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Training Camp

In 2007 the Broncos entered Training Camp with high hopes. We suffered through two-a-days and did well in our first two preseason games. Then we played Dallas. We trained with the Cowboys most of the week prior and were confident going into the game that we would get a good look at our new talent. We were physically manhandled. We were dominated on both sides of the ball in the trenches in that game. I knew right then and there we were in for a long season. There simply wasn’t enough magic in the Coach Shanahan’s wand to make up for the lack of size, speed and talent in the trenches. 

 

I really wanted to see what progress we had made last year. Denver was doing the same “play with the Cowboys” deal they had done the previous year except in Denver instead of Dallas.  I made the pilgrimage to Denver for Training Camp with the goal of watching the Broncos practice a few times and then watch Denver play the Cowboys at Invesco.  I was greatly impressed.  We won the game, but more importantly we were competitive in the trenches. It was obvious to me at that early point that Clady was the real deal. Nalen was out by then and Wiegmann was picking up our system very quickly. On defense we really hadn’t solidified yet, but we held our own at the point of attack. We were not being pushed off the line of scrimmage five yards as we had the year before.

 

I could have predicted all of this from the four practices I had viewed the week before the Dallas game.  I knew from those practices that Eddie Royal was something special. I got to see many of the things I had learned on the MHR from Hoosier Teacher and styg in action. I had no computer so I had to phone my reports in to Bronco Bear to post for me.

 

Last year’s experience was so fantastic that I have decided to do it again this year. I have my tickets and will be in Denver from July 23rd until August 3rd. I know that multiple sets of eyes will be more effective than mine alone. Is any one willing to join me at training camp during those days? My vision is to have at least seven of us at each practice. I would like to have one set of eyes on O Line, D Line, Linebackers, CB’s and Safeties, WR/TE’s, RB/FB’s, and QB’s.  We would watch drills as well as 7 on 7’s and 11 on 11’s while focusing on our assigned areas. If we are really lucky we can get styg to develop evaluation sheets for each group. I am fairly certain ht will give us help in what to watch for in terms of schemes, such as the TED blocking by our linebackers. This would be key things to watch for such as fluid hips in DB’s or one-cut ability in RB’s.  Are our QB’s effective at looking off a D Back?

 

So, is anyone interested in joining me? Let me know. My email address is on my profile page and I would love to hear from anyone who would like to go. We might even be successful in getting Diehard to join us at The South for a refreshing beverage and the opportunity to shake hands with Jerry Sturm.

 

BTW, please rec. this post to keep it active for a few days so everyone gets a chance to see it. There are so many great posts these days that they drop off the most recent list in a day! Thanks.

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Absolutely!!

I’ll be there for sure. Just a request, could you post a ‘roster’ of the people who are going and their real names? If they oblige, of course.

And BTW, how did this get eleven rec’s (now 12) in just two hours with no comments?

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on May 28, 2009 3:46 PM MDT reply actions  

We have four for sure

and five if Ned can make it. I guess NewNed takes precedence. When we get our group I will send out real names and email addresses to all attending. Thanks to all for the recs!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 28, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Because the OP said this...

BTW, please rec. this post to keep it active for a few days so everyone gets a chance to see it. There are so many great posts these days that they drop off the most recent list in a day! Thanks.

The healing process has begun....

by ohiobronco on May 28, 2009 4:19 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm moving there in two weeks

so definitely count me in.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by A.J. Haefele on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM MDT reply actions  

congratulations!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on May 28, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

FirstFan,

Enjoy yourself! That sounds really awesome and be sure to report often. Do me a small favor, when looking at Knowshon tell me if he reminds you of 44 or 30? Being someone who has seen Little play, you would know best.

Moreno in 2009! - Check
Taylor Mays in 2010!

by Steve O' on May 28, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Consider it done!

That is one of the things i wanted to see for myself!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wish I could go!

I would try to go if I didn’t live in Minnesota, I’m stuck with watching the Chefs.

