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Madden 10 Ratings - All Player Ratings including Broncos

 

Hi Chaps

Below is a list of the entire Bronco roster as per Madden 10. This has all come out from the Madden community. EA have been trying to keep a bit of a lid on it - pereferring to release the ratings over a period of time, but various dedicated bloggers have made it difficult for them.

Obviously this is subject to change before release  , but it's indicative of where the EA developers see our squad and it's unlikey they are going to be swayed by emails asking for certain players to be upgraded. So I think we have to accpet that if you want to play Madden this year you are going to be playing with what can only be described as a mediocre Denver squad.

I predict a lot of you guys are not going to be happy with their evaluation of our talent! Overall we have the 4th worst squad on average in the league according to EA. Which is a bit silly. But at the end of the day it's their opinion and it's up to the Broncos to earn their respect next season.

That said there are some shocking ratings - namely Doom & Larsen on defense, Ryan Harris on offense - all three have been robbed. I would also question Kuper & Sheffler's rather average ratings. I would possibly argue however that they have possibly overrated Marshall, Dawkins (sorry!) and A. Davis.  But that's a subject for  seperate and rather more detailed post I am planning on the DVOA ratings once the Football Outsiders Almanac comes out.

Bear in mind the player ratings are more spread out then previous incantations of Madden, to emphasise the difference beytween the elite and the average players.

I'll need to sit down with all 32 rosters to analyse exactly how our players have got on. That might take some work and I thought some of you might be interested in seeing it all now.

So for those of you that play Madden and care about these ratings then let the debate begin!

 

Denver Broncos

 

Position Name OVR
QB K. Orton 74
QB C. Simms 66
QB T. Brandstater 60
RB K. Moreno 81
RB C. Burkhalter 78
RB JJ Arrington 73
RB L. Jordan 66
FB P. Hillis 84
WR B. Marshall 92
WR E. Royal 82
WR J. Gaffney 74
WR B. Stokley 71
WR C. Jackson 56
TE D. Graham 83
TE T. Scheffler 79
TE R. Quinn 69
OL R. Clady 88
OL C. Wiegmann 87
OL B. Hamilton 81
OL C. Kuper 78
OL R. Harris 73
OL K. Lichtensteiger 71
OL S. Olsen 69
OL B. Gorin 68
OL T. Polumbus 67
OL P. Murray 63
OL L. Paxton 62
DL K. Peterson 72
DL M. Thomas 71
DL R. Fields 71
DL D. Reid 70
DL T. Crowder 66
DL E. Dumervil 65
DL M. Askew 64
DL N. Clemons 61
LB D.J. Williams 86
LB A. Davis 75
LB R. Ayers 74
LB B. Bailey 68
LB J. Moss 66
LB N. Greisen 65
LB S. Larsen 63
CB C. Bailey 96
CB A. Smith 76
CB A. Goodman 76
CB J. Bell 61
CB J. Williams 58
S B. Dawkins 92
S D. McBath 72
S R. Hill 72
S J. Barrett 62
S V. Fox 59
K M. Prater 58
P B. Kern 64

 

 

 



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heh

I’m still playing Madden 06 for PS2, because I don’t want to pony up for a new game until I get a new system. Anyway, I did a fantasy draft, and I have many players such as Orton, Dawkins, Hill, Goodman, David, etc. I will probably make a trade for Boss Bailey today after work, haha.

Madden is always a fun time, but I wouldn’t let it be indicative of any real football talent. Oddly enough, some player such as Davis and Hill are ranked lower in the 2006 version (even with Hill being a user-converted SS from CB).

by lolcopter on Jun 15, 2009 11:48 AM MDT reply actions  

they're ranked higher I mean

and “Davis” not David in the first paragraph. haha, I need to spell check before I post. typing way too fast…

by lolcopter on Jun 15, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

The EA developers have said don't try and compare ratings from previous years

They have really overhauled it – there are now a lot less "elite"players in the league.

And yes I’ m not saying the Madden ratings should be used to evaluate our squad. I think they have seriously jobbed us in a number of areas.

