Horse Tracks 7/20/09 - Happy Birthday, Casey Wiegmann and D.J. Williams!!
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 20, 2009 5:43 AM MDT
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GS - Ex-Gator Moss now a linebacker
Hmm. Jarvis says he feels right at home playing LB. So, you mean the Broncos shouldn't have traded UP in the first round to take an undersized DE who is miscast positionally? Oh. Whoops. Hopefully the switch works out.
Athlon - 2009 Denver Broncos Preview
Hmm. Magazine sales must be dropping. Or, at least they should be; Athlon still has J.J. Arrington and Boss Bailey on the team, while the retention of Bobby Turner and Rick Dennison is ignored to say the blocking scheme will be totally different.
SB - Raiders Blog and Q&A: Elway almost a Raider?
Wow. Try not to have any nightmares tonight. It's okay; it DIDN'T HAPPEN.
DP - Jeff Legwold to join The Denver Post
Here's the best Broncos news in months. Thank you DP and welcome back, Jeff!! Thanks to Elizabeth for the link!
DP - Fans' hopes fall when Watson's shots don't
Dusty Saunders doesn't know who will be alongside Dave Logan calling Broncos games.
FOX - 7 Points: Mason needs to decide on future in NFL - Ed Thompson
Thompson perpetuates the myth that Alphonso Smith has to come up big in '09 to justify the price Denver paid. Well, he's probably not starting either way. So if he's not a starter until 2 years from now, the trade was dumb? What are you saying, Ed?
PFW - Jets' Washington seeks elite-back contract
PFW apparently can't make up its mind about Smith. He is the "heavy favorite" at nickelback but "didn't cement his role during OTAs" (as if that's possible for a rookie).
NFL - Vikings pleased with Favre's progress from biceps tendon surgery
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PFW - NFC East training-camp previews
SI - Sean Payton guest authors Monday Morning QB for Peter King - Sean Payton
Y! - Lambeau playoff stunner made Vick a force - Mike Silver
NYT - Why Peyton Manning Isn’t More Revered - The Fifth Down Blog - KC Joyner
Y! - T.O. hopes series shows other side of his reality
I'm trying to figure out how much I'd have to be paid to watch this show. I just can't settle upon a number.
PFW - Jonesing for redemption - Dan Waters
I wonder if Dan Waters really knows what the word "Jonesing" means. I'm guessing not.
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Good Morning NYC
It’s too bad about Tom Watson. I was pulling for him.
Thanks for the Horse Tracks.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 7:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That's great news about Jeff at the DP!
: D
by NedBronco on Jul 20, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
3 year and it
still remain to be see of the jarven moss. I not see any the flash of great when he defence end guy. No move guy no moves you know what I saying. The signatured move. I hopeful he can will be contribute of the outside line back yes or that is corny. robert ayer seem like he the terminator guy. he is new hope like new jedi or something. he you defence technical I hope he can terminate quarter back too. from out side positional.
Sack so rare in the denver it rare than where waldo. If we dont smash you enemy team quart back this year it gon be long year guy. Where is pole axe megaton holio in air hit of enemy quarter back guy. what happen to it and pick off pass run other way. You make you enemy quart back delusional is good to do why cant we do this guy maybe new system will do this. we get like ten new guy on defence. It have to be better then last year.
I is fan of the Denver
by Horvil Tiki on Jul 20, 2009 8:16 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It definite have to be, Horvil
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely amazing guy, an me too worry bout who detroy enema sack wen no good to use.
Crazy man, crazy!!
by bfree2bronc on Jul 20, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I'm out of the loop
I totally didn’t realize the Broncos had released JJ Arrington! Still thought he was with the team. Oh well, so much for that! Guess Knowshon meant his doom.
by underdog on Jul 20, 2009 8:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually Dash
JJ and the team came to an accord. They released him (on good terms) because he had not recovered from microfracture surgery and subsequently failed his physical. His contract was terminated, so there was no cap hit, and the door was left open for a possible return when he is healed. It really seemed like it was handled in a classy way by both parties.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, true...How do you say Darrin Sproles look alike?
If he heals he could be a return guy.
by bfree2bronc on Jul 20, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah cool, thanks
I totally missed all that for some reason. Must have happened when I was away. That’s good to hear, that it was handled well. I admit I’ve always kind of liked him, though he’s clearly not an every down back. Seems like someone who could help as a KR and a 3rd down guy, but only if healthy. And obviously they have quite a few other options right now. Cheers.
by underdog on Jul 20, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In defense of Athlon magazine
They did pick the Broncos to come in 2nd in the division, which is not unreasonable. Also, on page 55, they say the Broncos got the best free agent bunch in the AFC by signing Andra Davis, Brian Dawkins, Renaldo Hill and Andre Goodman. Too bad they didn’t mention Buckhalter, Jordan, Darrell Reid, Ronnie Fields or Jabbar Gaffney.