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno is the boss!

by stedtfeld on May 28, 2009 8:17 PM MDT reply actions  

I am making plans for 2010 (I hope we get the MHR-CON up and going by then too)

I think I might be able to swing lodging for a few folks at that time. This summer won’t work for me.

Shoot me an e-mail. I’d be glad to help in any way I can with prepping lists of what I would watch for. Have a safe trip, and a great time. I trust your eyes at camp as much as my own.

Peace be with you,

HT

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on May 28, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I'll throw my hat in the ring for 2010 as well

I’d love to go this year but simply can’t. I’ve been a fan since 77 but living out here in the weeds I have yet to see a practice let alone a live Broncos game.

If that’s not enough to have my fan card revoked, you should know my only real live NFL game was a Browns-Jets disaster that the Jets won in Cleveland 6-3, the week before Browns met the Bengals and set the second highest record for combined scoring in a single game.

: )

"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster

by broncosmontana on May 29, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha you fan card is safe

ive been to only one bronco game so i know how it feels
have you ever looked thru stubhub? its a lot easier to find bronco tickets than i thought

"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"

"Born like this / Into this"

by BroncoJoe311 on May 29, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would seriously like to try to make at least one this year

if I can fit a road trip into my schedule!

"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster

by broncosmontana on May 29, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Watching Curtis Martin was cool, tho

"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster

by broncosmontana on May 29, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

As was sitting in the Dawg Pound

"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster

by broncosmontana on May 29, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you my friend.

2009 can be the forerunner.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think I will make it this year

I have wanted to go every season, but this year I have an Oxygen tank to deal with. Logistics prevent me at this time. Hopefully next year, I’m getting better each month. Dare I hope to attend a game this year. (Dare, Dare)We shall see Precious.

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 28, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

OOOH!

I SO look forward to MHR – CON. Can’t wait to meet this wonderful community in person.

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on May 28, 2009 9:41 PM MDT reply actions  

firstfan I envy you, I really do,

you see, I leave up here in dreaded Idaho and I have been appointed to count the salmon as they swim past the place this year. I know it’s a terrible job but somebody has to it. I may try to make a week next year. Have a great time and send the info back.

by bfree2bronc on May 28, 2009 10:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Another great plan

First Fan, I’ll be in the mix. Practice out at Dove Valley will be “wait & see” depending on my daily schedule. Looking forward to seeing you again. Keep me informed.
DD

About playing against Joe Namath "He's the best in the Business, he can do everything, but I've never seen a Quarterback yet that can throw on his back." - Dave Costa 1969

by Denver Diehard on May 28, 2009 10:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Will do

Maybe we can catch a little Johnny Cash.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

DD

I think we are ready for a fan shot with a sound clip. I remember hearing last year how great you are!

My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.

by YellowStoneBronco on May 29, 2009 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

You must have heard FF talking about the cold beer

I had the pleasure of meeting FF and his lovely other half at my favorite howling bar last Summer. Theres a lot of great venues around town that we can hook up that will have a mic and music. Good drinks, food and friends is what it’s about.

Unfortunately, I don’t have a good recording of my Johnny Cash that I can put up on the web, but maybe I could sing when we hook up during training camp. As I remember, didn’t Styg say he can do a pretty good “Poncho & Lefty”?

About playing against Joe Namath "He's the best in the Business, he can do everything, but I've never seen a Quarterback yet that can throw on his back." - Dave Costa 1969

by Denver Diehard on May 29, 2009 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm good for a Friday practice somewhere in there for sure.

Are we not doing the MHR-CON this year? I live in the area so I was hoping to meet the group.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on May 28, 2009 11:08 PM MDT reply actions  

I'll put you down for a Friday!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I need your email address.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 30, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I will be there...

but in the media role. That said, we have to head out one evening to enjoy some of Denver’s night life! An unofficial MHR-Con!

-TSG

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by John Bena on May 29, 2009 5:54 AM MDT reply actions  

For Sure.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

What is the CON in MHR-CON?

