2009 Denver Broncos Training Camp - 7/31 PM Breakdown
The seed of a high school football coach doesn't venture far from the tree. Josh McDaniels is no exception. Coming to a team that has finished 24-24 the past 3 seasons, McDaniels knew that fundamentals were going to be a key component to turning the franchise around. For the first time, we are getting a look at what the young coach plans to do about it. Daddy would be proud.
Before I get too deep into what I am speaking about above, let me just say this. After a full day, and I mean a FULL day, there is definitely a change in Denver. Gone are the 75-minute practices. Gone, at least for today, is an afternoon practice that focused only on special teams. Gone are the practices off for veterans. All of this will hopefully lead to a team that isn't soft. Today's workout was fast-paced, crisp, and efficient - and lasted 2 full hours each time.
Now, back to the high school comment. As I was watching the Broncos work on drill after drill - drills I never saw last season (all the blocking sleds look new, which makes sense), I couldn't help but think I had seen all these drills before.
But where?
High School, that's where.
Now, don't get me wrong; to say that these practices reminded me of high school workouts is not a derogatory term, at least not in this context. Josh McDaniels took over a team that couldn't get out of its own way at times. The only way to fix it is to get back to the basics.The Broncos spent a lot of time working in small groups, working on stripping the football, or hitting a sled. Defensive linemen worked on slapping the hands of O-linemen off of them so they could 'stay clean'.
Quarterbacks ran drills that included dropping back to pass with coaches slapping at the ball, trying to break it free.
Linebackers worked on dropping into coverage, then going and trying to intercept a pass.
Everything you would go out and teach a 13-year-old is what the Broncos were working. It was a welcome sight.
One thing I did not see was a Red-Zone or Two-Minute drill. That might shock some. Both were a staple of the Shanahan practice, as if everything else was quickly completed to get to the real show. What we learned, however, is that it means little in the Red-Zone or Two-Minute drill if your team is not fundamentally sound. The Broncos were not, and all the little inefficiencies add up during a football game.
I know; it was only one day, but it was refreshing to see the team working on things it has struggled with in the past -- rookies, vets, young and old, working on the same thing, with the same goal in mind - to become a better football team.
Now, some random thoughts -
Brandon Marshall was held out of the afternoon workout, spending time rehabilitating instead.
Alphonso Smith is a special football player. He is, however, a rookie getting his first taste of camp. Tonight's workout was a bit of a struggle at times, specifically in 1-on-1 passing drills against the likes of Brandon Stokley and Eddie Royal. Stokley could be the league's best route runner, and Royal isn't far behind. Going against that kind of competition will get you good in a hurry.
That said, Smith is a naturally-gifted return man. With gazelle-like strides, Smith seems to eat 2-3 yards per stride on a return. His moves are quick and decisive and his 190-lb. frame is better suited to take the pounding.
One injury to report - DB Vernon Fox left the field with an apparent right ankle injury. He was able to walk off, but carried a noticeable limp.
Ryan Torain and Peyton Hillis look to be close to 100%. I saw Hillis used in numerous looks - in the backfield, split wide, H-Back. It was good to see the burst. especially after the type of hamstring injury he suffered.
Something I saw tonight that I never would have seen last year #1 -- Tyler Polumbus, guilty of some kind of infraction, was sent to run laps around the field - just like in high school.
Something I saw tonight that I never would have seen last year #2 -- Right before the final drill of the day, the team ran three sprints across the width of the field - 53.5 yards each way. It came at a time when I was writing in my notebook that the evening workout was a bit sloppy. I guess McDaniels agreed. Just like high school.
After the practice ended, the three PUP players - Champ Bailey, Renaldo Hill and Marcus Thomas - were running 50-yard sprints.
That ends Day 1. For those of you that were in the crowd, thanks for taking the time to report what you saw. If you are going tomorrow, let me know.
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Thank God for less 2 Minutes and Red Zone drills...
You would think with all the time spent on the RZ drills in years passed, our offense would have it locked down. Not so much the case. I’m really glad to see McDaniels is going back to the fundamentals of the game because in my opinion, it was our biggest downfall last year.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll add a few tidbits
- D.J. Johnson got torn apart today.
- I really like Kenny McKinley. His route-running could use some work, but working in a grouping with Royal and Stokley will overshadow whatever positives he might have had in that area.
- I thought Simms was the worst QB out there until they started doing drills with a defense, and Brandstater looked very much like the rookie he is. Great arm on the kid, though.
-Orton had a pretty uneven second practice. He made some great throws (his deep outs were picture perfect) and threw two passes that should have been picked. Also, his decision making felt slow to me. It seemed like he was holding the ball for 5 seconds every snap. Not positive that was the case, just how it felt.
