Denver Broncos Training Camp Report - 7/31 AM Practice

The first full team workout is in the books and if I wasn't excited before - which I was - I am definitely excited now. Yes, it is only one practice. What can you learn in a couple of hours?? Everything and nothing.
There will be some video of Kyle Orton to come, as well as a bevy of photos I took. Until then, here are my thoughts as I wrote them down during the morning's workouts.
The first thing to get out of the way - who was here and who wasn't. We know 5 players weren't on the field for various reasons. Knowshon Moreno and Robert Ayers are still working on their contracts. Champ Bailey, Renaldo Hill and Marcus Thomas are on the PUP list. I did see Champ and Thomas coming from the workout facility, so they are here and accounted for. As for everyone else, all were dressed and all practiced, including Brandon Marshall, who looked great. More on that later.
Here are some general observations to get out of the way. I was curious to see if the country club mentality would be gone along with Mike Shanahan. Let me say, the entire feel of the practice session has changed. Right from the beginning there was a sense of urgency. There was intensity, and more importantly, it was focused. You get the sense that Josh McDaniels has sold his team on the fact that every position is up for grabs, every job available.
Another observation was the type of drills the team was working on. A lot more fundamentals than I remember last year. Shanahan's workouts seemed to be geared towards the fans and media. McDaniels, however, seems to be getting his team ready to play football. That is a welcome change, even if I couldn't get as close to the action as last year.
Now, the tidbits --
Ryan Torain is back and better than ever. Again, it is early and Torain needs to prove he can stay healthy, but the quickness and moves he showed last year have returned. David Bruton is still looking for his jock after one particular move by Torain in 11-on-11 drills.
The defensive line is easily the biggest concern this team has, and at one point during sled work they were no more than 5 feet from me. Unfortunately I wasn't impressed. There just isn't anyone who scares me in that group. Not yet anyway. No imposing figure.
I watched Kyle Orton throw....a lot. Let me put it to you as precisely as I can. There is nothing wrong with Kyle Orton's arm. He can make ALL the throws. Repeat. He can make ALL THE THROWS. Today he was on time and on target which was great to see. He won't throw for 4600 yards, but in this offense he won't have to.
A quick note on Tom Brandstater - He looks like an NFL quarterback. Great size for the position and a solid release and spiral.
Alphonso Smith is a football player. He has great instincts for the ball, and has the wheels to get to it. He was returning punts along with Eddie Royal, and even blocked a FG attempt at the end of practice.
The Brian Dawkins Effect is already evident. Numerous times I saw Dawkins 'coaching' David Bruton and Darcel McBath. Quick tidbits here and there, where to be, what to look for, etc. Who better to teach the two rookies? Both seem to have great instincts at safety as well.
Back to Brandon Marshall. He was dressed, he was dancing to the music, and he looked happy to be on the football field. I get the feeling that everything can turn out okay, now that the fans are cheering every time he touches the football (which they are), and that the focus can be between the lines, not outside them. Marshall made several great catches and looked to have no lasting effects from the hip surgery. The Beast looks ready.
There you have it. More to come this evening when the team returns to the field. Stay tuned for some Kyle Orton comments and pictures.
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good to hear!
d-line thing is bit depressing but all in all good news!
by Skotty on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!
This is awesome, I really love this time of year! Haha the Broncos and MHR are definitely addictive, after reading this I NEED MORE! It’s definitely nice to be reading this kind of stuff, especially being half way across the world! Great to hear about Smith and Marshall….hopefully the D line will pick it up.
by Vandylaxn21 on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU!!!
I’m like a kid in a candy store……it’s so great to finally have something happening!! Great news about Torain, and good to see Dawk showing the young guys what to do. Thanks for being our eyes and ears! Gimme More! I’ll be impatiently waiting for more information :)
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine
by fooballa303 on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the great report John
Good to hear Orton’s looking sharp!
by rocko1 on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!!
Thanks Guru!
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Jul 31, 2009 12:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
anyone else get the feeling Alphonso is this year’s Eddie Royal?
Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.
John C. Calhoun --
by bcfunk on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been wondering that, as well.
The kid (from all accounts) sounds like a player!
by Gristle McThornbody on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like there are a few of those guys
Just football players – who will happily work with any unit, at any position, because they love to be on the field.
