m just sayin…

by TX HOCKEY! on May 21, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know -

Thanks for the point on the Colorado game – I’ll have to check why the author of my source article misstated that. As far as the tattoo issue, I knew about it and decided to leave it out. If true, it will titillate folks and if not true, it’s just too strange.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

love the depth and the research

Great job Doc

"when they find the center of the universe, i know quite a few people that are going to be upset it isn't them" dmitchell624

by dmitchell624 on May 21, 2009 9:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Worst Case Scenario - Simms #2

Great insight in to Simms. If he loses the Starting QB job to Orton – we will have a great back up QB.

I am still stunned to still read the MSM not understanding why McD paid so much money for a “back-up” QB. I guess they do not remember the Brady scenario. This is the NFL!! The league can put in all the new rules it wants to try and protect the QBs, but they are still getting hurt in amazing numbers. The Broncos need a quality # 2 QB.

One of my few adverse opinions of Coach Shanahan was that he was willing to try and put a “serviceable” QB at back up and hope that the starter would not get hurt. In 2008 this was Patrick Ramsey – who are you kidding!! As an example, in the NE game (how ironic) Jay Cutler injured his hand in the first series of the game, and tried to tough it out. Patrick Ramsey came in a did his best, but he was not NFL QB material. Broncos got whupped on.

And later in the year we learned that Ramsey was hiding an injury to his throwing shoulder…UGH!!

The Bottom Line is that McD knows the value of having an NFL caliber QB as the second QB..if that is Simms.. Fantastic!!

I can live with paying “too much” money for a 2nd QB, who really could be a starter in the NFL. Plus, like other new Broncos that you have so adeptly profiled, I like Simm’s courage and toughness.

Thanks Bear!!

To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.

by Broncobh on May 21, 2009 10:11 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Kind of unfair here...

As someone who lives in Wash DC and watches many ’Skins games, Ramsey was a first round pick who actually showed some promise before Spurrier got him killed with his college-speed offense.

Ramsey is/was in many ways the same as Simms… a potentially starter capable NFL backup.

My one complaint about Ramsey is that he seemed a touch unsuited for Shanny’s scheme. Ramsey really is a big, strong pocket passer who unfortunately can lock-on to individual receivers and make questionable decisions. While he has okay mobility, I never really saw him excel in the bootlegs, roll-outs, etc. that Shanny’s offenses used so much of. He is also even less suited to McD’s scheme which emphasizes short-field accuracy and decision making (and why he was likely canned in favor of Simms).

I actually think Ramsey would be a decent backup in NY-Giants, Tennesse… maybe Pitt (if the O-line didn’t kill him first)… places where he could stand tall in the pocket and survey the field, then use his arm and mid/long accuracy to stretch the D vertically.

by cjfarls on May 22, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are Right - thanks for the Ramsey insight

Sometimes I sound like I write on the DP blog. I still am curious why Ramsey’s injury last year was not discussed more. Anyways, I am not sure if he is a fit for Tenn, but as always time will tell.

To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.

by Broncobh on May 22, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

One small problem

“In fact, in 2001 Simms threw 3 interceptions in the Big Ten title game against the #7 Cornhuskers”

Big 12 and Colorado Buffaloes!

As a Buff, I’m thankful that Chris Simms was able to jumpstart our offense after we had started so poorly in that game. He was so bad, he probably should have been the Buffs MVP for the game.

As a Bronco fan, I hope to never see him on the field.

by Gorbal on May 21, 2009 10:12 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

As a Buff fan, I have trouble with the idea of Simms. He really was the best player for the Buffs that game- I was sorry to see him get taken out.

I’m open to changing my mind, however. As a Bronco fan, I don’t think I’ll ever like his dad though! ;)

Great info Bear, thanks!

by AllBroncsallday on May 21, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another fineTale

Thanks Bear

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 21, 2009 10:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Simms is a gi-normous question mark

His performances are far enough in the past to make stat interpretation suspect — he could be better, he could be worse. I certainly think he’s worth a shot, but I’m surprised at his $3m/year contract under those circumstances (Orton is only making $1m/year, btw). McX have proven to be shrewd operators so far, so they continue to have the benefit of my doubt. Not that it was planned, but will be odd if the backup QB is getting paid three times more than the starter.

rec’d article, of course!

by CoastalBronco on May 21, 2009 10:36 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The kids had a rough road to go down,

especially trying to fill the shoes left behind by his dad. The spleen injury definately shows how tough he is, where some would have given up to do something less physical he has that determined spirit to prove something. I don’t believe the qb job will be handed over to Klye and there will be competition for that spot. Whoever does the better job in the preseason may prevail. Great job bear. 13-3 Baby!!!

by bfree2bronc on May 21, 2009 10:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the read broncobear

He is a bit of a question mark at this point because of his past play and the fact that he hasn’t played in awhile. However hopefully McD will be able to polish him up. Maybe the competition between him and Orton will bring something out the best in both of them.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

Lakers lead series 1-0

by weazel on May 21, 2009 10:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great work Doc!