-Watching Polumbus run was kind of sad. He trudged by us with his head down. Not the kind of body language you want to see.
- As Guru mentioned, Smith got taken to school a bit in 1-on-1 drills, but his talent is definitely there. He’s got potential to be something special.
- Jack Williams got his helmet knocked off in one 11-on-11 drill. It happened right it front of where I was sitting and it made a pretty loud pop. Wish I could have seen who got him.
- Carlton Powell got knocked flat on his backside immediately after he got out of his stance in OL v. DL drills. I was at a bad angle to see who pancaked him, but it wasn’t very impressive.
- Jarvis Moss just doesn’t look very good. He got stood up repeatedly on his rushes and allowed the left tackles to get their hands locked on him.
…I think that’s all I remember from this evening’s session. Great stuff. Can’t wait for tomorrow.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 9:42 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good observations.
I think there will be more of us tomorrow.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH
And Josh Barrett was CONSTANTLY around the ball. It got to the point where one of the coaches called him out with a “JOSH BARRETT! DOIN A GREAT JOB GETTIN TO THAT BALL.”
Can’t believe I forgot to mention an MHR favorite. He was a beast.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, thanks
for those observations, very cool.
Btw, who is DJ Johnson? Not familiar with him…
by underdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chances are...
we won’t see a lot of him.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Aug 1, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Nothing like practicing the fundamentals. As a baseball guy, I love this. That’s what wins baseball games, and I can only believe that it is what wins football games as well.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
by wtnelson on Jul 31, 2009 9:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks Guru for all the work today!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 31, 2009 9:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
P.S....
I tuned into The FAN for a while this afternoon. Both times I checked in Alfred Williams was going ON and ON and ON about how great Jay Cutler was and how awesome Shanny was and both times I had to just flip it off. I agree on both accounts but am 110% ready to move on. I mean, cmon man, this is the opening day of training camp and the new season! Get with it and move on!
MHR is way better.
by NedBronco on Jul 31, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I appreciate the talents of Shanahan and JC, but we have to concentrate on the here and now
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Aug 1, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with pretty much everything.
I will make another The Sky Isn’t Falling post a little later With some of my observations.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Camp is sounding great!!
Hopefully Ayers and Moreno will be in the mix soon and than the fun really will start!
On To Victory!!!
by alacumba!! on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
also...
Has there been any more info on Ayers or Moreno? Any chance of either making it to practice tomorrow?
On To Victory!!!
by alacumba!! on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've heard
which is mostly just gathered from local news and chatter, is that Ayers is closer than Moreno, with Ayers being in town and Moreno in Georgia. Personally, I’m not expecting either to be on the field real soon. That said, please, please, please, please let me be wrong.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for all the info!
Keep the information coming, each of your time and insight is very much appreciated.
A few questions if anybody wants to answer them:
How were the free agent vets like Dawk and Goodman? Anything worth reporting there? Has anybody on the team voiced up in a leadership role yet, or have they left it to the coaches thus far? What is the overall attitude like on the practice field? Is there a noticeable energy change vs last year? Does Coach hang out with the QB’s mostly, or is he getting around quite a bit?
by elvisalex on Jul 31, 2009 10:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and...
Did they have Elvis dropping back against a defense? If so, how did he do? And who was he up against?
by elvisalex on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Guru and SDTF for updating us.
Good to see the insights of what happened today. I expect that all this will change quickly as the camp progresses.
by Blackknigh on Jul 31, 2009 10:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Guru, I ( WE ) appreciate all your hard work.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Jul 31, 2009 10:32 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
+1,000,000
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
by BroncTastic on Jul 31, 2009 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and Thanks Guru
Great stuff here! Keep it coming.
It’s almost like I’m there — except I’m not!
by underdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm . . . remember when Champ took that INT the length of the field and ran out of gas?
Got caught from behind by a tight end (Watson). Somehow, I get the feeling that won’t happen this year.
Thanks, Guru. Good stuff . . .
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
by AZDynamics on Jul 31, 2009 10:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Off topic but San Francisco Bronco fans?
Are there any out there besides me? I have a friend selling up to three tickets for the pre-season game in SF on 8/14. Selling them for less than face value, for $50 ea. I’m going to buy one but don’t know any other Broncos fans (and most of the Niners fans I know are obnoxious, hah) here anymore. The two I knew moved ages ago! Anyway if anyone else was interested let me know and I can see if I can get the other two tix from him. Again they’d be $50 each. And preferably you won’t be a crazy person, too. ;-)
cheers
by underdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
San Jose here
but I already have tickets for the lower box on the 30 yard line!
