Horse Tracks 5/26/09
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 5:45 AM MDT
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Good Morning, MHR Friends! I was disappointed to see that my Sunday HT raised the hackles of our self-appointed ombudsmen, so I feel like I should explain myself here. I was not taking a shot at J** C**ler; my problem is with the Chicago writers who are already taking however C**ler said, "...the Broncos’ Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal were relative unknowns before their arrival in Denver," (a paraphrased quote of C**ler from last week's ESPN article) and translating it to "well, the Bears receivers can go from nothing to Pro-Bowlers since Marshall and Royal did so."
First of all, Marshall and Royal were not "relative unknowns" when they arrived in Denver. I knew who they were, and I am no Lee Corso. Any knowledgeable football writer knows that Marshall and Royal are talented in their own right and a comparison to the Bears' current crop of receivers is a stretch. I won't be surprised if the Chicago writers stick with this misconception for quite awhile; I could be wrong, but we'll see. A good look at what I had written on Sunday should show that I wasn't criticizing C**ler, but the writer of the story. That was my intention, at least.
Since I have been labeled a "C**ler Basher" I will quickly share what I think of the guy. He is an ultra-talented QB, and I think he will win a Super Bowl someday. He has the physical skills to be one of the greatest. However, I never liked his attitude in Denver, and when you don't call back the boss you've gotta go. Any player who proves himself bigger than the owner cannot stick around.
As for Mr. C**ler, it was never made clear to me that I was not allowed to link to stories about him. If one were to look back over the last couple months, they would find that I've not cited very many, relative to the large numbers available. I linked to Sunday's article because it went into some detail about Marshall and Royal, who are still Broncos (last I checked). I have also linked to many Jake Plummer and John Elway articles in recent months, so perhaps the ombudsmen should let me know if that's okay. Of course, anyone who doesn't want to read about Jay C**ler can just decide not to click on the links.
Okay, back to the news...
DB - Gray Caldwell profiles Broncos DE Rulon Davis, who shares some memories from his time as a Marine and says his individual goal is to become an All-Rookie selection.
DP - Klis shares an amusing story about CB Alphonso Smith from a history class.
WEEI - Christopher Price thinks LS Lonie Paxton was one of Bill Belichick's greatest finds among undrafted free agents.
DP - The Post's editorial section thinks the judge in the D-Will murder case went too far in banning media coverage of the upcoming trial.
Y! - Charles Robinson writes about Mr. Unmentionable, his new and old receivers, and Kyle Orton. At least Robinson knows who Marshall and Royal are.
NFP - Matt Bowen looks at the current fashion; teams switching to 3-4 fronts.
KCS - Teicher thinks the Chefs already showed great improvement over the course of their latest OTAs.
SFC - Nnamdi Asomugha owes much of his success to Alonzo Carter, his personal trainer since Asomugha's freshman year at Cal.
SI - This sounds pretty awful...the Cowboys hired a "consultant" who had no engineering license to help fortify the structure of their practice bubble, before it collapsed. Oh, and he's an ex-con, to boot.
NFL - Saints TE Jeremy Shockey was treated for dehydration at a Las Vegas hospital over the weekend.
NFL - Dolphins DE Randy Starks was charged with aggravated battery for allegedly pinning a police officer against another vehicle with his truck.
FOX - Alex Marvez shares some thoughts on Shockey, StarCaps, and Aqib Talib's apparent anger issues.
NYT - Toni Monkovic thinks people shouldn't worry so much about the '09 schedule based upon the '08 results. Me, too.
NYT - Judy Battista examines the elimination of the wedge from kick coverage; she quotes Matt Bowen, who thinks returners will possibly find more injuries as a result.
NFP - Andrew Brandt looks at the NFL's latest TV deals and team agreements with state lotteries.
NFP - Wes Bunting evaluates the top senior middle linebackers for the 2010 Draft.
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Thanks NYC
And Good Morning!
We don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks. - Calvin
Good Morning nyc, Thank You for all you do on Horse Tracks... that said, I stand by MY comment
on HT Sunday. I also agree with your assessment in todays post. personally I like jay cutler, I still have
my jc saves t-shirt, which I shall treasure. Bottem line, kool aid aside, I am and shall always remain a
Denver Bronco Fan!!
