Excited about potential
I am very excited heading into training camp this month. We know the headlines. We've seen the bad turn ugly. We've seen fan favorites "turn" against it's fan base. I am excited about the potential of playing winning football. You remember those years in the mid to late 90s. Running game. Two sometimes three runs in a row. Play action. Big first down. Amazing individual plays. The root of the success was the run game.
I don't have hours of research and data to iron out any bias. What I do have is this fact here. Clinton Portis. The last Denver Bronco to start back to back years for the Orange and Blue. One could argue that the trade had benefited both the Redskins and the Broncos. In hindsight, well we know neither team has won the Super Bowl let alone dominated the defense. What it did do was hurt both franchises in a position of what was their strength. Redskins had both Bailey and Smoot. Denver had the philosophy that any RB can fill the void. Well Hall is now a Redskin, w/a nice raise at that (the same hall that got lit up like a Xmas Tree in Royal's first game as a pro), and Denver's "coach for life" given the pink slip because of many personnel choices.
We now have Moreno. Not very popular to many since Maualaga was a fan favorite to man the middle of the defense. Truth is this. The history of the NFL has always been secured w/successful running teams. Then evolved the title of the "Big Three". If Moreno can be that special player w/the same ceiling as Adrian Peterson, Royal evolve as a team lead AND evolve as the face of the franchise, all Orton has to do is develop in this new offense and be the "quiet" leader Aikman was w/the Cowboys.
The best thing that can happen right now for this team's defense is to play football the way its meant to be played. Success isn't measured by looking over your shoulder and worry about your job or minutes on the field. I think if Denver can manage 7-9 minutes of possession per quarter, we will see some special football. A defense fresh in the 4th and players such as Woodyard, Smith, and Williams shining as they can allow plays to come to them instead of trying to make plays.
Don't get down on this group. There are alot of unknowns but this is part of change. I bought into the scheme of change and though I may not agree with how some things played out, I do believe. My expectations are: Moreno rushes for 12 touchdowns 2 receiving. Hillis rushes for 600 yards and 4-6 touchdowns. Orton throws for 24 touchdowns and Royal contributing to 6-9 touchdowns. These are not loud expectations, just the basics.
If Denver's offense can manage 28-34 minutes of ball control, I think the defense will be in the middle 14-19. Sorry if I don't have the diagrams and countless hours of data to support my view. What I do have is Moreno as my RB, Royal as my WR, and Orton as my QB. Trust me, it is more than just Cutler and Marshall, its about team players and we're slowly winning there.
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Nice Post
We can’t all show off super diagram skills
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by SpaceCowboyInLG on Jul 4, 2009 12:28 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
great post
and i definitely agree, I’m very excited
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
by stedtfeld on Jul 4, 2009 12:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice read man and good points.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Jul 4, 2009 6:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
MSM makes me sick!
I refuse to be anything BUT positive until I see the final product on the field. I’m just keeping it real and positive. Let the game results drive opinion…. Not uneducated, biased media speculation that oozes from the likes of NFL Network!
Go you Broncos…we support you!
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by Hogblog on Jul 4, 2009 7:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
it's not everyone at NFLN
Woodson is a pretty decent guy. Pukes is a moron.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 4, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post bides, don't for get the acquisition of Brandon Lloyd.
I believe there is avalid reason behind his coming to Denver, the coaches know the issues concernin Marshall and they have a pretty good idea of where it’s all leading. Lloyd may be the ‘trick’ catch artist we need on the right wing. The days of Marshall may well be numbered.
by bfree2bronc on Jul 4, 2009 9:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That is an interesting thought bfree
Lloyd may be the ‘trick’ catch artist we need on the right wing
What if he is McD’s contingency plan for Marshall if Brandon gets traded? Just like the shrewdness of Orton vs. Cutler. Could there be some forethought of a draft pick trade for BMarsh and Jedi has the solution already in place in Lloyd?
