Horse Tracks 7/22/09 - Will BMarsh miss the first preseason game?
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 22, 2009 5:31 AM MDT
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DB - 2009 Position Previews: RB/FB
Zach Eisendrath previews the running backs. Not to toot my own horn, but I feel like I already read this somewhere...
PFT - Worlds set to collide for Brandon Marshall in mid-August
Will BMarsh's Atlanta court case prevent him from playing in the Broncos' first preseason game in August? Thanks again to Elizabeth for the link!
TJ - Making a good impression
Tom Brandstater dropped in on his high school's football practice on Monday.
ESPN - Mailbag - John Clayton
You know, I actually look at these columns now hoping there WON'T be mention of the Broncos. Clayton says Knowshon won't have a big year because the Broncos will be terrible. According to Clayton, "everyone's forecast (is that) the Broncos will be among the worst teams in the league."
INDT - Michael Vick thinking about a Rocky Mountain High?
Not sure where Hunter Ansley is hearing rumors about Vick and the Broncos, but he's not buying it. Jeez, I didn't think it was THAT hard to come up with writing topics...
FOX - Broncos' Moreno Signs Protective Apparel Endorsement
ESPN - Jeffri Chadiha examines LaDainian Tomlinson's mindset after turning 30
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : The blog is back
David White takes a quick look at Jokeland's QBs
KCS - Former Chief Holmes studies for a new career
NFL - With Vick out of federal custody, Goodell will rule on QB's future soon
NFL - Anthony joins Estefans as musicians who are Dolphins minority owners
NFL - Steelers QB Roethlisberger cancels press conference amid civil lawsuit
NFL - After signing with Falcons in June, OL Newberry retires due to bad knee
SI - J.P. Losman signs contract with Las Vegas team in UFL
This feels like Tommy Maddox going to the XFL. Hopefully it will bring similar results for Losman. Didn't people want the Broncos to trade half of a draft class for him a couple years ago? And then sign him this offseason?
Y! - Oscar-winning actor gets in ear of Ochocinco - Mike Silver
Apparently Denzel told Chad Johnson to quite being a baby, and it seems to have worked (so far).
NFP - Camp countdown: AFC South - Matt Bowen
ESPN - AFC North training camp preview
ESPN - NFC North training camp preview
CBS - Training camp battles: NFC East - Clark Judge
SI - Matt Cassel, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler latest QB saviors - Don Banks
FOX - Top training camp questions and predictions - John Czarnecki
NFP - Diner morning news: Spagnuolo’s first year - Mike Lombardi
NFLN - NFL Videos: 32 in 32: Pittsburgh Steelers
NFLN - NFL Videos: Evolving the Wildcat
Marshall Faulk discusses how rookie Pat White will make the Dolphins' offense more effective.
NFL - WR Holley wins Irvin's reality TV show, spot on Cowboys' 80-man roster
NFP - Turning one job into another - Jack Bechta
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Thanks, NYC.
"Old apple dessert = lots of vomit. :("
by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 22, 2009 5:35 AM MDT reply actions
John Clayton is a reporter...
which is to say that he asks people questions, and repeats what he is told. At some point, ESPN decided that he should be in the business of giving his opinion, but he’s not qualified to do so, because he doesn’t know football, only football scenery. I’ve said it before, but getting football information from a guy like Clayton is like buying books at Target. You only get the stuff that everybody knows (or thinks they know.)
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
Your definition of reporter sounds a lot like the definition of stenographer....
….Which is of course the point. Cheers.
John Clayton does not have the athletic acumen to even play backgammon....
Hes a hack…always has been, always will be. It makes the McCann award a joke in my eyes.
Thanks NYC as always!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
But of course KC Joyner is some athletic super stud we need to listen to because he hangs his hat on gobbledygook subjective stats like bad decision % and plays strung out.
Did you hear me support Joyner either????...ever!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
McGeorge, it's a perfectly valid stance that those stats aren't worth much to you
But just saying it over and over again doesn’t make it so for everyone else.
Personally I appreciate that Joyner went to the effort of actually watching film and generating these new metrics. There’s no argument that they’re subjective. There’s also no argument that the more traditional stats can be very misleading without context.