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
Mornin' UB3!
I actually gave my JC Saves shirt away to a Bears fan. Haha.
I’m with you – a Broncos fan first.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks NYC!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
Keep up the good work, NYC.
I didn’t read the comments from Sunday, and I didn’t see anything to cause a ruckus. You provide a cherished service to us, and I applaud you. It seems everyone on all sides of the Cutler divide are raw and looking for a fight for any perceived slight. A few wins ought to go a long way toward smoothing ruffled feathers. Pass the Kool-Aid!
I certainly didn't mean to, no...
But I think cooler heads are prevailing. Thanks for the kind words.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
No worries NYC
For what it’s worth, I thought it was pretty clear that you were talking about the writers’ slant. Thanks for doing the work that we can all always count on here!
Mr. Unmentionable... Love it!!!
Happy Tuesday, and thanks as always for Horse Tracks.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
NYC....
Thanks for making our news gathering a breeze… All I need to do is login and I am current on my Bronco News. Appreciate your daily efforts to keep us in the know.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on May 26, 2009 8:05 AM MDT reply actions
Good Comment
Count me among the ultra-sensitive on comments about Jay Cutler (and I am using his full name now as well as that of Josh McDaniels). I just find it very hypocritical for the Bronco Nation to rip him now while cheering him last Fall. I especially go nuts with comments about his diabetes, which I think make his exploits even more noteworthy.
You have done a good job on explaining your viewpoints on Cutler and some news on him is helpful.
It’s still a very divisive topic. Viewpoints are unlikely to change on it as they are unlikely to change on Josh McDaniels until after next season has taken place.
I appreciate your work and enjoy reading it.
by Baltimore Bronco on May 26, 2009 8:10 AM MDT reply actions
I don't think so.
It isn’t hypocritical if you were genuine in both circumstances. I am not going to be shy to say that I cheered for Jay for every game last season and before last season, too. I have an orange 6 jersey, too, that is now sitting in my closet collecting dust. I was a Cutler fan.
However, just because I don’t cheer for him anymore doesn’t make me hypocritical. He doesn’t play for the Broncos anymore, so it is fine if I cheer against him. I can rip him all I want. The fallout of JayC and the Broncos was epic and hurt players, coaches, and fans alike. The scars are still deep. We can be mournful or angry or joyful about the departure of Jay and that is completely okay.
I see where you are coming from, but your assessment assumes that nothing changed since last fall, when that clearly is not true. A lot has happened between now and then which has shown all of us, fans, a different side of Jay Cutler that we did not see when he was our young Pro Bowl QB.
Viewpoints, opinions and biases do change based on different circumstances. So, people can cheer, boo, rip, think, or speak however they want. People are different and have different ideas and events or circumstances can change that. That certainly does not make them hypocritical, though.
by broncointheville on May 26, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I understand, BB
Of course, I rooted hard for Cutler myself the past couple years. I had very high expectations and hopes for him and his career in Denver. He is still only 26; the events of this past winter/spring do not lessen his potential. It sucks that he’s no longer a Bronco, but I am happy with how the trade went (so far). Again, once he shunned Bowlen that was it for me, too. I was telling everyone I knew until that fateful day that the Broncos would NEVER trade Cutler. I would’ve bet my worldly possessions on it, but fortunately I’m not that sort of betting man. I was always wary of the way Cutler acted on the field; the way he called out teammates and whined to officials. It was there from Day One, it’s still there now. Hopefully he’ll outgrown it…
Jay still has plenty of time to mature into the player we all hoped he would, and I expect that he will. There is just too much time to assume otherwise. But, there is also the chance he is merely on track to follow his idol’s path (Brett Favre). Personally, all the drama Favre brings with him would not be worth the single championship over so many years. I wouldn’t want to have to defend Cutler and his attitude for 15 or 20 years in exchange for one title. That may sound spoiled, but it’s just how I feel.
