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Horse Tracks 8/16/09 - Knowshon reportedly out one to two weeks

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DB - Sunday’s Practice Closed to Public

DP - Moreno's recovery likely one to two weeks
Knowshon reportedly has a sprained MCL in his left knee.

DP - Quarterback controversy? Broncos say no - Mike Klis

NFP - Sunday at the Post
Lombardi thinks the Broncos looked "extremely well-coached" on Friday and that McDaniels will be a "very good head coach." He also offers a glowing review of Knowshon Moreno.

DP - Gaffney plugs holes in McDaniels' offense - Jim Armstrong
Jabar Gaffney understands his role with the Broncos, even though deep down inside he still wants to be a star. It sounds like his years in New England gave him an excellent sense of team and humility.

DP - Kiszla: B-Marsh's priority should be winning
Kiszla wants to see Brandon Marshall commit himself to helping the Broncos win in '09, contract extension or not.

LTC - Bailey still searching - Brian Howell
Champ says he's got a lot left in the tank, despite his aches and pains. While he used to care about the individual accolades, he says he just wants a ring now.

DP - Klis: Familiar start to season for McDaniels
Matt Cassel didn't exactly have a great start to the preseason in '08. Personally, I remember the calls for Cassel to be dropped to third string. How'd that work out?

DP - McBean taking advantage of his fresh start with a new defense - Jeff Legwold
Knowshon's was the only reported injury from Friday night. Meanwhile, Ryan Torain cleared waaivers and reached an injury settlement with the Broncos.

DP - Paige: Learn to live with Orton at QB
Woody is ready to give Kyle Orton a chance. I think.

TSN - Broncos coach McDaniels not afraid of change - Clifton Brown

SBN - Better Know a Blogger: Mile High Report's John Bena
He didn't tell the rest of us about this, and I don't know if he wanted me to find this, but I did! Sorry, John (not really).

Star-divide

NFP - Weekend notes: Preseason action
Bowen thinks another clunker from Orton could mean a QB controversy

DB - A Few Minutes With Kenny McKinley - Broncos TV
Kenny says he's following Eddie Royal around like a little brother.

DP - After watching Orton, I'll stick with Rockies
Kiszla responds to emails

CSG - Broncos not worried about poor showing; Moreno sprains MCL - Frank Schwab

HL - Grateful Lodish part of Rice's 1st Hall of Fame class

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SDUT - Despite loss, Chargers healthy; Tomlinson, Merriman see action

SDUT - You can bet LT would've sat if Coryell were calling shots

SDUT - Gates looks sharp, gets a full workout early

KCS - Chiefs’ offense bogs down in 16-10 loss to Texans

KCS - Haley’s punishment of Bowe hurts Chiefs instead - Jason Whitlock

CCT - Asomugha's support helps Raiders land Manning Jr.

SFC - RAIDERS TRAINING CAMP / McFadden angling for larger role

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NFL - Seattle Seahawks 20 at San Diego Chargers 14

NFL - Houston Texans 16 at Kansas City Chiefs 10

NFL - Chicago Bears 20 at Buffalo Bills 27

NFL - Atlanta Falcons 26 at Detroit Lions 27

NFL - Cleveland Browns 0 at Green Bay Packers 17

NFL - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 20 at Tennessee Titans 27

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NFL - Ravens WR Smith out for season with knee injury; QB Beck feeling better

NFL - Marching back in: Veteran kicker Carney returns to Saints

NFL - Vick shows off strong throwing arm in first practice with Eagles

FOX - Vick shines in first practice with Eagles - Alex Marvez

NFP - Pros and Cons of Vick in Philly - Robert Boland

PFW - Tatupu helps Curry during Seattle rookie's holdout - NFC Whispers

CBS - Jaguars camp report: Holt works in shadows with young Jags - Pete Prisco

ESPN - Eli Manning seeks a comfort zone - Chris Mortensen

ESPN - Camp Confidential: Colts like their changes

NFP - 2009 NFP scouting series: Washington State - Wes Bunting

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thx NYC & Happy Sunday

Lombardi was a good read this morning

by Jenna Talia on Aug 16, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, NYC

Especially for the links to highlights of some games. Cutler’s INT was classic Jay – under pressure, he threw it up for grabs. At least it was way downfield, so as good as a punt (I don’t know what the down was).
Have a nice day. So far it is sunny and nice here in Colorado, although the forecast was for rain and cold.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.
From The Big Law, by Chuck Logan

by bradley on Aug 16, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

TY NYC

Thing about Cutler I noticed was that he was still locking onto one guy and trying to force it between 3 people. Even sportscenter circled a low dumpoff receiver he had wide open when he threw his pick.

