Horse Tracks 8/19/09 - LK Smith practices with Broncos; Favre shows again why Elway is The Greatest Ever
by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 19, 2009 5:48 AM MDT
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DB - Day 19: McDaniels - Broncos TV
McD talks about Le Kevin Smith; plus, he says BMarsh and BDawk may play this week in Seattle.
DB - Day 19: Report - Broncos TV
First words from Le Kevin Smith as a Bronco, who didn't find many surprises in his initial practice with the team.
DB - Setting Foot on New Turf - Zach Eisendrath
More on Smith, who was welcomed yesterday by several familiar faces.
DB - Day 19 Blog - Gray Caldwell
DP - Alphonso Smith bringing ballhawk style - Jeff Legwold
Alphonso has been active in practice - returning punts and kicks, working as the top nickelback and stepping in for Champ at times. McDaniels says what makes a cornerback is not his size or hands; it's his vision and anticipation.
DN - Jets looking to make trade for wide receiver with Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe on radar
Hmm. Start by offering your first-rounder; then, we'll talk...
TJ - Brandstater didn’t get to play but he understands the process
Tom Brandstater's hometown paper checks in on him.
SI - Minnesota Vikings are making mistake with Brett Favre - Peter King
Just when everyone at MHR is ready to boycott him, PK comes through with some non-regurgitated writing. He allows that Orton's INTs may have been the result of him not being used to having so much pass protection, that Alphonso Smith might make everyone forget the 1st-rounder Denver traded, and that no team wants the 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft.
IDT - NFL analyst’s promise of ‘bombshell out of Denver’ fizzles
Well, how about this...John's story on Jamie Dukes got picked up by INDenver Times...nicely done, Guru!
DP - Disgruntled Marshall back at Broncos' camp - Lindsay Jones
DP - Le Kevin Smith finds Broncos not all strangers - Lindsay Jones
DP - Paige: AFC West looking like land of the lost
Woody isn't impressed by the Broncos' division mates.
CSG - Running backs happy for even a long shot - Frank Schwab
Marcus Thomas and Marcus Thigpen are fighting for a spot that may not even be there...
CSG - Tuesday's Broncos camp at a glance - Frank Schwab
CSG - Broncos notes: Marshall not slacking - Frank Schwab
AP - Smith shipped to Denver for draft pick - Arnie Stapleton
BDC - Woelk: True fullbacks a disappearing football species
AFC West News
SFC - Raiders: NFL investigating Cable-Hanson altercation
Stay Classy, Jokeland...
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Schilens breaks foot
SFG - Schilens' injury a bigger blow
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Tuesday practice notes
SI - Tom Cable assaulting a fellow coach would be par for the course with Raiders - Joe Posnanski
It's hard to argue with that notion...
FOX - What did you expect from the Silver and Black? - Kevin Hench
SDUT - Shaun Phillips ready to start chase
SDUT - Rookie Vasquez is back on the practice field
SDUT - Burnett gets 'Mo' action
SDUT - Defensive end Bingham out for now with torn triceps
KCS - Chiefs camp buzz: Haley not talking about Cassel’s play
NFL News/Analysis
NFL - Colts CB Hayden out 3 to 4 weeks with bad hamstring; Jackson also hurt
NFL - Bucs' Jackson suspended four games for violating substance-abuse policy
NFL - Jets' Ryan clarifies remarks on Belichick but likely provides more fodder
Y! - CBA negotiations described as 'PR show' - Jason Cole
SI - Preseason Week 1, Winners/Losers - Don Banks
SI - Mike Singletary has 49ers going in right direction at camp - George Dohrmann
SI - Falcons out to make history with back-to-back winning seasons - Andrew Lawrence
SI - Tom Brady, veteran Patriots have sights on another Super Bowl - Ben Reiter
CBS - Dolphins camp report: Left tackle Long fortifies Fins' future - Pete Prisco
Y! - Rodgers making fast progression to elite QB - Charles Robinson
NFP - Diner morning news: The Reid-Vick connection - Mike Lombardi
PFW - Colts' captain spreads message of hope
NFP - 2009 NFP scouting series: Iowa - Wes Bunting
Brett Favre - Well, at least we don't have to read anymore "Will he? Won't he?" articles for ohh, another 4 months...
