Sports Reporters (MSM) and the SPJ Code of Ethics
Hi all, as some of you are well aware, I am relatively new to MHR but I have been getting to know most all of you as a lurking reader for about 9 months. I have been reluctant (if not somewhat intimidated by all of the talented writers that share their insights and expertise) to pick one of the topics that I have been developing in my little brain and go ahead and share it with you.
The past few days (and months for that matter)have accelerated my initiative as there has been an increased level of discussion and emotion being shared among members regarding the the so called Main Stream Media (MSM), primarily as it relates to the competency of their reporting. These exchanges got me to thinking today and have caused me to consider, what are the MSM responsibilities when it comes to truth, fairness, and accurate journalistic reporting of the Sports "News" and more specifically, the NFL and our beloved Broncos.
So I decided to have some fun and do a little bit of research (pretty novel hey, not for most all of MHR I know!) to find out if, in fact, there were some rules, regulations, or industry guidelines, etc., that might be in place (for Dukes and the like) to use a guide for journalistic excellence.
I present the following excerps not as gospel or absolute compliance, but as fun-fodder to add to the discussions and sometimes intense emotions regarding the MSM in recent days. Anyway, sorry for all the preface, here we go...
Chosen Excerps from: Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ) / Code of Ethics
SPJ was originally established in 1906 and is voluntarily embraced by more than 10,000 journalists, newsrooms, and classrooms as a guide for ethical behavior, a resource for ethical journalistic decision-making.
Members of the SPJ believe that the duty of the journalist is to seek the truth and provide a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues...Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty...Professional integrity is the cornerstone of his/her credibility.
Seek Truth and Report It: (just an applicable few)
Journalists should:
- Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissable (Really?)
- Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional material, video, audio sound bites, and quotations do not misrepresent, oversimplify or highlight incidents out of context. (Florio-NOT!)
- Never plagerize. (I don't know why they even have this one, it NEVER happens)
- Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting...Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresented as fact or context. (Way too many of these guys to mention)
- Be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information. (OMG, just try it - you might like it!)
Minimize Harm: (Yeah right?)
Journalists should:
- Treat sources, subjects, and colleagues as human beings deserving of respect. (comments posts?)
- Be sensitive when seeking or using interviews of those affected by tragedy of grief. (Broncos '06-'08)
- Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause harm and/or discomfort....Pursuit of the news is NOT a license for arrogance. (This one's for you Dukes)
- Show good taste...Avoid pandering to lurid curosity. (Uh...I think Kilsa failed this part of the test)
Be Accountable: (As in "everything" you or don't do)
Journalists should:
- Clarify and explain news coverage and invite dialoque with the public over your conduct. (Woody would s**t his pants if he had to follow this one...LOL)
- Encourage the public to voice grievances against the news media. (Like that does any good?)
- Admit mistakes and correct them promptly. (LMFAO!!!)
- Abide be the same high standards to which they hold others. (don't they all hang out together-I get it!)
Well that's it guys/gals...I tried to have some fun with it but these excerpts are for real...Not the law, just what the MSM is taught from the time they decide to go down that journalism path...Don't beat me up too bad.
Go Broncos...13-3 Baby (Until otherwise reported)
This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR
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BroncoSense great post and I'm disecting as I'm watching NFLN
They are reporting that Knowshon Moreno may be a high candidate for the ROY award, it would be awesome if he is.
Pray that he stays healthy!
If so, he has a great chance
I have no clue how to use all the tools but Thanks…
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 12, 2009 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I love hearing that they're expecting great things from him
but I can’t believe they’re actually talking ROY for anybody 4 weeks from the first meaningful game. Looks like the pundits are feeling as desperate for real football as we are. : )
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Had to sit back and reflect about this post
I should preface this by saying that my chosen profession is journalism. I am not currently, never was, and never will be a sports journalist. They are a different breed entirely.
As a journalist, your excepts from the SPJ code caught my eye. Yes, they are in fact taught from the day you decide major in journalism. These are very serious guidelines and journalists strive everyday to meet them. Spend a day with a real journalist and you will find that they constantly look to these guidelines to help in their reporting. A majority of the time it’s not black and white. There are tough calls to be made and SPJ created this code to help in these decisions. At first, I felt a little offended by your apparent mocking of something that I strive to follow, but took time to let it digest instead of posting some vitriolic statement right away. I appreciate your research and it does make for a good argument.
