Horse Tracks 6/4/09

by Douglas A. Lee on Jun 4, 2009 5:46 AM MDT in Horse Tracks Comment 65 comments

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Mornin' MHR Friends! I've tried melding the old and new formats a bit; please let me know what you think, and have a great Thursday!

DB - Wednesday’s Practice Report
Gray Caldwell covers the highlights from yesterday's practice.

DB - Kicking with Confidence
Matt Prater has learned to preserve his leg, now that he's not competing for a job like he was a year ago. Josh McDaniels says it's too early to evaluate D-Linemen, he's impressed by Peyton Hillis' wide range of skills, and he'll continue to be hands-on with the quarterbacks.

DB - On Track - Broncos TV
Chris Hall reports from Wednesday's practice.

DB - Passing Camp: McDaniels - Broncos TV
Video of McDaniels meeting with the press; he plays down the absence of Brandon Marshall, who is rehabbing in Florida and covers plenty on the QBs, Peyton Hillis, Elvis Dumervil's absence and more.

DB - Passing Camp: Graham - Broncos TV
Daniel Graham met briefly with the press.

DP - Broncos coach puts QBs' mettle under his pedal
There's a steep learning curve for the QBs with bumps along the way. Not unexpected; I can't wait to see what the MSM does with this article..."John Clayton ~~declares Cutler trade disaster because Kyle Orton is struggling.~~ says Josh McDaniels doesn't know what he's doing, having acquired two QBs who can't figure out his system."

LTC - Broncos RB Jordan hoping for fresh start in Denver
Brian Howell profiles LaMont Jordan, who shares some very interesting thoughts; Jordan admits he's never really worked that hard in prior offseasons, that he's looking to lose weight this summer, and he grew up a Broncos fan rooting for Elway, Atwater and Dennis Smith!

IN - The secret life of Josh McDaniels
Hunter Ansley takes a walk on the bright side of the road. He admires that Josh McDaniels is looking to build a team, rather than a group of individual stars.

CSG - Rookie making big strides on the Broncos defense
Frank Schwab makes a big deal out of Robert Ayers practicing at first team in Elvis Dumervil's absence. Not so sure about that one...

DP - Broncos' McDaniels happy with NFL decision on Marshall
Another rehashing of McDaniels' quotes on BMarsh.

DB - Photos from Wednesday's practice

NFP - Wednesday Whys
Andrew Brandt explains why Brandon Marshall was not suspended this time, and why the Cowboys chose to release Greg Ellis.

CD - Zimmer, voice of CU football, earns prestigious honor
Old friend Larry Zimmer received the Chris Schenkel Award on Wednesday.

ESPN - Manuel is the Lions' latest FA target
The Lions signed former Bronco Marquand Manuel the other day.

KCS - Daily download: Waters should end rift with Haley
Kent Babb thinks it's up to G Brian Waters to hug it out with HC Todd Haley.

SDUT - Chargers recall playing with - and against - Harrison
Some of the Dolts offer recollections of the Dirtiest Player in NFL History.

SDUT - Developer scraps plans for Mission Valley stadium
Another Dolts stadium plan has been dumped.

NFP - Diner Morning News: Chiefs Defense
Mike Lombardi was perplexed by Scott Pioli's decision to hire Clancy Pendergast as the Chefs' DC and is curious to see how much scheming Pendergast will attempt in '09.

SFC - Raiders' Heyward-Bey remains on hold
Darrius Heyward-Bey is still dealing with hamstring issues, among other notes.

SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : OTA notes and quotes

NFL - Westbrook To Undergo Surgery Friday
Iggles RB Brian Westbrook is having surgery on his right ankle tomorrow.

NFL - Young's agent downplays QB's play-me-or-trade-me comments
Major Adams is trying to clean up the mess his player made earlier in the week.

NFL - Dolphins' enviable QB situation also among NFL's most intriguing
Vic Carucci looks at the Dolphins' stacked depth chart at QB.

NFL - Titans would be wise to have some patience with QB Young
Bucky Brooks thinks Vince Young could still thrive in Tennessee.

NFP - Why VY & Leinart Will Sit In ‘09
Matt Bowen expects Vince Young and Matt Leinart to ride the pine once again.

MJS - Dungy: Bears not sure bet
Tony Dungy doesn't seem to impressed by the Bears' move to get Jay Cutler.

SI - New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers vie for team of decade
Don Banks ranks the NFL franchises by their performances this decade. Denver comes in at a surprising 8th despite only 1 playoff victory (and ahead of the Bucs, who won a Super Bowl?!) Now that is going to raise some ire in Tampa.

