My First Post: Fortified With Stat Nerdery
<!--Introduction of myself, what I hope to write, then some statistical-mystical ramblings to follow-->
My name is CSStieber. I've trolled these MHR waters since the Buffalo Bills game last year (yeah, I froze my tukhus off at the game).
This was the MHR first post I read. hoosierteacher FTW
While I've only been ghosting around MHR for 5 months, I've been a dedicated sports-interwebs reader for going on 6 years. (I only write this in order to explain what will most assuredly influence my future posts) As a University of Michigan alum ('07), my home and hearth lay at MGoBlog.com, one of the premier college-sports blogs anywhere. EDSBS.com is where I also go for CFB fixes. As an inveterate NBA-nerdnik, FreeDarko.com has influenced me immeasurably in what I consider great sportswriting, where a fan tries, often in vain, to express in words the metaphysical connections between a his euphoria and it's relationship to his team's performances. I also dig FreeDarko's random-but-strangely-beautiful photos interspersed into the posts. So look for hints of all those sites in what I write.
Oh, yeah: Bronco bonafides: I graduated from a CoSprings high school in 2003, where the highlight in my sportsfollowing life up to that point was doing bumper cars with Eddie McCaffrey at Elitch's. I still think that Mike Anderson is underrated, both as a football player and as a hero for serving his country. I challenge any sportsfan with a soul to actually state that the Lambeau Leap is even in the same league as the Mile High Salute. Although a vegetarian, I would break my rules if it meant I could eat with John Elway at his steakhouse.
Okay, if anyone's still reading, follow me into the Mathemagical Land...
It took so long for me to find MHR because for years I thought that the NFL fan community was stupid. Yeah, I was a Bronco fan, but my impression of the league was that a math-minded internet nerd like myself was in the minority in NFL circles, while the collegiate sports community was much more likely to have people who thought like me. I mean, I LOVE the Barrel Man, but I just didn't see him enjoying regression analysis and efficiency statistics.
So when I finally took the plunge last fall, imagine how elated I was to find insightful and mature analysis of the professional game, for my own team no less!
In that vein, I'm gonna throw out some of the stats from both the Broncos and the Patriots and thoughts that came to mind as I looked at them. But first, I present to you CSStieber's Ironclad Rules of Predictive Statistical Analysis (*WARNING*: not really that Ironclad).
1. Ignore Gross Stats, For They Are Often A Result of Success Rather Than A Cause. Yeah, not that earth-shattering, I know. In fact, the Divining the McDaniels Way Series covered this quite well. They even touched on some of the stats I like to use, but chose not to combine the inputs into my preferred conglomerate stats. The fact remains, however, that many times we as fans will see a gross-number stat (oftentimes presented unthinkingly by MSM TV analysts) and be impressed by its size. Not us at MHR, however. Say it with me: EFFICIENCY HAS THE HIGHEST CORRELATIVE RELATIONSHIP TO SUCCESS. Okay, that's a mouthful. I'll take just EFFICIENCY IS KING.
What do I mean by efficiency? Simple: if we were to run one single play facing an average opponent in an average gameplay scenario, what would be the standardized expected result? It's much easier to complete an 8 yard draw play on 3rd and 27. It's much easier to get an interception on a Hail Mary at the end of the half. We don't want those numbers to represent the proficiency an offense, defense, or individual. It doesn't matter if a quarterback throws for 3500 yards if he's throwing the ball 60 times a game. A giraffe could throw for that many yards if given enough opportunities. See: Drew Bledsoe. (I kid, I kid...)
Pertinent examples? Pertinent examples:
In 2003, the Notorious JMcD was a defensive backs assistant with the New England Patriots. Here's the vitals from that year for NE's defensive secondary (all stats from the ever-valuable Pro Football Reference):
328 completions on 618 attempts. 3232 yards given up, with 11 TD's and 29 INT's.
The 29 INT's led the league that year. Now, if we were to ignore Rule #1 of CIRPSA (above), we'd think, "Dang, that's impressive!" BUT WE WON'T. If you look, you'll see that the Patriots faced 618 pass attempts in 2003, which also led the league by an astounding 29 more attempts than second place. If we step away from the numbers and remember 2003, that would seem to ring true. The Patriots were 14-2 that year, so that means that many times during the season a team would fall behind to the Pats, which leads to more pass attempts (teams can rarely come from behind by using the time-consuming running game). Subsequently, the Patriots' gross stats would be inflated by the increased number of opportunities to pick off a pass.