As for Clayton, I don’t care so much that he wasn’t ever an athlete, but I’ve never punched anyone in the face in my entire life, and every time I see Clayton’s face, I want to punch it…
Typical McGeorge
Same drivel he spouted on DP. Repetitive doomsayer.
I just would like to see guys like Clayton ACTUALLY look at what the Broncos are doing defensively . . . everything about them is different!!! The scheme, the players, the coaches . . . but being the hack that he is, he will never acknowledge it. None of the pundits will. Its sad to me that, I, a “non-expert” can see where the defense is going, understand the scheme, and understand the reason for acquiring the players the Broncos did.
Oh, and by the way, ShawnDenver, I am with you on your wanting to punch Clayton in the face. Everytime I see him on TV, I get this overwhelming sensation of “hammer” punching his “stork-looking” face! Only guy that has ever made me feel that angry . . . maybe I need therapy. :)
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
Of if you are saying NFL commentators must have athletic prowess in order to be heard, it stands to reason that you put stock in what ex-NFLers like Jamie Dukes, Warren Sapp and Wilcox report.
You know, since they are athletes and all.
As always McGeorge....
Your black and whiteness on issues is outstanding!
As with every reporter/ expert…..as Clayton purports to be……I would expect some research and some opinions formed on facts….thats all.
Do you have a problem with facts?
With regards to former athletes, the same applies.
What gets my goat with Clayton is that he likes to look at things from a players and coaches point of view, when he clearly has been neither in any walk of sport….for that opinion to count, in my book….yeah, he needs to have some athletic background.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Dude...enough with the flame-bait
If you think something like that, just ask…don’t sit there and try to put words in someone’s mouth.
I respect you McGeorge, but you lack seriously in the areas of class at times.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Let's just cut to the issue, McGeorge
You make no allowance for reality (Beyond Tyson Jackson (maybe) and B.J. Raji (maybe), the 3-4 dline prospects in the 2008 draft are everybit as questionable as, say, Ryan McBean, and McX was fresh out of Magic Fairy Dust to fix that in one offseason) or original thought (the idea behind MHR and bloggers like Joyner). You’re just buying off on the same drivel that the same people said about Atlanta (years and years away from being respectable even) and Miami (even worse than Atlanta) last year. Yet you simply wont move off the idea that there is possibility a more complicated problem than the defensive line here.
I respect your right to constantly doomsay, but I’d like to point out that you’ve made your point with me….and probably everybody else. I get that from your vantage point McX must either fix this team completely and immediately, and do so by your and the MSM standard plan, or that the Broncos will be embarassingly awful. I don’t agree, of course, but I respect the opinion. I even get that they might not be very good yet. I’m prepaired for it. Believe it or not, I expect that, in fact. I expect them to struggle still in 2009, yet I’m still excited about the future. Some of us think beyond this year and some of us were far less impressed with the last few Shanny teams than most, obviously.
The thing that you don’t seem willing to listen to is that this is a different team and scheme than we’ve seen in Denver for 20 years. There is simply no easy comparison to the personnel they had last year to how that will translate this year. As has been established, for example, the hosses along the front line of a typical Nolan scheme aren’t intended to be playmakers. If you have one that is capable of that, its gravy— its a luxury— but certainly not essential. They are intended to create playmaking opportunities for those guys behind them. Much effort and care has been make to insure that the guys behind the line are capable of contributing to this defense. Its the first step, and although it probably means that McX’s first defense will be a liability still, it has the look of being more sound already. Its not perfect. It can’t be. It doesn’t mean that McX is a failure for not being able to fix it overnight.
So, I guess we could have Ron Brace maybe. He just played along side the most dominant DT in college football last year and did nothing to really distinguish himself. He gets tired quick. He established that I guess. Other than that, he just shows nice size…like Carlton Powell, Ronald Fields, Mathius Askew, Chris Baker, etc, etc…. After Ron Brace, I don’t see a single better bet than what was already on the roster. That’s just my opinion, of course, but it doesn’t mean I forgot all my football in a zeal to get into bed with Josh MacDaniels. I’m glad that they took some time to listen deeper than how the pundits and the average Bronco fans view(ed) this team.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 22, 2009 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions 7 recs
tu no sabe?
the broncos are winning the superbowl!!
