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Horse Tracks 6/13/09

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DP - Broncos' Marshall misses workout, meets with Bowlen
According to Klis, BMarsh met with Pat Bowlen and then left Dove Valley with some packed boxes, whatever that means. Apparently Marshall is unwilling to be treated by Denver's medical staff while his contract situation is unaddressed. Just keep in mind folks - we have very few facts here, and perhaps none from Marshall's meeting with Bowlen.

DB - Mini-Camp: McDaniels - Broncos TV
Josh McDaniels addresses the Brandon Marshall situation, saying the Broncos will play offense with or without BMarsh. McDaniels says Marshall is doing everything the organization is asking of him in his rehab from hip surgery. Chris Kuper has been excused from minicamp to get married, and the Broncos practiced dealing with crowd noise by blasting a staffers' iPod.

DB - Installed and Operating - Broncos TV
Chris Hall reports from minicamp on the progress of Kyle Orton and Chris Simms.

DB - 'Tip of the Iceberg'
Gray Caldwell wrapped up the day's practice and gets a quote from newly-signed (seventh-round pick) center Blake Schlueter.

DB - A Different Beat
Zach Eisendrath offers notes from practice.

DP - McDaniels in no hurry to name No. 1 QB
LJones' notes from minicamp.

WIS - 2009 AFC West Predictions From WhatIfSports.com
WhatIfSports doesn't have the rosiest of predictions for the Broncos' 2009 season.

DB - Belize it, camp right around the corner!!
A brief blog entry from Mark Cooper

Star-divide

KCS - Former Chiefs QB Trent Green retires

SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : The Vick question
David White doesn't see Michael Vick rolling into Jokeland.

NFL - As expected, Falcons officially end Vick era in Atlanta

ESPN - Source: Minnesota Vikings staff members to observe Brett Favre

NFL - Redskins cut veteran Thrash, who may retire due to injury
There goes the other half of Tom Jackson's "Stinkston and Trash" duo...

NFL - Browns adjusting to disciplinarian Mangini in offseason of change

SI - Underappreciated Donovan McNabb doesn't get the love he deserves - Ross Tucker

FOX - McNabb has earned every penny from Eagles - Alex Marvez

Y! - Brady comeback as much mental as physical
Jason Cole considers how Tom Brady will face the fear of getting hit and injured again.

SI - Can Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco avoid the sophomore slump? - Damon Hack

Y! - 'Strongman Hill' puts columnist to the test
Mike Silver tests himself out on the hill which Jerry Rice made famous, as part of his Friday column.

WIS - 2009 AFC North Predictions From WhatIfSports.com

NFLN - NFL Videos: 32 in 32: Cleveland Browns

NFP - Diner Morning News: The End Of OTAs

NFP - The $anchez Deal - Andrew Brandt

NFP - 2009 NFP Scouting Series: California

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Thanks for the Horse Tracks, NYC.

Happy weekend folks! And for you metalheads out there, happy Download Fest, too.

"Felis silvestris cactus JB, 2009."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 13, 2009 8:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Nyc

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on Jun 13, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks as always

for the links!

(Btw, no criticism of linking to them, but what is… What If Sports, and why should we care about their AFC West predictions? Should I be worried? ;-) )

by underdog on Jun 13, 2009 10:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question...

I found it through FOX, as it’s connected to MSN. I think they do simulations and show what their results say…not sure if it’s in any way relevant…

I was actually thinking about this during the yoga class my wife and I were just at. Wow, that is a problem…haha

by Douglas A. Lee on Jun 13, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

About Whatifsports....

Did you read this on the Chiefs from that article. I have a question. Do they think Pioli is actually the coach as well as the GM? Seriously, do they?

Biggest Strength: Scott Pioli, GM – We should find out rather quickly just how much Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli meant to each other in New England. I am a believer in Pioli for the simple reason that his resume includes the Patriots’ success, which means that veteran players want to play for him and young players will listen to him. Particularly on defense, which is switching to the 3-4 from the 4-3, the Chiefs already look vastly improved under Pioli. An upgrade has also been made at quarterback. Kansas City appears to be in good hands. The Chiefs are not a playoff team yet, but they may not be too far away.

The love for Pioli is palpable and cannot be fully deserved by any GM who spends, or should spend, ZERO time on the field and in meetings.

This kind of puts the rest of it in perspective and I am always suspect of writers that are more concerned with fantasy numbers than anything else.

by AlanC on Jun 13, 2009 10:46 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh and I forgot the other gem..

I forgot about this remark too….. can we all say nyperbole?

the Chiefs already look vastly improved under Pioli. An upgrade has also been made at quarterback. Kansas City appears to be in good hands

Doesn’t Haley and the staff and the players have anything to do with his predictions? Is it Pioli’s coaching, play calling or game planning that he finds has made all the difference … so far?

Thanks for the humor this early in the day.

by AlanC on Jun 13, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how they don't have us favored at home agasint the Chiefs or the raiders

and how they say that we’re only favored in 2 games in a schedule with “only” 7 playoff teams. So our schedule is easy now? Good, because it was making me worried.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 13, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their little matchup thing is retarded as well.

It told me that the 1986, 1987, and 1989 Broncos would almost always beat the 1998 Broncos (Even when 1998 was set as the “home” team) and that the ’97 Packers would beat the ’97 Broncos in San Diego by an average score of 45-17.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 13, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

QB is what really matters

Good QBs (Like Cassel appears to be) are usually in the playoffs.

That said, Cassel has gotta prove he can play outside of the NE system.

And, yes, that article does make it appear as if Pioli is the coach. He’s on the field all the time and reportedly works out with all the players and is always around at practices, etc. But he’s not the coach (as far as I know :))

by Joel Thorman on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically answers my question

No, we shouldn’t care about What If’s opinion. :-)

by underdog on Jun 13, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you think?

Should we go out and get a Pioli? Do they sell them at 31 Flavors, or do you have to go to a fancy Italian Restaurant to get one.

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on Jun 13, 2009 11:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clemenza says

“Leave the gun. Take the pioli.”

by underdog on Jun 13, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dawkins wasn't even mentioned as a significant addition

No wonder we performed so badly: we’re playing with only 10 men on defense!

by JeffG on Jun 13, 2009 11:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA!..nice call!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Jun 13, 2009 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great timing by LJones & the DP

They run that story the morning of the day McD announces the starter.

Sometimes when I reflect on all the beer I drink, I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. I think, "It is better to drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver." - Babe Ruth

by c_style on Jun 13, 2009 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

dashiell

umm yes you should be worried

broncos lost one of the best and youngest qb in the league

and ortons starting

that should keep you from sleeping

let alone the brandon marshall situation and the lack of moves to transition from a 4-3

to a 3-4 defense

 

by andrew33 on Jun 13, 2009 8:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

These have been discussed and answered.

As for the Chiefs, I think they should focus on catching up to Denver and SD and staying ahead of Oakland. For all of the controversy in Denver, KC hasn’t mangaged to be a division threat for some time.

We’re sleeping fine over here.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 14, 2009 4:14 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said I wasn't worried about the opinion

of one poorly written article, not that I have no worries about the Broncos at all. :-)

Their defense will be a LOT better. That it will be better is not going out on a limb but I think it’s going to be better. Their running game will be a lot better. Their OL is intact. Yes they are downgrading a lot at QB, but very possibly less than people think. What worries me most is their schedule, frankly. So I have worries, but I’m not going to lose sleep over them.

by underdog on Jun 14, 2009 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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