Weighty matters - The front 7 in 2008 vs. 2009
What have the Denver Broncos done this off-season to improve the defensive front seven? Last year this was the most obvious weakness with the Broncos as they had difficulty stopping both the run and getting sacks.
Switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 with one less defensive lineman and one additional linebacker might give the impression that the front seven as a whole would get lighter and quicker since linebackers are lighter and quicker than lineman. Of course a Nose Tackle to clog up the middle would be heavier, so maybe on average there wouldn’t be much difference between last years horrible defense and this years, right MSM?
The Broncos 2008 opening day defensive line and linebacker's with listed weight.
Moss, Jarvis DE 265
Crowder, Tim DE 275
Dumervil, Elvis DE 260
Engelberger, John DE 260
Ekuban, Ebenezer DE 275
Clemons, Nic DT 300
Thomas, Marcus DT 305
Peterson, Kenny DT 300
Robertson, Dewayne DT 308
McKinley, Alvin DT 294
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Average 2008 Lineman 284.2
Woodyard, Wesley LB 230
Koutouvides, Niko LB 238
Williams, D.J. LB 240
Green, Louis LB 237
Bailey, Boss LB 232
Winborn, Jamie LB 230
Webster, Nate LB 232
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Average 2008 LB's 234.1
Average 2008 Front Seven 263.6
Now before we look at the 2009 players battling for a spot on the 2009 opening day roster, I must say that this isn’t really an "apples to apples" comparison. We don’t yet know if the lightest or heaviest players will be cut, but with the mantra coming from the new regime being "Bigger, stronger, smarter, … it may be that the opening day roster’s average may be more than the current competition. So how much different do you think the current competition compares with last years?
Is the per person average –Lighter?
About the same?
Five to Ten pounds heavier?
Ten to Fifteen?
More than Fifteen?
The Broncos 2009 training camp defensive line and linebacker's with listed weight.
Thomas, Marcus DL 316
McBean, Ryan DL 297
Clemons, Nic DL 300
Powell, Carlton DL 312
Peterson, Kenny DL 295
Fields, Ronald DL 314
Baker, Chris DL 329
Pedescleaux, E DL 312
Davis, Rulon DL 283
Askew, Matthias DL 292
Parker, J'Vonne DL 338
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Average 2009 Lineman 308.0
Williams, D.J. ILB 242
Davis, Andra ILB 251
Woodyard, Wesley ILB 222
Haggan, Mario ILB 267
Greisen, Nick ILB 242
Robinson, Lee ILB 256
Larsen, Spencer ILB/FB 243
Dumervil, Elvis OLB/DE 248
Ayers, Robert OLB/DE 274
Moss, Jarvis OLB/DE 257
Crowder, Tim OLB/DE 260
Reid, Darrell OLB/DE 270
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Average 2009 LB's 252.7
Average 2009 Front Seven 279.1
Totals
2009 Lineman 308.0 (11 players)
2008 Lineman 284.2 (10 players)
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2009 Gain 23.8
2009 Linebackers 252.7 (12 players)
2008 Linebackers 234.1 (7 players)
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2009 Gain 18.6
2009 Average 279.1 (23 players)
2008 Average 263.6 (17 players)
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2009 Gain 16.5
Surprised?
One more way to look it this is the average weight of the whole front seven is 5 pounds lighter then last years defensive line and 35 pounds heavier than last years linebackers.
This alone doesn't mean that the Broncos defense will be better than last years, but it does prove that it is no where near the same defense that stunk up the league last year. It much bigger, stronger and I'd wager smarter as well.
I wonder if LJ and LT will feel the difference?
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by DBinKC on Jul 30, 2009 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1000
That’s the most informative/opinionated/creative Comment I have seen yet.
Rec’d!
It's Orange Crush time. And no I am NOT talking about the soft-drink.
Which I beg the question: "Can liquid really be... soft?"
3 TE Set = 3 losses or less.
Do it MickeyD... 13-3!!
by USMCWall on Jul 30, 2009 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Questions in order:
- Alot!
- I don’t know, I have no affiliation with the msm.
- The competition will suffer severely this year.
- No. I’m not surprised at all, McDaniels has a plan and it will be effective.
- One of them may have trouble staying out of jail, and the other one, well he may not even be around when we play him.
- 6 Oh yeah, there wasn’t a #6 but the front seven will be there this year where they weren’t last year. All new fresh coat of paint on this Bronco…13 -3 Baby!!!
by bfree2bronc on Jul 30, 2009 9:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Way to be a smarty-pants..
Maybe i’ll call you “Jackass”. You have to admit, you are quite stubborn. ;)
It's Orange Crush time. And no I am NOT talking about the soft-drink.
Which I beg the question: "Can liquid really be... soft?"
3 TE Set = 3 losses or less.
Do it MickeyD... 13-3!!
by USMCWall on Jul 30, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word out of KC on LJ
is he is keeping his mouth shut, finally growing up a bit, and respects his new coach. Many here thought LJ was done, but chef fans are begining to hope for a big year from him.
by DBinKC on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its sad that they lost Tony.
He gave everything for the Cheifs and truly deserves a ring. I hope he can get one with ATL before he retires, great guy.
AND… Now KC is REALLY gonna suck! Lol.
It's Orange Crush time. And no I am NOT talking about the soft-drink.
Which I beg the question: "Can liquid really be... soft?"
3 TE Set = 3 losses or less.
Do it MickeyD... 13-3!!
by USMCWall on Jul 30, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you remember Steve Atwater signed a one day honorary contract so he could retire a Bronco...
I wonder if Tony G will do the same under the circumstances?
by bfree2bronc on Jul 30, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its possible.
It's Orange Crush time. And no I am NOT talking about the soft-drink.
Which I beg the question: "Can liquid really be... soft?"
3 TE Set = 3 losses or less.
Do it MickeyD... 13-3!!
by USMCWall on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work.
Nice work, but I think you´re looking at it a bit wrong. A more accurate calculation should be something like this:
2008: 284.2 × 4 + 234.1 × 3 = 1839.1
2009: 2009 308.0 × 3 + 252.7 × 4 = 1934.8
As you can see, the total difference in the front 7 will be a bit less than 100lbs or about 14lbs per person. It may help, but I don´t think it will be a huge factor. As always, execution will probably matter more than bulk or speed.
by Broncosincebirth on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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