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Ryan Torain released after knee injury

Denver Broncos running back Ryan Torain flips the ball back to a coach during the NFL football team's training camp in Englewood, Colo., on Monday, July 27, 2009. (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski)

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3 months ago: Denver Broncos running back Ryan Torain flips the ball back to a coach during the NFL football team's training camp in Englewood, Colo., on Monday, July 27, 2009. (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski)

The Denver Broncos released RB Ryan Torain after he was diagnosed with a PCL sprain in his knee, Head Coach Josh McDaniels said after today's practice.  Torain, who has battled injuries throughout his college and pro career, was attempting to make the team despite the crowded backfield.

This is a sad situation, to be sure.  Torain has talent but his upright running style leaves his legs especially susceptible.  Mike Shanahan stuck with Torain last season after he dislocated his elbow, essentially leaving a roster spot open for him for 7 weeks.  Josh McDaniels isn't as forgiving, nor should he be.  The Broncos need 53 healthy bodies when the season opens. 

Here's hoping Torain finally gets healthy and can reach his potential.  It appears that won't happen in Denver, however.

One side-note.  The Broncos could bring Torain back should he clear waivers.  If that happens, the Broncos could place him on IR.

The team reportedly signed RB Marcus Thomas to take Torain's spot on the roster.

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Poor Ryan Torain...

I’m feeling with him…

by DjBroncos on Aug 12, 2009 4:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Don;t get me wrong...

I definitely feel for the guy and I never want to see ANYONE get hurt. But it is time to trim the fat and remove the “IF’s”. I am sick and tired of relying on guys that can’t stay healthy.

Another example of the “Winds of Change”….

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by John Bena on Aug 12, 2009 4:43 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

the morneo selection

keeps looking better and better

by Skotty on Aug 12, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Definitely

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno=ROY

by stedtfeld on Aug 12, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you John!

Nevertheless I feel with Torain…

by DjBroncos on Aug 12, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said it.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 12, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torain

That always seemed to be a hallmark of the Shanny era, especially in the last couple of years. Keeping guys around that keep getting hurt (Nate Jackson, Selvin Young).

by MacGuffin on Aug 12, 2009 4:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY MY POINT!

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by John Bena on Aug 12, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Jackson

Wasn’t Nate “Groin Pull” Jackson one of your whipping boys? I remember in some of your old podcasts you often asked how long old Nate was going to last until he blew out a knee or pulled a groin muscle.

by MacGuffin on Aug 12, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, he was looking good in camp, too

wasn’t he? Bummer he couldn’t beat the bug. But the team’s response is the right one.

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 12, 2009 4:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Why did we sign a RB

Named Marcus Thomas? We already have a Marcus Thomas. That is going to get extremely confusing for me. Watch me go and draft a defensive lineman in the official MHR league fantasy draft. lol

I do feel bad for Torain. He had great potential and was one of the standouts at camp. You could tell that he was really putting in a lot of work to make the team, and the coaches were noticing him as he was steadily getting more and more first-team reps. I’ll root for him to stick somewhere this season.

No stairway... Denied!

by papigrande on Aug 12, 2009 4:57 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I can see it now

Marcus Thomas runs for a hundred yards. Marcus Thomas sacks the QB. Not since Larsen’s two way performance……oops, different guy, never mind.

"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas

by Colinski on Aug 12, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all part of the continuing McDaniels Masterplan

to astonish the pundits.

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 12, 2009 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remeber all those dozens of running backs that Denver was supposed to have?

Good forethought to bring in the ones that we have – and our new running back, Marcus Thomas

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 12, 2009 4:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

There's not much

Here is his stat page with pro-football-reference.com. He was drafted in the 5th round by San Diego las year, returned 4 times for 93 yards and never played in the regular season.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 12, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I posted this on the other link where you asked, but here is his page at pro-football-reference.com. He was drafted in the 5th round of the 2008 draft by San Diego, nver carried in a regular season game and returned 4 times for 93 yards, total. He’s 6’2 and 217 lb.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 12, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad but it's a tough business

And if you can’t stay healthy it doesn’t matter HOW good you are

by BroncoSense72 on Aug 12, 2009 5:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Shame

Seems like a good kid and has talent but you know something? As much as I like Shanahan, late in his tenure his predilection for picking ‘bargain basement’ guys – players who fell to the lower rounds because they are injury prone, or free agents with dodgy health histories – really started to drive me nuts. How much time and money have the Broncos expended on these players? It isn’t fair to them, to the team or to the fans.

I sure am sorry to see things turn out like this for Torain because he’s a hard worker and a good person, but they never should have drafted him.

The other side of this is that to my mind, this further vindicates the notion that regardless of how things eventually turn out McDaniels and his crew DO have a plan and they DO know what they’re doing, whether it is easy to see from our perspective or not.

by TheMastermind on Aug 12, 2009 5:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Last year I started to cringe at the number of 'Durability' issues that our players had

I liked Shanahan a lot. Still, one of the things that I hated was his ‘push the envelope’ system of player evaluation. He seemed to think that a player would magically not be injured any longer if Denver picked him up – gave me heartburn. I wish all the best for Torain, but so far his injury history has to be making other teams wary.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 12, 2009 5:44 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Should increase Jersey sales

for M. Thomas Jersies. Best wishes Torain, would love to see you back on the team healthy!

