we do have plenty of ‘gruntled’ players. I’m excited to see a week’s worth of progress at preseason game number two.

the Broncos are moving ahead with or without him. If he wants to drag his heels along the way, that’s his issue. 104.3 the Fan is reporting that the Jets made an offer for him… If it’s good enough, I say let’s go with it. Good riddance.

J

You are totally right about the situation. How can you say you are committed to the team when, even with a several week injury layoff, you don’t bother to learn the playbook.

As far as I am concerned. McD is saying – look you have no leverage and don’t even cost us that much. If you prepare like a scout team player you will work there. If you prepare like a #1 wr you will work there. You are under contract with this team and when you act like it you will play.

Does marshall think (a la crabtree) that sitting on the sidelines all year will net him a big free agent contract? Apparently so…

he didn’t have the offseason, the broncos don’t give out playbooks unless you are there — he wasn’t here so no playbook for him

McDaniels actually addressed this [a little] on his latest interview on denverbroncos.com

BM is a BEAST and a top notch athlete that gives apposing coaches sleepless nights……

On the other hand his conduct off the field and during the off season leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth. A less talented player would have been gone a long long long time ago!

Shakespeare said it best " Parting is such sweet sweet sorrow"

Great piece…very informative!

 Trade the moron for whatever we can get. Get rid of the headache. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE to not know the playbook by now. I can see a player not being able to execute it perfectly yet. But when was McD hired? Marshall has had more than enough time to learn the playbook. My god,we have rookies that have learned it. If he isn’t more dedicated than that, I say bury his diva butt on the depth chart and get whatever you can for him. I’m sorry but if I am McD, I am completely pissed that B-Dork doesn’t know the playbook and I am in full support of him running 2nd or 3rd team. Why let him drag the other guys down, and why jump him over guys that have been here every day all summer. You know Fitz may not run gunner, but I’ll bet he would if he thought that would help his team win. You think Jerry Rice wouldn’t do whatever it took to win? How about EddieMac? How about Rod Smith? How many Super Bowls have Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, and Keyshawn Johnson won? If B-Dork wants to act like them, then get him the hell out of here. Sorry but my patience with BM is long gone.

 I am so sick of Broncos drama. Seriously…I can’t handle anymore. What the hell happened to this team? We’ve become a football soap opera.

You want to be paid like one of the best receivers in the game and you don’t even know your playbook? What kind of message does that show, it shows that you dont take your craft seriously, it shows that you are immature when thinks dont go your way, and it shows that you have no problem letting your teammates down by not giving your best effort for the team. I understand that you are disgruntled but I know you love your teammates so if you don’t want to work hard for the broncos, at least work hard for your teammates! I honestly think this will end up being about nothing, he will learn the playbook because I still don’t think Marshall has any quit in him and this will eventually blow over……

Until his attitude changes, he is a sideline poison the team would be best served without. I say bench him but don’t trade him or discuss contract extensions until he proves his hip, checks his attitude and becomes a team player. Anything less would reward the man-child for ridiculousness and tell the Ryan’s, Royal, Scheff, Hillis and others exactly how to get whatever they want whenever they want it

If Marshall stays with Denver and DOESN’T learn the playbook, Denver will waste a member of the 53 roster on him because they won’t cut him. If they can’t get a good trade for him, he’s going to waste a spot that could have gone for someone that wants to be here.

That’s a really crappy situation for McD.

I remember watching this kid when I was living in Orlando and he was at UCF. I was so happy when the Broncos selected him because I knew we had made a great choice. Little did I know….

I think Rod Smith needs to stick a cleat up the Beast’s rear and boot him out of Denver. Unfortunately, the Jets don’t have much to offer other than a 1st rounder next year.

Maybe we should just bench the idiot for the season.

When he had all of his legal issues, who stood behind him? Pat Bowlen and the Denver Broncos. When he “slipped on a McDonalds bag”, who stood behind him? Pat Bowlen and the Denver Broncos. When he skipped the mini-camp, who stood behind him? Pat Bowlen, Josh McDaniels, and the Denver Broncos.

When is this clown going to understand that he owes the Broncos, not the other way around? They’ve given him everything, and all he wants is more.

This is flipping ridiculous. The Jets like money and want butts in the seats. I bet they’d give up a lot — too much, since any actuary would tell you to stay away from this walking time bomb. I’d love to see how Marshall gets along with Rex Ryan, a man who with seven Napoleon complexes crammed inside him.

As a bonus, we’d get to watch as several trolls just…. explode…. and the inarticulate nicknames for McDaniels spiral into the thousands.

I’m going to put the over-under at a 2nd and 4th-round picks. Any takers?

As much as I want to see Marshall on the field, and being a great weapon for us, I just think it’s not going to happen. He doesnt want to be here. We might keep him and be last on the depthchart, until he becomes a free-agent. What did we gain? Nothing… We might as well trade him and at least get something of value in the process.

Imagine the MSM blow up (and blow us as Broncos up) when we trade him. Im not going to be on the internet that day…

That being said… I think our offense is good enough without him. With him it would just be better.

I can’t help but wonder if he is doing this on purpose to lower his trade value. This way he can stick it to the Broncos in that they have to accept something less then they would have liked, then he’ll turn around and act like an angel and a superstar receiver for another team.

Is that logical or realistic?

With a guy like Marshall, the Broncos could do the same thing the Eagles did with T.O and Deactivate him every week….

need anymore distractions. Eather extend his contract or trade him. If he doesnt like the offer and we cant get what we want for a trade, make him play special teams. I like Gurus take, treat him like TO, thats what hes has become.