But it’s interesting I think to see our squad broken down this way I think.

by British Bronco on Jun 15, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Jun 15, 2009 11:54 AM MDT reply actions  

I rec'd this post so that more people would get the chance to read the letter to John F'n Madden

I could quote this article for the rest of my life, and never stop laughing!

“The only actions that separate point values of ignorance at this embarrassing level are things like using your own toothbrush to wipe your a%$. I basically edged out Rod by my lack of s*$t teeth.”

HA

"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway

by jibbons on Jun 15, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's pretty funny...

although I highly doubt it was written by Albright. Some good points though. A guy who has been in the league since ‘95 probably shouldn’t be the worst player in the game.

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Jun 15, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

That is hilarious!!!

A perfect balance to my incredulous reaction to some of those ratings. If I was Reynaldo Hill, Eddie Royal or about 15 other Broncos, I’d posse up with ‘Albright’….

I am an idiot walking a tightrope of fortune and fame
I am an acrobat swinging trapezes through circles of flame
If you've never stared off in the distance, then your life is a shame
and though I'll never forget your face,
sometimes i can't remember my name.
--Counting Crows, "Mrs. Potter's Lullaby"

by PredominantlyOrange on Jun 15, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

LMAO!

Thanks for the laugh so early in the day LOL…

This post was classic!

A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!!

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Jun 16, 2009 7:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll give them a pass on some of the defensive players (except Doom and Bailey in the 60's)

but that O-line is just ridiculous….do these guys even follow football?

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Jun 15, 2009 11:58 AM MDT reply actions  

Prater a 58?

Good thing it is virtually impossible to miss a FG from within 56 yards.

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Jun 15, 2009 12:12 PM MDT reply actions  

They have Hillis faster than Moreno...

Not sure about that…gun to my head I’m going with Moreno in a foot race on that one.

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Jun 15, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions  

Does Madden have a development feature like in NBA 2K7 (and probably other versions, too)?

Every month, you’re given ten points, which you can spend on training the players and increasing their stats.

It’s a pretty fun feature, especially when they give you a minute and a half to do a task and have to scramble in the last seconds to complete it. Actually, come to think of it, I have these “training” sessions to thank every time I need a clutch 3 from J.R. Smith or a critical rebound late in the game, because they do help with your shooting technique and timing (yes, there is technique in a videogame; when you play in Hall of Fame difficulty, you have to be aware of a player’s fatigue throughout a game – i.e. a shot that will go in early on will be an airball if you shoot it exactly the same in the 4th – and count on who’s defending him to not just let him score 50 points a game).

I wouldn’t mind having this feature to play around with in other sports games.

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 1:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Franchise Mode allows you to build up individual players

but I think all the newer Madden games adjust player/team ratings throughout the season, via the internet

by lolcopter on Jun 15, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eh, forgot to add...

These ratings aren’t too bad. Some are good, some are understandable, some are atrocious.

It’d be interesting to see how these change as time goes on. Could be an intriguing experiment in how “outsiders” view the team and its talent level.

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 1:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Overall we have the 4th worst squad on average in the league according to EA.

I would consider that too bad. Like others have mentioned, the rating system has changed so you can’t compare it to previous years. However, making us the 4th worst team based on average player score is inevitably a major drop from last season.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Jun 15, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Denver doesn’t ever seem to get any respect.

by somedumbgamer on Jun 15, 2009 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ooh.

And every time someone talks about Madden, I bite my lip, but I shall do so no longer!

NFL 2K5 > Every Madden game ever released

There, I said it.

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 1:51 PM MDT reply actions  

I was reading in Game Informer that Tiburon played the hell out of 2k5 because they are sick of the comparison and are incorporating many things form 2k…one of them being the halftime highlight show.

by somedumbgamer on Jun 15, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm not surprised.

EA Canada did the same thing with FIFA. They basically aped the PES games until they beat them at their own game (except for on the Wii).

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Everybody forget Madden.

And play Backbreaker with me!! It uses the same technology that made running over pedestrians a blast in GTAIV.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 15, 2009 2:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Can You...

run people over while wearing the cleats that you stole from them only moments before?