I hope you can see that I only link to Cutler stories when they are actually relevant to the current Denver Broncos. In other words, if there’s any insight on Kyle Orton to be gained, I want to share the article with all of you. It’s not about keeping tabs on Cutler; I could care less about him at this point. But if Ron Turner or Lovie Smith have something interesting to say about Orton, I’m going to share the link; obviously that means more Cutler. I’m sure you’re not the only one feeling the sting of Cutler’s departure. Hopefully a more competitive Broncos squad in 2009 will go a long way towards salving those wounds.
Thanks for your kind words.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Heh the Chicago groups are hoping that Cutler can make something out of the receivers that he has, I can not blame them for that. But what really bugs me about that article was they dissed Eddie and Brandon! Cutler chose his destiny with this whole mess, if he is happy then better for him. We have plenty of Cutler items in our house but it doesn’t preclude me from being reasonable enough to say he earned the boot from Mr. Bowlen and Coach McDaniels. My college coaching Professor told me that running any team sucessfully meant that it was a dictatorship not a democracy, some people just don’t grasp the concept.
Spot on
I also had a similar coaching class, plus I had the luck of being coached by some of the best (DeBerry is just one of them). The best coaches I have been around, as a player and a coach, run their teams like a dictatorship. The moment it becomes a democracy, the team is done. It is a tough concept to grasp. I just wish some of the parents of the kids I coach understood it. :)
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
You are right about parents
The problem steems from having athletes wanting to be the next Kobe or Lebron, they want to be the man but often fail to understand the team concept. Carmello had finally grapsed the understanding of team, you can be great and still be a team player. My high school head coach taught me a valuable lesson, he stated " I am not here to be liked, I am here to make you the best team possible, I will be respected and be treated with respect, or you will not be on my team no matter how talented you are"!!!
Your HS football coach sounds like mine
My high school football coach, who just retired after 37 years and 5 state championships, said something similar to our team my sophomore year. His statement, one in which I use with my own players, was “you are either with us, or against us.” I have lived by that credo. I have kicked starters off of the team mid-season because they continued to “renegade.” If it is not best for the TEAM, then it will not be tolerated. Period.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
That sounds very familiar.
Do you coach at a high school in Colorado HSFBCoach? If so, where at?
passing camp starts today passing camp starts today passing camp starts today!!!!!
Thanks for horsetracks NYC!
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 26, 2009 8:50 AM MDT reply actions
Its getting crazy...
…when somebody has to qualify the way he writes his links. The HT feature is a cornerstone of this site and I’m guessing it takes a little work. I, for one, appreciate the effort.
That said, I’m starting to be wary of even having an opinion around here anymore, and NYC having to write a disclaimer before HT is symbolic of that. Lately, I’m just not seeing the respect for the free exchange of ideas that is supposed to set MHR apart.
The last thing I’ll personally say about Cutler is this: I was as huge of fan as anybody, but it doesn’t not take hypocrisy or a departure from logic to be effected by the way he handled this mess. Its not because he change uniforms, its because he showed me a glimpse of his character and I didn’t like what I saw. I don’t want a guy like that QB’ing my favorite football team. If thats hypocrisy, then add my name to the list.
I am an idiot walking a tightrope of fortune and fame
I am an acrobat swinging trapezes through circles of flame
If you've never stared off in the distance, then your life is a shame
and though I'll never forget your face,
sometimes i can't remember my name.
--Counting Crows, "Mrs. Potter's Lullaby"
by PredominantlyOrange on May 26, 2009 9:03 AM MDT reply actions
Amen brother.
Bringing Bronco love from 1,114 miles away.
by broncointheville on May 26, 2009 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I cheered jay last year, I cussed jay last year, I wanted to kick his teeth in, he made me so mad.
I don’t remember ever getting as upset with John Elway, even when he made mistakes. Because John Elway was a team player and when he made a mistake he would try to rally the team back in the game. I don’t have a problem with jay (never bought his jersey), I’m just not so sure the Bears got their monies worth. I believe we got the best of the deal. I’ll say this much the fans in Chicago won’t be as forgiving as Bronco fans. Great work, NYC.