The Windy City Gridiron just pales in comparison to the MHR.
The thing I like about Simms and Orton is it hasn’t been an easy road for both. They have both had to work and earn every inch of success along the way in the NFL.This builds character and confidence. May the best man win and lead the Broncos into the playoffs!

by rocko1 on May 21, 2009 11:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone notice Simms sweater?

color of the throwbacks! Great read Doc, Simms has always seemed like a back up to me much the same way Leftwich has. This is not a bad thing in my opinion, while everyone strives to be the starting QB, few people succeed. A back up QB who can come in and win (like Bubby) is a more rare breed than a starting QB. It takes a lot more because you are not the guy who gets all the glory, and yet your position is almost as crucial.

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 21, 2009 11:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Kubiak JT

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 21, 2009 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kubes too

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 21, 2009 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If McDaniels can correct his inconsistency

Then 3 mil per year for 2 years in very reasonable. I think that last year put into perspective for McDaniels the reality that you’re only as good as your depth.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 12:19 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

it will certainly be comforting to have a reliable backup QB in Denver again. How long has it been since that was the case?

by CoastalBronco on May 21, 2009 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tales = Gems

The grass is always greener on the backup QB before he actually plays, but I am glad Denver has one of Simms’ quality.

Doc, your storytelling and outlook are always a treasure. Thanks for the great read!

by Douglas A. Lee on May 21, 2009 1:08 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, brother

’Glows with pride while licking salmon off his paws…"

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simms

New Here, just thought I would put in my 2 cents worth on Chris Smms, having followed him since the bucs drafted him, now hoping he finds his due in Denver, For the first time at least he has a coach that wants him and a system that better fits his talents, Gruden never wanted him in Tampa and was brutal on him, I read a quote once from an un named nfl exec. that said Gruden puts on a clinic of a head coach destroying the confidence of a young qb, when Simms got his chances he started slow but when he settled down I thought he could be pretty good, he has a very accurate long ball, he needs to stay healthy, but i think he might surprise some people

by Moke on May 21, 2009 1:22 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Moke

I appreciate you dropping by. For what it’s worth, this is what I wrote about Gruden a few weeks ago:

What was it with Jon Gruden and QBs? He collected them like some guys collect stamps, but tosses them aside just as easily. I’ve never understood that approach.

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/4/24/844762/broncos-nfl-draft-dreams-and

The need to properly develop an NFL QB, especially when you draft a man whose predraft scouting specifically says to take time developing him, requires that the QB have a stable system in which the offensive requirements are consistent and coaching to solve issues with mechanics and skillset. Just for interest’s sake, does anyone recall the predraft reports on Tom Brady?

“Long stride, heavy footed…no mobility and will be sacked often…poor arm strength…cannot throw on the run…struggles to throw to his left…insufficient intermediate throwing accuracy…poor mechanics…

The list went on for quite a while. If the Pats hadn’t looked beyond that and set about solving his mechanical issues and giving him the coaching that he needed and the consistency in the offensive scheme that every young QB requires, they very will might not have been the power that they have been this decade. If Coach McDaniels feels that he can work with Simms, he’s very likely right. Stop by again, Moke – nice to hear your voice.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 1:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Prove it

Son of Simms will have to prove a lot to make me stop hating him just for what his dad did to the Broncos. Until then, I’m not really rooting for the guy.

by creamy on May 21, 2009 2:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, creamy?

You hate our player because his father was a good QB and played well against the Broncos? To each his own, but I’m not following your logic, friend.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 21, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As usual....

Really thorough write up, very informative and a pleasure to read. I continue to be gratified every time I come to this site; I come away with something new and not just the usual fan-site name calling and chest thumping. Keep up the great work guys!

by TheMastermind on May 21, 2009 3:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks broncobear. You the bear!

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on May 21, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Old adage, but true

“Ironically, before the Cutler trade, many were calling for Chicago general manager Jerry Angelo to bring Simms on to back up Kyle Orton.”

The Bears backup QB has always been one of the most popular athletes in Chicago. :)

by xteve on May 21, 2009 4:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read as always Doc,

However I must be in the minority, as I see great things from simms—- I have nothing to base
this on, but gut feeling and ( He’s a Lefty ) but come Reg. season, He’s our starting QB.
Now wheres that koolaid!!
13-3 Baby
Rec’d

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on May 21, 2009 6:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What I hope for from the QB spot this year....

…is stable, competent play, without a QB carousel. I’d love fire and flash, and there’s a part of me that thinks and certainly hopes KO will deliver on his big chance; but I’ll take good …iame management and a competitive team effort from either guy behind center this year.

by MakeCents on May 21, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

very nice

i did not know he is a jersey boy thanks broncobear, im loving all this garden state talent the broncos are boasting lately!
new jersey, where you turn right to go left

"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"

"Born like this / Into this"

by BroncoJoe311 on May 21, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

What DO they call those things. Question Marks?