Other newcomers that strike me that way are Bruton, Lee Robinson and McBath. Add that to Larsen, Hillis, et al. and I like the emerging attitude shift!
by jonahsilas on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Been having that feel for a while now
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks John
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton
by diviesti on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
defense
what were the looks the defense were given? 5-2? 4-3? 3-4?
Who was “starting” most of the time?
thanks for the insight!
by Todd Jewell on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
also..
if champ is out, is alphonso starting? if so, is he lining up against marshall or royal?
by Todd Jewell on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the eyeball you give to camp
John,
Ryan Torain, when healthy, could be the starter. Maybe Knowshon should take note. Coach Turner really liked the player last year before the injury bug took his year away. Here is hoping for better this year. IMO if Ryan does show up, then Correll or LaMont maybe out of the 53.
I have to agree with you, watching 300lbs linemen hit the sled, could not elicite much excitement. When the DL and OL are in 7 on 7 is when your words of praise or not will mean more.
I have never had a quip about Kyle Orton. At Purdue he was an excellent spread QB with all the throws. He broke/tied Drew Brees records and was named All American QB behind to players, one not in the NFL White, and another, Leinhart, who is a backup.
I think I can speak for MANY GHF fans, thanks for your services
by DLMyers on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
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by GreasyQtip on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Man I love reading this stuff, thank you so much for keeping us in the loop.
by BANJOPICKER1 on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff
and agreed on most of it.
One thing I thought we differed on was that I thought Josh Bell blocked the FG, and Smith was the one to pick it up and run it the other way. Not a big deal, but it looked to me like Bell was the one in there.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It could have been....
I couldn’t see exactly from where I was, but I knew Smith was right there and picked the ball up. Definitely could have been Bell!
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by John Bena on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bell getting any reps otherwise?
He has an up hill climb to make the roster this year, eh?
by jonahsilas on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My buddy and I were right in front of that block and he thought Smith blocked it and I thought Bell blocked it. They were both definitely in there either way.
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by PosterNutbag on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I guess we’re all right!
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blocked kick
DB.com said Smith blocked it
"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me
by 3nS on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
more info from denverbroncos.com
•When the team went 11-on-11, the first unit defense sported Kenny Peterson, Ronald Fields and Ryan McBean on the front line, Darrell Reid, D.J. Williams, Andra Davis and Elvis Dumervil at linebacker and Alphonso Smith, Andre’ Goodman, Brian Dawkins and Darcel McBath in the secondary. Occasionally that lineup changed slightly, with Tim Crowder seeing some time at outside linebacker, Jack Williams seeing some time at cornerback and Vernon Fox once lining up alongside Dawkins at safety.
•The first unit offense consisted of Jabar Gaffney, Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall at receiver, Daniel Graham at tight end, Kyle Orton at quarterback, Correll Buckhalter at running back and last year’s starting offensive line — Ryan Clady, Ben Hamilton, Casey Wiegmann, Chris Kuper and Ryan Harris. Ryan Torain, LaMont Jordan and Peyton Hillis also got some reps at running back
by Todd Jewell on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked Hillis this morning
Made some nice catches and his hands looked more natural than the other RBs outside of Buckhalter.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean Stokley may not be as vital this year?
I wonders…..
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 31, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
New member here....
….but not new to the site – I’ve been almost daily coming to MHR for 1.5 years now. Never had the time to create an account. But this is one of the BEST sites that I’ve always used to get my Broncos fix.
Anyway, just wanted to say “Howdy!”
by Gristle McThornbody on Jul 31, 2009 12:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Gristle McThornbody?
MST3K fan perchance?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 31, 2009 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXCITING!
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Jul 31, 2009 12:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I had the pleasure....
….of getting to see one morning practice last year, and I thought Torain looked quite good in person a year ago. Quick cuts, fast, etc. Hope the kid can physically hold up.