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
by bradley on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
True
which is better than the Pro Football Weekly/Yahoo Sports NFL preview mag I skimmed through yesterday which picked the Broncos to finish last. I know there are some people here who expect the same result but that seems seriously, well as my friends in the UK would say, naff. Great OL, improved defense, great RB depth, and imho improved assistant coaching staff + still fairly weak division does not = last place to me. But whatever, I guess no Cutler means the difference between winning and losing. (Not that it did in the past.) Anyway, whatever, preview magazines are all guess work anyway, and seem to, as you point out, miss some of the player transactions due to press schedule or lazy reporting.
by underdog on Jul 20, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
same result w/ new personnel?
It’s not illogical, necessarily — “there are some people here who expect the same result” — since many teams fail to correct their problems and flounder for years, but that’s not the argument that’s being made.
What many pundits are arguing is that we should be as good as last year, or even worse because we lost Cutler, BECAUSE ‘we’ were that good last year. Essentially, the changes aren’t even being considered! Unless they consider our trading of Cutler, and in those cases we’re considered a suddenly hopeless team.
Even though I haven’t subjected the pundits’ attitudes to a rigorous mathematical analysis it’s pretty obvious that ‘the’ pundits are basing their decision on a scant group of so-called facts and ignoring anything that doesn’t fit within the contrived MSM narrative. And oddly, we were given too much of the benefit of the doubt when we made numerous, and ill-considered, acquisitions on defense in the last two years. Looking back, it’s now easy to see that there were enormous blunders, but somehow those blunders — which are no longer with the team — are being used as the baseline to project this year’s record.
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
by Colinski on Jul 20, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
given the same result
would be a 7-9 or 8-8 record (past two seasons) it’s not that hard to imagine that the team won’t be any worse, though, is it? ;-) But anyway, yeah, good points. I honestly thought one piece I read in a preview magazine was written by Jamie Dukes.
by underdog on Jul 20, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones
I’d like to see the Broncos sign this guy. After playing QB at Arkansas, the Jags drafted him in the first round in 05 as a receiver. After three lackluster years, he was hearing the bust word. Then a year ago he got caught with cocaine (maybe that explains, to an extent, the lackluster thing). Went on the program and had a very good year in 08, until he got caught having a couple beers (while on league and court probation). I be he’s learned his lesson (Non means Non; Nada means Nada, etc). Some team is going to take a chance on the cheap and i bet it works out for that team.
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
by bradley on Jul 20, 2009 9:22 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He is an athlete
that is for sure.
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
Just click your heels together three times and say, "There's no player like Hillis... there's no player like Hillis."
by BroncTastic on Jul 20, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talent or not
given the Broncos situation with Marshall and McDaniels wanting to bring in character guys, I think there’s less than zero chance they’d sign him unless things got desperate. Don’t disagree that he deserves a chance with someone though.
by underdog on Jul 20, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit the button too fast...
I wonder if he is wanting more money than teams are willing to pay given his suspension risk (ala BMarsh)?
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
Just click your heels together three times and say, "There's no player like Hillis... there's no player like Hillis."
by BroncTastic on Jul 20, 2009 9:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No suspension risk
The league fined him but did not suspend him. Apparently that’s a closed issue. Jones is 6’6" and 230, runs a 4.4 40.
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
by bradley on Jul 20, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O.'s Show...
You’d have to pay me roughly his yearly salary to watch that crap. Pour tragically misunderstood guy…destroys teams wherever he goes and he just can’t comprehend why people don’t like him…
Maybe the Bills will give Vick a shot (if the Commish lets him play that is), seeing how they’ve already thrown this year away by signing Owens. Or maybe the Vikes, to go along with the Farve saga.
Man, to think that Elway was actually close to going to the Haiders…scary…!
Happy B-Day Casey and D.J.!
by Merlin Scott on Jul 20, 2009 10:10 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
As a Scientist
I always look for common variables. T.O + Eagles = Dysfunctional Team
T.O + SF 49ers Dysfunctional Team, T.O + Cowboys = Dysfunctional Team
I see a common thread, it is amazing that he doesn’t. I mean the guy must just figure that the only universal truth is that nobody can comprehend his greatness or something.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Jul 20, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats my Quarterback!
(Sniff,Sniff) Thats my Teammate!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 10:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
"Old apple dessert = lots of vomit. :("
by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 20, 2009 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, NYC.
"Old apple dessert = lots of vomit. :("
by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 20, 2009 11:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I still love hearing that Elway was almost a raider
just makes it all so much sweeter!
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
by Darin H on Jul 20, 2009 11:11 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to toot my own horn...
…but I did have that Legwold link in a FanShot a week ago.
"Any newspaperman who speaks of the 'music' of rolling presses is either faking or he has had so much to drink that he will next sentimentalize appendicitis."
-- Roger Kahn
by wtnelson on Jul 20, 2009 11:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think
your name was Elizabeth. Pancho or Lefty maybe, but certainly not Elizabeth. Lol
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that
Believe it or not, my name is actually Willie Nelson.
"Any newspaperman who speaks of the 'music' of rolling presses is either faking or he has had so much to drink that he will next sentimentalize appendicitis."
-- Roger Kahn
by wtnelson on Jul 20, 2009 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 20, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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