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by KaptainKirk on Jul 4, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Lloyd
I’ve thought the same thing. I would not count out our new draftee McKinley out of that position either. But I don’t think any of our other WR’s have the “big body” blocking ability of Marshall. Since the thrust of the post, to me, was the run game I thought it appropriate to point out that Marshall is a pretty effective blocker.
by Endzone on Jul 4, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, and that's a good point
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 4, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential =
13 – 3 Baby! Lol
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 4, 2009 9:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
orton royal moreno
im drafting all three in one of my fantasy leagues, probably not in that order
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by BroncoJoe311 on Jul 4, 2009 10:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I drafted all of them in mine
plus Marshall
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
by stedtfeld on Jul 4, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be drafting Matt Ryan or Tom Brady
as my starters. I love that Ryan’s got Gonzalez now, that’s going to be a huge difference in his stats this year. I’m considering Michael Turner or AP but Moreno looks like he could do work this year. Given our tough schedule I think our running game is going to be pivotal on our success.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 4, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
our success will be pivotal on our running game.
reverse.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Jul 4, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
best part
you should be able to get ’em cheap…thank Dukes and Wilcot
by BideshiBronco on Jul 4, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lloyd is our "ace in the hole "?
I’ve watched Lloyd thru his years,teams, and injuries. He seems to grade out higher as a backup. Time will tell? BMArsh is the talent we need. Unless Ravens would trade Ngata, I’d like Marshall to be here.
I do like his acquisition and continue to hope we may still be a defensive FA or backup OL out there before we start preseason?!
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by Hogblog on Jul 4, 2009 10:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing about getting Ngata is...
Where will that put Fields?
"Who speaks for Charlie?"
by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 4, 2009 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fields played DE for the Niners last year.
And if someone calls you up and offers you Haloti Ngata, you accept instantly and worry about any playing time problems it creates later. Ngata was who I wanted in 2006 and he’s become a helluva player.
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by Randall15 on Jul 5, 2009 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have one word for bronconation....HILLIS!
He’s our future star! He can do everything!
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by Hogblog on Jul 4, 2009 10:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
One thought on Orton – in Chicago, as in Purdue, Orton wasn’t a quiet leader. He was vocal, but it started with the fact that he, like most high level QBs, was 1st to arrive and last to leave the training facilities. Players were drawn to him because he seemed to lack the prima donna attitude that some QBs have and was just a blue collar guy trying to make the team work better. He was, however, no shy about speaking up when it was needed.
Quiet can mean many things, and I’m not saying that it isn’t accurate here. I will say that Orton speaks loudest with his hard work and constant effort, and that, too, may make a real difference.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Jul 4, 2009 10:13 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
RE
I had it in quotes for a reason, I have a few Bear fans that felt Grossman was more ready to take the Bears further than Orton. This was before and during the Super Bowl run and I argued that as a rookie he had to be “quiet” because of the new experience playing in the NFL. Hence the Aikman reference. You described who Aikman was in both worth ethic and accountability and could only agree. Whether the many faithful remain open to our new Qb will remain to be seen as the Training Camp, Preseason, and Regular Season plays out.
Say hello to my fast...
by dcrespo7 on Jul 5, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run Game
Our run game last year ranked 12th in the league. The team in truth did pretty well despite injuries and the pass-first Bates philosophy. Most of the credit for that effective run game has to go to the O-Line. Most of the blame for not doing even better has to go to the injuries and abilities of the RB players.
The team kept the best (Hillis), drafted a potential star (Moreno), and picked up very solid proven veterans (Buckhalter, Jordan) and the jury is still out on Torain. I will be shocked if our run game is not a LOT better than last year. I will also be shocked if we don’t use our run game a LOT more this year because (1) we won’t be as pass happy, (2) we won’t be reluctant to run the ball, and (3) we’ll be ahead in so many games that we’ll be running out the clock! Go Broncos!
by Endzone on Jul 4, 2009 10:28 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
"Flounder" from Animal House said it all
This is so great!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Jul 4, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
? Marshall move
I am really split down the middle on Marshall. Very good big receiver but with talent (drops & fumbles) and character issues.
Adam Shefftner (ESPN & the best) reports that a 1st round pick would get BM.
If BM stays, I know he will get suspended in the future. Thats his nature and personality.
I would bet my car on Baltimore NOT putting Ngata in any trade talks. He IS their DL clog.
by DLMyers on Jul 5, 2009 2:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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