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 15, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't know about that..

but I do think that you can hijack the training vehicle while the other team’s injured players are being carted off.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

Here’s a few more trailers showing the gameplay. The thing I’m personally looking forward to is the full customization. Now my made-up Denver Wolves of my old Madden 05 days (before it stopped working-scratches) can dominate the American Football Association in all their HD glory!

The gameplay sounds astounding though. I’d recommend IGN’s hands-on demo, where they talk about the passing game and how it is incorporated. Definitely a very intriguing idea, and I love how you can actually go through progressions like an actual QB would do.

Also, has anyone else heard about Scribblenauts?! That game looks insane.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 15, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very intriguing indeed.

I love Forza (it actually happens to be the game I’m currently playing), so I certainly wouldn’t mind that comparison. The more customisation options, the better, personally.
And I love the QB mechanic, too; my only problem with the current camera positions is that you can’t see the wideouts that are off-screen, so you have to throw on faith that they’re actually in a position to catch it, so I do hope this sticks. Hopefully they can work out the kinks and polish the game off before shipping.

Haven’t heard of Scribblenauts until now, but I am going to keep my eye on it. It sort of reminds me of Crayon Physics Deluxe.

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have Heard About It

Probably have to get it for my wife and her DS.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 16, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Madden roster improvements

After seeing those ratings I think will have to cheat. A nice trick I have used for a long time is to sign the best free agents at the beginning of the year and then use them as trade bait. I also make sure to get a draft pick or two with each trade. I will then trade those for better picks…like 2 round 6 and a 7 for a 5.

by somedumbgamer on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM MDT reply actions  

haha, me too

in my fantasy draft I took Ed Reed, so I could use him as draft bait to snag D.J. and some draft picks later on

although Dawkins and Reed would have been a great safety tandem, LOL

by lolcopter on Jun 15, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Clady an 88!?!?!?!?!

screw madden

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoboy on Jun 15, 2009 3:19 PM MDT reply actions  

What a Joke

Doom was like a 88/89 last year to a 65. He should at least a 79. Also they need build in the DL/LB Label for players like Ried, Doom and Crowder, Ayers, Moss. Clady should at least be a 95 and Harris at least a 90. Kuper and Hamilton should also be higher. We had the best oline in football last year and they get ratings like this. There a a few other players that should be higher. These rating could change but even if they don’t i will still dominate with Broncos in Madden. Also if a player has a great year their stats always improve. I think i have Doom at like a 96 on the 09 version right now

by gnarlybroncodude on Jun 15, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions  

they brought down all the ratings, not just us.

There are very few elite madden players now.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,114 miles away.

by broncointheville on Jun 16, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

how are the

raiders rated overall better then us, whata joke

by gnarlybroncodude on Jun 15, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions  

haha yeah..i think that al davis is secretly a madden freak and drafts based on madden potential..because the raiders are a top tier team in madden 09 with all that speed

"We thought our offense would play a lot better. We thought we would score more points."
-J** C*****

by SmokinJoeKO on Jun 15, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

If we lose BMarsh (a 92) our overall rating might become the worst in the league.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Jun 15, 2009 4:14 PM MDT reply actions  

worst now?

McDaniels is giving the Broncs a McDouche

by somedumbgamer on Jun 17, 2009 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love that they will update the roster scores throughout the season.

Maybe after we go 4-0 to start, KO’s rating will be better. Same with everyone else that deserves it.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Jun 15, 2009 4:41 PM MDT reply actions  

What

what kind of ratings is that for clady and harris HOSED

Mile High Salute

by TommyTSlice on Jun 15, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions  

They may not be looking at ratings from previous seasons...

but they could at least look at last year’s production. Does anyone here thing that Dre Bly outplayed Andre Goodman last year?…..guess who’s rated higher?

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Jun 15, 2009 5:23 PM MDT reply actions  

LOL

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I used to work for EA Tiburon back in 02-03

Yep, I was a Senior Tester / Database Manager for NCAA, NASCAR, NFL Street and used to help out on Madden during crunchtime.