As you point out, these are guidelines and SPJ is an organization, but not a governing body. Journalists can choose to follow them or not. It is not the fault of an entire industry (labeled MSM in your post) if one doesn’t.
It should also be pointed out that this code of ethics applies most specifically to reporting. You point out many names. Jaime Dukes, Woody Paige, Mike Klis, and others. All of them are not journalists in my opinion. They are commentators. They write opinion and commentary. As it says under Seek Truth and Report It, “Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting…Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresented as fact or context”. It should be understood that when something is labeled as commentary, it should be taken with a grain of salt. Commentators take far to many liberties with this nowadays, but nonetheless if it is labeled as commentary/opinion I find it hard to fault them under the code. If they report their opinion as fact, then it’s a problem.
But most people don’t distinguish between a real report and a commentary. This can be very dangerous as evidenced by large issues like health care, but let’s not get into that. Another time, another place. This is all the more reason for commentators to look to the COE for guidence, but it’s tough. When many of the best journalists are losing their jobs, it’s easy to fall into a habit of writing whatever will draw the most eyes instead of writing the best you can.
Sports journalism is very susceptible to this because they are writing about an industry that also needs to draw the eyes of millions to sustain itself.
Jaime Dukes gets a lot of your ire. So I find it interesting that you left out the “Act Independently” section of the COE. Dukes works for a network run by the company that it reports on. The job NFLN does is commendable considering the extreme conflict of interest, but people should still be warned of what is reported on NFLN. Dukes is just another cog in the money machine of the NFL. He is not a reporter. He is an entertainment personality and probably has never seen the COE and I’m not sure if he needs to. It’s not his job to report. It’s his job to get millions of eyeballs to watch him so his boss can sell those eyeballs to Under Armor and Gatorade.
Great journalists who followed this COE to the T lost their jobs. It wasn’t because they were bad at their job or because they were causing harm and people stopped reading, it was because of bad business decisions (i.e. let’s give our product away for free to everyone and figure out how to make money later) that they didn’t have any control over.
To wrap up:
1) I appreciate that you looked deeper into journalism and reminded folks about what a journalist should do.
2) There is a difference between reporting and opinion; journalists and commentators
3) This code is used a great deal in real reporting, but entertainers (even bad ones like Dukes) can’t be expected to uphold it, even if it would do them good.
by jwkcsu on Aug 12, 2009 5:33 PM MDT reply actions 19 recs
Thanks and you're right, it CAN be serious
There is much in the Code that I didn’t include for many of the reasons that you mention…Just trying to have some fun with how it relates (?) to some of the discussions that have been going on lately…
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 12, 2009 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions
It doesn't make any difference to me if the guys a commentator or a journalist,
they shouldn’t in any way not tell the truth with an unbiased oppinion, but everybody knows the WWE is fake and just for entertainment…right?? very good read jw.
Great post, and great comments
I too went to school for journalism (I have since switched to graphics so I don’t have practical experience with all of this). However, I think it is extremely important to distinguish between commentators (or columnists) and journalists. They serve totally separate functions. One reports facts and one writes their opinions.
I think the issue with sports journalism is that the line between journalism and commentating is blurred. I am sure there are more, but there is only one true sports journalist that I can think about, and that is Adam Schefter. Rarely, if ever, does he do anything but report facts. Jaime Dukes and most others try to do both, but that is hard to accomplish because no one knows when they are talking as a journalist or as a commentator.
I believe the burden is placed upon the fans to sift through each journalist/commentator’s words and decipher if the statements are meant as fact or opinion. That is the nature of today’s sports reporting world. I don’t think it helps that all fans are extremely protective of their teams and don’t want negative opinions masquerading as fact. For the most part, these negative opinions aren’t going to do the damage falsified information will do in true reporting.
Please don’t lambaste me, because I know the members here at MHR can mostly tell the difference between these things. However, there are occasions when people make a mountain of a mole hill when it comes to those that don’t drink the Broncos kool-aid.
Once again, great original post, original comment and all subsequent comments. Sorry for the book.
by adamriggs on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Appreciate the imput
This post has certainly generated some interesting feedback…
I think the main gripe among some of us has been that too many of the reporter / commentators are not willing to, or maybe don’t care to identify themselves as one or the other and use their platform to dabble in both mediums.
