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Optimism abounds in D-Town

y view from the bottom of the pile.

         Let me start off with a disclaimer: this is my first post ever.  All right, with that out of the way let me get to the dirty.  I have been a broncos fan for 27 years; I am 27 years old go figure.  I have been NFL and broncos obsessed for about 10 years now.  This information is given to deliver some insight on my blind optimism and hopeful thinking.  Now as far as our most turbulent offseason in 16 years I have a few points I would like to highlight.

         1.  Coaching

I believe the right decision was made as far as Shannahan was concerned.  The only evidence I have to offer is of ex-broncos talking about Shannahan obsession with stats rather than wins (this is in reference to the J. Plummer interview and a few other articles I have stumbled upon).  Enter Josh McDaniels.  I was astonished at this hire.  I was one of the people rooting for Spagnolo (RAMS) or Schwartz(LIONS).  Upon his hiring he started building his staff and I must say his was the most blatant and in my opinion intelligent hiring strategies I have witnesses.  He selected a linebacker coach from Oakland (Martindale), a D-line guru from San Diego (Nunnely) and a special team’s co. from Kansas City (Burns).  Seriously, what better way to gain insight into ones division than hire (RAID) the collective division cabinet.  Of all these hires I love the Nunnely the most as he is one of the top two line coaches in the league. 

Bringing in Nolan also quelled some of my fears as he has a tremendous defensive background -save the 49's- and a little history on the Broncos as well.  I personally love the decsion to go to a 3-4 alignment and will further extrapolate on that subject later in this book, er, post.  Also the hiring of McCoy is tremendous as Carolina has always had an efficient, effective offense which was highlighted last season by their excellent use of a two-back committee run game. 

All these hires have some apparent goal in mind and can be rationalized by any mild football enthusiast.  This is a systematic and really simple approach to building a strong coaching core that can rapidly advance the assessment time our coach needs to evaluate within our division and to institute sound defensive play calling from a coach with years of experience on top tier defensive programs.  Offensively we have an assistant with knowledge in a proven multi-back run game that destroyed the NFC last season.  Hmmm, what is going on here????

         2. Free Agents and the Draft

Are we still at 20 something free agent acquisitions; anyway this was the busiest I have ever seen a free agent period become.  I LOVE the Brian Dawkins signing, age is an issue but like many have stated intelligence and leadership can balance the physical deterioration of an older player.  The tandem signing of Hill and Goodman provide a pair of players with personnel knowledge of each other’s abilities and weaknesses and provides them an opportunity to continue what was a solid though not spectacular relationship from Miami.  The signings of Askew, Parker, Baker and Fields have actually made me feel better about our D-line.  All are mountains and relatively young with potential.  Our linebacker signings have also been solid as Davis and Greisen are potent veterans coming from 3-4 alignments.

Offensively I like the signing of Gaffney as his knowledge of the system should assist all the receivers in learning and his skills themselves are versatile.  His ability in the redzone is of a little comfort also.  Releasing Leach for Paxon was a tad disturbing until I realized the reason for it.  Paxon can contribute as an O-Lineman where Leach was a projected TE.  Kind of splitting hairs but a coach wants what a coach wants.  L.Jordan, and Buckhalter add a certified dimension to our running game that has gotten by on scheme alone recently.  How many times has our rookie or random free agent back missed a gap or dropped a pass in the last 4 years.  I have missed the consistencey of a reliable H-Back and now we have 2 releiable options at that position.  D.Walker is a nice pick-up but I see ST all over him. The late arrival of B.Llyod is a pleasant surprise as he has routinely produced spectacular catches.  Unfortunately as my San Fran. Friend has pointed out he is afraid to catch in traffic and will even duck a pass if he feels the heat.  There have been other development in free agency but those are the primary players I feel will make a difference to our team. Now to the Draft.

Knowshon Moreno?????  I thought I had drank too much, I thought the T.V. had just lied to me.  We are a new team, with different values and any apprehension one may have had ended with this draft.  Love this Draft from top to bottom.  The only exception I have is on why Quinn was grabbed so early because everything I have read puts him much later in the draft.  Ayers looks extremely promising and any questions I had about Smith were diminished after all the MHR articles I have read on him and his size/ability.  The drafting of McBath and Bruton make the future of our long abandoned safety position much brighter.  The offensive lineman picked are both known as “nasty” which in of itself an attribute I covet in lineman. T. Brandstater looks promising and is a physical specimen at Quarterback.