"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"
"Born like this / Into this"
by BroncoJoe311 on Jul 22, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Quesadilla policia!
Muy bueno et tu chiquito.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
It's "Wilcots".
And “Ayers.” No need to thank me, McGeorge. I’m still a giver.
hahahaha spot on JeffG
round of applause for you and correct spelling! haha.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
wow, they hate u more than me I'm pretty sure...
I would like to hear the list of reporters who’ve criticized our team and still meet the approval of the folks here!
Anybody?
by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 22, 2009 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Did you know???
That John Clayton reported back in the day that the Titanic was “unsinkable”… Honest to god truth!
For those fantasy nuts out there (can’t wait myself), a lot of the “rags” are knocking us too… We’re the popular team to pile on this year. I say, bring it on.
Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.
John C. Calhoun --
and we appear to have a very
…um….responsive?…fan base. I honestly think they laugh themselves to sleep, knowing how seriously we take all this garbage, and how little it truly matters to them.
Famous line from Howard Roark applies here:
Dean: Why don’t you tell me what you think of me, in any words you wish."
Roark: But I don’t think of you.
Note: this cuts both ways guys….
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
"Note: this cuts both ways guys…."
Really. By responding to their stuff, you are validating them – just more “hits” on their web site, so to speak. Remember, silence is deafening.
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
But...
If enough people believe in Clayton and the likes, maybe Moreno will still be there when i draft the last player in the first round in my Dynasty League. Now wouldn’t that be something?
Good luck, man!
I’ve got the fourth pick in my keeper league (I’m currently in year one of a five year rebuilding plan…), so my chances are decent:
First pick is a 9ers fan; most likely pick will be Crabtree.
Second pick is a Chefs fan…don’t know where that pick will go, but I doubt it will be Moreno
Third pick is the tough one…my dad, another Bronco fan. Hopefully he hasn’t done his homework, and Moreno will be mine…
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
I need to get in the leagues you guys are in
Cause I could put some great teams together if you guys are seriously considering taking Moreno in the 1st round. Big mistake. I think he’ll be great, but I wouldn’t risk anything higher than a 5th for him (and then only if I’m short on RB).
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
They're dynasty leagues
Each team in my league gets 9 keepers every year (with some other requirements). The draft is more about filling bench spots and picking up rookies. So, really, Round One is kinda like the 10th round of the drafts, only with a few quality players that fell through the cracks and all the new rookies.
In other words, Moreno is a solid first round pick for me!
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
Ah ha!
Now I see said the blind man to his deaf daughter as he picked up his hammer and saw.
:)
That makes much more sense.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Sad Day
I load up MHR and am greeted with this ad banner? Wow, is even the internet against us now?!?!?
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
Oops.
Thanks Nyc
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Clayton..............
Needs to give up reporting and go back to playing with His Star Wars action figures!
For some reason
Now I’ve got images of “Spaceballs” in my head.
Just watch out for that space herpe.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 22, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I guess this picture of John Clayton after the Cutler trade
sums it all up — I picture him looking like this every time he thinks about the Broncos, which means his judgment is clouded.
Sounds like Clayton...
Can go ahead and stop covering the Broncos this year. I mean, we already know how they’re going to do, how the season is going to end so there’s no need to bother reporting on them. Wow, this will save a lot of time!
See you at the beach, John!
who wants to see Clayton at the beach???? No thanks!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Unless he is stuck in the sand up to his neck.
Now that would be funny.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Thanks NYC
Well if Marshall ends up missing a preseason game then so be it. That is on him and I would rather see him miss a preseason game than a regular season game so we’ll see what happens.
On John Clayton, well I think several people here said what I was thinking. I didn’t even consider reading that article because I just don’t care what he has to say. I will listen to NFL players more than him.
The UFL? I am interested to see if this actually lasts more than one season like the XFL. I am shocked it is during the NFL season. I mean will people actually watch those games over the NFL?