Thanks, PO
I appreciate the support. What bothered me the most about Sunday’s reactions was that my own opinions are perceived totally incorrectly. I was labeled a Cutler Hater and a Kool-Aid Drinker, of which I am neither. A careful reading of my previous words should bear that out. Just like all Broncos fans, I was hurt by Cutler’s actions; however, I don’t think that clouds my judgment. Cutler is quite talented, but he is yet to prove himself a winner. I actually think he will turn that around; but it is yet to happen.
As for my view of McDaniels and Company; I love Shanny and wish he was still here. However, he did such a terrible job on the personnel side of things that it just wasn’t possible. The Broncos were a very poor team in 2007 and 2008; worse than most people realize. It goes a lot deeper than their record – Shanny coached the heck out of the talent he gave himself, and the Broncos overachieved to their 7-9 and 8-8 records. I have an article explaining just how much so they overachieved coming soon…
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Mornin' All
Thanks again Nyc for your Daily input on this site. I particularly enjoy the little snippets of humorous opinion that you bring with your commentary. You make the days start off just a bit easier for everyone “Jonesing” for info on our Team. I believe that you have the right to state your views as much as anyone here, and also think that your work is an asset to the community. It works — Don’t change a thing.
I liked Charlie Robisons article. He is one MSM member that is more accurate than most. He does get a little creative with his writing, but he doesn’t get too far fetched. His article was fair, and it appears that the Bears OC, Ron Turner at least is a realist.
Personally, I was never a Jay Cutler fan, I LOVE the Broncos, and I rooted for him and wanted him to do well, but I have been extremely tired of ANY and ALL Athletes who refuse to participate as a TEAM member, for a long time. Egotism is a terrible disease, right up there with Ignorance and Apathy. They CAN be overcome with “learning” and “Realization.” When somebody who earns a bigger salary than the median person, they have absolutely no room to snivel in my book. My reaction to those individuals is always “Shut Up and Play!”
With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg
Thanks, Kirk
I have never claimed to be unbiased; I am a Broncos fan. That is why I joined this site, and it’s also why I joined the staff. I am glad that so many out there enjoy my sarcasm; it’s obviously not for everyone, but that’s okay!
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
No retraction necessary NYC-Great Post!
Reading HT yesterday was an example of what we hear on sports talk shows on a regular basis out here. NYC you were NOT off base in using this as an example of the reporting out of the Windy City when it comes to JC.
Being a die hard Bronco fan it was difficult at first, especially the first time I called in to one of the shows and was ridiculed for being a Bronco Fan. (I chalked it up to ignorance by the experts.) But the more I see, the more I like the trade, the direction of the team and especially Coach McDaniels.
Oh and being in a fantasy keeper league with Mr. Cutler as trade bait doesn’t hurt either when 9 of the 12 team owners are drinkin’ the Bears Kool Aid.
13-3 Baby!!
Go Broncos
The QB position is set.
Thanks, IL
You just need to not watch your local news, I guess. Jeez. Perhaps ignore the sports section also. I hope you’re able to auction Cutler off for quite a haul.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I said this on the other HT as well:
I am not sure everyone realizes how much effort has to go into bring Horse Tracks each and every day. NYC is about as reliable as they come in this regard. I tried to help with Horse Tracks a long time ago and after one or two times I said “screw that!”. NYC brings us links EVERY DAY! Many of those links I would never have found on my own. I appreciate it to no end.
As for his commentary, that is probably more for his own benefit and fun. I don’t always agree with what he says, but he did ALL OF THE WORK to bring the link to me and I am not going to sit there and bitch about what he had to say about it! I don’t even mention the fact that I disagree with him…I just read the stories and respond if I feel moved too. Agree or disagree, I only respond to the story itself!
For some reason, some of us seem to think that anything a “staffer” writes is the “company line” of the entire site. This just isn’t true. Those of us on the staff are opinionated and disagree on many things, but the only company line we have is that we are Bronco fans first…bloggers second. Of course, Guru and styg are probably a little different in that regard because they have to focus more on credibility and that stuff, but for the rest of us(staff and contributors alike) we get to be fans first.