SI - Tom Brady's 2007, LaDainian Tomlinson's 2006 among NFL's best
Kerry Byrne looks at the best single-season performance at each position by players from this decade.

NFP - Coaches Day
Robert Boland thanks the coaches who've made an impression upon him.

NFP - Why The NFL Will Miss Harrison
Matt Bowen thinks The Dirtiest Player in NFL History will be missed. Sure, maybe by the guy who levies fines will miss him...

NFP - 2009 NFP Scouting Series: South Carolina
Wes Bunting looks at the senior Gamecocks.

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Good Morning!

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 6:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

thanks NYC.

by Matt In Canada on Jun 4, 2009 6:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Nyc. Interesting slate this morning.

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on Jun 4, 2009 7:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks NYC!

That Ansley piece was well thought out and well written. Of course, the comments were from Cutler dead-enders who think that McDaniels is the WORST EVAH!, but he basically says exactly what most of MHR has been saying — McD has a plan, and that plan is a good one. This team will be improved this year, and a lot of people will be left scrambling to find space on the ‘wagon. I’ve got my seat up front where it’s nice and comfortable.

Oh, and good luck with Manuel, Detriot. Are we absolutely sure that Millen isn’t still somehow pulling the strings?

by BroncosBassist on Jun 4, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed on Ansley's article.

Definitely a recommended read.

"Felis silvestris cactus JB, 2009."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 4, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Werd Doug!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Jun 4, 2009 7:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I like this format, with the abbreviations

Well-done, as always, thanks.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jun 4, 2009 7:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Ditto.

Nice format. Thanks NYC!

by NedBronco on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

This is a good compromise, but I will accept the Tracks any way you can deliver them.

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on Jun 4, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the abbreviations from the sources I know… Might as well leave the abbreviations off for the more obscure sources.

by Velveeta on Jun 4, 2009 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks NYC

This is the first site I go to every morning. I love HT.

Did anyone catch the comments made by Tony Dungy on ESPN this morning? Basically (and this is a summary statement I heard on ESPN) he thinks the Bears took a HUGE gamble on taking Cutler, a QB that does not have the record that warrants the amount given up for him. Did McDaniels pull off the biggest trade/steal of the decade?

Go Broncos!

"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes

by HSFBCoach on Jun 4, 2009 7:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Ooops!

NYC . . . you beat me to it. I see you posted a link to the statement I heard on ESPN. You are an information God. Thanks again for the work you do.

"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes

by HSFBCoach on Jun 4, 2009 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How'd Dungy do without a franchise QB?

hmmm?

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm....

Helped develop the Tampa-2 defense, was continually in the playoffs, helped mold Tampa Bay into a serious contender, leaving a team that would win a Super Bowl the year after he left, then gradually slide down from that success, then took a team with a franchise QB that had issues, won a Super Bowl, and ran that team exceedingly well.

So, other than a very successful coaching career all around…not much. :o)

And if the point is “Dungy needed a franchise QB to win, so look what Denver screwed up!”, it might be worth pointing out that, if Dungy recognizes the value of a TRUE franchise QB, but isn’t sold on Cutler due to issues with the “other” aspects of being an NFL QB (oh, and with how Cutler left Denver)…then maybe the labeling of Cutler as a franchise QB (which, I will admit, I was fully on board with until recently) is a TAD premature.

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on Jun 4, 2009 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

my point was he really only had success with the one QB

so how would he know. Get it?

Tampa was a FAILURE with Dungy.

Quit translating his very few words to derive your meaning! And definitely don’t translate mine.

P Manning had issues? Seriously?

You were fully on board with labeling him a franchise QB until recently… did I miss a game Stu?

Jay’s NOT a franchise QB BTW… maybe he never will be. He’s got it all but hasn’t proved a thing except that he won’t take any sh@t from some disrespectful (he felt) upstart coach who ALSO hasn’t proved anything except that he won’t back down to some snot nosed (he felt) young potential franchise QB.

Can’t wait to see it all work out on the field!

BTW isn’t Cutler a BEAR?

I will likely continue to defend him every time you haters feel the need to bash him but DAMN can’t we talk about the Broncos?

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d hardly call the Bucs a failure under Dungy. He took the biggest joke of a franchise and turned them into perennial contenders.

