Kyle Orton - A Green, Beatles fan.... Moreso, QB by committee
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 6, 2009 12:54 PM MDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXTNeqVvFKw&feature=fvw
Ran across this on YouTube and thought it was well worth sharing.
It also provoked me to further consider the fact that the Quarterback spot is still a 'competitive' spot on the roster, which was my understanding of what Mr. McDaniels likely told Jay, that EVERY spot will be a competition, EVERY year.... That could very well be part of that whole deal, I'm not goin' there, just pointing out.....
Here is a Part Three of the "Neck Beard" series, a brief interview with Kyle's wife.... HILARIOUS!!! >=-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8N143GPXzM&feature=related
I could not find Part One of the series, but if someone can and posts it in a comment that would be cool.
So, basically I like Kyle and have a bit more confidence in him becoming the starter, but I wanted to start a discussion on what it would be like having a Quarterback by committee type a deal....
In my rating of pros and cons in a scenario like Our team's....
The first ranked pro is - less physical strain on your preferred quarterback, the con comes down to stats... Most people dig stats, I don't really, because I don't have any NFL stats LoL! - but really, I can see how it may be hard for a qb's mindset to be really passionate about sharing the position, not only that but moreso that it messes with the mindset of both qb's as far as - "I just threw an interception and the coach put the other dude in... Last time I threw one he didn't..wtf?".... The other thing I constantly wonder (and I'm sure McD keeps in mind, as well since Chris was originally hired as a backup) is Mr. Simms has no spleen and I'm not sure can take too many particular types of hits.
Just to make clear, I am hoping KO is our starter and actually knowing more about his personality has increased my confidence in him as a good character person, as well (many-a-time, it can decrease it to know more about a person's general speech patterns, whether or not they seem to have any actual opinions of their own, not just regurgitated ones in which they themselves have never actually thought through, behavioral tendencies, etc.). The fact that he is Mother Earth-considerate and a Beatles fan just tips the scales for me!!
I'm sure (as would be the case if we still had that other dude) that our coach sees the benefit of telling your QB's that it will ALWAYS be a competition to get the starting position and I'm still spitballin' here really, just trying to start a cool discussion about the QB by committee, especially considering Our two (three? Brandstater?) current talents. Look forward to the thoughts and discussion. First post, let me know!
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Nice post PJ, and I knew right away that I liked KO
because he drinks the Jack. Attitude and character are the focal points of this new HC. For being as young as he is, he realizes the need for those tangibles in players. A team doesn’t need a bad character issue, all they do is take away the main focus of the goal. That’s winning. KO will be fine, but it isn’’t certain that he will be the starter this fall. I don’t believe we will know until mid preseason who will be under center. 13-3 Baby!!!
Hilarious!
Yeah, besides the shavekyleorton website, which I didn’t bother checking out by the way, I’ve heard of (and seen one video) where you can discern that Kyle’s all drunk, and there’s a lady dancin’ in front of him… I liked him from the git-go too, especially seeing how many fans and teammates were confounded with the Bear’s willingness to get rid of him.
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 6, 2009 1:28 PM MDT reply actions
By the video
It seems like he is a likable and down to earth guy, no wonder his teammates like him.
With the 12th pick, the Broncos select Knowshon Moreno - Roger Goodell
That'll move the chains - Andy Samberg
My friend just got back from the Fan Fair!
I asked him to go for me so I could get him to buy a couple mini helmets (which I would of course, pay for) and get them signed. I was hoping for at least a Moreno auto… KO would have been cool too, but guess who he got?
Elway and Champ!! Stellar stuff… I’ve already made the decision, that no matter how much it will cost to take time off work and come out from Wichita, I’m going next summer.
As far as QB by committee, I think it would open up so many options, especially if our QB’s had catching talent as well… Wildcat formation – our backs and receivers have noteworthy throwing talent, so we could engineer a Wildcat formation with a receiver taking the snap too. I just couldn’t find any team that has outright done a QB by committee, intentionally that is, as a scheme or strategy.
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 6, 2009 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Dan Reeves ran it...
Reeves ran a quarterback by committee when Elway got hurt. I believe he ran it with T. Maddox and Moore. If I remember correctly, it didn’t work very well at all. There was a significant drop off in talent when Elway left the field. Congrates on the helmets!
Yeah -
I don’t know how I never heard of the Fan Fair until after I moved to Wichita…. But what a friend!
Thanks sbs!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Committee
I for one do not see a QB committee being at all successful. QB requires a certain leadership skill set and a unique commitment from other players that other positions don’t quite require. My thought is…let them battle it out, and the best man win. I remember the Reeves QB committee and it was a disaster. One QB will win the job by the start of the season…The whole idea of a QB committee reminds me of a kinda related saying that my grandpa used to have. He said, " Give me one boy, and I’ll get one boy’s worth of work done. Give me two boys, and I’ll get half a boy’s worth of work done…" My grandpa was actually referring to the increased goof-off factor of two boys, but the end result is the same. I see no scenario under which a QB committee serves this team well.