Kool aid or not, we are fans…I will not defend myself over accusations of kool aid drinking. If I believe something that someone else believes is kool aid, then so be it. That is your opinion, we will agree to disagree. All I have to say is that I am a Bronco fan, not a Bears fan…I support Bowlen over Cutler. Period. I suggest to anyone, that if NYC offers commentary that you disagree with…don’t be offended by it, take it as the opinion of one person and voice your opposition to it. No need to drag MHR or NYC through the mud…state your opposition to his opinion and keep it to that. There is no conspiracy or negativity about MHR as a whole…some of us think Cutler is a classless individual, while others do not. This is just part of being a Bronco fan right now…MHR is not driving one side or the other.
If you believe it is, then I’d be open to listening to how. I am sure you have tons of links supporting your theory, but be sure to also link the equal number of links of people who support Cutler. Guru will not silence anyone who supports Cutler, but nor he stop anyone who is less than enamored with his actions towards the Broncos. That’s the whole point of this blog isn’t it? An open platform of ideas. And that doesn’t mean that anyone on the “staff” isn’t allowed to voice their opinion once in a while…in fact, that is the only reason why are on the “staff”. I hope this makes sense.
As I write this though, I am wondering if the reason this hit home so hard is that Horse Tracks is like everyone’s daily orange and blue coffee and to have NYC voice his opinion to the point where people who love Horse Tracks suddenly felt like it was no longer “theirs”, then perhaps we should think about that. Horse Tracks is NYC’s baby now, but it is also the bread and butter of why many people love linking up with us and since it is beloved by so many perhaps NYC should be more tactful in how he gives his opinion when giving us the links… I don’t know, I am just rambling and throwing out Dr. Phil like suggestions. :)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on May 26, 2009 9:50 AM MDT reply actions 4 recs
I have a simple rule....
I’m reluctant to criticize anyone whose job I am reluctant to do. I don’t think I’d be willing to get up EVERY morning and do HT. I suggest that anyone who wants to criticise nyc should consider whether they are willing to take over HT. If not, perhaps tone down the rhetoric
by SlowWhiteGuy on May 26, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Ha, thanks SWG
Criticism is more than fine, so is disagreement. I just don’t like having my opinions misrepresented or my motives questioned. Appreciate your viewpoint, as always.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Horse Tracks is NYC’s baby now, but it is also the bread and butter of why many people love linking up with us and since it is beloved by so many perhaps NYC should be more tactful in how he gives his opinion when giving us the links…
This is an interesting thought. I for one would miss NYC’s take, so if this happens, NYC please post any of your more snarky perspectives in the comments (even if I don’t agree with one every now and again. A huge thanks for all you do every day!
I agree, I don't want him to do anything different.
I’d rather people just realize NYC has an opinion and should be able to make his snarky remarks. It’s all for fun really…but some fans are taking this Cutler business very profoundly personal…almost to the point of renouncing their fandom.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
I'd say
That this means that they were never really fans of the team- they are fans of that particular player.
Which is fine, of course. The only issue I have with those folks is that often they are confused about what the team is, and don’t seem to understand that the team is always more and bigger than that one player, or coach, for that matter. ANY player or coach- even owner.
Me, I’m a fan of the team- one guy hitting the road won’t ever cause me to renounce that.
In my mind, individuals come and go in the Not For Long, but the team remains, as do I as a fan of the team.
by AllBroncsallday on May 26, 2009 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions
At the same time, I also try to identify with them in this way...
How would I have reacted if Bowlen had traded Elway instead of firing Dan Reeves?
To me, at the point in my childhood, Elway was the Broncos…I would have most likely followed him to the ends of the Earth.
I must honestly admit, that I did not fully become a Bronco fan until about a year or two after Elway retired. I left football after TD got injured and we started so horribly. I don’t think I was actually a fan again until the following season. I became a fan of Elway in the early 80’s…he and the Broncos went hand in hand. It took a while for me to develop what I now consider, true fandom. Win, lose, or draw I will be a Broncomaniac…but
But I must consider that some of these guys felt about Cutler as much as I felt about Elway and it is something they will have to come to grips about sometime soon. I was fortunate. After Elway left, I really couldn’t follow him to a new team could I? That’s the difference…there never really was a choice of switching teams, if I was going to continue being a football fan then there wasn’t any chance I would switch my loyalties…it was just a matter of deciding if I even cared about football as a whole anymore. lol
My hope is that, though we will lose a few fans, most will come around and realize they are Bronco fans first.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on May 26, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I get it
I understand why they’re ticked, I just don’t share the sentiment. I’m guessing that’s because I’ve seen so many come and go in the organization and the team survived just fine, but I don’t really know why that is exactly.