He is a gunslinger and you will get the good and bad. Other than that the Chicago scheme seemed mundane. I expect they haven’t implemented anything yet. At least I hope so for Chicago. It is preseason, doesn’t mean much.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 16, 2009 10:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

totally agree

with those points, after watching same highlights. I’m really not rooting against Cutler (even after his recent comments) and expect him to end up with a ton of yards and the Bears with a good record, but he’s going to do some of the same maddening things he’s always done, and even though Chicago’s a good team overall he’s going to struggle more without having the same outlet guys to rely on. He threw to Brandon Marshall alone a lot, sometimes relying on BMarsh’s height to win free for alls, and going to Royal a lot too. I’d argue the Broncos first three recievers are all better than the Bears’ first (not to open that can of worms again) but they have some good TEs and RBs so he might adjust to throw to them more often, and go for the long bombs to someone like Hester. It will be interesting to see what adjustments he does make this season, if he matures in necessary ways.

by underdog on Aug 16, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing number of links

I read one other article this morning from a 49ers perspective, called First Drive Diagnosis going play by play on Denver first defensive series.

by DBinKC on Aug 16, 2009 10:02 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Nyc

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 16, 2009 10:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The Audacity of Hopelessness
Now the Broncos can only hope their 25-year-old receiver is willing to give Josh McDaniels the same chance to acquit himself of charges he’s unqualified to be an NFL coach.

This DPO teaser panders to the average Bronco fan. Probably makes some tingle in the loins. But this is what it has come to in Bronco Nation— Brandon Marshall has become THE tragic protagonist who will save us from Josh McD…and people obviously lap this crap up like the finest indonesian goat’s cream or something. Get arrested a lot, put in a pouty trade request, stand at a Bronco podium and act like a passive-agressive teen-aged victim and take shots at the organization, and win the hearts and minds of the ‘faithful’ all at once.

Wow. What a proud era in Broncos fandome.

by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 16, 2009 10:11 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This stuff is sad.

I guarantee coaches around the league saw what McD threw out in that first drive and got scared. This is a well coached team that needs to get it all together.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 16, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great find on the GURU

and thanks for the horsetracks

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Aug 16, 2009 10:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, NYC.

"How dare you condemn me without knowing all the facts?!!"

by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 16, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Best news from any post-game article
" The Broncos reported no injuries other than running back Knowshon Moreno (knee) following their preseason opener. . . . " (on the DP)

Glad Knowshon is gonna be okay too.

Btw, I might be in the minority here but I actually think Jabar G is going to be a fairly valuable backup WR this season. Sort of a hunch, sort of based on how he looked in practice (more than how he looked in first game) and knowing he can help off the field, too… but I think as a #4 he’ll be pretty good.

And thanks nyc as always.

by underdog on Aug 16, 2009 10:41 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He better be pretty good.

You are not in the minority. Most of Bronco Nation expects Jabar Gaffney to make an impact in 2009. He scored a nice contract and we expect him to perform to the level of his pay. Coming for NE and this system, the expectations for him are rightfully pretty high.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yah

though we’ve paid some other wide receivers very high salaries who ended up mediocre backups or on IR (names withheld to protect innocent) and even with Gaffney’s contract I don’t know if there are any guarantees. Maybe he’s even overpaid as a 4th guy (assuming Royal, Marshall and Stokely are the first 3) but again I think he’ll be valuable in a few different ways. I guess my expectations weren’t sky high for him given just all the other free agent WR busts the Broncos have had, I just expect him to be better than that at least.

by underdog on Aug 16, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God!