Now, if we parse apart the numbers with some basic math, however, we can see just how effective the Pats' pass defense was on any single play. The nerd-standard numbers for efficiency, by my lights, are as follows: Interception Percentage (Int%), Adjusted Yards per Attempt (AY/A), and Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANY/A).
Int% is derived from the simple equation of: INTERCEPTIONS/PASS ATTEMPTS. It's a good way to see how, on any given throw, what are the odds that the defense intercepts it. In this category, the 2003 Patriots were tied for second over all at 4.7% For comparison, that year's Broncos were dead last in the league at 1.8% That means that, on any given pass play, the Patriots were 250% more likely to intercept the ball. Yeeikes.
For AY/A, we can devise an equation that takes into account both passes completed and intercepted. For example, if there was a quarterback who equally threw touchdowns and interceptions-returned-for-a-touchdowns, he'd be a value neutral player on the field (statistically speaking, that is. Since nearly every QB brings some positive value to the field, one that brought 0 would be an abomination by comparison). In 2008, while the Broncos were 3rd and the Patriots were 12th in gross (boo!) yards, if you apply multipliers to the variables of touchdowns and interceptions, you can find better stats. I like PFR's formula of (PassYards + TD's*10 + INT's*45)/(PassAttempts), but we can quibble over the specifics if we want. The AY/A for the Broncos in 2008 was 10th best, followed immediately by the Patriots in 11th, with only .2 yards between them. I think this case proves just how damaging Jay Cutler's 7 extra INT's were last year: they nearly completely negated the 900-yards and 4 more touchdowns worth of output from the Broncos' offense. Yikes, Part Deux.
(Oh, the Pats 2003 defense stifled opponents to a league-leading mere 3.3 AY/A. Sweet Fancy Moses.)
Finally, we can further tweak the AY/A by including the effect of sacks into the passing game, creating the ANY/A equation of (PassYards - SackYards + TDs*10 - INTs*45)/(PassAttempts + Sacks). This is, as far as I can tell, the single best stat to show that, when the offense drops back for a passing play, just what the average result will be. If a team defense has a great pass-rush or some coverage sacks, this statistic can count that into total defensive efficiency.
To briefly compare, again, the 2008 Broncos and Patriots: in ANY/A, they were 8th and 13th respectively. (Another brief aside: the '08 Chargers were out of sight in terms of offensive efficiency, finishing well ahead of second place in both AY/A and ANY/A).
As for the 2003 Patriots' D (which was partly guided by Notorious JMcD): They tied for the league lead with the Baltimore Ravens, allowing a paltry 2.7 adjusted net yards per pass attempt. That means that the opposing offense could throw the ball on three straight plays and still face a 4 & 1.9! Yikes the Third.
Okay, thanks to you fearless few who've stuck around through this first post. I'm cutting it off here, but I promise to come back with more CIRPSA's, some less math-centric posts, and some interpretations I've made when looking over the performance of JMcD's past units.
I look forward to really diving into this disease we all call Bronco Madness, and hope to carry my weight round these here parts. Also, feel free to be as critical of my reasoning, research, body odor, whatever: any input is greatly appreciated.
Oaklandium delenda est!
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Welcome to MHR
there is a lot to process in that so don’t feel bad if you have few comments. You will fit in well with our community there are many “brains” here (I am not one of them). Good stuff and rec’d I hope to see more production (TD/FG) than yards. Actually I would love to start every series on offense north of the 50!
http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
Wow
Thats impressive your smart enough to figure these formulas out, and take the time to do the math for the rest of us. Just one side note, how do equate for when Ed Hochuli is reffing a game, can he change our ANY/A just by being there.
But I thought McDaniels Was Only An Offensive Guy and All Our Problems Would Be Solved if Bowlen Had Hired Rex Ryan?
I kid, I kid. Great first post. My number-crunching here has been limited by my weak understanding of how these advanced NFL stats work. I really appreciate your taking the time to explain them like this. It really helps to illuminate the vision behind what the Broncos are doing with their over-the-top emphasis on the secondary.