When looking at our draft the main negative I hear is of our ignorance of need.  I have seen several gradings of our draft ranging from A-F.  This is not uncommon for a Denver draft so I have come to take this with a grain of salt.  I will say this is the first draft I have seen where the emphasis was on value and not of necessity.  This philosophy is distinctly different from our previous regime and one that has had extreme success and abysmal failure.

                3. Projections and Predictions

I will now break down my depth chart and how these units will fair.

O-Line:  We have the best O-Line in the NFL.  Period.  Continuing from last year I expect dominance from our line and project that the emphasis will now focus more on a balanced run/pass scenario.  Our pass protection is awesome with young talent in Clady/Harris at the left and right tackle positions respectfully.  At guard I will give the nod to Hamilton but if his motor stalls like happened last year sporadically he will undoubtedly be pulled as our new coach is fearless and will play the best person always.  Kuper gets the other spot as he has developed nicely and may even get better with the new guard pulling run attack McDaniels brings from NE.  Of course that leaves us with Wiegmann at center which the resigning of made my day.  Lichtensteiger is an awesome back-up at both center and guard and provides us with an insurance policy if age catches up with Casey.  Adding our draftees of this year with those of last year and we have decent to solid depth for a line that is bordering on greatness.

Depth Chart:

 

LT- Clady, Polumbus

LG- Kuper, Schlueter

C- Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger

RG- Hamilton, Olsen, McChesney

RT- Harris, Oldenburg,

Fullback- This is where things get interesting as we have some very interesting scenario’s to look at.  Obviously we have Mr.Hillis who is dangerous as a runner, receiver and blocker.  We also have a Spencer Larsen who paved holes for us last season and is reliable in short ground runs.  Then we have a beast in Lichtensteiger in goaline and short yardage situations.  So I say pick your poison because they are all deadly.  We have in them a conglomerate that can be interchanged at any scenario to optimize our goal.

FB- Hillis, Larsen, Lichtensteiger

H-Back- Um well, we all saw last year.  The one positive it provided was we got to see players who may never have gotten a chance to play shine.  Of serious note is Peyton Hillis.  His power running football is something our broncos have not utilized in a long time; 4-5 yards a carry, unbelievable receiving skills and deceptive agility, awesome.  But we are a new team; enter Knoshon, Buckhalter and Jordan.  I have never seen a backfield this talented ever.   The options here are limitless with the only drawback being the latter two’s age.  Both Buckhalter and Jordan are over 30 but with the ball sharing systems they have been a part of their mileage is minimized.  All are receiving threats and are more than adequate blockers.  Even in a 4-5 receiver set don’t be surprised to see 2 of them on the field at the same time. 

H-Back- Moreno,Buckhalter,Hillis,Jordan, Walker

TE-  I have a theory and it shows in my tightend projections as well as my receivers.  I have Quinn over Scheffler for a reason which I will highlight in my receiver projections so bear with me.  Graham is a sensational blocker and adequate receiver and his skills need no more listing.  He is a proven veteran and reliable in almost every situation.  Quinn was a surprise pick in the draft and is considered an extra linemen in all of the pre-draft bios I have read on him.  McDaniels seems sold on his receiving capabilities so I will accept that he has seen something I have not.  Quinn can block though and everything I have seen and read on him suggests that this is his niche and he fills it superbly.

TE-Graham, Quinn, Scheffler

WR-  In projecting this I am assuming Marshall will be traded or at least suspended/benched whatever.  His skills are undeniable and if he can join our team it should be considered a gift as he is an excellent athlete and demands attention from defenses.  In this system he could face much less double and triple teams due the scheme and possible become more dominant even if his # of catches goes down but for this he is out.  That leaves us with what is still a ridiculous receiving corp that will twist defenses inside out.  Royal is special and his speed and route running already are elite and should only get better with time.  Gaffney is a multi-tool receiver with many positives and knowledge of the system.  Jackson has shown flashes of excellence but remains an unknown commodity.  Lloyd has glue hands and a knack for big plays but must find his courage in the open field.  McKinley has Spurriers unabashed approval and had a spectacular collegiate career but must face scrutiny over his work ethic and courage in the open field.  Let me not forget Mr. Stokley who should have third downs renamed after him.  Ah, now to my theory of Scheffler.  6’5, 250lbs. 4.5 speed , this is why I believe Marshall may not be necessary to our receiving corps.  We have all seen Scheffler make spectacular catches and he is known as a receiving threat so why not start calling him what he should be, a prototypical possession receiver.  I think McDaniels who may have missed it in his first weeks at the helm has seen his future at receiver and is now beaming at the weapon he almost traded.  I am not saying Scheffler can wholly replace Marshall but he can provide the type of physical, YAC type threat that McDaniels needs on offense.