All you get from drafting the "best player available" is a team full of good football players.

by orangeblood on May 29, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions  

CONvention

-TSG

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by John Bena on May 29, 2009 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Guru.

All you get from drafting the "best player available" is a team full of good football players.

by orangeblood on May 29, 2009 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought it was CONference

:)

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on May 29, 2009 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

good luck with MHR-Con

:( it sucks being on the west coast. LOL

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.

by Brian Shrout on May 29, 2009 9:20 AM MDT reply actions  

B I agree

It sucks being out here in California. Can’t say I’m on the coast as I live the Sacramento area. I used to schedule my vacations for camp when I was single on active duty. My parents lived ten minutes from the Northern Colorado campus…..Lots of fun.

I look forward to all the great reporting and insight that will come ouf of MHR-Con….

by bchiper on May 29, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

:)

LA area here,

My mom lives in Centennial, about 15-20 min from Dove Valley if you miss all the lights. I may just have to plan a road trip to Denver in August. :D

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

by Brian Shrout on May 29, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

sucks??

dont take the ocean for granted!! even though im east coast born and bread i still dont think i could ever be landlocked (unless i found a place in the denver area)

"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"

"Born like this / Into this"

by BroncoJoe311 on May 29, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't take the ocean for granted

That’s why I have 2 sailboats & go sailing as often as I can :D

The sucks is in reference to not being able to go to Broncos games, and the fact that our games very rarely ever get broadcast in the LA area.

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

by Brian Shrout on May 29, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey Joe

Grew up north of Denver so land locked wouldn’t be an issue for me…

by bchiper on May 29, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

I live in Carmichael, CA. I work at Sac State(until the end of June)… Need a Bronco party on gamedays….

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on May 29, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm in on the Bronco parties Zap...

You’re changing jobs in June? I’m in Elk Grove, hit me up. We’ll make something happen.

Taylor Mays in '10

by donbok1 on May 29, 2009 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

For those of us who are in town but can't get off work to go to camp

Make sure to send out details of the evening excursions. It would be great to meet you guys and hang out!

by Eyecore13 on May 29, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Will do.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd be all for it...

…but I’m 800 miles away and have four kids, three under 6, two under three, and they are my current occupation. I doubt I can get the time off. But I love the idea.

I am an idiot walking a tightrope of fortune and fame
I am an acrobat swinging trapezes through circles of flame
If you've never stared off in the distance, then your life is a shame
and though I'll never forget your face,
sometimes i can't remember my name.
--Counting Crows, "Mrs. Potter's Lullaby"

by PredominantlyOrange on May 29, 2009 12:18 PM MDT reply actions  

We will do our best to give you

the best MHR reporting we can. Nothing will be filtered by the MSM.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 29, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

but if it's not filtered by MSM

what will we have to poke fun at?

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

by Brian Shrout on May 29, 2009 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anything I contribute.

I’m short, so expect me to talk about helmets a lot.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by A.J. Haefele on May 31, 2009 3:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

by Brian Shrout on Jun 5, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll be there everyday

I would love to help out, Im not much of a football evaluator but I’m in. It would be nice just to meet some of you guys.

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

Vince Lombardi

by Denver_Native on May 29, 2009 3:22 PM MDT reply actions  

From my observations

last camp, you don’t have to be HT or SWB or Bronco Bear to figure all this out. The speed of Eddie royal stood out so dramatically last year even i could see he was special. Every set of eyes helps!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 30, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don, since summer is super busy for Alaskan construction

I probably can’t get away (even though I really need to!). I look forward to reading all the reports.

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on May 29, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Thank you my friend.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 30, 2009 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great idea firstfan...

I can’t give a definite yes, but keep me informed so I can find you guys just in case I make it. It will be an extremely busy and stressful time for me, so maybe 3 to 4 days amongst friends and Broncos will be just what I need. Mark me down as a definite “I’m not sure but maybe”.

Taylor Mays in '10

by donbok1 on May 29, 2009 8:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Done

Thank you!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on May 30, 2009 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

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