Horse Tracks 7/28/09 - Brandon has a case of the Mondays

DB - Back in Action
So, BMarsh showed up to camp. However, everything out of his mouth is an "I" rather than a "We" - "I'm on track to do some big things and hopefully I can get to the playoffs and win some games."
DB - Monday: Marshall - Broncos TV
Brandon does not look happy in the least. Hopefully that will change as he gets into the flow and is surrounded by teammates.
DB - Monday: McDaniels - Broncos TV
McD's presser. He's pleased with the players' conditioning and thinks Brandon Marshall has plenty of time to learn the playbook. Lots of dumb questions about BMarsh. Frankly, this is a hard one to watch.
DB - Monday: Orton - Broncos TV
Kyle Orton says the QBs need the "extra mental work" that comes along with their early arrival. He's also happy to be getting most of the snaps and work towards being a leader for the Broncos.
DB - 2009 Position Previews: Quarterbacks
DB - Monday Practice Report
Photos and a few details from practice.
DP - Sign of times: Moreno, Ayers fail to report
McD says it's all about Friday; that's when the coaches will start installing the offense and defense, with no turning back.
DP - Kiszla: B-Marsh's attitude doesn't make cents
Kiszla thinks Marshall needs to show better focus and effort if he's to prove himself worthy of a raise.
DP - Marshall reports for training camp - Mike Klis
DP - Broncos' McDaniels not talking about Marshall
CSG - Marshall reports to Broncos camp for rehab - Frank Schwab
DP - Day 1: More media than players - Lindsay Jones
CSG - True camp deadline is Friday
RMI - Early Broncos prediction: 10-6 - Steve Foster
DP - Xanders talks with agent McGuire
Klis needs to stick with the day job and forget the gig as a comedian...
DB - Training Camp Has Arrived
Details on how DB.com will cover Training Camp '09.
SN - NFL Team Reports: AFC West - The Trenches
Lee Rasizer expects the RB competition will be the Broncos' fiercest.
KCS - Haley won’t start out calling plays for Chiefs
SDUT - Rivers looks to fine-tune his short game
SDUT - Enthusiastic Merriman back in action
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : DHB update, precamp thoughts
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Mitchell deal all but done
SFG - Raiders training camp roster
PFW - Can Favre be happy with handoffs?
Anonymous thoughts on several issues from NFL personnel around the league.
SI - Darren McFadden and Reggie Bush among NFL training camp buzz - John P. Lopez
NFP - Seven steps to overexposure
Ray Gustini offers a perfect set of guidelines for rookies to make a big deal of themselves in the NFL.
NFL - Top stories to follow as camps begin - Vic Carucci
NFP - Rookie contracts: Part 3 - Andrew Brandt
NFP - Diner morning news: Tampa's young coach - Mike Lombardi
ESPN - NFL Power Rankings
Denver comes in at #27, down from their previous #25 ranking based upon who-knows-what.
CBS - Training camp battles: NFC West - Clark Judge
NYT - Statistics Show There’s No Harm in Starting a Rookie Quarterback - Brian Burke
NFL - Camp tour: Owens, Bills embrace fresh start in upstate N.Y. - Vic Carucci
NFL - Ian Johnson trying to juke odds in attempt at making Vikings' roster - Steve Wyche
NYT - Lab Results: Titans and Haynesworth - KC Joyner
NFL - Report: Manhattan district attorney wants jail time for Burress
NFL - Commissioner Goodell reinstates ex-Falcons QB Vick on conditional basis
NFP - Vick needs time and a team - Matt Bowen
Y! - Vick deserves reinstatement and missed games - Jason Cole
NFL - Goodell's decision balances what's good for the league and for Vick - Thomas George
PFW - Handicapping the chase for Vick
ESPN - Goodell ruling fails Vick, players - Howard Bryant
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Awesome NYC...Thanks.
interesting point on Orton: The only training camp he has attended as bona fide starter. That just puts his record and performance in Chicago in an even better light.
How good can he be if he gets all the necessary reps he needs???
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 28, 2009 6:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Depth Chart.
So, if they’ll start installing the new schemes in earnest come Friday, does that means we’ll have our first clear idea of the depth chart? I have to imagine that this would mean at least knowing who fits into what new position, at least in a more general sense. If I missed the boat on this clarification (I know a lot of educated speculation has been done) about our roster, then please feel free to clue me. I’m excited to know who is playing where, why and how they’re looking. Go Broncos!
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 28, 2009 6:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points EJ...I would be interested too!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 28, 2009 6:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ej
McDaniels addresssed this in his discussion, however briefly. He said that he will be plugging different people into different slots to familiarize them with the schemes, but indicated that nothing was etched in stone yet, so there isn’t much worry about what a depth chart does or doesn’t say right now. Since this is the first year of a new ‘regime’ relatively few players have a defined position compared to a normal training camp. When they have the pads on for a few practices and the coaches get to see how players hit, more will become established, but right now, most of the battles that all of us are interested in – DL, safety, CB, LB – are just beginning. Man, this is exciting!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 28, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Nyc
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 28, 2009 7:12 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
HCMcD said WW had an offseason surgery. I must of missed that amongst all the hubbub. What’d he get?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
BM needs to be gone.
I’m thinking have the scouting department project the most hopeless franchise in the NFL. Get that GM on the phone and have him indentifiy his most expendable player. Trade BM for that guy (who knows maybe we can get Marquand Manual or Nate Webster back that way). That way, you do the enduring inregity of the Broncos logo and uniform a favor. You keep women safe across the metro area. And most importantly, we don’t have to watch a grown man try so hard to act like one, yet continue to fail miserably at it. The guy isn’t worth the potential wins he brings to the table. Let him continue to embarass himself on another orginization’s time and reputation.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 7:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I have felt that way for a long time. I thought he would show up to camp but My thoughts were always was it good for the team. “I” instead of “we” means his over inflated ego is getting in the way. He has been listening to the crap that spews out of the NFLN.
by papasteven on Jul 28, 2009 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its the passive agressive angst...
…that broke this camel’s back.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was hilarious reading the DB website author attempt to tip-toe around the BM debacle.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 7:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t envy the guys who have to write that way and ignore anything negative…
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly why I don’t believe ONE WORD I hear out of Dove Valley or any other NFL organization for that matter.
“The players are motivated”. “The players are coming together as a team”. “The chemistry is good”. Blah blah blah. Win some games to prove it.
As Pork Chop said “there are plenty of disgruntled players in the NFL”. Bronco fans are naive and spoiled if they think Denver is immune to what happens in every other locker room in the NFL. I can guarantee you BM is not the only unhappy Bronco but I can also guarantee you that there are unhappy players on every roster in the NFL.
Stop crying and bellyaching over BMs attitude. He showed up didn’t he. That is more than I can say for Ayres and Moreno. Maybe some of you should freak out over those two not reporting because Crabtree is screwing up the rookie contract talks. It’s the NFL and it’s a business above all else. If you guys love rah rah so much, go watch high school volleyball where a team high fives after every single stoppage (whether they scored or the other did team).
BM doesn’t need to give The Coach the time of day, but BM does need to do his job well.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, McGeorge
You’re still crying over milk spilt months ago. I’m not sure your the moral authority on hang ups, hand wringing, and common sense around here.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that puts you and I in the same boat then. Here is a paddle. -—))
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly....
…the point being, we all have our hangups and tunnel vision. I have many. I spend way too much time being hyper-rational and responsible in my real life, so I’ll let my heart to the thinking in this venue.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you paddle on the left and I’ll take the right. It brings needed balance.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damned demonstrative fans
I say shoot the whole lot of em. Who needs fans rah rahing and acting silly? Y’all need to grow up and act like responsible adults while you’re watching (or thinking about) the Broncos. Whaddaya think this is, a Broncos’ blog site or something?
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Jul 28, 2009 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about players Spock, not fans. I would think a smart guy like you would have picked that up. Guess not.
Fans can do whatever they feel like. On this site, that means throwing a hissy fit every time Clayton, Dukes or Wilcox say anything about the Broncos. There was at least 10+ fan posts dedicated to this endeavor including those that wrote the NFL network to express their angst. I find it as amusing as you guys must when I express my feelings about The Coach vs Cutler or his handing of the Alphonso Smith trade. To each Bronco fan his own.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair point
Although, speaking for myself, the reason I throw a “hissy fit” (I’d use the term “keeping them honest”, but it doesn’t really apply) is because the sports news audience is pretty huge and not many of those folks have any reason question what they’re hearing. I’ve found this offseason to be pretty eye-opening
I’m sorry but, with all due respect to dispassionate discourse, if a television personality badmouths my team and makes up stuff that isn’t true and doesn’t bother to back it up, I’ll feel free to call shenanigans, thanks.
And I don’t find your feelings amusing, except when you intend them to be. I think you have raised some perfectly valid points. I wouldn’t call those hissy fits, either.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
urgghh. I need to write when I’m not multitasking. Apologies if none of the above makes sense, folks. : /
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Human ancestry is showing Spock.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked to see Moreno and Ayers there as a sign of good faith that their contracts would get done; however, I think that players that don’t have a contract aren’t willing to take any extra risk of injury without a sig on the dotted line. It’s a totally different situation than Marshall who is under contract.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrong...
… but I think the contract between the owners and the Players Union doesn’t allow them to show up. And I don’t think they’re covered by insurance if they get hurt. So it’s a smart thing to do.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well…I thought about that too. However, they do participate in the OTAs if I’m not mistaken. So I’m not sure how that works.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They cannot participate
Rookies CANNOT participate in official team practices without a formal contract. OTA’s are Optional and do not require a formal contract to participate. It has to do with insurance and liability.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
by HSFBCoach on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Addition
Trying to find some firm info, but here’s what I have in memory (may not be 100% accurate):
Players that are already under contract have liability protection built into their contracts, so they’re good. Anyone else participating in OTAs and Minicamps receive “generic” contracts that cover liablity and compensation while that player is participating in the activities. However, those generic contracts do not extend into training camp. From a liability and compensation angle, I don’t believe teams would even let an unsigned rookie into camp for legal reasons. Until a deal is done, rookies are not allowed to attend camp.
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
by Disco_Stu on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
If Marshall doesn’t want to listen to the coach and wants to go to the press and air all his grievances, get rid of him once you get value. Seems he can run. Hurdle one cleared. If he performs well at training camp (physically), the next hurdle is the August trial.
After that, if teams want to give up a 1 and a 3 — or a pair of twos (one being relatively low) — take the deal. If his value isn’t that high and he’s still bellyaching, sit him.
The coach needs to control the team. The team needs to want to play for the coach. McGeorge is always pretending that his “it’s a business”-cynicism trumps airy-fairy concepts like “team chemistry” and marks him a “realist,” while those who believe in the team concept (which includes chemistry, selflessness, and playing for your coach) and believe in its directed implementation, are “naive” idealists.
Being skeptical about what comes out of Dove Valley is one thing; making it a point of faith not to believe a single word is to turn pessimism into a religion.
by JeffG on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Church of Pessimism
Being skeptical about what comes out of Dove Valley is one thing; making it a point of faith not to believe a single word is to turn pessimism into a religion.
Does that make Dukes, Wilcots, Clayton, Paige, etc. the Religion of Pessimism leaders? Shall I pay them tythings? Can I write these donations off on my 1040? :)
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
by HSFBCoach on Jul 28, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if
you believe that what they’re saying holds any holy water.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darn
Guess I am not a “true believer.” Anything they say holds poop . . . not holy water.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
by HSFBCoach on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that make it 'holy crap?"
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 28, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Water
Even if its crap if you boil the hell out of it, it’ll be holy Water
"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me
by 3nS on Jul 28, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did not show up today!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 28, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like there could be a long wait on Moreno, Ayers, and the other unsigned 1st rounders in the league.
From today’s SF Chronicle, “first-round pick Michael Crabtree is asking for an exorbitant amount as the 10th overall player chosen. It could mean a long holdout for the Texas Tech wide receiver.”
The DP reported yesterday that the league and the agents are waiting on the Crabtree deal to set the bar for the rest of the contracts. Let’s hope SF doesn’t cave and somehow gets this thing resolved quickly (like next couple of days quickly) or we might see long holdouts across the NFL.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Link:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?&entry_id=44396
A little more from that article:
The 49ers have the leverage here. They already have Josh Morgan, Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, etc. They functioned just fine in OTA’s with Crabtree on the sidelines with a foot injury. There’s no rush on the 49ers’ part to get Crabtree signed. Crabtree’s asking price is also a little bit of a slap in the face for the 49ers and somewhat disingenuous. Obviously, agent Eugene Parker believes he can get the 49ers to capitulate. After all, many would argue they over paid for Alex Smith (twice) Justin Smith and Nate Clements to name a few.
Another question seems relevant – why would Crabtree make such a stand? Particularly after Mike Singletary told the media the story of pulling Crabtree out of practice because he wasn’t yet medically cleared to participate. Singletary said Crabtree nearly teared up after being told to sit by Singletary. If Crabtree is so emotionally eager to play, why would he make such high contract demands? How is that going to play in the 49ers’ locker room?
Why is it always the WRs?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if . . .
all the other 1st rounders were to sign contracts before Crabtree? Would that give SF more leverage since they could then base their argument on the amount the 1st rounders around Crabtree signed for (i.e. the average is less, so the amount Crabtree should be asking for is less . . . if that makes sense)?
Also, if most of these 1st rounders are represented by one Agency (as I have read on here), can’t the NFL file a grievance against the agency and take them to court for collusion (sp?)? This is effecting the finances of a lot of NFL teams.
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
by HSFBCoach on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully the other rookies do sign before Crabtree; however, according to yesterday’s DP article that sounds unlikely.
I have no idea if the NFL could sue the agency, but I doubt it. They’ll probably just take care of it in the new CBA.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this Crabtree guy setting himself up to fail or what. I heard he wasn’t too popular in San Frans locker room before this contract mess. At this rate, that dude stands as good a chance of getting tattooed in practice as he does in week one.
There is no shortage of WR drama in the NFL.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god it's not all ours. ; )
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the setting himself up
I’d love to see him in the first pre-season game and Dawkins tattoos him. Welcome to the NFL rookie. I’d love it
by papasteven on Jul 28, 2009 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Players
I think most players and most teams want things resolved before training camp. So I foresee teams and players starting to come to rational agreements even without Crabtree. Crabtree will eventually get what he deserves which is a lot less than what he thinks he deserves.
"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me
by 3nS on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I may be making this up; however, I think I read somewhere that part of the problem is that all these players have the same agent/agency representing them. Therefore, it’s not the teams or players holding things up but rather the agents, who may not be too concerned with ‘rational agreements’.
We need a rookie cap ASAP!
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on the rookie cap idea.
Vets deserve to get paid more and unproven rookies need to pan out before they get paid. The system is BROKEN right now.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just look at Ja'Marcus Russell . . . can you say overpaid bust?
"The men who have done big things are those who are not afraid to attempt big things, who were not afraid to risk failure in order to gain success."
- B.C Forbes
by HSFBCoach on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don’t forget that the big $$$s are killing the bottom rung teams. High value rookies are supposed to help the cellar dwellers, not keep them in perpetual financial limbo.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, cap the rooks
It’s insane that a guy that’s never played ONE SECOND in the NFL makes more than many vets that have proven themselves. Cap the rookies!!
by AllBroncsallday on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree. The rookies will come to their senses as real training camp approaches.
I thought the idea of a rookie camp would prompt rookies to sign on time. Instead, it looks like the rookie camp is viewed as nothing more than optional orientation for the 1st rounders. If the 1st rounders start missing regular training camp, then its time to worry.
A rookie cap will solve all these problems.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe McD is holding onto BM
to use him as a decoy? $2.x million for a half-hearted decoy of his magnitude is not a bad bargain.
Teams may not offer a lot in trade for him right now, but I’ll bet they’ll damn sure still tailor their game plans to him.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 9:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
tailor their game plans to defend against him, I mean.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd go with a sassy chick at CB.
Draw some personal fouls…distract the child to know end.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
‘To no end.’ is what I meant.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
Maybe a cop at strong safety and a lawyer at free safety?
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something interesting from the MSM
Watching ESPN apparently BM was targeted 174 times last season. 14 more times than Andre Johnson who was number 2 and who had more receptions TDs, yards etc.
Of course ESPN’s spin is that “Brandon Marshall is a critical cog in the Denver Broncos Offense” My spin is no wonder he wants out. If he is targeted a reasonable amount of times (around 120 or so) he will only get about 70-75 receptions. (174 times targeted, 104 receptions 59% targeted caught) and all of a sudden everyone will realize that he benefited by Cutler locking on to him too much.
Too bad other teams are smart enough to see this and think about the fact that he still has a pending court date. I would love some of the trade offers the MSM has made for him. Right now a smart team would offer a 2nd round pick and maybe a role player. And it is probable the 2nd round pick would be conditional upon how much Marshall plays in 2009.
by Arimaris on Jul 28, 2009 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's true
Chibronx did an excellent analysis of Marshall’s On-Field Problems that discusses that very thing- great read.
by AllBroncsallday on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 steps to overexposure
was a bit of fun this morning. Thanks, NYC, for sifting through all the stories and pulling out the good ones for us!
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
Just click your heels together three times and say, "There's no player like Hillis... there's no player like Hillis."
by BroncTastic on Jul 28, 2009 11:45 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the Horse Tracks, NYC.
"Keel?"
by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2009 12:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Don Banks - MSM
Don Banks, not yet known at MHR as MSM lemming (give it time) put five teams (seven Bronco games) below Denver in his initial power rankings.
He ranked Denver 23rd.
I know several people at MHR like to hedge their all-in bet on The Coach by pointing out how hard the 2009 schedule is, but if you put any stock into power rankings, Denver is playing seven games against Bottom 10 NFL teams in 2009 (KC, Raiders, Cleve, Cincy, Redskins). That is nearly half our schedule.
by McGeorge on Jul 28, 2009 3:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
McG, I know you enjoy throwing us all into certain buckets, but it’s not that simple. Banks is good at his job and takes it seriously. And who in the world puts stock into the power rankings of sportswriters?
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 29, 2009 5:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we could all be like McGeorge
You know, realists who know that the Broncos will suck and will just get with the program and ADMIT THAT McRUINEDTHEFRANCHISE is, like, Mcruining the franchise.
Then he’d be happy and on his way, and peace would settle over Bronco nation.
by JeffG on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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