Thamks
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 5:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Great original post
and great response. Both rec’d
I think the one element you both agree on (and that most of us would agree on) is the issue of making a distinction between reporting and opinion.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Aug 12, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
jwk, love the reminder that
in the case of the NFL network “reporters/commentators” we’re looking at the difference between journalists and entertainers. I think that ESPN and some of the other MSM main speakers fall into that same category — they are looking to entertain, titillate, and engage watchers/readers into buying their product.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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by Brian Shrout on Aug 12, 2009 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
jwkcsu....thanks!
its great to get feedback on this in a well thought out and constructive manner. As your comments produced some thoughts for me, I hope I can do the same.
Professionalism- Who belongs to a professional body? Here is a definition which relates to professionalism in general, by a well respected academic…..
A profession is a peculiar type of functional group with highly specialized characteristics. Stenographers, entrepreneurs, advertising copywriters all have distinct functions, but none of them are professional in nature….. A profession involves one who pursues a higher calling in the service of society…… The distinguishing characteristics of a profession as a special type of vocation are its expertise, responsibility, and corporateness.
These excerpts are from Sam Huntington’s “The Soldier and the State”. He goes on to explain through expertise, responsibility, and corporateness what makes a specific function a true profession and its executors professionals in a manner simiiar to doctors and lawyers.
Now this is a friendly blog, why go so academic in this argument?? Because it appears that money and profit are corrupting and destroying journalism as a profession. While certainly there are “professional” journalists in the media, I could name very few (outside of PBS maybe) that deserve the label of “professional” as defined by Huntington.
To keep this short and make a point……..While you rightfully pointed out the difference between Op-ed commentators and real professionals, I think B.Sense has clearly demonstrated a “crisis” in what the journalistic profession believes it is and what it does. It is near impossible to get well researched, in-depth reporting anywhere in anything these days. Least of all, in the sports realm.
For those journalists that would view this code by SPJ as not a governing body and a choice for journalists, I think the “professional” label as described by Huntington does not apply. It becomes a “profession” as a functional group with special characteristics and that is greatly disappointing.
Now while we at MHR should all pay heed to the fact that Paige and Dukes are not professionals, I’m still waiting to find professional MSM reporting on football outside of MHR…..wait, MHR is a blog…..can’t beat it!!
by BideshiBronco on Aug 13, 2009 2:24 AM MDT up reply actions 7 recs
Wow...You guys are amazing
Great thoughts – Excellent points…Thanks
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 5:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Excellent point!
Dan Rather gave a talk at the DNC last summer. In response to a question on how the profession had changed during his time he related that when he entered the profession most of the media heads believe that they had a public trust – an civic duty – to report the news. Rather then related how in the intervening decades the increasing ownership by publicly traded corporations had shifted the emphasis completely. Where Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley were primarily evaluated on their ability to deliver the news and the public’s resulting trust in them to do that, modern news people are evaluated almost entirely on ratings. This creates a systemic bias toward emotionalism and away from rational objectivity.
Sports journalism is just a microcosm of that trend. Add to that the instant access feature of the internet and you create a media constantly competing to be first with a breaking story, loudest with their opinion, and short on followup (who cares about yesterday’s story). Ironically this is exactly what is killing off traditional media. In the past, the value they provided was a form of exclusive access. The press was the only one who had access to the sources (athletes and coaches in sports) and the only one with access to the expertise to analyze the stories.
The internet, team blogs, players blogs, and twitter have torn down the barriers to access to the coaches and athletes. The average interested sports fan has almost as much access today as the press does. Just look at the amount of TC information on MHR. Also, sites like and others this provide the average fan with access to experts who provide much greater in depth analysis and more of it, than traditional media can ever hope to.
The MSM is being overwhelmed by a popular uprising. Like a drowning man, they are frantically thrashing about trying to stay afloat. Hence the become increasingly inflamatory in the hope of attracking more attention, higher ratings. They run with rumours rather than check their facts in the hope of getting the scoop, a scoop that is increasingly futile in the blazingly fast news cycle the internet has fostered. They turn to increasingly questionable sources in the vain hope of finding some unique angle, not realizing that with a million eyes scour for the same information there are no unique sources.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Aug 13, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions 9 recs
Nice comment
There’s no doubt that self-publishing on blogs and other sites has been one reason for the increased “volume” of the media. I think it’s very cyclical. Both of sources drive each other. I want to elaborate more, but I don’t have the time. Hopefully, I’ll get around to doing a full analysis later.
JWKCSU
I appreciate your comments, but I wonder, how much COE is followed by the talking heads on the major news networks?(CNN, MSNBC, and FOX?) I would like to know what their excuse is for paying lip service to the COE?