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 21, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol close

jug handles

"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"

"Born like this / Into this"

by BroncoJoe311 on May 21, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ironic that Simms competed with Griese

I’m not really sure what to make of someone who had challenges outplaying Griese. Simms will probably be an adequate backup or have a Griese-like journeyman career. At least he is a tough guy, I wish him the best of luck.

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on May 21, 2009 11:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Two Down

Your “Tales” on Orton and Simms were excellent. I’m really looking forward to your take on Brandstater. It would seem he has all of the traits that McDaniels wants in a QB.

by St. James Bronc on May 22, 2009 12:05 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It's on the agenda

We have a few road to tread first, but I’m enjoying learning about Tom

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on May 22, 2009 1:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Simms

I think healing the past three years from spleen injury will have a positive outcome on Simms future. His maturation as a person and football player should make him a better QB for the Broncos, first as a back up. His mental maturity should help improved and his understanding for the game and his leadership traits on the field. He has all the tools and his decision making should improve through maturation. Though he’s competing in mini camps and performing in the system, I think he needs to prove it on the field against real players under actual game conditions to test his physical, emotional, and decision making [mental] progress, that is the real question? Time will tell.

oc60

by oc60 on May 22, 2009 9:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

MileHighReport(MHR) is the ultimate independent resource for the Denver Broncos on the web. Along with MHR Radio, the official podcast of MHR, we look to provide hardcore Denver Broncos fans positive, independent insight about the Broncos, 24/7/365!
Start posting about the Broncos »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

Comcast NFL RedZone Moments from SB Nation

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Building the Team
Tjpic1_small
The Dude's Mail Sack: Is Kyle Orton Eye Candy?
Hpim2076_small
ST's- The Kickoff Coverage Unit
La_la_mascot_small
The Official 2010 Opening of 'La-La-Land' and a Little History for New Members!
Cyborg_small
Bannan, Edwards; What Did McX See In Week 8?

Recent FanPosts

Thinker_statue_small
Quinn will start
Clay-davis2_small
McD Calls Kyle, Confirms He's Still Our Starter (for now)
Scottishbodhi_small
Our QB Situation (IMHO)
Small
Ok now what?
Small
Brady Quinn vs Kyle Orton
Small
Broncos Acquired Brady Quinn
Cnr_normal_small
Brady Quinn?
Small
Rumor: Jets putting package together for Marshall
8525_149502223474_749673474_3389006_3068401_n_small
First Round NFL Mock Draft *With Broncos Tid-bits sprikled throughout*
Images-2_small
2010 NFL Mock Draft

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Countdown - Interior

Getting Social With MHR

Facebook_badge_medium_medium
Black_generated_button

Milehighreport_email_medium

SPONSORS

Web Stuff

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn fires a pass in the first quarter of an NFL football game against the Minnesota Vikings Sunday, Sept. 13, 2009, in Cleveland. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan) +2 updates

Cleveland Browns Trade Brady Quinn To Broncos For Peyton Hillis, Conditional Picks

FILE - In this Sept. 4, 2009 file photo, San Francisco 49ers quarterback Shaun Hill aims a pass downfield against the San Diego Chargers during the first quarter of an NFL preseason football game in San Diego. Hill earned the starting job for the 2009 season by beating out Alex Smith, who missed last season after re-injuring his surgically repaired throwing shoulder. Head coach Mike Singletary largely chose Hill based on his play down the stretch last year: he went 5-3 over the final eight games and he also owns a 5-0 record at home in Candlestick Park.  (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File)

49ers Trade QB Shaun Hill To Lions For Seventh-Round Pick

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, right, makes a statement at the Steelers offices in Pittsburgh, as coach Mike Timlin looks on,  Thursday, July 23, 2009.  Roethlisberger says allegations by a Lake Tahoe casino hostess that he raped her a year ago are "reckless and false." (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar) link

The Time Arnold Palmer Put Ben Roethlisberger In His Place

More from SBNation.com >

Latest NFL Headlines from SB Nation

Music City Miracles
Create a Caption #19 Winner
Gang Green Nation
LT or TJ?
Arrowhead Pride
LaDaianian Tomlinson Gets More Money Than Thomas Jones

General Manager/Head Coach

Milehighreport_small John Bena

Cyborg_small Jeremy Bolander

Asst. Head Coach

Mhr_small Steve Nichols

Tahoetim_small Tim Lynch

Tjpic1_small TJ Johnson

Broncos_camp_2_054_small Sayre Bedinger

Position Coach

Bronco-pride_small BShrout

Me_as_a_simpson_small ejruiz

Quality Control

800px-john_brown_painting_small mdierk