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Aug 12, 2009 6:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldnt they have put him on the PUP?

or does that still count against the 53 man roster?

by purplesocks on Aug 12, 2009 6:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

can't PUP

after the attend camp.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Aug 13, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

perspective

Professional football isn’t a sentimental game. Torain’s injury would have required a ‘long-ish’ recovery (longer than he or we had) or surgery at worst, and he wouldn’t have been able to win a position on the team. Waiving him may seem harsh but it wasn’t a knock against him so much as a realistic decision based on the fact that he wouldn’t win a position on the team unless he could play. We could view his waiver as an act directed at him but it’s really an acknowledgment that there are other players who can contribute more to the team. I like Torain but I like some other players, too, and if we were to keep Torain on at the price of cutting someone else then the question would be why didn’t we like that other player.

Torain’s career isn’t over unless he decides to retire, so there’s still a future for him if he wants to continue. Team’s aren’t going to look at his injury history favorably but there’s a place for him if he can play, and play well.

"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas

by Colinski on Aug 12, 2009 6:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Dang...

He was (and still is) a pretty good player. I can just see the Chargers or Raiders picking him up so they could shove him down our throat at some point…

by Merlin Scott on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

From where, the training table?

Not to worry, amigo- the poor guy simply can’t stay healthy, and that won’t change for the dolts or faiders.

by AllBroncsallday on Aug 13, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best wishes to Torain

I hope he gets another chance elsewhere

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on Aug 12, 2009 7:26 PM MDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

One thing is for sure....

McDaniels practices are harder and if you’re not cut out to make it through healthy you won’t be here based solely on your potential.

Bad luck for Torain, but a new coach can’t afford to gamble on the last coaches unhealthy/potential players. He needs people who are going to contribute and this is Torain’s 4th major injury in less than 3 years. Not a good track record for a RB.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Aug 12, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Best of luck to Torain.

I like his grandma…

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 12, 2009 8:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You dirty little man!

LMAO.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 12, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now settle down...

His Grandma is a member of MHR. She posts here every so often. Give the woman some respect. She loves us and we love her. Best of luck… I for one hope he clears and we can put him on IR.

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by YellowStoneBronco on Aug 12, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My apologies

No disrespect intended to the Lady in question. My funny bone was itching.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 12, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

She does? Under what name?

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 12, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's RT4HOF, isn't it!

Isn’t it! lol

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 12, 2009 10:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

aw crud, that reply was meant for weazel above. I see it’s time to go to sleep. Gnite MHR.

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 12, 2009 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame about Torain

Hate to see unfulfilled potential, especially through no fault of his own. He seems like an intelligent, hardworking young man.

Does anybody know how these situations are settled financially?

This is the “business” side of football… but in no prominent business I know can an employer cast away an employee who was injured on the job without some sort of settlement… or looking at a lawsuit. How does it work in the NFL?

by BuckarooBanzai on Aug 12, 2009 11:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This is unfortunate.

Best of luck to Ryan.

"How dare you condemn me without knowing all the facts?!!"

by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 13, 2009 12:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

It is always unfortunate to see potential lost to injuries. Having suffered through two ACL surgeries on my right knee I can somewhat relate.

The hardest part about injuries can be mental and it seemed that he easily overcame that aspect. My hat is off to him for coming back as strong as he did time and time again, and best of luck in the future with whoever he ends up with (here is hoping that it is sooner than later).

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by Choochoobonewagon on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Too Bad

I received my Bronco team Topps cards only a week after they were released. Ryan Torain was one of the players to have a card this year. My first thought was “What a waste”, he probably won’t make the team. I would have preferred Clady who has yet to get his mug on a Topps card.

About playing against Joe Namath "He's the best in the Business, he can do everything, but I've never seen a Quarterback yet that can throw on his back." - Dave Costa 1969

by Denver Diehard on Aug 13, 2009 7:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Offensive Lineman and Football Cards

Diehard, I agree with you on Clady and on the mistreatment of offensive lineman in the selection of players to display on cards. While I understand that “skill” players get all of the press and attention, it is a real shame that players like Claudie Minor and Mark Schlereth never got their mugs on Bronco football cards.

by Baltimore Bronco on Aug 13, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Move

Well, let me again argue that I think it is a bad sign from the new Bronco braintrust. In the past, Denver has generally stuck by its players and not let injuries get in the way of strong potential. I would have found a way to cut him at the last cut, then moved him on to the practice squad (if that is possible). Or, at least put him on injured reserve.

I think it was a hasty move. A team might be well advised to pick him up and work with him. I hope this doesn’t bite us.

by Baltimore Bronco on Aug 13, 2009 7:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He may still hit the practice squad

if he clears waivers.

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 13, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy’s been injured his entire career. “Potential” simply doesn’t win games- performance does. I like the guy’s running style, but he simply can’t stay healthy enough to perform on the field.

You’re right, in the past, the team would’ve kept the guy on the roster. But then again, the past is the past, isn’t it. Me, I’m glad for the change.

by AllBroncsallday on Aug 13, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Torain too, but I’m sick of keeping guys around who can’t stay healthy. Besides, what has Torain really done to earn a roster spot?

by MacGuffin on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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