"The distance you throw the ball down the field, to me at times it can be very overrated," McDaniels said. "I’m worried about accuracy. I’m concerned with them reading the plays the right way, getting it to the people that need to have it on time."
- Josh McDaniels on the importance (or unimportance) of the long ball. Charles Robinson of Yahoo! profiles McDaniels, examining his decision to trade for Kyle Orton rather than draft Mark Sanchez or Josh Freeman, or trade for Jason Campbell or Luke McCown. Robinson also looks at McDaniels' coaching style and what he faces in 2009. Thanks to KaptainKirk for the link!
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I thought so;
Not trying to tute my horn, but I mentioned this what i thought a few days ago on horse tracks.
Ball control is important
But it also helps if the other team thinks you can and will go deep – it helps open things up underneath.
Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance
McDaniels is sharp...
And he has a lot of background that works in his favor.
People will talk about his training under BB and Saban, but most are missing the boat!
The formation of his coaching skills have come from his father: a nuts and bolts foundation coach that put the player first and concentrated on GREAT basic skills that set high school players up for success.
Jedi takes this formation into what he is doing in Denver, and that is where he differs from other ex Pats assistants.
He realizes things that work for his dad work in ALL levels of coaching.
We need to keep that in mind when trying to get a handle on him.
Lots more than meets the eye!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on May 4, 2009 12:32 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks nyc and the kaptain, nice find---although I have to agree with boydy, one cannot compare apples to oranges.
Coming from the ( Same ) coaching tree, as has been talked about. I cannot see how anyone would think success or failure
hinges on the statistics of former coaches. Thats like saying all Quarterbacks from the same school, having the same coach will enjoy
the same success. Last I checked, each and everyone of us ( including McD, & other coaches ) are Individuals. Each speaking
from a different shade of Orange/Blue.
OK, I’ll step down from my soapbox. ;-)
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on May 4, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Factoid
McDaniels has been standing on the sidelines of a gridiron at least as long as Woody Paige has been writing for the Denver Post.
We might mention this whenever we hear someone call him “McKid”. ; )
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 4, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Good point bm, and why do people keep questioning
McDaniels coaching credential and ability to coach. He has already proven he can pick players that have character and skills, he’s already proven he can judge prospects for ability and character, what else does he have to do folks??? He will be sucessful at winning too! How old is Tomlin? How old was John Madden? I guess for some people it will take a Super Bowl win (this year) to really come on board. I’ll tell what, if we don’t have a good season, I’m gonna turn the computer for at least 6 months because that’s all you hear. It gets old, we need to move on and discuss the real issues, not McDaniels ability to efficiently coach. 13-3 Baby!!!
I feel ya bfree
nicely said
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 4, 2009 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting Post
I think I would agree.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
This article
explains why I’m excited to have McDaniels as the team’s head coach.
I don’t expect them to win a super bowl next season, but unlike a lot of “experts” I expect them to compete. And Robinson’s article goes over a lot of the reasons why I feel that way.
Killing rumors
After some have called McDaniels a ‘dictator’, overbearing, arrogant and a few things that araen’t repeatable, I’m glad to have the opinion of someone who was there to see this:
Certainly, there are elements that are clear to see. He’s extremely detail oriented, to the point where he involves himself in specific teaching. He spent Sunday showing wideouts how and where he expected them to come out of their breaks, working with running backs on their positioning coming out of the backfield, and kept a constant dialogue with his quarterbacks. Meanwhile, he delegated authority, <em>often leaving defensive coordinator Mike Nolan – and his wealth of coaching experience – to drill and manage without someone looking over his shoulder.
"He kind of reminds me of coach [Tony] Dungy that way," said Broncos defensive end Darrell Reid , who played with the Indianapolis Colts last season. "He checks in, but he lets his coaches do their job."