The only journalists I really appreciate anymore, are the writers for the smaller newspapers that are read only locally or those that are courageous enough to post online. And you of course. ;-)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Anchors should follow COE and are shameful if they don't
I can’t attest to those networks fidelity to the COE as I have never worked at any of them. (For those wondering I work in public radio and I do some freelance writing about music).
I believe that news anchors are journalists and should be held accountable. CNN, MSNBC, and FOX are pushing it with their anchors. Their anchors are trending towards hosts (understatement for sure), somebody more like entertainment show hosts or The View.
It seems they teeter back and forth between following the COE and not, much like they teeter back and forth between anchor and host. My opinion should be an anchor should never give opinion and opinions should be for guests (like say a football player) and color commentators (E.g. Dukes, etc.) and should be labeled as such ("Now let’s get Rod Smith’s opinion.. " or “Now to our opinion columnist Woody Paige.”)
That’s fine, as long as they label it entertainment. However, shows like Morning Joe and Fox Morning present themselves as news shows. I really find cable news despicable and agree with you that the best reporters are the ones working for your local paper.
It seems that their excuse would be that they want to get the ratings of an entertainment show while still seeming to be a “serious” news network. What they don’t realize is that it just doesn’t work. You can’t have your cake and eat it to.
by jwkcsu on Aug 13, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
csu = Colorado State?
Just curious, as I got my journalism degree from CSU in 2005. :-)
Joe Sakic was pure class, win or lose, at all times.
by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 14, 2009 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Contentless he-said/she-said garbage is also a threat
As a former journalist, I guess I see the issue a bit differently than most folks here. My complaint about the press is that they work so hard to avoid the perception of certain kinds of bias, that they abdicate the duty to test the informaiton they have. To know something and report something actual. And thus the plague (documented magnificently by the Columbia Journalism Review) of reporting every issue as a standard conflict between two sides.
Most of my examples are political, so I will avoid them here. Let’s stick with Pork Chop. For God’s sake man, do you know anything about football? The guy is so afraid to look like he’s playing favorites, he refuses to use any of the knowledge he possess about the game. Hey, Bill, is such-and-such a good player? Yeah, sure, he can contribute. A huge part of the journalist’s duty is to be an expert on a subject. Burying that expertise in the service of a misplaced notion of fairness is, to my mind, a terrible (and sneaky!) violation of the code of ethics. If you know something reaks, or that somebody’s failing, and you write a piece saying “there’s controverysey,” you’ve abdicated your duty no less than Jamie Dukes does every hour.
by Chibronx on Aug 12, 2009 7:24 PM MDT reply actions 8 recs
Amen!
Forced equanimity makes for the worst kind of relativism. There is a difference between objectivity — which journalists should strive for — and neutrality, which is something that they need not strive for, particularly if doing so means surrendering informed judgment.
by JeffG on Aug 12, 2009 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Another excellent point!
if “reasonable” journalist abdicate their informed opinion for the sake of “fairness” then they also abdicate the profession to those who have no such compunction.
Another Rec!
by SlowWhiteGuy on Aug 12, 2009 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with everything said on this page!
I rec’d the post and that terrific rebuttal. The post because you did the work, and the comments for the brilliant clarification. I believe that for the record the word “MSM” was to be considered the Sports MSM only, in this post. jwk, I appreciate where you are coming from and making the distinction understood. Before this, I had considered most of the media was made up of people whose opinions I did not value above my own. To be fair, most of them did not rate consideration to be journalists either. Nice learning experience, Thanks all.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
I appreciate all the comments
There have been many comments on on a number of other posts (Genie Wants Out, Preach it, Josh!, and others) and the resulting comments that inspired my post…Special thanks to jwkcsu for your insightful additions, thanks…There was no disrespect intended to the true professional, but somehow I get the feeling that you know that already…
As I have said before, I truly relish the day I came upon MHR…You are all a blast!
Can’t wait till Friday night…Let’s all have a great year…Go Broncos
what a fantastic post and follow up
great job guys, you all wore out my rec’er!
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 13, 2009 1:59 AM MDT reply actions
Thanks styg
Your approval is very well respected and I appreciate your acknowledgement
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 5:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow!
I log in to get my daily dose of orange and blue news and see that this thread has exploded with great thoughts and responses.
Thanks for all the comments and recs. I appreciate it.