I just know I’m a fan of the team. Anyone that doesn’t want to be a member of the team, fine- don’t let the door hit ya.
by AllBroncsallday on May 26, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions
The snark is the best part in my opinion
But y’all know me and snark
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on May 26, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Dr. Zappa---Great Feedback, Rec'd---Now many of you may not realize---but when I get up every morning, First thing with
coffee—-I thank nyc for Horse Tracks. I feel if he’s willing to get up early to bring us all Bronco and other news from
around the league. The least I can do is get up early and thank him; and I don’t think I’ve missed a day in months.
NYC I appreciate all that you do——Thanks again…
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
same here...i gave up coffee cause my wife did while she is preggo, so now HT is my only coffee. lol
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Yep
With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg
Thanks, Zappa
Obviously, anything I write which has opinion will find folks who agree and those who disagree. I’m fine with that; that’s why we blog, right?!
Like Zappa says – John (nor anyone else) tells us what to write or how to think. There is no company line, just an incredible sharing of knowledge and insight. I am a fan like everyone else, and I have my own reactions. But generally I will wait for some explanation as to “why” before I come up with my own judgment/take. I can always find that reason here on MHR, which is the best reason (for me) to be a member here.
Those of us on the MHR staff do not agree on everything. We’re all very different people with differing viewpoints from most corners of the USA. Just because we don’t always bicker about our differences here on MHR, don’t assume that we are a bunch of lemmings…
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Thank you, Zappa
It was very kind of you to save me writing that comment, especially since you did it better than I could. SWG has it right (write?) as well. Tracks can strike any danged tone it wishes, as long as nyc is willing to do an incredible amount of work every single day without fail. Seriously, folks – I don’t know of anyone else who is willing, able, talented and giving enough to perform this little daily miracle. My own perspective is that criticizing the man who does this just because he reported a link with a little style isn’t in anyone’s interest.
However, if anyone else wants to daily get up, perform this service and post with a different perspective, I’d welcome their efforts. I’m not pointing fingers and this isn’t aimed at any one person. I just feel strongly that we sometimes take great effort for granted.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
I'd rather keep NYC.
The dude is a guru with finding stuff on the ‘net. I’ve got him helping me find information on old Broncos I am planning to write about that I never got to enjoy actually seeing live. That’s all I will say. :)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Don't worry. Be happy.
Don’t sweat it, the HT’s have been fantastic. I’m interested in articles relating to anything Broncos, even when they involve He Who Must Not Be Named.
by 3RingsHeProbablyKnowsSomething on May 26, 2009 10:28 AM MDT reply actions
haha -can we get a shopped pick of Voldemort and Cutler?
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 26, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
pick = pic (as in picture)
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 26, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I would love to see that...just like I loved seeing this one:
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
dude I posted this when this whole thing started!
awesome picture
http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on May 26, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions
It is awesome. I have it on my cell phone...and txt sent it to everyone I know. :)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Thanks NYC,
I don’t think people realize the amount of effort you put into HT on a daily basis. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, your opinion is viewed under the microscope more so than others. I’m sure you didn’t get where you are by being a Jay Cutler hating troll either. Thanks a bunch.
A side note here, anyone know what to do with an infant cutler jersey that hasn’t been worn yet. Can’t let the soon to be born Bronco fan start life out this way.
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton
Thanks, diviesti
I try to focus any hate in HT toward Al Davis, the Raiders, A.J. Smith, the Dolts and Chefs. At least I know that if I redirect it elsewhere, I’ll hear about it very quickly here! Haha
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Well
It would be appropriate wear for an infant. :-)
With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg
by KaptainKirk on May 26, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Whoops
As for the jersey…how about eBay?
by Douglas A. Lee on May 26, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
How about Goodwill for the jersey
Besides an Eddie Royal jersey is more classy
do you think a louisville goodwill will even take it???
lol
Bringing Bronco love from 1,114 miles away.
by broncointheville on May 26, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a Cutler apologist
But no worries from my end of the intertubes at all, NYC. I love your work and appreciate the effort as always!!!