And while that transition to the 3-4 and Nolan’s ability to expedite it will be pivotal, there are few illusions about where the microscope will be pointed
I added the bold Italics. That line was very important – every good teacher who is also a leader knows that he needs to be involved enough to know everything that is going on, and he needs to make sure that he’s giving his people enough reins so that they are controlling their own responsibilities. That’s a tough line to walk, and it looks from every piece of film I see and every interview and analysis that I read that McD is doing a darned good job of it.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Doc Bear on May 4, 2009 2:51 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Notice all the people he is being compared to…none of them are bad.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
Great as usual broncobear.
Any good leader will let his subordinates do their job, as long as they are doing their job.
Leader
And a good leader will fire those that are not doing their job.
I like the guys that McDaniels has surrounded himself with. To win, you must have good subordinates.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
Somewhat mixed message
He states arm strength not that big of a deal, yet marvels that Kyle Orten over threw Eddie Royal, yet claims that accuracy is the key, seems like in in acurate throw, something that would conceren me.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I think you are taking it out of context...
On the one hand McD is defending his QB from a frequent criticism, while at the same time emphasizing a football point he thinks the media mistates. This is not the first time he has done that.
But no where does McD ever imply that the missed throw is acceptable.
Sometimes you try to hard to find fault.
I think unless I'm mistaken
It gets harder to be accurate the deeper the pass is. Elway didn’t hit all of his 30+ yard passes BY FAR.
Twist it however you want I guess…some people will always look for the bad.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Elway only hit those in the final minutes of the game baby!!!!!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
ka-CHOW!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 4, 2009 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions
To quote the recently retired Madden
BOOM!!!
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
goes the dynamite? ^^
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 5, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Overthrows
aren’t actually an accuracy issue. They’re more of a timing issue. The QB has to get used to the receivers speed so that he knows how far to lead the WR. It just takes time working together to get this timing down.
Let me clarify.
McD was pleased Orton overthrew Royal, noting his arm strength not being as big of an issue as the media says it is compared to Cutler. While also stressing the importance of accuracy over arm strength, thus making sure there is no mistake which of two is more important to him. Orton can work on accuracy in camp.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Well, practice is one thing, game time is another
I am sure Orten has arm strength, but I rather see it under pressure and not in sweet pants, and my point being if he isn’t very accurate in practice with no pressure, then how does that translate to the actual game.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I agree. I can't wait until the first pre season game.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
One overthrown pass
doesn’t mean “he isn’t very accurate in practice.” McDaniels simply picked out that instance to make a point about arm strength. You’re taking the comment and situation out of context in order to make a negative point.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Orton is not Cuter
That much we can agree on. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? We will not know until the ‘player’ faces a real defense. I think it is pretty obvious that Kyle does not have Jay’s arm, yet the season may show that he is the better total package – or maybe not. He may have hooked up on that pass the previous four reps …. maybe Eddie took a step off during the route and should have been where the ball landed. Maybe it is just the 5th practice together and the two need to work out timing. We can probably agree that in Chi town Kyle was not in the best situation to develope as a complete QB. But for heavens sake lets wait until at least preseason before we throw anyone under the bus!
Lol
I thought “the player” was Cutler
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
Cutler? Who's Cutler?
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
You know, that new kid up in Chicago
Guess he is supposed to be some sort of hot shot, but he is just a little short in the W’s column to be making too much noise
The point of the comment
Whether he is accurate or not with the deep ball does not matter to me. THE FACT that he can air it out is what is important. It will make DC’s take notice and keep defenses from playing to close to the box. One or two deep passes a game will keep the defense honest. His accuracy will improve over time. Right now, I will take he can “overthrow” a speedy receiver. :)
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
It was only 50 yards
Kyle has another 10 to 15 yards in the tank.