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
that's what i was thinking too
I mean thursday, Saturday and Sunday have NFL and College games. No one is going to switch channels from a NFL or College game to watch a new league. Especially when the league has the stigma of being comprised of players that can’t hack it in the NFL. So what day do you play your games on?
I’d be more on board with it, if it was set up like NFL europe or AAA baseball and was a farm league for NFL teams. Atleast I’d have a small vested interest to see if Denver has any hidden gems.
I find it amusing
that there have been so many attempts at founding another professional football league to compete with the NFL. The American Football League came along at a time when salaries were low and contracts were more slanted toward ownership. How (and why) anyone could think that could be replicated today is a real mystery. Not that I wouldn’t support it — I just can’t see why anyone would think it remotely feasible. It’s a little different than setting up a new company to compete with Walmart.
And why doesn’t anyone try to set up a rival basketball league? Or baseball league? It’s just crazy. And in the end, it’s ultimately just a get rich scheme that fails every time.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Baseball...
…has its minor leagues and people make good money selling tickets to games not involving the elite of the elite. The same is true in hockey. In fact, I probably enjoyed the Grizzlies almost as much as the Avalanche for a fraction of the price. You really have to understand what your looking at to distinguish the quality of play at AAA baseball or the highest hockey minor leagues, so its a product that is appealing to the average fan.
I think the problem is that the NFL won’t play ball with an upstart that could serve as a feeder system. The people who keep trying must figure that if they can find a legitimacy out there, they can eventually work with the NFL and everybody can have extra nickles to scratch together. Its probably the same philosiphy that drove the ill fated dot.com rage— build a product, find a way to legitimize it, and then sell the whole shabang to the NFL as a future minor league.
Its a theory, at least.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 22, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
The only shot they have....
is if there were a major strike or hold out and even then it is unlikely to compete with the NFL. It is surpising that they are actually able to find investers for a new league. It’s an inferior product, end of story! Don’t try and sell me a vhs player when I can go get a blue-ray!
by Vandylaxn21 on Jul 22, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
That is so true
People out there see how successful the NFL is and want to have a league for their own. They try everything they can however nobody really want a VHS anymore.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
And the funn thing
is that UFL only has four teams: Las Vegas, San Francisco, New York, and Orlando. Looks like all the teams make the Conference Finals…..LOL.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Hmmm.
we can either go see the Rolling Stones at Red Rocks OR go see a Rolling Stones cover-band at the town fair….tough call!
by Vandylaxn21 on Jul 22, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I've always liked that KettleCorn!
Besides, who needs “real” guitars anyways?
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
Haha..
the Stones cover band playing the town fair could use them, they need the practice! Not me though, I can play Purple Haze on expert! But adding sugar to perfectly good salty popcorn is just criminal and down right Un-American!
LOL
And they’re all division champions every year! What fan wouldn’t support THAT! lmao
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 22, 2009 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks NYC..
While the Clayton drivel is wearing thin, I found the Banks piece on QB saviors and Czarnecki’s training camp questions and predictions good reads.
Just typical "talking points"
Has John Clayton noticed that NOT ONE of the players on the broncos roster has spoken out against the so called “mistakes” that are being made in Denver? Everyone wants to talk about the terrible precedent that the broncos have set by trading Jay Cutler, yet with the exception of B-Marsh, not one player has expressed publically a desire to be traded. And it’s now obvious that Brandon’s request is purely based on money,
104.3 The Fan
Ebenezer Ekuban was on The Fan yesterday and had some very insightful things to say about the current Bronco roster, and in particular, the Head Coach. He said that McDaniels is one of the most professional men he has met, intense, and definitely knows the game of football. As a matter of fact, he couldn’t stop gushing about how impressed he is with the entire staff. What I found amazing about his comments is that he was cut by this same head coach!!!
I take HIS word over Clayton, Wilcots, Dukes, Paige, and all other moronic MSM-types.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
blah
I just started to post the same thing, went to login and you already said it =)
by Todd Jewell on Jul 22, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
This proves it!
So contrary to popular belief (the msm), the Broncos management isn’t exactly like the ownership of the Cleveland Indians in the movie Major Leauge hahaha
by Vandylaxn21 on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
ha
there interesting part is that the interview is coming from a guy let go by McDaniels
by Todd Jewell on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
I believe Ekuban also said it would be several years before we were good, which does not conflict with what Clayton said.
by Broncos_FTW on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
"one of the worst teams in the league"
Is what Clayton said.