As an aside, I do not remember any of the great Patriots Ds as having particularly oppressive pass rushes. But I could be mistaken.
Great post, and rec’d. I for one would be thrilled if you were willing to continue the good work of teaching us about these sophisticated metrics.
Good stuff man...keep it up
Bring the heat…some of us dig the numbers like this.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Good One Diviesti
CCS, this is some serious fecal matter. I am very impressed with your Mathemagical Science. Welcome to the community. it looks like you’ll be an asset to the site.
Thanks for the lesson!
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
This is great, but...
I only want to hear stats that keep me in La-La-Land. No bad stats for the Broncos. Can you arrange that? ; )
Seriously, I loved it. Great first post. Great any post. Keep it up. Stats like this give me a woody.
Welcome to MHR
And awesome article. Rec’d0000000000000
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
Great post
So I believe I will no longer be using this site after reading this I thought I knew at least a little about football now I’m question that!…….Oh j/k about not using the site anymore This is the first place I check when I get online everyday!!
"Look, all I want to do is win"-Josh McDaniels
"Kyle’s arm,was strong enough to overthrow Eddie Royal today."- Josh McDaniels
Knowshon Moreno NFL OROY!!
Robert Ayers NFL DROY!!
by Rockymountainway on May 5, 2009 2:19 PM MDT reply actions
Welcome, Great first post, and rec'd
nothing wrong with being a math nerd type; I’m married to one and she loves football too.
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
Excellent post.
I sure hope that McD can mold our defense into the same pass intercepting, yards limiting machine that NE seemed to have in ‘03. Actually I just want a defense that will occasionally stop the oppositions offense. I hate holding my breath every time our defense is on the field, with that horrible feeling in the pit of stomach; hoping, just hoping that they won’t give up a TD. I think I hate Slowik with every fibre of my being for putting me (us, the team?) through that agony every week.
Gosh darnit, I’m ready to lose some games 10-7, instead of 41-3!! ;)
Rec’d
We don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks. - Calvin
Good Defense
Is so fun to watch and so sad to know you don’t have. I stopped even hoping for our Defense to actually stop teams last year and was just praying that we could run time off the clock or conversely, at the end of the game, not.
I feel good about the coaches we have brought in though.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
+1000
Last year’s D was so awful. We didn’t intimidate anyone and I’m sure some teams seriously laughed when they reviewed tape. UGH…It really is good to know that there is no where to go but up. There is NO WAY we will be a worse D than last year and that is with us completely changing our scheme (which never means a good D the next year)
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Nice job! Rec'd!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
Thanks for the kind words, team.
I’m glad to offer any part of my math-addled brain to The Cause.
I’m gonna work on posting a few more of these over the coming days. Next up: 2004 NE quarterback play, when JMcD was the qb’s coach. Hopefully we can project out some of the check-down and ball-distribution tendencies he likes to see in his offenses.
Thanks again for the compliments.
"I am but too conscious of the fact that we are born in an age when only the dull are treated seriously, and I live in terror of not being misunderstood."
Geat job, CSS, I'm sort of a nerd too...does 'red neck hippie' count?
That’s intriguing in that McDaniels has worked both sides of the ball. And thanks for bringing Drew Bledsoe’s name up, I’ve got eleven of his rookie cards.LOL. 13-3 Baby!!!
+1
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on May 5, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I lookr forward to lots of charts.
While I loved the read of the post… I for one would like to see some of the data outputs from your analysis. I would love to see teams ranked by AY/A and ANY/A.
Great stuff.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on May 5, 2009 3:49 PM MDT reply actions
Good point, YellowStoneBronco
I can just take screenshots of the charts, but I’d like to put them in the SBNation-preferred format if possible. Does anyone know if I should just make HTML charts instead, or would posted JPEGs be optimal for viewers?
Still gettin the kinks out, I suppose…
"I am but too conscious of the fact that we are born in an age when only the dull are treated seriously, and I live in terror of not being misunderstood."
The formating is tough...
Unless you are a programmer and even then SB Nation Blogs still have trouble. I would suggest jpegs unless one of the Site Staff wants to weigh in.
I think you stuff is great. Keep it up. We like analysis.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on May 5, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
the html loads faster for everbody
consider that to be “the msot good to the most people”.