And he overthrew him by inches
It wasn’t that inaccurate.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Guys guys guys
I don’t think either of them are cute. ^^
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 10, 2009 2:19 AM MDT up reply actions
for what it's worth
Jay Cutler DOES have a stronger arm, but he has never been one to throw the deep ball particularly well either. watching Cutler highlights is more like watching Brandon Marshall highlights, adjusting to make the catch in heavy traffic
someone please prove me wrong, but I can’t think of any instance where Jay has been proficient at throwing the deep ball. he can throw it on a rope, off his back foot, but he also needs to work on his accuracy downfield (IMHO)
no hate, anecdotal observation
You are right. Which is why I think we made out like a bandit!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on May 4, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree as well...
I was watching an Eddie Royal highlight clip the other day and it struck me how many throws were way off target. There were a couple throws just in the 4-5 minute clip that would have been touchdowns had the ball not been completely off target. One that comes to mind was a catch along the goal line (I want to say it was against Cleveland, but I’m not sure) where Eddie had beaten his man and was open going to the post, but the ball was short and to the sideline. That meant that instead of an easy TD, Eddie had to make a diving/sliding grab to get a 1st and goal at the 2…
It’s funny how time and events change your perspective, though, so I would say Cutler probably wasn’t as bad as we now think he was; just as he wasn’t the second coming of Elway like some of us thought during the season. It’s nice to see that McDaniels seems to be rather level-headed, since that will hopefully prevent some of the favoritism that Shanahan was guilty of the last few years. I love Shanahan as much as the next guy, but I think we were due for a fresh perspective – which is something that McDaniels provides in spades.
And Eddie Royal highlights, too
like the 93-yard TD against Cleveland. Even though the corner was beaten badly on the slant and go, the pass was so badly underthrown he’d have been able to make a play on the ball if Eddie hadn’t fooled him a second time (as noted by SlowWhiteGuy‘s keen eye). Rather than waiting for the ball, which might have resulted in a pick, Eddie kept going full speed, slightly to the left of the ball’s trajectory, then cut sharply to his right at the last instant and plucked it out of the air. The corner, having been fooled about the ball’s actual trajectory, got caught up in the air. The play that ignited the rally that beat Cleveland was due to two brilliant plays by Eddie Royal on the same play. Thanks to SlowWhiteGuy for seeing and sharing this.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
I could live to be 100000 years old
and never tire of watching Eddie make that play. I have to pinch myself sometimes when I realize he was only a rook last year.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 4, 2009 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully in the next 100000 years...
Eddie will make enough plays just as good that that one play might get tiresome…
Time to galvanize
While you're pinching yourself consider this
He’s going to get better. The subtleties of how he does it will be hard for the average fan to see, but he’ll be even better at getting open. I think he’ll be the best receiver in the league within two or three years, if not sooner.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
+1
I’m very excited about Royal’s potential. I love Marshall as our possession receiver, but I think Royal will be just as important and an even more dangerous weapon because of his skills to get open and run good routes.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
I like the receivers that McD brought to camp
I read one person complaining because our draft pick, Kenny McKinley, might project best a a slot receiver. Perhaps he will, but since Stokes is one concussion away from retirement (and you concuss more easily with each – he’s over 12 (at least, he said, which means that he either isn’t counting or can’t remember) and won’t be with us forever. Nice that we’re looking at positions before they are vacant. Adding some new legs to Marshall and Royal, as well as Scheffler who is a huge play receiver (I love D Graham, and look forward to what Quinn can offer us), we look like a team that finally has the O line, QB, receivers and running game to do steady damage and to put the ball in the endzone. Nice change.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
and the play calling! :-)
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 5, 2009 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought
this might bring some positive energy to this place. Sorry Diviesti, didn’t mean to steal your thunder. I had no idea that you had mentioned this, but I thought everyone should be aware of it since some of the members don’t check out the MSM, but rely heavily on NYC to highlight their day. If you see any thing that comes up later in the day like this did for me, please post the link in the HorseTracks to help benefit this family. Thanks for the Kudos everyone.
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
Our coach is an idiot.
Sure, you need accuracy, but it’s dumb to limit yourself with a QB who can’t throw deep. It’s gonna be fun to watch him fail.
