Philip Rivers... A Comforting Blurb
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 15, 2009 10:09 PM MDT
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Saw this on Yahoo, the title of the article is Hilarious in itself, considering what and who it's about.
"Philip Rivers gets beat by a high schooler, doesn't confiscate tape"
Cracked me up a little, even though it didn't really seem like much for a competition. Still enjoyable to trash talk Rivers a little. It will certainly be different, without the rivalry like Jay and he had, and with the creaming they handed us most recently, seems Philip kinda had the last laugh of that chapter of it. Of course, their rivalry will continue for the remainder of at least one of their careers, but won't matter nearly as much to either team/player/team's fans....
Wanted to share that and basically sort of portray an overall outcome/comparison in stats of the rivalry.
Jay obviously had the upper hand in passing yards this season with a total of 4,526 - to Rivers' 4,009, since Rivers has been in the league longer and last season we were pretty pass-heavy, let's take a look at a cumulative total of '07 and '08 stats for some perspective.
Jay Cutler Philip Rivers
Passing Yards 8,023 7,161
Completions 681 589
Attempts 1,083 938
Percentage 62.95 62.75
TD's 45 55
Rushing TD's 3 1
Rushing Att. 101 60
Rushing Yds. 405 117
Interceptions 32 26
Fumbles 16 19
Fumbles Lost 6 10
Total Turnovers 38 36
Times Sacked 38 47
And good call NYC - here are some crucial stats that I missed
TD% 4.2 5.85
INT % 2.95 2.8
Rating 87.05 93.95
Those added stats do supplement the evidence that Philip is the lesson giver....
Looking at the numbers that really count, TD's and Int's, Rivers is on top, but we all know how many elements come into play in this sport and this is why stats can belie so much. If I had to pick a QB only having these stats as criteria to select from (obviously excluding names), I might just pick (Jay), especially considering only throwing 145 more attempts, but still completing 92 more passes, this is why I highlighted rushing yards as well, I personally like a QB who CAN produce rushing yards, not necessarily has to, or does. IMHO Jay was always was a little run happy (especially his rookie year, in preseason LOL!!!).....
Also noteworthy, Cutler had 8 fumbles and lost 2 in his rookie season, only playing in five games - Rivers had the exact same number of fumbles and played in 16 games
I like to try and look at performance and of course, point out how "Our guy" was better, but this was more of just pointing it out for a little more Cutler closure, if you will. Like I said, I might just pick the QB with a couple more turnovers, and less TD's if I had a gut feeling, but seeing that we can actually watch players play and gauge their potential more accurately than stats can, with my Broncos bias, I still would have picked Cutler. Now, as far as who came out as the 'top dawg' and removing bias/ looking at it objectively..... What do you all think, did this rivalry end with Cutler being the better performer? I personally have to say that Rivers seems to have had the upper hand, but I also believe that Cutler's last game as a Bronco has a huge part in my feeling that way.
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First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 15, 2009 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Kind of like comparing pouters to cryers.
I notice that Rivers likes to keep his pocket more and is willing to take the sack or he just doesn’t have the mobility to get out and run. Cutler needs to use the whole field instead of focusing to long on one target. Other than that they are somewhat comparable IMO.
That's sort of the conlcusion I come to
Besides the fact that Cutler does seem more ‘aware’ of pressure and more capable of successfully escaping it/ making something out of it, they are sort of neck and neck overall.
It will be nice when Our division plays the NFC North, as I will look forward just a little bit more, to watching not only Us playing them, but the Chargers as well.
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 15, 2009 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed PearlJam
The Rivers v. Cutler rivalry isn’t over yet. I guarantee Jay will spout out a bunch of crap to SD players. Although I don’t like Rivers, he is a better quarterback than Cutler. If you really consider it and be honest with yourself, SD has just as many weapons as we do. Rivers has done more with his offense, he’s a better quarterback.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
If the rivalry is over as of the trade, Rivers WINS hands down
Cutler has only played well against the Chargers like once right, I suppose he played pretty good against them in that first short season, but he is 1-4 heads up with Rivers. The Broncos were outscored 86-202 in those games. With the exception the second week of 08 Cutler rarely looked like the superior QB in the contests.
I wish I didn’t have to say it, but the Charger’s QB simply beat out Denver’s QB in terms of their personal rivalry.
However, I agree that the rivalry is far from over. I bet they will be compared to each other nearly as much as Cutler and Orton will be. And because they won’t be playing each other very often anymore, I expect it will be all they talk about in the MSM from now on when they do face off. Should be a fun rivalry to watch for years to come.
I have a hard time picking between which one I would rather have though, they’re both very good, but I don’t really like either one (as people). Probably Rivers though, only because I read him as a better team leader, and he has been able to put up more points.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
It will just go away
One plays in the NFC….. ONE plays in the AFC……. They will infrequently meet
because of this factor. Both men will probably grow up and get over this and move
on..
by broncosfaninphilly on Jul 16, 2009 7:47 AM MDT reply actions
I disagree
I don’t think that the media will let it go away. Do not forget, they are “attention whores.” That is what justifies their salaries.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Good point Kaptain
Especially when they do meet up. The media will have (a) field day(s)!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 19, 2009 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Philip Rivers
3 seasons as starting QB
3 division titles
Where are the important numbers like TD%, INT%, QB Rating?
Thanks nyc
I wanted to add stats from when each player’s team is leading, behind in score, and tied – but time became an issue and I just got these three you pointed out…. No matter what, I’ll always feel a bit inferior when I put up a post with stats, just because of the quality/depth of some of the other posters….. But thanks for pointing that out and next time I’ll do it the way I desired or not at all – it does seem a bit hollow.
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 19, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
PJ
It has been my experience that each post has a better development(the more you do, the better they get). What matters foremost, is that you care about what you’re writing about.(I believe you do) so, do not worry, just let it flow Dude.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Not hollow
I hope my comment wasn’t too terse; it certainly may have come across that way. FYI, QB rating cannot be averaged; it must be recalculated. I’ve done the math for you…
’07 & ’08 QB Ratings:
Cutler – 86.89
Rivers – 94.22
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 20, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You simply rock nycbroncosfan!!!
No, I understood what you were saying/ your intention and didn’t take offense, it was a valid point!
- Must be recalculated eh?
Thanks for doing the math for me – I’ll have to do a little research to figure out how that’s done. I hope you’re getting your fill of offseason, we’re almost through!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 21, 2009 7:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Awesome
You are an asset to my Bronco fan-liness – Well, you and of course, MHR and all other contributing members! Thank you (some more) nyc!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 23, 2009 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I vote
we just move on and forget about Jay Cutler. I’m just sick of the whole darn thing. We have a new QB his Name is Kyle Orton and he is gonna be great. By week 3 we’ll all be saying Jay Who?
I'm not sick of Jay
It will be a blast watching the other orange and blue! Even when they get creamed!
Though I am sick at the thought of ‘what could have been’ with Jay.
Don’t get me wrong though, Kyle is the bad-a$$ that we think he is, and I personally will have just as much (if not more) of a blast watching him lead our O, than I did Jay.
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 19, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions
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