NFL - Despite rotator cuff injury, Favre decides he's ready to return
NFL - Favre returns (again): QB signs with Vikings, hopes for Super Bowl
NFL - Packers react to Favre's signing with Vikings
SI - Favre's a Viking, but is he a villain? - Don Banks
FOX - Favre takes self-centered behavior to new extreme - Alex Marvez
CBS - Selfish Favre returns to feed ego, not help Vikings win - Pete Prisco
NFP - Favre completes the Vikings - Matt Bowen
CBS - Favre will do more to hurt Vikings than help them - Clark Judge
Y! - Favre officially vilified in Green Bay - Charles Robinson
SI - Brett Favre return to Minnesota Vikings makes him Benedict Arnold - Jeff Pearlman
SI - Brett Favre brings new level of excitement, expectations to Vikes - Steve Aschburner
PFW - Favre’s arrival has dramatic effect on Vikings - Eric Edholm
NFL - Favre's presence turns vanilla Vikings into a spicy, dangerous mix
NYT - Why This Comeback Is a Mistake for Vikings and Favre - KC Joyner
ESPN - The difference between winning and not losing - Kevin Seifert
ESPN - With Favre, nothing's for certain - Len Pasequarelli
ESPN - Brett Favre has left the Green Bay Packers behind, for good - Gene Wojciechowski
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Thanks NYC
As of yesterday, everything is all Brent Favre 24/7, which makes surfing the sporting news unpalatable.
We’ll never forget you Brent.
Thanks NYC
Le Kevin seems like a good guy. Good to add a positive guy who knows the system.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
I handled that.
Peter King was getting out of line. So I made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Yes. I sent Coach Cable to have a word with him.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
The Peter King
I read the column the other day and was wondering if it was a ghost writer or something.
Thanks NYC
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
Favre has been irrelevant ever since Elway kicked his ass in SB XXXII. His legacy will be remembered as a joke, despite his records. Had he retired a Packer, and actually stayed retired, I would have a great deal more respect for him.
by lolcopter on Aug 19, 2009 8:13 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
That is what is sad
This has only just chipped away at his legacy.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
Peter King
Whatever happened to his huge man crush on Brett Favre? He used to looooooove him and his Brett-ness.
I think Peter's had it with Farve
… He’s made King look like a fool too many times in the last 15 months. You’d think Farve’d at least throw him a bone and give him the scoop after all King’s done for him (and you know King’ll be the first one casting the vote for Farve in the Hall of Bias when it comes time for it).
Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.
by Hercules Rockefeller on Aug 19, 2009 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Nyc
Good job Guru!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
My Question on Favre is:
Am I the only one that watched him play last year? I must be, because based on the way he played— especially later in the season— this signing should carry the weight of an A.J. Feeley signing. This guy can’t and won’t save anybody anymore. He is more an anchor than a catalyst at this point, IMO.
And Brett Favre is probably my all-time favorite non-Bronco (though the last couple of years are taxing my patience)…so I don’t think I’m operating from a sour-grapes position here.
Thanks as always NYC.
by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 19, 2009 8:36 AM MDT reply actions
If the Williamses are actually suspended....
Rolling the dice in the passing game, cowboy-style, might be the best play for the team.
They had this same talke last year
about when he signed with the Jets. Are they a contender now? How many games will the Jets win and will they win the East? Well, No and the amount of wins is pointless because they chocked and missed the playoffs. Now here we go again. Are the Vikings one of the top teams in the NFC now. Nooooooooo.
I never had any bad feelings toward Favre til that game against the Broncos on MNF. The annoucers would stop talking about Favre and then with the offseason situtation with GB, my respect for him was gone.
NYC said it best in the headlines of this post “Favre shows again why Elway is the Greatest Ever” Not that there was a debate to begin with.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
I do see one big difference, in that the Jets were a terrible team pre-Favre. He had a lot to do with them looking like contenders (until the Broncos came to town). Yes, they eventually collapsed (much to my Jets-hating delight) – but they did still finish with a winning record at 9-7. No, that’s not what we aim for, but going from a 4-win team to a 9-win team is always impressive and notable – every time.