Cutler-who?? ;)
Your work is makin me lazy
Its so good I just wait for it to come out rather then do any searching. Its a life saver and I’m grateful big-time. In fact, I don’t wanna hurt anyone’s feelings, but it kinda makes the site for me….You DA man. I think a little opinion helps others question their judgment. We all gotta learn to communicate and work with people we don’t like or agree with. Its a good learning experience. Besides, when blogging, it should be easier to do. I recommend a weekly roast of the most overly emotional responses to any post/comment. Anyone?.
On the topic of one of the articles
The story of Alphonso Smith in the history class has me contemplating a Smith AFL Jersey. That story is EPIC! Thanks NYC!
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
Good choice Stu.
All the squawkin’ goin’ on Sunday don’t mean doodley-squat (spitin’ a chew out the open windor whilst I keep one eye on the ‘ol bare in the tulip bed). Some folks have a hard time with the ’man’ love thing. Time will heal all wounds. The job you do nyc is a wonderful testament of the value we have, keep up the great work.
by bfree2bronc on May 26, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Just thinking
Is it me, or does that article demonstrate that Smith has the PERFECT set of attributes to be a CB or what?
He analyzed the situation, had the utmost faith in his abilities, prepared for the situation over the course of a week, and then…executed flawlessly under the pressure with the full confidence of his classmates.
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
EPIC is right!
I can’t stop laughing!!! If the man is that shrewd and sagacious on the gridiron, we’re going to be hawking a few balls!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 26, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't worry NYC
The internet is full of drama queens. You always state your opinions in intelligent and balanced ways; some people just can’t tolerate hearing what they don’t want to hear.
by TheMastermind on May 26, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
NYC
opinions are allowed to be stated and you have every right to yours. Also I have yet to see anything other than slight/ dry humor in regards to Cutler on the Horse Tracks. If we are not allowed to take pot shots than who is. You do a fine Job NYC and it is much appreciated.
To those who said things on Sunday and tried to insight trouble- IF YOU DONT LIKE THE LINK DONT CLICK ON IT. I dont follow every link in the Horse Tracks but I do appreciate the effort given and I read a lot of the links!
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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
+2, and the wheels on the bus go round and round...
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
Ditto
With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg
lmao
Quote by Orlando Pace from the Charles Robinson article:
I feel really good – great, actually. This is the best I’ve felt in four years. They have a really good strength program. It’s helping me clean a lot of stuff out, a lot of pains in my body out. I do a lot more stretching than I ever have in the past. I probably get stretched every day now. I’m just really taking care of my body more than ever and training a lot differently.
I question how a professional can be one of the best at his trade without stretching every day. It amazes me really: his job is to put (and keep) his body on the field, and get paid way more than the average joe to do it, and he doesn’t even stretch?
Jason
The Hanging Curve
After all that I forgot what i was going to write!
I CAN say this… This is the first place and often the ONLY place I come for my Broncos fix…. Thank you to all the folks who spend their time compiling so much info & so many great posts, commentary or otherwise.
Thanks!
Hello bronco nation once again. I see that everyone is upbeat and that’s great! You of course know that I was late telling you how much I admire your strength through everything and things can only get better! i couldn’t believe that people thought that your work could create some drama. Believe me when I tell you that this is great stuff and it’s always well written. I haven’t read any ugly remarks toward the bears or Jay and that says that you have REAL CLASS! Once again, I wish bronco nation the best of luck and you will get it done!
Needagoodtime!
Keep the Horse Tracks the same
I think that you have done a good job of keeping the opinionated stuff out of your Horse Tracks posts. Cutler was our QB, and most of us Broncos still want to hear what others have to say about him. I don’t think that your comments stepped over the boundary as far as bashing goes. We all like Broncos related information, and I think that is what your primary concern was in posting links to these stories. Thanks.
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