The other player who stood out, as others have attested to obviously, is Marshall. Just seeing the guy in person and how big and physical he is….it’s gotta get into those CBs heads. Before the ball’s even snapped: Mental advantage – B-Marsh.
by Gristle McThornbody on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Orton
How did his footwork and fundamentals look in the drills?
by MacGuffin on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
assorted thoughts
Re: Torain. I think that far, far too many people have given up on Torain prematurely, if it’s warranted at all, which is still an open question. I, too, am now much less tolerant of injury-prone players than I once was, but I’m also skeptical of the injury prone classification. The connection between lisfranc injuries and elbow dislocations and torn ACLs seems tenuous. I’m not sure if there’s a biological issue present or just bad luck.
Re; the “phonz.” I recall that he blocked a number of kicks in college, so he has a rare talent in this department. His KR ability is another area where I see him contributing. It’s obviously early at this point but I don’t think it will take long for him to quiet the critics of his draft selection. [note: I see there’s some question on whether the blocked kick was Smith’s]
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
by Colinski on Jul 31, 2009 12:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I just pee’d my pants.
I hate the off-season, esp the one that ended yesterday.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Too much drama for the Mile High City!
This ain’t Dallas kids!
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 31, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phonz
One thing that stands out in Smith’s background is his leaping ability. It’s not just his ability to jump (he turned in a 34 inch vertical at Combine, which is fair for a guy his height but not great) but his ability to time his leaps and to extend in the air. That tends to explain why he’s so good at both INTs and blocking kicks.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 31, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It also says...
… his height means less in a jump ball situation.
by ShawnDenver on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Guru!
Great to hear Orton is just who we thought he was (I say that with the anti-Dennis Green slant)!
Keep ’em coming!
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by BroncTastic on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
my first camp!
I now know why they call BM ‘the beast’ Holy Crap he’s big! Nice one-handed behind the back catch! Kyle Orton is going to be fine. BTW, don’t tell anybody at work about my little early lunch break but i noticed on the broncos.com Training Camp Day 1: A.M. Blog their photographer caught me on the hillside. DOH!
by donandtamara on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I was also at training camp today....
Marshall looked much more focused than I expected him to look. Guru wasn’t kidding when he said that every single time Marshall touched the ball everyone in the crowd cheered. Also, while they were running one on one drills (wide receivers against safety/corners), most of the players were going about half speed except for Marshall. Marshall not once, but twice, ran straight over Josh Barrett and the second time Barrett seemed to get pretty upset with Marshall about it. It was great seeing Marshall actually act like he cared though.
If Alphonso Smith looks as good every day as he did today, he is going to be a stellar special teams/defensive player. Eddie Royal is a good option on punt returns, but today it didn’t look like anybody out there saw the field better than Smith.
I personally thought Simms looked like the #3 QB today. He was off on a bunch of his passes and, for the most part, didn’t really look comfortable out there.
Guru is correct about the defensive line, though. They look incredibly undersized and were getting dominated in 7 on 7 drills. Hopefully by the end of training camp they will have that figured out.
All in all, it was a great day in Englewood. There were a ton of fans there, and the level of excitement was higher than it has been in years.
Guru, do you have any idea who the long haired guy was wearing #17 today? On the roster it says Lucas Taylor but it had been reported that he was placed on injured reserve.
by aaronacp15 on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
#17 C.J. Jones
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by John Bena on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
When has Marshall ever not played like each play was his last? Much to his own detriment, BM always tries to do way too much after each catch. If he watched Marvin Harrison and he should, BM would learn to hit the ground far more often than he does. Live to fight another day BM.
If Marshall continues to play the way he has the past two years, his career will get cut short due to taking too many shots to the legs from smaller D-backs that don’ have another way to bring him down.
I know most guys are this blog are sick of Marshall and BM has done more than his share of stupid human tricks, but the guy is now our best player (Clady is a close 2nd). Marshall has Hall of Fame type talent and so far, he has Hall of Fame type production based on the past two seasons. The guy just turned 25 and is coming off a Pro Bowl start. He is an idiot, but he is our idiot and he is extraordinarily talented. IMO, he is the most physically gifted Bronco since Elway (that includes Champ, Pryce and TD). He makes me stand up and scream happy things at my TV several times each game with his amazing abilities. Sounds like the fans at Dove Valley feel the same way.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you're saying
but I believe Clady is better than Marshall. His no sacks against for a rookie LT is just a freakish stat. Those are the kind of stats that make up a HOF resume.