WR#1- Scheffler, Lloyd

WR#2 –Royal, C.J. Jones

WR#3- Stokley, McKinley

WR#4- Gaffney, Jackson

D-Line- Now things start to get interesting.  First a little history, sort of, Denver has drafted for speed on defense for generations and now that sometimes fault may provide us with an opportunity.  Take Marcus Thomas for instance.  Three years ago he came in over weight by Shannahan standards and was asked to trim up and put on more muscle.  He has been increasingly more effective every season but now we switch to a 3-4 oh no.  What this means to me is now we have a slimmed down DT that has been trained to be faster.  Sounds like a pretty good 3-4 end doesn’t it.  I have heard he is going for the NT position and I do believe the probable heavy rotation at that spot will include him but as with all of our defensive players left on the line the prior regimes system may make them even better prospects at their new positions.  May I also point out that the 3-4 I put up shows us having close to 1000 pounds of angry players which  is what we put out before but with 4 players.  We are going big and fast.

NT- Fields, Baker,Parker, Thomas, Powell (Nunnely prefers a heavy rotation meaning every down could show a new look)

DE- Thomas, Peterson, Clemons, Davis,Powell, Ayers, Reid, Dumervil, McBean

LB-  This is a unit that will live or die by how several key players transition to being stand up defenders.  Players like Dumervil, Moss, Crowder, Reid must make a good transition for this unit to excel.  Ayers too must find his niche in this line-up also.  The outside of our line backing crew is my biggest concern going into the season but the one thing that gives me solace is the fact that we drafted so little in the front seven.  Am I crazy you ask, well, maybe but this alludes to two things for me.  Either our OLB have been excellent in their transition therefore McD is comfortable with what we have or our coach is out of his mind and we are screwed.  Hopefully it is the first and not the latter.  At ILB we are set in my mind.  With Williams, Woodyard on one side and Davis, Larsen on the other we are set to destroy anything that moves on the field.  Couple that in with Greisen previously of Baltimore and Haggan as back ups and our ILB core is spectacular.

ROLB- Reid, Moss, Crowder

LOLB- Dumervil, Ayers,

RILB- Davis, Larsen, Haggan

LILB- Williams, Woodyard, Greisen

DB-  We now have not only a current secondary capable of greatness with 2 HOF on one side and a reliable tandem on the other but future players ready to learn and contribute.  I don’t know how much to put here about our secondary as to the fact that any one that has seen what we have should be smiling from ear to ear.  A. Smith has awesome potential and I have seen many people talk about how burned routinely I don’t see that happening this season.  J. Williams provides solid depth too at CB while J. Bell seems an adequate back-up player.  I have already talked up our new safeties so I will leave those alone but I will finish with this, our secondary is deep and dangerous.

CB#1- Bailey,Williams,

CB#2-Goodman, Smith, Bell

SS- Dawkins, McBath

FS- Hill, Barrett, Bruton

Special Teams-  It looks as if we will actually play special teams this season.  I like Kern, I believe he will improve with experience.  Prater well, if he can find any sort of consistency then we have the best young kicker in football, IF, I say.  I see Walker taking kick offs as well as C.J. Jones but if Royal is tasked with this I will be praying every kick off for his safety.  I see the same general set up on punts.  It seems there is a much greater emphasis on this aspect of the game this year and that alone makes me feel better.

                Conclusion:

I see us in two ways.  If our coach is as smart as I hope we are about to begin a dominating campaign that will lead to at worst a playoff appearance this season.  I believe that the play-calling last year grew stale and predictable as the reason for it was not to win games but garner league attention with stats.  I believe that while Bates was innovative at times he is still young in his football I.Q.  Slowik is the worst D.C. EVER.  I cannot speak on his on his other coaching abilities as they seem to be focused more on offense in the first place(I believe he was a QB coach before he was our secondary coach then our DC?)  Anyway,  I think that last year’s aberrations have been nullified and the holdover players are better than there disorganized play last season.  I see potential in this team and every move made by McDaniels seems to have a purpose.  If he is as advertised we will be dominating this division now and for the foreseeable future.  On the other hand if what most of the so-called experts say is true then we just might be the new Detroit Lions/Oakland-L.A. Raiders.