Not the same.
Ekuban said he'd give them 2 or 3 years
because it takes awhile to implement a new system. But he definitely came across as impressed with the potential he saw.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 22, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Follow up
Here is a link to the Ekuban interview from yesterday. At the 6:11 mark left in the interview, he speaks about the coach and the Denver Broncos. He even compares Cutler to Jeff George. Good stuff!
http://www.fm1043thefan.com/channels/audioOnDemand/Story.aspx?ID=1117334
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
Thanks for the link
This is why I listen to players and not the likes of all these “experts” Very interesting take on comparing him to Jeff George. Nice to see even players McD cuts have respect for him and would play hard for him if given the chance. ESPN who?
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Thanks Todd
You beat me to it. :)
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
Awesome news
It’s great to hear those things from Ekuban, it makes me even more excited for this season to start! If ESPN and the NFL Network weren’t vehemently against objective reporting, then maybe they would mention the Ekuban interview!
Most interesting?
Al notes that the perfect QB for McDaniels’ system would be Drew Brees.
— Who played the spread at Purdue. Like another QB. Who the Broncos got as a throw in in the Cutler trade.
Just sayin’.
Actually no, NYC, this RB analysis does NOT remind me of yours . . .
Yours is far better. I get the feeling the writer on the Broncos site can’t say just everything he wants because it is the Broncos’ site. (And he isn’t the writer you are, frankly.) I read that report a day or two ago and immediately thought I got a better one at MHR.
But then, that’s the usual case . . . 
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
Wow, thanks AZD. I did have the same feeling while reading it, that he couldn’t write everything he wanted to. It would feel pretty rotten to have to do a writeup of the RBs and not be able to mention the Arrington sign/release or any other negative issues. I mean, we can be pro-Broncos and wear orange-colored shades without being 100% positive. Thank goodness for MHR!
Appreciate the kind words.
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 22, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
"one of the worst teams in the league"???
Everyone is certainly entitled to predict the Broncos final wins and losses for 2009. However, if I’m going to place any credibility I think I’ll go with the Vegas odds. I’m not a gambler but they do put their money where their mouth is. Denver Broncos…last month over/under was 7.5 wins…today is 8.0 wins. Obviously the odds went up because more bettors were taking the over. Eight wins doesn’t make Denver “one of the worst teams”…could even get them into the playoffs!
by St. James Bronc on Jul 22, 2009 12:02 PM MDT reply actions
How much you wanna bet...
…that Dukes, Clayton, and Wilcots are taking the over.
Maybe it pays to drag a team’s name and reputation through the mud during the off season, after all!
Jamie Dukes is a moron...here's my proof.
http://www.youtube.com/v/AuSD9FX_HrU
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
Who cares what that nerd john clayton says
He probably never even played football and can even throw the ball ten yards
Mile High Salute
I H8 Clayton and am loathe to bring this up but...
Clayton’s assessment is moronic and without merit but the extracted and enhanced version of the blog entry herein is just like throwing out red meat and I think we all get riled up plenty at the mere mention of Clayton’s name without coaxing.
Clayton entry:
If everyone’s forecast that the Denver Broncos will be among the worst teams in the league is correct, Moreno will have a hard time getting second-half carries in what is a crowded backfield.
The extracted and enhanced quote:
According to Clayton, “everyone’s forecast (is that) the Broncos will be among the worst teams in the league.”
Clayton’s original statement pisses me off and I would not have given his site the courtesy of a webpage click if not for how it was rephrased.
broncorat
Umm, I didn't change the message at all
In fact, I think I went out of my way to make it clear that Clayton was relating that other people ("everyone") are forecasting that the Broncos will be among the worst teams. In no way did I assign that opinion to Clayton. As usual, Clayton is just summing up what other “experts” say, which is rather amateurish.
It’s sort of like saying “If all those people are right about the world ending next year, then Knowshon Moreno is never going to reach the age of 25.”
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 23, 2009 7:39 AM MDT up reply actions
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