I was worried about Knowshon, but I felt pretty good about his condition. I remember saying after one play, when he jumped back up I thought he was limping. He didnt come off the field that play, however, and they called a drive up the gut. He seemed like he didnt have near the same power as he went down, trying to drive backwards, pretty easily.

He came out after that play, I think the coaches noticed on that play. The fact he was able to make another play though, told me it was probably just a hamstring pull or something, not a tear in anything that would take a whole season to heal.

But still a relief as I was worried knowing he was injured.

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2009 10:46 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Worried about Moreno

I got real worried when I realized he was hurt after we got intercepted – same way TD got hurt. Good to hear he’s going to be OK. It’ll set him back some more, but he’ll be fresh in October.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.
From The Big Law, by Chuck Logan

by bradley on Aug 16, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Is Kenny McKinley making your final roster? How are you guys feeling about him? I am a HUGE south carolina fan and really, really hope he makes it with you. He looked really good the other night

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Aug 16, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He has enough value on ST too that

I think he will make the final team (imho). He clearly has talent. I saw the game in person Friday and thought he looked both very good at times and at other times like the rookie he is (some mistakes, but that’s to be expected). Maybe he’ll be a practice squad player at worst though I don’t know if he’d clear waivers. Anyway I like his future!

by underdog on Aug 16, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he will clear waivers either

what round did you take him?

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Aug 16, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Round 5. And no, he would not clear waivers. Young TD scoring WRs with speical teams skills never make it thru waivers.

He’ll make the team before a Chad Jackson or B Lloyd. I think two of these three will make the team (one being McKinley).

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to snap him up for the colts haha

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Aug 16, 2009 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never happen

McKinley makes the team even if we only keep 5 wide receivers (which is what I think will happen – plus 4 tight ends – Putzier had a very good game).

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.
From The Big Law, by Chuck Logan

by bradley on Aug 16, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’d get snapped up by a team like Detroit or KC long before Indy had a shot.

It’s a mute point though. He’ll make the Broncos. His TD the other night was all him (great broken down play recognition). The kid still has a ways to go, but he displays cerebral skills that are invaluable to the WR position.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2009 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

His smarts and moxie stood out as much as his physical talent. I’d say he’s a keeper.

by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 16, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I have no clue...

…what to look for with 3-4 DL because I seem to be the only one that thought McBean was a problem on Friday. I know he got a sack, but he seemed to get dominated and driven away from the action on run plays very consistently.

What did I miss?

by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 16, 2009 11:33 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he was just protecting his gap

I think it was on his sack play when it looked like the OL had him tied up. Then the QB moved to the right a little and McBean just shed his blocker and got the QB.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.
From The Big Law, by Chuck Logan

by bradley on Aug 16, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 10 pick Andre Smith has not yet signed with Cincy (our 1st opponent). Not sure if that is a good or bad thing for Denver.

Part of me wants our OLBs and DEs going against a rookie in his first pro game. Another part of me knows Clady was pretty damn good from the get go and would rather not play against a talent like Andre Smith. Maybe best case is he signs a week or two before the opener and we get to play against a rookie that missed most of camp. Either way, Andre Smith’s holdout is a good thing for Denver.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2009 1:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Take

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 16, 2009 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points, McG

I am taking heart from Smith’s history – when not being carefully watched and cornered like a rat in a trap, his tendency has been to gain weight, get out of shape and generally lose his edge. That being the case, I’d like to see him hit camp about 2 weeks before the end of preseason – just enough to get to play, not even close to enough to be fully ready. Hey, we’ve got our own issues – I’ll take all the help we can get!

I’m constantly astounded by Cincy – they keep right on taking players who have serious character issues and still get upset that those players don’t magically improve their personalities. I’ve honestly thought that Smith has more bust potential than any other player in the 2009 draft. I guess that we’ll see.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 16, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks NYC

I really liked the parts in the article on NFP about the Broncos, especially Moreno. I saw it on his first play that this kid has got some speed. Boy is it going to be fun to see him break one open…..kiss him goodbye. Good to see someone looked more into the game than most MSM.

On McKinley: I agree with the other posters on that I think he will make the roster. McGeorge said it best about his late TD. He really did a good job of extending the play as Simms was rolling out.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 16, 2009 7:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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