Horse Tracks 7/31/09 - Training Camp is Here!! Now, about Knowshon and Ayers...
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 31, 2009 4:53 AM MDT
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DP - Broncos, Moreno are far apart in talks as camp kicks off - Jeff Legwold
Knowshon and Ayers are still unsigned, and there's bad news; Jokeland gave their first rounder (#7 overall) Darrius Heyward-Bey a 20% raise over last year's 7th-overall choice. That contract could throw everyone else off-slot, as the normal raise is 8-10%
DP - Champ Bailey longs for a championship
Champ says he's going to make sure all of his teammates want to win as badly as he does, and that he failed to see that fire in some players' eyes last year.
DB - Shelton, Moulton Re-Signed
DB - First-Year Players Primed and Ready - Broncos TV
Chris Hall catches up with some of the Broncos' rookies, including Nate Swift, Alphonso Smith, Darcel McBath and Marquez Branson.
DB - Staying in Big 12 Country
Zach Eisendrath profiles rookie WR Nate Swift, who joins Correll Buckhalter as Cornhusker alumni with the Broncos.
DB - INFORMATION REGARDING FAN AND MEDIA PARKING FOR BRONCOS TRAINING CAMP
DP - 10 questions as Broncos open camp - Mike Klis
DP - Boss Bailey back in business in Georgia
Notes from Legwold and Jones - Champ and Boss bought a trucking company in GA this offseason. Meanwhile, Champ, Renaldo Hill and Marcus Thomas will start camp on the active PUP list. Plus, WR Lucas Taylor cleared waivers and was placed on IR.
DP - Kiszla: The best Broncos jersey? Try this
Kiszla offers some suggestions on which Denver jerseys to consider buying, in hopes of saving you from having to get a new one in two years.
DP - A couple things to look for at Broncos camp
Legwold's suggestions for the camp competitions to watch for.
NFL - Signing status of 2009 NFL Draft first-round picks
There are now 11 first-rounders reported to have come to agreements, but still 7 players picked higher than Knowshon who have not done so...
RH - Versatile rookie Smith looking to earn respect with Broncos
FOX - Denver Broncos Football Team Report and Insider Slant
FOX's preview of the Broncos heading into Training Camp. Thanks to Elizabeth for the link!
CBS4 - From Club Med To Club Dread: Broncos Face Changes - Arnie Stapleton
While more intensity in Camp will probably mean a big injury or two, this is a team that needs more intensity and fight; so it's probably worth it.
BH - Josh McDaniels the biggest question mark in Denver
Back in Boston, David Ramsey takes a look at what McDaniels faces with the Broncos.
DDN - McDaniels making impact
Good luck reading that ridiculous font. Who the heck runs this site?!
GJS - Expect '09 to be ugly for Broncos - Rick Jussel
9NEWS - Running Red Rocks with the pros
Ebenezer Ekuban and Selvin Young are working their tails off at Red Rocks.
DP - AFC Preview - Jeff Legwold
DP - NFC Preview - Jeff Legwold
SDUT - Heated roster battles expected to center on four key positions
SDUT - Football Outsiders pick Chargers
SFG - Big payday shouldn't alter how Asomugha approaches his job
SFG - Heyward-Bey holdout lasts only one day
KCS - Chiefs' No. 1 pick absent as training camp begins
NFL - Patriots pleased to have QB Brady slinging passes on the practice field
SI - Vikes left to pick up the pieces after Favre debacle - Don Banks
NFL - Vick says he's 'getting close' to signing with a team, doesn't go further
NFP - NFL notebook: Vick heading to Seattle? - Matt Bowen
SI - Searching for rookie gems as NFL training camps open - John P. Lopez
Lopez likes Blake Schlueter, and apparently so do the Broncos' coaches.
SI - Top 10 positional battles in NFL training camp - Ross Tucker
FOX - 10 guys worth rooting for in NFL training camps - Peter Schrager
NFP - The head coach as agent - Jack Bechta
NFP - Diner morning news: Schwartz and the Lions - Mike Lombardi
ESPN - Camp confidential: T.O. can't cure all Bills ills
CBS - Bills camp report: Welcome to the pressure cooker - Clark Judge
FOX - Positional Power Rankings: D-lines
The Broncos come in at dead last, which would be hard to dispute...
ESPN - NFL: ESPN's Chris Mortensen previews his 24-day, 21-team bus tour of NFL training camps
No, Denver is not on the schedule.