Committee
Just wanted to add that the reason why Reeves ran the QB committee was because neither QB at the time was starter caliber. If you have a capable starter, stick with him.
Thanks for the input
The consensus I always seem to get is the same, it would only happen if one didn’t have enough talent in one given player…. I was just thinking with a situation like ours, where no teams have much of an idea of what our team will perform like (including us still to a large degree), the huge potential we have to completely throw teams off guard with some packages with rotating the QB/ no QB on the field (Wildcat, or snap directly to a receiver – i.e. Royal)…. Don’t get me wrong, I want Kyle to start, just entertaining potential notions, really… Like how Jake used to hold for Elam, and we only utilized the potential for faking (not very much)….
Thanks again for the reminders and SBS and Bronco Jeff!!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
McDaniels at Fanfair
I enjoyed the article that the DP wrote about McDaniels’ participation at Fanfair. He seems like a good guy who will walk among the peeps.
Seems like he’s going to make it easy to pull for him.
He also conducted himself very well during an interview he gave to Scott Hastings and Al Williams on the 104.3 The Fan. Al asked him to “talk him off the ledge” after the Cutler trade. He did a wonderful job. If you want to spike the Kool-Aid, you should listen to his interview.
Though he’s unproven, you’ve got to give the guy credit for inspiring confidence.
But who will guard the guards themselves?
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jun 7, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions
Thanks for the links!!!!
‘Talk him off the ledge’ – that’s kinda how I felt, pretty good stuff, yeah I would really have appreciated meeting McPadawan. I’m hopin’ he stays as consistent with his PR practices and I have the chance next year or somthing. I have a lot of respect for Mr. McDaniels after doing my research.
Right on Agent, thanks again – 09’s the time!!!!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks AJ...
I hadn’t heard that interview before. JM seems like he’s got a good grip on where things are, where he wants to go and how he plans to get there and for now that’s all I can ask or expect.
"as in football so in life"
yeah, he seems to have a plan
Plus, he seems just seems like a good guy. Like the type I’d want to have a beer with. Sure, he’s confident. But I wouldn’t want a coach who lacked confidence. That’s one of Wade Phillips’ problems. Phillips is nice, a sound strategist, but he doesn’t inspire confidence.
I think the dolts who say McDaniels is trying to emulate Bill Belichek aren’t very well-informed. The more I learn about him, the more I believe he’s the anti-Belichek.
But who will guard the guards themselves?
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jun 7, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Definitely....
McDaniels has proven he can learn from other people’s systems, AND implement systems with players who have never utilized those types before, with successful results.
He definitely has his very own style and I’m sure a good bit of original system(s), schemes, plays, and implied techniques. I’ll be stoked just to see some footage from camps where guys are wearing pads!!!!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
He is passionate about what he does
it shines through in everything we’ve seen about him.
I don’t ask for a lot from people, but one thing I insist on when I back someone is that they are passionate about what they do, in any field.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 7, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions
He definietely comes off that way
That radio interview that AJF posted certainly exploits that fact, and also his confidence in general!
Every press conference I’ve seen, he may not have answered every question asked with accuracy (and I wonder who expects him to?), but in every one, he exudes that same level of confidence and for the most part, the passion as well. I hope it remains consistent throughout his tenure with us!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Great post my man.
Thanks for the link to the radio intreview too. It is a great intreview and never get tired of it!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
That was diercted at AJF...2 great posts mate!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJslUl-zQM&feature=related
This is part one. Sorry, I don’t know how to do a clickable link
Cool
Thanks Maui !!
- I guess I was looking for something titled like ‘neck beard’ again…. I even went to the mouthpiece sports home page and couldn’t find it in their archives. Anyway, that provides a little more insight to how Kyle’s likely feeling now, competing with Simms.
That’s weird, the way I post clickable links, is just copy and paste….?
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jun 7, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Iowa State Ran It
It seems in the situations I’ve seen it really only gets done in a situation where like at ISU you had a proven starter and a star freshman who they wanted to be on the field. I’m not claiming to be knowledgeable of Cyclone’s football, i only watched two games last year, but early on they did go by committee. I can see a system in Miami this year that could have 3 different QB’s posting stats, Pat White is a freak and could see a lot of field and Henne is built to be a starter but they are sitting behind Pennington. If it comes down to a coin flip for the job then i could see something happening where we have certain sets that incorporate one or the other and both. I hope the job will be won, but if it isn’t and we would incorporate something of the sort i would hope that the team is fully capable of giving all of their trust and respect to whoever is under center. Thanks all for all of the links.
Joey * Johhny * Dee Dee * Kyle
The interviewer called it a Beatles haircut, but it was really a lot more Ramones.
From that interview, I really get a sense of why McDaniels valued him so highly. He’s down to earth, humble, has a good sense of humor, and offsets the carbon emissions from Brandon Marshall’s Escalade.
Plus, his wife is cool- She could be the next Lisa McCaffrey.
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