"No matter how far a Jackass travels it will never come back a horse"
by SpaceCowboyInLG on Jul 31, 2009 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
Cool, well maybe "see you " there ;-) — in the freezing cold fog probably.
We’ll be the ones staying to the bitter, pointless end to see the debut of Tom Brandstater and company.
by underdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by bitter, pointless end
You are talking about the chances of a Niner’s victory then I agree. Although I am not going to lie, I think Singletary is going to do good things for the Niner’s.
And since this will be my first live Bronco’s game, I don’t care if it is cold, foggy or even the preseason!
"No matter how far a Jackass travels it will never come back a horse"
by SpaceCowboyInLG on Aug 1, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pointless
only in that it’s an exhibition game so it’s meaningless - but I’ll still root for a Broncos win! :)
by underdog on Aug 1, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid dashes
one dash and your crossed out!
by underdog on Aug 1, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave..
…an extra space or two after the dash.
The sage is full of anxiety and indecision in undertaking anything, and so he is always successful.
Chuang - Tzu
by bradley on Aug 1, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be true
though I wouldn’t be surprised to see Eddie Royal take that crown from Wayne and Stokely sometime soon.
by underdog on Aug 1, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to eveyone who reported in
I will see you tomorrow. If you don’t recognize me by my avatar, I’m wearing an oxygen bottle in a backpack. That should make it easy.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 31, 2009 11:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Excited
Thank you so much for this update. I like to see Denver turn things around fundamentally. I believe as a team we will improve w/each passing week during this training camp. I’m really looking forward to the preseason game against the 9ers. I know, who says that right!?
Looking forward to the notes from day two!
Say hello to my fast...
by dcrespo7 on Aug 1, 2009 4:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see if Dawkins is being used at free or strong?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 1, 2009 6:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there Horse Tracks this morning????
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Aug 1, 2009 7:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I will be there Saturday
with a notepad in hand. I’ll be posting a Points of View article with my observations later this evening as well. Assuming its not so exciting that I forget about making notes, lol. So if you don’t see an article from me later tonight, then start getting excited, because it was a very, very, good practice.
It's Orange Crush time. And no I am NOT talking about the soft-drink.
Which I beg the question: "Can liquid really be... soft?"
3 TE Set = 3 losses or less.
Do it MickeyD... 13-3!!
by USMCWall on Aug 1, 2009 8:45 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks man!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Aug 1, 2009 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the update, TSG.
Your analysis makes sense. The last few years with Shanny, it was always perplexing how after one of the games where the Broncs gave up 200+ rushing yards, and they were humiliated, to the next day in the media hear how they are going to be working on “fundamentals” now. Working on tackling….putting the pads on….etc. Which gave the impression, ok, they’re going to fix these issues. But with McD going through these fundamentals from the onset of camp now, to me it’s becoming apparent how Shanny’s way of “two minute drills”, etc. of doing things didn’t make an initially sound football team. It seems like Shanny really didn’t work on fundamentals, or was missing some ingredients. I never could figure it out.
I REALLY like now McD is implementing all these things in his practices! It just makes sense. There’s a quote out there (can’t remember it verbatim….gonna try to find it) that says, to paraphrase: The best practice isn’t working on advanced techniques, it’s working on the basics over and over and over again. Something like that. Whether it’s martial arts, football, whatever.
by Gristle McThornbody on Aug 1, 2009 9:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice points the Gris!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Aug 1, 2009 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Good fundamentals will allow us to change our look from game to game much more effectively. Knowing the basics by heart will allow players to shift positioning and tactics without a large drop in performance.
"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton
by odarol on Aug 1, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I like to see
Finally a team that will have the coaching staff that instills an attitude of physicality. I remember hearing McDaniels say that in an interview recently and I am glad to see that the practices are like that. Fundamentals. They are the most important things in any sport and without executing them you really aren’t going to be successfull.
Good to hear Smith is doing well for his first camp and since he looks good returning, maybe now Royal can get a rest from that a little bit.
Keep it coming Guru, Thanks.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Aug 1, 2009 9:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Bronco fan living the good life in Vegas
Thanks to John (guru) and all the posts. We out-of-towners love it!!!
by DLMyers on Aug 1, 2009 9:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I live in Sacramento....ditto to that man!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Aug 1, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am getting amped baby!
13-3!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Aug 1, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Zappa....on board with 13-3...i love it mate!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Aug 1, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey what can I say
Stokley learned from the best (Marvin Harrison) but Stokley isnt the leagues best route runner. That honor belongs to Reggie Wayne ;)
by metal_militia on Aug 1, 2009 10:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Might be true
though I wouldn’t be surprised to see Eddie Royal take that crown from Wayne and Stokely sometime soon.
by underdog on Aug 1, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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