I know for a fact that the new head of QA is a die-hard Fader fan. He was hired about a week after me back in October of 02. He’s still a buddy of mine, even with his love for the Pilfer’n Crack. I (jokingly) guarantee that even if some tester in the QA dept creates a bug report in an attempt to fix the Broncos’ ratings (which does happen from time to time), my Fader friend will do eveything in his power….to ignore it.

I know a lot of guys in the production dept too, and the guys who create the ratings, they aren’t Broncos’ haters. They usually are pretty accurate. Like 2 years ago when everyone cried about the Patsies “overrating”, and then they went off to go undefeated in the reg seas.

Plus, if the Broncos somehow surprise the rest of the football world and win more than they lose, there are always periodical roster updates from EA.

by SinDonor on Jun 15, 2009 5:27 PM MDT reply actions  

How do you account for the Cowboys 97 rating last year (something like that)?

Awesome job though.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Jun 15, 2009 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oops

I replied to you….below. Heh.

by SinDonor on Jun 15, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

How come the running animations looks so crappy on the next gen compared to the ps2 versions.

they looks soooooo much better in madden 04

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoboy on Jun 15, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

The problem is the amount of canned animations in the game

Every year, EA adds like another bucketload of new animations for EVERYTHING. Passes, jukes, tackles, etc etc etc. So, the good news is that you’ll see a lot of different unique moves throughout the game. The bad news is that the more animations you add, the tougher it is to link them all together to look more fluid.

We tried to iron out a lot of the weirdness during testing, but sometimes, there’s only so much time and budget to fix stuff. Once we’re in late-alpha and early beta, we pretty much have to ignore the smaller issues like weird animations to just focus on big issues like crashes and etc.

It seems like the folks at BackBreaker are trying to remedy that with their crazy physics-based animation engine. All of their “canned animations” are actually put through their physics engine so when two players meet, no matter what position their body/limbs are in, they’ll react “realistically” to each other. Of course, being it’s their first football game, I’m sure we’ll see a few laughable unrealistic collisions, but ya gotta walk before you can run.

by SinDonor on Jun 15, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's the thing I'm most excited about in Backbreaker's gameplay.

There are no canned animations. Hopefully EA will see that game and contact NaturalMotion about putting Euphoria in Madden… then they might win me back as a customer.

No stairway? ...denied!

by papigrande on Jun 15, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I heard a wee rumor

That NaturalMotion’s intent was to sell the tech to EA, but EA wasn’t buying. So they said, “Fine, we’ll make our own game”. I hope they succeed….

by SinDonor on Jun 16, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah dude. backbreaker looks sweet!!!!!!!!!!!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoboy on Jun 17, 2009 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well....

If I had to guess:

They finished 13-3 in a good division. Lost in the playoffs by 4 points to the Super Bowl Champs (Giants). Had a 2nd ranked O and a top 10 D. Plus, they kept most of their studs: Romo (38 total TD, 97 Psr Rat), Owens, Barber, etc.

I guess they had to rank someone #1 in the NFC and they chose the Boys. Sure, in hindsight, it was a bad pick, but heading into 08, the Boys looked stacked (as long as Jessica Simpson stayed away from the games).

I am REALLY looking forward to BackBreaker. I know it’ll be so-so since it’s a first time effort, but the hits look so REAL. I’ll give them my $60 over EA just to have some competition in the football videogame world.

by SinDonor on Jun 15, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions  

I'll second your final point.

I was really really disappointed to see EA get the NFL license, because they had finally gotten some serious competition in the 2K series.

If there’s anything we’ve learned from the ‘09 Broncos so far, it’s that competition can be a good thing.

"Mouth of Ghosts."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 15, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree…I was just provided a counter-argument to your statemetn, “They usually are pretty accurate. Like 2 years ago when everyone cried about the Patsies "overrating", and then they went off to go undefeated in the reg seas.”. Everyone cried about the Cowboys ‘overrating’ this year and they didn’t even make the playoffs. I’d agree that they’re generally pretty good about it though.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Jun 16, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Are we sure these are legit?