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First rule I learned in college:

Never believe what the newspapers tell you.

Nice first post, and I like your idea of moving Scheffler to WR. The only issue I have with it is that he creates mismatches as a TE. Assuming Marshall leaves though, I see how your idea would come into fruition. But Marshall at this point is good to me because he allows a guy like Scheffler to be open or covered by a guy half his size.

Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.

by Joe Medina on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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Very good post.

I’m surprised you did not address the QB position.

I don’t see Liechtensteiger as a FB. If anything, he will continue to contribute as an H-back in addition to being the backup center.

I think you reversed the depth chart for RILB and LILB.

Ayers is more of a RDE and ROLB than LOLB.

Nice speculations on Paxton vs Leach and possibly using Scheffler as a WR.

by Endzone on Jul 4, 2009 3:32 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

nice first post

I’ve seen other articles about Scheffler as a WR, and I think they give the impression that he’d be better suited as a TE. Liked everything else.

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.

Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Jul 4, 2009 4:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet that

felt good to get out of your system. :-)

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Jul 4, 2009 8:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

TE/WR

From what we’ve seen so far, the Broncos will use numerous alignments, and some of those will have Tony split out wide. For that matter, Peyton Hillis talked about lining up in multiple positions, including TE and WR.

But when the ball is snapped, there are only receivers in the pattern. It doesn’t matter what they’re called.

by Velveeta on Jul 5, 2009 12:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It’s hard anymore to define a position, especially when talking half backs, full backs… I think the ‘taking it back to basics’ comes into play here and we just have backs and receivers anymore…. Especially from what I understand of the new system, thus far. Of course you still have titles to define who lines up where, and type of route, etc. but when Peyton lines up at WR, for example, the concern isn’t that he’s a back lined up in a receiver position, it’s more along the lines of – what will this open up/prevent us from. It surely doesn’t matter what you call them, so long as it is synonymous with bad-a$$
= )

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 5, 2009 12:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post!

I take it, you have a 53-man roster chopped out here, though I didn’t count yet…. Seeing as we have so many versatile players, and you of course, have a few listed in multiple postions. When I was making my 53 man roster- which I was planning on posting soon -I wonder where to list quite a few guys on D….

Here you have multiple players listed, in multiple spots on D, which makes perfect sense. Did you have it down to a particular 53? I’ll count and post again when I have more time, than at this moment…..

Again, it was an awesome read.

I wonder though, besides as endzone mentioned about the QB position, why did you have some super-bunk-sauce at the very end? The last line killed me LOL, you coulda pulled a DB.com and had some one-liner quote ta end on a positive note…. “We got ’em right where we want ’em” may have been fitting. Thanks again!

= )

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great First Post

People will quibble with some of the details, but the big picture you paint is excellent.

I too see Tony Scheffler line up as a receiver and have thought he could replace Marshall if that came to pass. Tony was a WR who converted to TE, so going back to WR should be an easy transition. As you say, it’s hard to understand the Quinn pick in the second round on a team with lots of TE talent unless there’s a way to get them all on the field at the same time (besides a 3 TE set). BTW, Quinn may have only caught 12 balls, but those are impressive catches and runs afterward. He has moves too.

I, like you, believe all positions are an upgrade this year (except QB). However, I’m guessing that Orton’s job is to get the ball into other people’s hands. Decision making and distribution are his strengths, so I think he will be fine. Too bad Cutler didn’t see this situation as an opportunity to grow and learn new skills. Jay’s resistance provides a little insight into who he is. Orton’s attitude, to be a sponge and to win games (not pro-bowl appearances) is perfect match for a coach with complex schemes and formations that change who gets the ball week to week.

I too am impressed with the increased weight of the front 7. Broncos couldn’t stop the run, especially in the 4th quarter, because we were undersized. This was by choice under Shanahan. However, smash-mouth football wins Superbowls. Now we have the personnel to be mean on both sides. That’s a big change right away. I grew up on the NY Giants, so I hated watching our players tire and get flattened in the 4th quarter. I like my team best when it can chew up the field with a long, clock-burning drive, or force a 3-and-out (or 4-and-out) and crush all hope of our opponents. I like the new direction to add mass to the front 7. Stopping the run will force the pass, and now we have more pass rushing talent to put on the line and more ball thievery talent to take advantage of mistakes than come with pressuring the QB.

I too am looking forward to the season, and I think the Broncos will surprise.