SI - Plaxico Burress gambles on testimony in hopes of avoiding prison - Michael McCann
NFP - 2009 NFP scouting series: Temple - Wes Bunting
NFL - With defensive tackles' value rising, 2010 draft to feature bumper crop - Gil Brandt
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Holy Wow!
Mike Klis expects us to go 9-7 at least… and that was just the cherry on top of a largely positive article… repent, the end is nigh!!!
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 31, 2009 6:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
dang it
I thought I had a few more years of fun and debauchery…
by trumanj on Jul 31, 2009 7:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we have a timeline?
I mean, do I need to fit in all the debauchery in one night? Two? Do we have through camp? Regular season? I need to schedule!
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
by Disco_Stu on Jul 31, 2009 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose that it depends entirely on whether you're the debauchee or the debautcher....
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my answer is...
…yes.
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
by Disco_Stu on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeButcher
BWAAAhahahaha!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good morning, NYC
Thanks for Horse Tracks. I check it every day. Thought I’d mention that the story on McDaniels by David Ramsey of the Boston Herald is pretty good (although he disses Orton and Simms, sort of).
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
by bradley on Jul 31, 2009 6:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Nyc
Lots of Goodies today. I’m looking forward to going to training camp tomorrow.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 31, 2009 6:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The 13th and 19th overall picks have signed so Denver has a starting point and salary floor to move the negotiations forward. Xanders should be able to get Ayres and Moreno signed right quick.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 7:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lets hope
I hope they can negotiate upwards than having to go downwards. It may be just me but I wouldn’t put it past Al to sign his pick overly high hoping to squeeze Denver who he knows has two picks.
This year has been a joke regarding the first round signees.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Jul 31, 2009 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Not laughing at the Davis paranioa, but with it. It reminds me of my dad. He grimaces at the mere uttering of the sound ‘Al Davis’ and probably secretly blames him for the Khmre Rouge, 9/11, and the excessive Michael Jackson coverage.
I actually once sent Davis a fawning letter ‘from’ my dad seeking a signed picture…but alas, to no avail. Al didn’t help.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 31, 2009 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is because he has all Broncos fans under surveilance.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 31, 2009 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jokeland Faders
Idiotic! That’s all I can say about Davis giving Heyward-Bey a 20% raise over last year’s no.7 pick. With every other team complaining about high rookie salaries, rookies having to be held out of camp because their agents haven’t negotiated their contracts, no cap structure for rookies, teams with high draft picks being saddled for years with huge financial obligations to unproven rookies, geez… The list goes on.
The league and players union need to impose a rookie salary cap.
by Endzone on Jul 31, 2009 10:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The Devil's Advocate
I can’t believe I’m defending the Raiders, but they have a QB on the brink of disaster and relentless criticism over drafting Bey over Crabtree. Maybe they recognized that, in the best interest of Bey, Russell and the franchise, it was imperitive to get the kid to work on time and give him the best chance to succeed. If he succeeds, Russell has a better chance of getting over the hump, etc. It seems possible, at least, that the Raiders motives were pure on this one. Why should they care what everybody esle ‘has’ to pay their picks?
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 31, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slippery Slope
You raise a good motivation for their behavior. But it creates a standard of rookie pay that affects other rookie agreements. The Raiders just don’t care how the rest of the league is affected. Yet it is undeniable to me that they have recklessly and negatively affected the rookie signings.
by Endzone on Jul 31, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if McD said, at his next presser:
We haven’t signed KM because his demands might screw things up between Houston and Cushing? We’re happy to pay him, but we’re not the only team in the NFL…
We’d go nuts.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 31, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
But my point is that there needs to be a rookie salary cap.
by Endzone on Jul 31, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
But I can’t be critical of any team playing by the rules at hand, and things are a little desperate in Oakland.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Jul 31, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but it also will affect rookie salaries NEXT year including the picks of the Raiders.
Tighten the noose a little bit more around their necks…of course Davis doesn’t mind, he’s been dead for years…
by trumanj on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is into that whole
oxygen deprivation thing anyways.
Not on purpose of course, sometimes it just HAPPENS!
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 31, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horse Tracks is the Broncos link on CNNSI. I’m seeing links to MHR all over the web nowadays.
Pork Chop is not the only one reading what you write.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 11:37 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, how scary is that? Thanks for the heads up, McG
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good read on the 2010 draft – D-linemen
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81189d20&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean the last link on Tracks above? haha
by Douglas A. Lee on Jul 31, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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