I was going to post these rankings three or so days ago, but I stopped short. Why?

Well….

DOOM at 65? Can anyone else see any justification in that? As well as Hill and Goodman being rated as high as rookies?

by phantom818 on Jun 15, 2009 7:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Lots of College fans at EA Tib.

It’s about 50-50 with the love for NCAA and NFL. So, these guys, year after year, rate college players, who then go into the NFL. After years of rating players for NCAA and Madden, the folks at EA have a pretty good idea about how certain rookies might play out in the NFL. Tiburon has a team within the production dept dedicated towards player ratings. When I worked there, we had an ex-FSU QB on staff leading the ratings team. The guys used to ROCKET footballs at us in the parking lot. Thank God I had quick (albeit numb) hands.

by SinDonor on Jun 15, 2009 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t so much the rookies’ ratings I was concerned about…it’s more the current guys, who have seen considerable ratings drop in some cases from this year’s edition of the game. Now I know they’re going with a different rating system and working to put more emphasis on strengths and weaknesses, but that still doesn’t explain guys like Dumervil being that low. Lower than Peterson, Thomas, Fields, Reid AND Crowder? I’ve got to think that was a mistake from whoever picked up the leaked ratings. I’ll be waiting for the official EA release in the coming moths. So again, it’s not the college guys i’m concerned about (they do a good job with those, I must say…and rating updates during the season are a blessing as well).

Also, thanks for the personal insight. It’s no wonder they do a good job with that kind of stuff at EA. Please tell me someone agrees on the Doom issue though. That was the very huge thing that stared me in the face when I first saw these a few days ago.

by phantom818 on Jun 15, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Non bronco fans won't understand Dumervil's situation

last year, he didn’t play a lot of downs on D. The defense was too busy getting ran over, so there weren’t all that many passing downs, which Dumervil plays. People not close to the Broncos see Dumervil sitting on the sidelines for first and second down and think “wow, that dude must be terrible”.

It’s not that dumervil is terrible, it’s just that his specialty is sacking the qb. Unfortunately, the broncos haven’t been in a situation lately for him to do much of that.

That’s probably why he is low. Too much pine.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,114 miles away.

by broncointheville on Jun 16, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Madden Formula

We all know that the internal formula for player talent is something like:

Average(Speed+Strength+Badassness+Intelligence) – 20(IF Player is a Bronco) + 20(If Player is a Redskin)

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 16, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions  

The one good thing about using an underrated team...

….is that it makes beating your friends in the game so much better.

I used to love playing the old NHL games back in the mid-90s and EA would always screw the NJ Devils, even AFTER we won the Cup in 95. We only had 2-3 high rated players (usually Brodeur, Scott Stevens, and Scott Neidermayer), the rest of the team stunk. So, whenever I picked my Devs to play against the overrated Rangers, Flyers, and Pens, it felt great actually beating my friends with the lower rated Devs.

by SinDonor on Jun 16, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of course

The Devils were rated low. They won because the league ignored clutching and grabbing in the neutral zone. That team was responsible for the NHL’s decline.

By the way Sin, what type of people work at EA? What “genius” mind would do dumb things in Madden like not allowing you to use your created playbook in the Franchise Mode four years ago? Who came up with that? I also have questioned the Vision and Precision thing as well, only because you usually have to make an extra move with your controller with the right analog stick, and you don’t always have the time to do that.

by PABroncofan on Jun 16, 2009 2:43 PM MDT reply actions  

I have always known that the folks at Madden hate us.

It is now more evident than ever. I will still use my Broncs, regardless of how shi**y they might be on this game. I can’t wait to score Knowshon’s first TD and grab Darcel his first pick. That is what makes it fun to me. Maybe unload on some poor, unsuspecting WR coming over the middle with Dawkins. Ratings aren’t everything. You still need to be able to pay the game, after all. If anyone has a PS3 and will have NCAA 10 & Madden 10 you can find me online. My name is the same. Rock n’ roll!

Take my advice, I'm not using it !!!

by grind_core on Jul 13, 2009 11:04 PM MDT reply actions  

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