But don’t let that idea stand in the way of awesomeness. I will suffer mightily for the promise of more Broncos awesomeness, so this is one guy who would love a nice sharp jpeg. gifs look great too.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on May 6, 2009 1:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Me like...
Keep it coming,
"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam
by lovewatchinthegame on May 5, 2009 4:19 PM MDT reply actions
Rec'd
Already looking forward to the next output. Nice first post, CSS!
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
Expected W/L
I went out to the referenced site to give it a look/see. I found the stat Expected W/L. In tracking down the definition and associated blogs, from what I understood, this stat should be able to predict N+1 years based on last year’s stats. That is, 2009 expected record!
Haven’t the time to try to figure out how to apply this yet, nor, perhaps, the smarts (although I was a Stats major in college…so should be able to given time).
Anyone up for it? Would love to see what it predicts.
Very Nice!! however
I give it 10 rec’s however you used 987 words giving you an efficiency ratio of 9.87 whereas HT has an efficiency ratio of 5.23 but not bad for a rookie…. JK that was an awesome post regardless of first last or # of words !!!
As in Football So In Life
I LOVE the MATH, CSS!
So don’t ever feel like you need to curb it. This is some of the best analysis I’ve seen on the site. Great work!!!! Highly rec’d.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
LOL--Quite a first post CS Stieber....
The subtle humor you entangle in the web of your stats is fun to read. Welcome to MHR !! I’m not sure if you realize this but ‘body odor’ is rarely an issue in this format.
I really like you reminding our readers that McD was a defensive coach before he took over the offense—this may bode well for our team’s future—sooner rather than later.
Let me introduce myself. I am MHR’s ‘Village Idiot.’ Although I look at and occasionally consider stats, during Pre-Season I have a simple rule:
I don’t let Facts, Stats, or Reality get in the way of my enthusiasm !!!
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Playoffs here we come !!! Go Broncos !!!
I look forward to future Posts !!!
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
you preach it mike
there’s lots more of us idiots lining up behind you.
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and hope you come down somewhere between the two.
by Brian Shrout on May 5, 2009 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
What year was the mile high salute first used?
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno is the boss!
By Terrel Davis
1996 I believe. I think it was his rookie year. Is that his rookie year?
"Now we have them where we want them"
-Kieth Bishop - On the Denver 2 yard line, Cleveland Ohio, 1987
Thanks.
I think he was drafted in the ’95 draft
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno is the boss!
fantastic post, engaging writing
and you smell absolutely phenomenal.
Welcome aboard!
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on May 6, 2009 1:06 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Great post by the way
"Now we have them where we want them"
-Kieth Bishop - On the Denver 2 yard line, Cleveland Ohio, 1987
Exemplary post
Welcome aboard, CSS – that is some fine writing, excellent use of stats, and even better explanations. Happy to have you here, you will clearly be an asset to our community.
Glad you appreciated our Divining series, and I agree with everything you wrote. Everyone fell in love with Cutler’s TDs and passing yards, but nobody bothered to think that 25 TDs wasn’t so good when you chuck it 616 times. By comparison, Tom Brady notched 50 TDs on 578 attempts in 2007. Oops. Okay, I digress.
PFR is beyond valuable, as you say – I’m on there multiple times daily, without exception. You are raising the bar here, and I will have to sharpen up or nobody will read my work anymore! I love your citation of Adjusted Net Yards, and you do a terrific job of explaining what it means. I hope everyone on MHR reads this splendid post of yours, it is most certainly deserving! Rec’d, of course!
Great stuff.
Thanks for the stats. That was awesome.
by broncointheville on May 6, 2009 12:39 PM MDT reply actions
Great stats Analysis
CSS this is really good stuff. Looking forward to more of your statistical meanderings…..
I am not a nerd (at least that is what I keep telling myself), but really love this stuff.
by bchiper on May 6, 2009 12:44 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
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(That’s nerd for, “freaking awesome post, well done and welcome to MHR”)
Seriously, as a six sigma/lean guy myself, I love, love the application of stats to get an objective view of the game vs. the group-think “Hey! Our D-line sucks!”
Appreciate it & welcome!
Nice first post!
you will find you are in good company here. Lot’s of stat freaks.
Have you checked out Advanced NFL Stats or
Cold Hard Football Facts

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