Thanks to BroncoSense again for a great post.
Jamie Dukes and the rest can have their opinion..
It doesn’t matter. We don’t vote to see who wins these games. At the end of the day, the men in the arena play the game. And the Broncos are going to kick some tail. And all the haters can eat crow! Go Bronco
In a nutshell
anything that is not revealed in a meaningful game is pure speculation. Could not agree with you more, JR. Play ball!!! (whoops, wrong sport) Go Broncos!!!
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thread of the Month!
I regret I have but one rec to give BSense and jwkcsu, as this is really a phenomenal post and thread. If you’re up for a challenge, you guys should try to get together and collaborate on a post synthesizing your views into a treatise on sports media coverage of the Denver Broncos. That would be a nice little addition to the MHR canon!
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 10:25 AM MDT reply actions
Wow (patting my heart)
I was truly just trying to provide some additional perspective (and a humorous slant) to the posts (and comments) by our friends Sharpe as a Tack (Preach it, Josh) and Agent Jerry Fletcher (The Genie Wants Out)…I appreciate all the interest and nice words but I must say that I am also humbled by the addition to the effort by the comments by jwkcsu and all the others that added to the content…
I not so sure about your suggestion as I I’m not so sure that I could add much value as a partner to the obviously well infomed jwkcsu…
Thanks…Go Broncos 13-3 (until reported otherwise)
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
A Challenge Indeed
It certainly would be interesting to me to explore this topic more. I welcome any help. I certainly don’t have all the time in the world and collaboration is great. That’s what the internet should be for.
If anyone if up for at least brainstorming ideas, my email is on my profile.
there are no prerequisites for brilliance - everybody here brings their own perspective
That’s why I enjoyed your posts. Great organization, great conversation fodder, and great humor. I think pairing the perspective of a beleagured reader with the perspective of a trained specialist would be great.
Just a suggestion guys. No worries.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmmm...(sounds of gears turning)
Quick Dorothy, more oil…
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Great post
And very interesting comments on it- rec’d.
For those interested in this particular topic, I highly recommend watching the movie “Network”. It really speaks to the issues addressed here, and why the media’s in such a state. I find it amazingly interesting how accurate the predictions were, considering the movie was released in 1976.
by AllBroncsallday on Aug 13, 2009 10:48 AM MDT reply actions
Thanks
i remember it well…Great movie
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Great Movie
Just watched it the other night via online. At first the movie seems over the top, but after you consider today’s cable news and talk radio, it really isn’t. Add in some great performances and incredible dialogue and you have a classic flick.
LOVE that movie!
I die laughing so hard my sides hurt every time I watch Laureen Hobbs the b*da$$ commie girl b*tching about her distribution costs!
Don’t f**k with my distribution costs! I’m making a lousy two-fifteen per segment and I’m already deficiting twenty-five grand a week with Metro! I’m paying William Morris ten percent off the top, and I’m giving this turkey ten thou per segment, and another five to this fruitcake! And Helen, don’t start no sh*t about a piece again! I’m paying Metro twenty-thousand for all foreign and Canadian distribution, and that’s after recoupment!
The Communist Party’s not gonna see a nickel of this g*ddamn show until we go into syndication!
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Great Ahmed Kahn: [fires off his gun through the ceiling] Man, give her the F**KING overhead clause.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Awesome All!
I think we have experienced some growth and understanding here with this post.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Thanks KK
Obviously, it was a MHR Team effort…I was just running fullback…LOL
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
This year
I think you’re probably more of an H-back. ; )
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice...Peyton Hillis move over
Truth be told, I was actually a MLB-TE-Long Sapper-ST mean SOB (when I put my helmet on)…Boy that was a long time (and 9 surgeries) ago, when some of us went “all ways”
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, i think it's gonna be hard for me
to lump all pundits under a single MSM umbrella from now on. Henceforth, if I have a problem with what somebody writes, I’ll try to single them out by name, and maybe use CW (conventional wisdom) instead, since that’s always an easy target. ; )
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Brilliant!
What a neat discourse! It’s really thought-provoking, and rec’d of course. Thanks to all of you!
" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "
Great post and comments
This deserves an “Around SBN” headline mention for its quality of content and relavence to the larger community. I’m sure that fans of every team and sport have similar issues with their relationship to sports media from time to time.
"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton
Don't know how that works odarol, but...
MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!
by BroncoSense72 on Aug 13, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions

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