Continually getting to the playoffs and falling short like the Bucs did under Dungy would be a good problem for McDaniels to have.

by Velveeta on Jun 5, 2009 4:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dungy

I don’t know about that either.

He didn’t win the big one but he was one year removed. Gruden’s Superbowl is arguably 80-60% Dungy’s. He had great success and certainly more than Denver has had in recent seasons.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 5, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the News

Has anyone else mentioned Clayton’s brilliant take that if Simms wins the QB battle it will be a double disaster for Denver because we won’t be able to take advantage of Clady’s ability at the blind side.

I guess he has never heard of the other Ryan on the OL.

I also found it interesting that Tony Dungy isn’t impressed but I am going to just brush that off because what would Tony Dungy know about how to win football.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 4, 2009 7:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

seriously...

Dungy retired with Peyton friggin Manning as his QB. He wouldn’t know a franchise QB if he won the SB with one…

…oh. ;-)

"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels

by Colorado_Kitten on Jun 4, 2009 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really appreciate all your work NYC

It’s so great to have all these links in one place.

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

by BShrout on Jun 4, 2009 8:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the Horse Tracks, NYC.

Seeing the amount of links on days like today sure does remind me/us of just how great a job you’re doing.

"Felis silvestris cactus JB, 2009."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Thumbs up on the new format for me...

Really making my life easy by posting these links daily NYC Thanks!

by bchiper on Jun 4, 2009 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Everyone respects Dungy....

and his comment about Cutler….“There’s alot more to being a great QB than just being able to make all the throws” …is something that should stick in the craw of all the MSM haters.

I like it!

Thanks for the morning news!

A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!!

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Jun 4, 2009 9:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

This was something

reiterated the other day throughout the MSM about Vince Young. Great athleticism but there is more to being a QB.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 4, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

More like more of the shakey validation Cutler haters need.

Cutler has everything you want in a young QB, leadership & poise under pressure not the least! The only indications of anything other than that come here! Not from former players or coaches …you know, folks who’d know.

BTW Dungy’s comments address the risk of paying so much for Jay as unrealized potential and mentioned that he’d be concerned as to Jay’s part in the split with Denver… (Of course, who wouldn’t be) Nothing negative! Boy, haters WILL reach.

The only thing Cutler doesn’t have is the Broncos…. But at least he still has all you folks trashing him every chance you get. Maybe I should start posting every good thing I can find on him? There’s tons of it past, present & very likely future!

But I won’t CUZ HE’S A BEAR!!

Let it go!

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"leadership & poise under pressure"

If he had that, he wouldn’t be 0-4 in games that could have clinched a playoff berth.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Jun 4, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

and u seem so intelligent!

Now one man can win games for us eh?
Elway started out 0-3 when it really mattered!
Superbowls.
You make it too easy for me!

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW how many games did he contribute to winning

after our defense tried to give them away?
How many fourth quarter come-backs with zero run support?
Come on, give the guy a break!
I bet you were calling him the next coming last year!
Weren’t u?
QB play was certainly no weakness last year.
If he really sucked, you wouldn’t be so mad at him for leaving!

Let’s talk about Orton & Simms… Broncos QBs!!
I’d like to see Simms make up for the pain his father inflicted on us! I wonder who will be our Meggett? Maggot?

Orton? Could be exactly what he appears to be…average. Let’s hope not. He certainly should improve over a not bad last year …with our O-minded coach, our O-line & our receivers… but then he’ll be without the field position I’m sure his Bears special teams and D gave him more regularly than he’s likely to get here…

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Let it go"

You’d do well to follow your own advice

by AllBroncsallday on Jun 5, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm responding to comments made

not starting the thread!

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 5, 2009 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks NYC,

This feature is invaluable and it saves me loads of time each day.

"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley

by ButteBronco on Jun 4, 2009 9:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Let me gete this straight -- two separate MHR members have a picture of Clay Davis for their profile image?

I did not figure the MHR crowd to be nuts for The Wire. Life is full of surprises.

by Chibronx on Jun 4, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

not just a pic

but the SAME pic. It has intrigued me for some time now…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 4, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL...

Yeah, the Wire is my favorite TV show of all time. I guess I should change the pic, but since I found it online, cropped it, etc. the day I joined, I don’t really want to. Oh well. I’m going to start looking for a Bunk Moreland pic…

by ButteBronco on Jun 4, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

But you chose the picture independently of GJContingent-rAD?

Or did GJ swipe the picture from you?

Why change the picture? It’s awesome, although it does imply rather directly that you aren’t to be trusted.

by Chibronx on Jun 4, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I chose it independently the day I joined.