I’m not saying the results will be different in Minnesota – I have no idea how it will turn out. But, the Vikings need much less out of Favre than the Jets did last year, for what that’s worth…
by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 19, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
ESPN and New York Newsday
reporting that the Broncos are “very concerned” about their running game.
As the story goes, the Broncos hope to have Moreno back for week 1, but they are not at all happy with the depth. Buckhalter’s knees are said to be bothering him, according to the report. And the reporter intimated that he doesn’t think the Broncos consider Hillis a viable second or third option.
From ESPN’s First Take.
That can't be right
Hillis was looking impressive on Friday, as far as I’m concerned. He is the second option at RB. Should they give Tatum Bell a call?
One thing I noticed...
…and this might get me killed here at MHR, but Hillis showed no lateral burst on Friday. They kept pulling the guard, which worked if he cleared the hole, but if Hillis had to try to bounce it, he got stopped. He is pretty easy to tackle low if he can’t line you up.
Long story short— HIllis looked great if he could go down hill. He didn’t look so great when that option was taken away. I remain unconvinced that he is a viable 2nd option at RB and that overusing him as ball-toting TB will mitigate his overall value.
by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 19, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
But Jordan and Buckhalter did less
with our line he should be able to clear the hole frequently and get down hill often.
But I think you’re right he’s more valuable being always on the field as a FB and occasionally getting a carry or a pass.
Maybe we resign Torain once he is healthy.
Jordan looks washed up to me. I have more confidence in Buckhalter. And when Moreno comes back next week, that will be a nice boost.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
I agree about re-signing Torain
no matter what, IF he’s healthy (which is always a big if in his case) he’s going to be a lot better than Lamont Jordan. Buckhalter should be fine.
ESPN is a retard... :)
Hillis is an animal and his 5 yard per carry average supports his ability to carry the rock
Relieved to hear
that the draft pick we gave up for LK Smith is going to Oakland from NE to complete the Burgess trade. I have much more faith in Oakland screwing up a draft pick than NE.
Well the best way to look at it
is that Oakland traded a DE to NE so that they could trade one to us. They subsidized our defense.
Me: Thanks Al… um… Al
Cable: He can’t here you now.
Me: Oh sad, so… how’s the fist?
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
If anyone else is keeping track
Marcus Thigpen is wearing the #38 Jersey. And I believe it has already been stated here, but Le Kevin Smith has #72, Pat Murray’s old number.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
I highly recommend
Lindsay Jones’ live-tweeting of the Broncos practice scrimmage. Some good stuff (and a few encouraging moments.)
Thanks NYC
Good as always and nice to see Guru get some props concerning the Dukes character. Hopefully the media will pay more attention to this site because they will get some valuable information.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Thanks, NYC.
"How dare you condemn me without knowing all the facts?!!"
by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 19, 2009 2:14 PM MDT reply actions
hey a question?
was farve arm surgury the same one that elway had a couple years before he retired? it seem to me that it was a lig injury in his throwing arm. my point is could elway throw much better after that so could farve arm stregth come back?
No
Elway’s was a Bursa sac and Favre’s was a torn Bicep. A bursa is a slippery, sac-like tissue that normally allows smooth movement around bony prominences, such as the point behind the elbow. So you see, they are on opposite sides of the arm.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
Actually Elway ruptured his biceps tendon.
No one knew how it would affect his throwing motion. but it turned out to improve it because pain was gone. Farve also had a biceps tendon tear but in a different area that affects throwing motion more, as well as a rotator cuff tear which definitely affects throwing motion. Elway also had an olecrenon bursa resection which was totally unrelated and didn’t affect his throwing motion. Farve should have less pain throwing now than he did late last season as a result of his surgery.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
No problem
You are way more qualified to answer this question. I was just trying to help out. I was only going by a partial memory. Also, I thought that Favre had more of a rotator cuff type injury, but wasn’t totally sure. Thanks.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 20, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
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