I don’t deny Marshall has great talent, but to say he is “HOF-type” when he only had 6 TD’s with almost 200 targets and then 12 drops on top of that… those stats would give many HOF voters justifiable pause. Marshall needs to step up his game if you want to mention HOF. A lot of catches and yards resulting from a lot of targets isn’t HOF criteria, but that’s just my opinion and I’m not a HOF voter.
We certainly have our different opinions, and I respect yours, McGeorge.
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by BroncTastic on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said Clady was a close 2nd. I have a high opinion of Ryan Clady. I think he is the best young OT in the NFL, by quite a bit (which includes Joe Thomas, Jake Long and Peters).
Both have Hall of Fame type talent. At their age, both have a long long way to go. Which is a good thing.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It certainly is a good thing
While I agree Clady has HOF talent and will be a no-brainer for Canton should he just continue his current level of play (but he’ll probably get even better), I’m not on the BMarsh as a future HOF’er bandwagon (yet).
I see Marshall as a good-to-great WR talent-wise, but think he needs to seriously step up his game if he wants to be considered elite and HOF material. A less than 60% catch rate, along with just 6 TD’s a year and an ugly case of the dropsies (an even dozen last year), will not get him into Canton unless he buys a ticket.
I mention the poor statistics from last year because BMarsh and supporters seem to use last year’s positive stats as a primary reason for him to be considered elite. The amount of catches and good total yardage tell less than half the story, however, and unfortunately the rest ain’t pretty. I want BMarsh to stay and I hope he steps up, but I wonder if his head will keep getting in the way of his hands. You know what I mean?
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
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by BroncTastic on Jul 31, 2009 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite lines ever McGeorge; "BM's an idiot...but hes our idiot!"....thats awesome!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 31, 2009 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna say the same thing.
When he’s with us he’s our idiot, but if he’s ever with another team then he’s just an idiot.
by bowma101 on Jul 31, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muchas Gracias, TSG!
How did the LB corp fare? Were they on the spot, or are we gonna see more over-pursuit? I’m not concerned with the d-line, as long as we got 3 guys that total 900+lbs, i think we’ll be okay. The LBs are what I’m interested in seeing improvement in.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, TSG!!!
No inspirational quote here, just this...GO BRONCOS!!!
by Zogernaut on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
D-Line
The player I have the highest hopes for this year is Marcus Thomas. He’s got the size and skills, he’s shown consistent improvement, he played well as a 5-technique last year, and the third year is the right time for the light to go on for a D-Lineman.
Here’s my real question. OK, the guys up front look lousy. But how do they look compared to last year?
by Chibronx on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The guys last year were terrible and if we don’t improve much along the D-line in 2009, we’re in deep you know what.
Fields, McBean and Peterson are career backups and practice squad fodder. I’m far from sold that any of these three will be able to do what is asked of them.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome stuff!
Keep it coming! Much thanks to all of our members at camp!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ON-SEASON
Woohooo, keep it coming guys, I may have to make a trip to Dove Valley.
I love what I am hearing about Smith, having Champ on PUP might be the best possible situation for him.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Thanks and rec’d!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much, Guru!!
Love reading it!
Joe Sakic was pure class, win or lose, at all times.
by Colorado_Kitten on Jul 31, 2009 4:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
"Shanahan's workouts seemed to be geared towards the fans and media"
Thanks for the report. However, the line about Shanahan’s practices is just silly.
by Broncos_FTW on Jul 31, 2009 4:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Just my opinion....
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by John Bena on Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...have to wonder based on last year whether they practiced tackling ever!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whens Mile High Radio coming back????
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 31, 2009 5:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I Agree!
We need our MHR Radio fix! Keep up the good work Guru!
by MacGuffin on Jul 31, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Do I smell an "on location" broadcast coming?
Comaaaaahhhhn!
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 31, 2009 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that would be saweeeeeeeeet!
Thanks for the update Guru. I am hoping you get a Moreno or Ayers sighting before you leave.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
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by weazel on Jul 31, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck Broncos...
…from a big Orton fan in Chicago. You got yourselves a QB with amazing intelligence, leadership skills, and more than enough talent to take you guys all the way. Hope you guys have an awesome season!
by chitown18 on Aug 1, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks a ton Chitown!
Good luck to you and yours as well!
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 1, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the wishes chitown
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
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