I’m not sure if GJ swiped it from me or coincientially cropped the same photo from google images (it wouldn’t be a huge streatch as the source picture was one of only a couple pictures available). I guess the reason I would change it has more to do with the shock factor when I log in of seeing the avatar in the fanpost section, I always do a double-take. Also, people may confuse our posts (which wouldn’t be a problem for me because I like GJ’s stuff— I just don’t want to drag him down to my level!).

by ButteBronco on Jun 4, 2009 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes!

New Avatar.

by ButteBronco on Jun 5, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am a BIG fan of the Wire

But no Clay Davis pic for me

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jun 4, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why not?

Why wouldn’t we be nuts for The Wire? I own every season on DVD. One of the greatest TV shows in recent memory.

Or, as Clay Davis would say, Sheee-yiiiiit. ;-)

by underdog on Jun 4, 2009 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just goes to show

the MHR folks are some smart fellas and ladies. The Wire is the smartest television show ever aired in my opinion, and third all time, after The Sopranos and All In The Family.

by 3RingsHeProbablyKnowsSomething on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

WARNING, WARNING

SINCE I AM NO LONGER ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS SITE, THEN THIS IS MY ONLY OPTION FOR RESPONSE, , I RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM ONE OF THE EDITORS AT MHR THAT I AM TOO NEGATIVE AND ATTACKING TOWARD MHR AND THAT I AM NO LONGER ALLOWED TO POST HERE, FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS ORWELLIAN FANTASY, PLEASE VIEW MY POSTS AND SEE IF YOU AGREE. AS FOR ME I HAVE NO TIME FOR THIS. ADIOS

by frontalobe on Jun 4, 2009 9:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

This is laughable!!

I can take alot of things. I put up with alot running a fan website. One thing I don;t go for is someone questioning my integrity. Below is the WARNING that you received. I am putting it here since you decided to go public with utter lies —

“Why all the attacks and talk of ‘arrogance’? I happen to think MHR is the exact opposite! If anything, we get criticized as a staff for drinking too much of the kool-aid. If there is a specific problem, please email me at ”mailto:milehighreport@gmail.com">milehighreport@gmail.com"

No where in that warning does it say you can’t post on MHR. No where on the warning did I say you were too negative or attacking. I simply asked WHY you were making comments like you did, and if there was a specific problem, to email me.

It is you that are living in a fantasy. Creating something here that doesn’t exist.

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by John Bena on Jun 4, 2009 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably because of comments like this:

i appreciate the info of this website, i don’t aprreciate the arrogance, see you in december eggheads.

That’s trolling in my book.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Jun 4, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have reviewed all 14 of your posts to this date.

I have found some civil, but a few of your comments are rants which are directed at no one in particular, or which argue angrily against a point which has not been made by anyone. You authored a reasonable post, and then destroyed your own credibility with your outrageous comments. Several times, people (like Jon T) asked you for evidence to support your claims, and you have yet to respond or engage in intelligent debate. You are completely welcome here, as far as I’m concerned, but there’s no reason for the F-bombs (see Papi’s linked article) or the name calling (see Broncobear’s response to the same linked article) or the general hostile tone of some of your posts. Tone it down, relax, and come back into the fold. Or don’t if you really feel that this site is controlled by Big Brother. Dissenting opinions make this place work, but we can disagree without being disagreeable.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jun 4, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also

like how someone who is supposedly “no longer allowed to post on this site” posts on this site saying they can’t post on this site.

As Bugs Bunny would say, oh ag-o-neeee, the agoneeee….

by underdog on Jun 4, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

curiouser and curiouser.

and as yet, no response. Wow.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jun 4, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

TROLL

Carry on

by AllBroncsallday on Jun 4, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hillis

I’m liking what I’m hearing! Carries in single-back sets, blocking in two-back sets…and being split out wide as a receiver. This is VERY good news!

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on Jun 4, 2009 10:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

McD recognizes the TALENT and the ATTITUDE!

I have to “evil laugh” to myself at the thought of other teams having to deal with Hillis this season. There is a question about his health, but that injury was a fluke (knock on wood) because of the way the pass was thrown, the coverage he beat to catch it, and the extra effort he showed to make the play. I LOVE ME SOME DOUBLE-DEUCE MOOSE!

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously

I doubt very many people could have caught that pass. It was truly amazing.

by trumanj on Jun 4, 2009 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed.