Not limited
Orton and Simms are both NFL QBs for a reason, they can throw the ball. Watching McD fail will be fun?? If he fails it means the Broncos fail …. I cannot imagine that being fun to watch at all :(
Go support the Bears then!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on May 4, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Rocko....I always appreciate the insight that you bring on the Bears and Orton...nice job mate!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on May 4, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Boydy!
The this was the first time McDaniels didn’t bring up the QB competition in some form. Should we read anything in to that?
Thats a good point.....but you dont know what context his quote was said in...seems super early for the competition to be over dont you think?
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
Honestly
I don’t believe there really is a competition.
agreed
I would be genuinely surprised if Simms starts. Nothing against Chris -I just think Orton is more primed for it.
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 5, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
You want him
To fail? You’re actually routing for it? Are you a broncos fan at all? Are you sure you’re not talking about Michael Vick, or Philip Rivers? I’m sure that’s it, you must be on the wrong thread, hehe.
by 3RingsHeProbablyKnowsSomething on May 4, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
You are a Broncos fan rooting for the coach to fail?
I’m sorry but those just don’t go together in the same sentence for me. You aren’t a Broncos fan if you root for your players and coaches to fail.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers down 1-0
Preach it weazel
cuz you are so correct.
13-3 baby!!!!
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
by Brian Shrout on May 4, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Ditto 3Rings question
You’re really rooting for Denver to fail?
You should check out some of the tape of Orton accurately completing passes down field. The fact that the offensive coaching strategy in Chicago rarely called deep passes doesn’t mean that Orton was incapable of throwing them and completing them.
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
by Brian Shrout on May 4, 2009 11:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Who are you
and what have you done with my real grandpa??
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on May 4, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
by Brian Shrout on May 4, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I hear that QB in Oakland has quite the arm on him
And they just picked up a WR with mad speed! Why don’t you go root for the Raiders, grandpa…
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on May 5, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions
The deep threat, a must need or is it a myth?
You hear it all the time, that quarter back has a rag arm, or this quarter back can’t throw more than 40 yards. I wonder what percentage of all the passes thrown last year were over 40 yards? If someone with all the stats could post something like that it would probably show that the % of passes over 40 yds was 3-4 %. If that is true, then it would put this to rest. Accuracy and ball speed is the most important. 13-3 Baby!!!
we NEVER stretched the field last season
so these knocks on Orton’s arm strength are completely unwarranted. even with Jay Cutler, we threw that stupid bubble slot screen most of the time
One of the all-time greats
Joe Montana rarely threw the ball over 40 yards in the air. Most of his big plays were slants or post patterns.
Joe was the MAN
Montana graduated from Notre Dame in 1979. Although the NFL Combine was not formed until 1982, NFL scouts still evaluated potential draftees through the use of combines in 1979. Candidates were rated in a number of categories on a scale of one to nine, with one being the worst mark and nine being the best mark.The categories they used were contingent on the position that the athlete played.
Despite his performance on the field, Montana was not rated highly by most scouts. At one combine, Montana rated out as six-and-a-half overall with a six in arm strength, used to judge how hard and how far a prospect could throw the ball. By comparison, Jack Thompson of Washington State University rated an eight, the highest grade amongst eligible quarterbacks. In the 1979 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers selected Montana in the third round with the 82nd overall pick. Joe had to earn every inch in his early collegiate and NFL careers. His biography in wikipedia is inspiring.
by rocko1 on May 4, 2009 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
Joe couldn’t even carry #7s lunchbox. Yes he has 4 rings, and yes that IS enough to rate a HoF Bust, but THE greatest EVER QB is John Elway Period!!!