Great post, especially for a first post. One of the most enjoyable reads in a while.

by MichaelCushman on Jul 5, 2009 10:21 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

WHO'S your daddie? Great post, and most of what ou wrote may be true.

Some wrinkles but great. rec’d. Shanahan’s conundrum had me baffled, and I wonder if he was as baffled as I was? Or was the ego trip he most of been on way too great for him to get over? Slowik??? Never could figure that out, and is he working anywhere yet? Dumervil on the left side? I thought he play on the right. Sheffler as WR, probably not but may be installed on a special play to catch the defense off guard. I had the same opinion of Lloyd after watching him play, he doesn’t like getting hit and that is an interesting take for me considering McDaniels said that players ‘will’ be ‘tough’? Hmm, was it the way he was coached in Chicago? Don’t get hurt because we need you??? I don’t know, it just seems wierd to me that McDaniels would consider a “SISSY” in his fold. Too many questions are starting to arise.

by bfree2bronc on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the feedback

I have been reading articles here for the last month and just had to throw out my ideas. My bad on R side L side. As far as our QB situation I have seen it debated and broken down here and everywhere else and the only fresh thing I can really add was a comment said by Brian Urlacher addressing Ortons leadership, intelligence and Urlachers sincere regret at seeing him go. I do not have the exact quote unfortunatley but may I say if Urlacher respects Orton I will at the least give him a fair shake. As far as Schefflers place on our team I believe Quinn was drafted for now rather than later so it is my “optimism” that hopes he can retain a place on the squad.

by daddie36 on Jul 5, 2009 8:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what Urlacher will do when Cutler has one of his pouting moments during a game.

And if Cutler gets the sack treatment from the nfc defenses, he may portray his true colors again.

by bfree2bronc on Jul 5, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Urlacher's quote speaks volumes

"I guess the Bears felt like we needed another quarterback, so they made a move," Urlacher said. "They gave up a lot. Cutler must be pretty good.
"I guess we got better as a team," Urlacher said. "You get a quarterback who is a Pro Bowl guy. But I will say this: I think Kyle Orton is a good quarterback. He’s a great teammate. I hope he does really well in Denver."

by rocko1 on Jul 5, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some other quotes from Champ

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr…ay-cutler.html

Marc Silverman and Jeff Dickerson from ESPN 1000 radio Chicago interviewed Denver Broncos defensive back Champ Bailey on the Waddle & Silvy show Monday. Bailey was asked where he thought new Bears quarterback Jay Cutler ranked among the top quarterbacks in the league.

``Well he’s definitely in the top 10 as far as what he’s done to this point,‘’ Bailey said. ``Now where he can be, he can be the best in the game, he has that ability. The guys very smart, very sharp, a good arm; he has all the stuff you’d want. He reminds me of a Marino, Elway type of guy, and he’s going to be a great winner for them. It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary.’’

Bailey was asked if he ever questioned Cutler as a leader.

``No, not at all,‘’ he said. ``That’s one thing about him, he’s not a shouter, but when he gets upset and he knows we’ve got to get going he opens his mouth. I appreciate that from him, I’d rather have a guy that leads by example than a guy that talks all the time.’’

And Bailey’s thoughts on the trade?

``The possibility was a shock, but once in sunk in a little bit, that’s just the nature of the NFL, you never know,‘’ he said. ``You see guys leaving here, look at Jason Taylor, he left, a number five all decade guy, you never thought he’d leave Miami, but it just happens.’’

by AKfan on Jul 8, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great first post dad...

You’d make a great addition to the
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crowd.

Go Broncos!!

Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Jul 6, 2009 11:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good job on your first post!

I would switch Williams and Davis at the ILB positions, and I don’t see Scheff at WR. The only quibble I have is that “H-Back” is not what I think you meant. “Half back” or “HB” would be correct (or even “tail back”). H-Back is a specific half back role that is rarely used in a scheme.

Enjoyed the depth chart, and think you have terrific thoughts on who goes where and why. GREAT point on the fact that we’ve raided division rival coaches to gain some intel.

Looking forward to more!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jul 7, 2009 1:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent first post.

Great work. I have two comments:
Coaching – I had not put two and two together before regarding raiding divisional opponents, Great observation. I think keeping Turner and Dennison was just as important as some of the adds.
O Line. I think you are dead right spot on. (Perhaps have Kuper and Hamilton switched?)
Thanks for the interesting and informative post.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Jul 7, 2009 4:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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