This is great news to me too. Earlier in the offseason, I had heard rumblings of both Hillis and Scheffler having a hard time finding a place in McDaniels’ offense. Now, Scheffler said that he talked with McD and they are both on the same page and Hillis is getting looks everywhere. I am so glad that Hillis is getting all of those different looks. Last year he was a great player. Not good, GREAT. He gave the broncos an extra pop. The way he bulldozed defenders made me smile and grimace at the same time. The grimacing was clearly from sympathy for the poor defensive player. I thought “I wonder what it is like to be completely destroyed by an OFFENSIVE player.”

This is what I want to see next season. McD mentioned splitting Hillis out and letting him catch passes in an interview. I want to see Hillis lined up in the slot, taking a crossing route, receiving the pass, and LAYING THE WOOD to the poor MLB that happened to go in for the tackle.

Would that not be the best Bronco play of all time????

Instant classic……..

Bringing Bronco love from 1,114 miles away.

by broncointheville on Jun 4, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This has been informative.

Good stuff today. Thanks, NYC! The Ansley write-up is MSM for MHR. Talk about rosy! I think he (and we) will be proven correct.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jun 4, 2009 11:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, that could have been written by anyone on this site!

I liked the article, though it was almost redundant after spending the last couple of months viewing this sight. Just another reason why I come here first for all my Broncos needs!

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by Choochoobonewagon on Jun 4, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly.

MHR to Ansley: Tell us something we DON’T know.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jun 4, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just wonderful info all rolled into one post.

Good works as always and I really like the new format along with where the news came from. Like others, I really like Ansley’s article on Josh. It was very well written.

I totally agree with you Clayton comments. I would love to see how he answers to the article you posted. He seems to know so much about coaching in the NFL for a guy who never was a NFL coach. I mean did he even play footbll? MSM just cracks me up sometimes and makes me appreciate this site more and more.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

NBA Finals: Lakers v. Magic. Game 1 June 4th

by weazel on Jun 4, 2009 11:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Knowshon is Tweeting

Sorry if this was posted earlier but Knowshon is now on Twitter.

by underdog on Jun 4, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Moreno

CBS Fantasy Football Gurus just wish Moreno could have been drafted by a team where he had a chance to succeed… like the Browns.

At that point I just turned it off.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 4, 2009 3:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

No kidding!

If Moreno could have gone to a team that has a good offensive line, good RB coach that can make use of Moreno’s talents, and be surrounded by good receiving threats to back the defense up a bit, he could be a weapon.

Yep, too bad he went to Denver.

[rolls eyes]

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on Jun 4, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya

They had insightful commentary such as “Denver could have shored up their defense for years to come with those two picks, especially if they both hit.”

Really? So if both the picks turned out to be pro bowl superstars we could have shored up our D?
Talk about a big “IF.”

With regards to drafting it is very interesting all the articles being written suddenly about the 06 draft and “What the hell happened?” as QBs ride the pine and whatnot. I am surprised that they never put 2 and 2 together when talking about this draft or future drafts.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 4, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would truly be

Addition by subtraction

With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg

by KaptainKirk on Jun 4, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I I like like KM...

I agree with "Denver could have shored up their defense for years to come with those two picks, especially if they both hit."

If? Of course. So is Moreno!

I think most of the reasonable folks realize (after calling for McD’s head and then realizing that we had better get used to him cuz he’s not going anywhere…) lol. I think we realize that while the difference one or two picks could potentially be great …the odds that some definitive indication of their merit (good or bad) comes along and proves one side’s point… VERY UNLIKELY.

As far as 2 & 2? Which two was which again that’s so obvious? Without a single game played? I think the point was it takes years to realize the value of past drafts… We may never know the true merit of this one but for sure we don’t now! Let’s let this one simmer awhile shall we?

by Whidbey Bronco on Jun 4, 2009 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It Does

So it frustrates me to no end when the analysis is from the standpoint that we lost so much based on what we didn’t take not on what we did.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Jun 5, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Save all these kinds of

videos and articles. Save them so you can send them back to those dopes or the people who hire them as a reminder of their insightful commentary when the Broncos end being better than they predicted. (And no they don’t need to make the Super Bowl for them to be proven idiotic.)

by underdog on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chris Simms will be a much better qb than Orton!!! I think the Cutler trade was a good one. Cutler played ncollege football at Vanderbuilt (hahahahahahahahha) and theres a reason for that. He wasnt recruited by any REAL football schools.

Mark

by hoganmlhogan91 on Jun 4, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs