Knowshon's Upcoming Payday
In the next few days, Knowshon Moreno will sign his 1st Professional Contract and join his teammates in Training Camp (Hurray!). Lets take a look at some numbers to figure out our young Running Backs Contract value.
Last years #12 Pick was our own Ryan Clady. On 7/25/2008, he signed a 6 year, $14.75 million contract. The deal includes $11.415 million guaranteed. Another $2.55 million is available through incentives. 2009: $2,141,250, 2010:$2,569,500, 2011:$2,997,750, 2012:$1.994 million (Voidable Year). In 2013, Ryan will become a FA.
The Panthers drafted RB Jonathan Stewart at #13 in 2008. On 7/26/2008 he signed a 5 year, $14 million contract. His deal included $10.795 million guaranteed. Another $6 million is available through incentives.2009:$2,743,750, 2010:$2,092,500, 2011:$2,441,250, 2012:$2,790,000, 2013: Free Agent.
I included Stewart here because he is a RB and the draft range is so close that it has value looking at the numbers.
For 1st round picks, the increases in bonus amounts are typically in the 8 to 12% range. In round numbers, the current signing bonus amounts for a 2nd round selection is $1.8 million on a 4 year deal, which most teams are now routinely using. That would make the 1st round bonus average around $3.2 Million.
Knowshon figures to get a deal that approaches 6 years at $20.68 Million with around $14.25 Million Guaranteed. Don't forget that Signing Bonus, and incentives such as Rookie Of the Year, 100+ carries, 1000+ yards, Pro Bowl appearances, League Leader in rush yards, 10+ TD's....and you begin to get the picture.
#10 pick Michael Crabtree is holding up negotiations for the other draft picks to sign their contracts. Some Draft "expert" claimed he should have been drafted at the 3rd pick position and that apparently convinced young Michael that he is worth 3rd pick money. I can't envision any NFL team overpaying a Gimpy Receiver that kind of Green.
In 2008, the #3 Pick was Matt Ryan. He was signed to a 6 year contract with an overall value of $72 million and $34.75 million in guaranteed money. Accordingly, the #10 Pick in 2008 was Jerod Mayo. He signed a 5 year deal(rather than the 6 year maximum allowed by the NFL's CBA) worth $18.9 million, including $13.8 million in bonuses and guarantees. That is a lot of Cabbage to dicker about.
In figuring the deals in the 1st round, the numbers used were from the 2008 draft. On a 4 year contract, the minimum salaries for each player are locked in at the following numbers for this year:
2009: $310,000
2010: $395,000
2011: $480,000
2012: $565,000
So before any bonus discussion, the player is assured of a contract worth $1.45 Million minimum value, although not guaranteed.
The negotiation of hard numbers becomes all about the signing bonus, except for the 2nd round, which due to the rookie pool, causes teams to shield part of the guaranteed amount as a one- time incentive; using the easiest categories allowable for the player to earn their incentive money. This prevents it from counting against the pool number.
In virtually every round, the "backside" of the contract becomes a secondary but important negotiation. An escalator outlines how a player will be paid in the 4th year, in the event he reaches certain performance levels. These are based on when he achieves certain levels of performance and what levels of performance are set as qualifiers.
Some teams will use a 2nd level escalator; a higher dollar amount based on superior performance such as a Pro Bowl or more playtime. If the player is involved in say 80% of the plays, he should be compensated accordingly. There are currently around 10 teams that use 2nd level escalators based on meeting playtime and performance goals.
The theory of the 2nd-level escalator is that, although it is certainly a tall task for an incoming player to make a Pro Bowl or cumulative playtime of 80%, the lure of a higher bonus escalator is one that’s a nice incentive for a player to have, no matter how hard it is to attain.
As to how high, these 2nd-level escalators usually raise the 4th year to the 2nd-round Restricted FA tender, which is estimated to be $2 million in 2012.
The point of the above is that each team is different and there is no standardization in these rookie contracts, making the negotiation much more about the "backside" of the contract than the signing bonus.
Negotiations are all about 2 things: leverage and risk. The escalator is way to allocate risk in a player contract negotiation, incentivizing the player’s upside while protecting the team’s downside with a fourth year of the contract buying out the vagaries of RFA.
The Rushing Leaders 2008 and their Salaries.
1. Adrian Peterson 2009: $755,000 + $1.555 million roster bonus (1760 yards in 2008)
2. Michael Turner 2009: $1 million
3. DeAngelo Williams 2009: $645,000
4. Clinton Portis 2009: $745,000
5. Thomas Jones 2009: $900,000 + $100,000 workout bonus
Now, this has relevance in, that if KM is among the league leaders in rushing, it would stand to reason, that he would like or maybe even deserve to be paid accordingly. If I'm Moreno's agent, I'm going to want an escalator that pays my client a $500,000 bonus for rushing 1500 yards or more in one year. That plus his minimum salary would put him in the earning range of the top RB's. If he acheives that status, he gets paid for it, and if he doesn't, the team doesn't overpay for a poor performing player. A definite win/win situation for the negotiators.
All I have left to say is; Crabtree, stop being a Diva so my Running Back can get to Camp!
Sources: National Football Post , Rotoworld
This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR
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Kirk
Good read. This is a part of the NFL I usually don’t explore. It’s cool to see the members of MHR bring different styles, takes, and stats!!! Stay cool!
you're doing great Kap'n
solid post and nice signoff!
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM MDT reply actions
Nice job KK!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Thank you guys
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Dont blame Crabtree!
Knowshon is a big boy. He needs to be at camp period. If his agent can’t get it done then can his a%% and get another. Sign the freakin deal and get to camp…..West Coast
I tend to agree.
At least up to the fire the agent part. His ballpark salary is inevitable— as so nicely illustrated by KK— and at a certain time its in his best interest to submit to the reality of history and get to work.
I’m betting both deals get done today or by tomorrow morning. But I am a homer optimist….
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 30, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions
But I am a homer optimist
me too PdO!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Great info Kirk
Incentivization – I like that word, or as you put it, incentivize….
Good stuff and I have to agree with WC and PO, both Moreno and Ayers have a GREAT idea of their ballpark value and should ignore other people’s “standards” and get what they feel is worth their efforts more or less, regardless of what ‘others’ get/have gotten – to a point of course, still considering their feel of their own ballpark value.
It is hard when so many people set their own standards based on other people’s… It’s kind of like learning to draw. First one learns to color (filling in lines) and once that skill has progressed enough, it’s natural to not want to continue ‘coloring within the lines’ that others have created, but to make your own lines. In life you learn by what other’s standards are, but once your social/ethical/moral/personal understanding ‘skills’ if you will, grow to a certain point, it is natural to create one’s own standards to ‘stay in the lines’ of.
Or maybe not.
; ) Thanks again Kaptain!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 AM MDT reply actions
Waxing poetic on me.
Now I know you’ve been listening to Eddie and the boys. Thanks PJ.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 30, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Great post KK and an area of that I can't "PAY" attention to.
It boggles my mind at the money these players make, probably more in one year than I make in a life time. Then Reebok signs him to to a deal. To many distractions from the things he needs to do. I would probably, but don’t know, say around 15 mil and some incentatives. I personally would also have incentatives for the teams sake, such as getting arrested, suspensions, and such. Look at Moss, I don’t know how much he received for being the #17 pick in the first round, but he hasn’t given back to the team yet either. Things like that, is the team protected from that kind of issue???
They do make a lot of money
but looking at those rushing leaders’ salaries, I can’t believe how little they make when compared to the salaries of major league baseball players. A mediocre relief pitcher or a AAAA-talent bench player will earn that much, without risking the serious injuries that NFL players face routinely. It makes you realize why they fight so hard to get good contracts, particularly the guaranteed money portion of those contracts.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
Good points bfree and batgirl
My upcoming post will look at some of those issues in the Salary area. It could possibly take numerous posts to cover, so I’m unsure how deep I want to go into the subject for the members interest.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Same agent
Does anyone know if KM has the same agent as Crabtree?
GO BRONCOS
Tough times don't last.......Only tough people!
Sorry, this took major digging to find
Michael Crabtree’s agent is Eugene Parker. and he represents Tyson Jackson as well.
CAA Sports represents Knowshon Moreno. CAA’s football division, run by agents Tom Condon and Ben Dogra, has the potential to represent a quarter or more of the 1st-round picks this year.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Condon's tough but fair.
Knowshon will be in as soon as the averages are set. Thanks KK rec’d.
"as in football so in life"
Condon is the best agent in the business
hands down.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Very good post, Kirk!
I think we are all getting a bit antsy, waiting for these deals to get done! Isn’t it time for some contact yet?
Definitely rec’d, Kaptain!
" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "
Thanks Hairybear
any time now hopefully.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Nice job, Kap'n!
Loved the detail, especially the part where I didn’t have to go digging for it myself!
I don’t blame KM for any of this. This is the nature of the current NFL rookie salary beast. If there was a rookie cap, we’d all be talking about how KM and Ayers were performing over the last several days.
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
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