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
Difference between Joe and John
Elway came to the league with super human ability – a half back with a cannon for an arm. He won many games primarily on his own will power and ability – he won three AFC championships that way. In terms of raw tallent he could not be touched in a hundred years. Montana did not have the physical talents, he was fortunate enough to fall into a system that really maximized his ability as a quick thinking feild marshal. Elway did not get to wear the ring until his physical ability declined – which left him only twice as good as anyone else – and the wiz kid Shanahan put the other pieces in place and made him a feild marshal with a cannon for an arm. They have one interesting thing in common besides the rings – poor old Steve DeBerg – not a bad quarterback at all!
wow
and here i thought it was that they just had different names and played for different teams.
;-p
I followed John through his entire career (which makes me feel really old sometimes) and hated montana for what he kept doing to us.
John is the best.
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
by Brian Shrout on May 4, 2009 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Joe was lucky in a way
He started out #7 on the depth charts his freshman year at ND. Many things(injuries, coaching changes) had to fall into place before he got a shot on the field. As a pro, he was fortunate to be drafted by Bill Walsch. I wonder where his career would have gone if he was drafted by the Bears in 1979.
I see some early career similarities between Montana and Orton. Good but not great physical skills. Having to work for every inch of success and not being handed anything. Not being labeled a “franchise QB out of college”.
McDaniels is on the money!
The more Josh McDaniels opens up through the media, the more impressed I’ve become. He’s right on the money in regards to a QB’s arm strength. Comparisons to Cutler’s arm are meaningless at this point. I concede that Jay has a very strong arm. Stronger than the Manning’s, Brady, Roethelsberger, and Brees. Ok, what does that prove? Absolutely nothing! What does his arm strength have to do with winning? Absolutely nothing!
Last year, after the Bears played the Saints in December, Joe Tiller(Purdue coach) was asked to compare Orton and Brees during their careers at Purdue. Joe stated " Orton had the stronger arm and Brees had better accurracy". I have never heard anyone criticize Drew Brees’s arm and he is extremely accurate. Orton faced the Saints twice while with the Bears. The Bears won both games. In each game, Orton’s QB rating was higher than Brees.
As a Purdue grad and resident of Chicago, I’ve watched many of Orton’s games. During his career at Purdue, Kyle routinely carved up every defense in the Big 10. He was simply great in Tiller’s spread offense. With the Bears, even though he started in 14 games as a rookie in 2005, he was never given a chance to compete until 2008. It has been so long since the Bears had a good QB with potential, that they wouldn’t recognize one if he started 15 games for them in 2008.
Kyle is extremely competitive, a leader, has a good arm, is very intelligent, and field smart. I will dare to say he is a Brady or Manning in the making and will flourish under Josh McDaniels’ coaching.
by rocko1 on May 4, 2009 6:33 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Well said
He also came out of Purdue with certain problems in his mechanics and his predraft scouting noted that he needed time to develop before starting. Chicago took him in the 4th round and had him starting by midseason. Of course he struggled. I love Chi, but they’ve never been mistaken for a great QB coaching team.
If you look at Orton’s development on a year by year basis he’s done very well. With the kind of QB coaching that McD and McC can provide I believe, from what I’ve seen, that he can be very good.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
That is totally on point.
It is all about moving the chains. Every head coach is going to be scrutinized especially a first-time HC.
Rocko, your first sentence is exactly how I feel. I am always excited for every season to begin, and this one especially because I want to see what McDaniels brings to the table first hand.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers vs. Rockets.....Game 1 Monday.
it's all about the YAC
and BMarsh knows how get some YAC.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
I'm telling ya..............Eddie is going to be a special part of this system...'nufff said,, !!
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
He and Orton are going to make an epic team
and Eddie, espcially with Orton thowing him the ball (better than if he had Cutler), is soon going to be the best receiver in the league. I just hope we don’t have to trade Marshall because of it. (But if we do I hope we get a bundle.)
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
spock--I have a concern about Marshall--his hip.
I’m not a Doc like Bear but I can’t think of any player that fully recovers. Bo Jackson comes to mind. Possibly most exciting player ever (in a moments notice) turned near invalid.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Thanx man, great read.
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
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