What a bummer.

even if he is a bronco through this entire season….how can the broncos give him the contract he seeks. If Eddie keeps playing at the level he has…than in a couple years he will require a high level contract (I truly dont want to say demand because I love Eddie and his team first attitude and I just hope he dosnt become a diva)

This is a tricky situation for managment and Id hate to be in their shoes….tho I guess if its played right we may get that second first rounder next year….tho I sure will miss seeing BM throwing around DBs

see if we can get Boldin for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last season was the first time I visited Denver and see my beloved Broncos. They lost to Miami, and although I was sadden by the lost the team had so much promise….the offense had its moments. The team just needed a defense identity. We all know what happened this off season. I believe in the team first mentality that McD brings with him from NE, but at what cost? We lost a franchise QB (cry baby or not) and may lost the best young player on this team. This front office has time and time again made rookie mistakes that have caused a lot of miscommunication and added fuel to the fire. Where is Bowlen? why is he letting these inexperienced guy run the franchise to the ground….I mean when you have a front office official say"sorry face to face)! that front office needs to be on a short leash and some power needs to be taken away from McD…we can not afford to let him learn on the job…..come on Bowlen take charge like you said you would when you fired Shanny….

I so much wanna see our offense this year wih Marsh included, however i dunno what to think anymore. Do we really ever get fair trade out of him if we do trade him. When he plays he is worth more than a 2nd draft pick imo, but who would give us a 1st for him.

Truthfully I hope they can work this out with him, who knows?

I wonder how bad the Jets want Marshall? Like Kris Jenkins bad?

I posted a blog about how we should pay him. I am going on the record to say I jumped the gun. While he may be a beast, I think it’s high time we either trade him or bench him until he wants to get his act together. At this point, having two 100 catch seasons in your first four years should have gotten him some kind of raise, but he clearly isn’t in the upper echelon of wide outs. I’m pretty sure Moss, Fitz, Boldin, Andre etc. ALL know their playbooks. It is looking more and more like Shanahan had no clue what character means. It’s ok, folks. We have to experience our growing pains this season, and that doesn’t mean we can’t be competitive. I just think it will take all the bad seeds being purged from the team to see what McDaniels truly has to offer as a head coach. Right now it’s still partly Shanahan’s team. How can he be 100% focused on the team right now with all the controversy surrounding us as of late. He is doing a great job in the media, as he is very savvy and thick skinned. Sorry for the tangent, but it all seems to go together.

Since day one with this junk I’ve said the same thing…bench his pansy little rear. Ruin his chances for a big paycheck if he wants to keep being such a pathetic little whiny baby. I’ve never seen someone so physically overpowering (love watching B shove CBs into the dirt after the catch) be so much of a baby since TO.

This guys is a grade A stinking pile of dung. Play ball or get out.

Yeah…any 1st round pick gets B-Marsh if I’m the GM.

GRRR

I just read today’s DB.com blog, and there is a picture there of Marshall on the scout team. Dude sure doesn’t look like he is moping – looks happy and having fun.

http://bit.ly/2M8tvI

I am not pleased as punch with his admission that he doesn’t know the playbook, but makes me think he hasn’t quit entirely!

For $$ he will even play football!

I believe the Broncos have this horrible flesh eating disease that will do one of two things. Either it will kill us, or we’ll survive and be that much stronger for it. Right now, I can’t tell which is going to happen…it sure looks like our team won’t make it through the night(ie 2009 season). I just want to win baby.

I can give you two examples: One…the whole Cutler trade. The front office should have made sure that NE was totally in with the deal for Cassel…because once it was out it would cause issues between the player and the organization if the trade didnt happen. Call the player and inform him or his rep that they will be talking to a team regarding a trade. This would just be the right thing to do and would also open lines of communication if the trade falls threw. Two: BMarsh While i do not believe we should re-work his contract until the end of the year they handled his court outcome all wrong and it was the front office that met with BMarsh and his attorney and Joe Ellis told them that the organization was sorry for the PR’s actions and said this person acted on their own. If that was the case why didn’t they fire this low level PR rep…

however there is more evidence he has. I mean not being up to speed on the playbook? What else to you do besides getting healthier if you aren’t on the field practicing? You think that Marshall would be handling this better considering he saw the way Jay handled his ordeal. I guess not.

You are so right Guru and when things are going badly you really do learn a lot more about someone. I figured he would step it up when he saw all the new WRs we brought in.

Get healthy, learn the playbook like every NFL player does, and his new contract will come. Simple as that.

both hate the guy throwing to them…

Snyder would get a ‘superstar’….Denver would fill the void with promising young talent at WR and another pick. WhoooHooo!!!

Anyone else have that hunch?

This guy is a huge distraction. He thinks that the Broncos actually need him, but he forgot that we already have Eddie Royal et co. I wonder if Brandon even thinks about the consequences of his actions? Just look at what he’s done in terms of the law.

McD is pulling all the strings….why do you thing we got smith from NE. A move that I hope will help the team but if he was any good he would be able to hold his roster spot. They have two rookies that never took a snap in the NFL and they are beating him out in training camp. I like McD and i understand that a HC and the GM work together to put together a roster but with the lack of experience they sometimes jump the gun on some deals….

Brandon if he really meant it when during the Cutler fiasco he said that Mr. Bowlen and Coach McD have the rings so I will trail along with them. Apparently that was lip service.

Give Bolden his extension and be stacked at WR

Denver is dead to Brandon. Reading between the lines of this whole ordeal, it’s pretty clear to me at this point that Marshall just wants out of Denver at any cost. He’s had a rough go of things while living in Denver— the majority of his arrests have been while he was a Bronco, the McDonald’s bag incident, and most importantly, his involvement in DWill’s death. Throw all this together and add an entitled fanbase, a below market contract, losing the coach that always had his back, and the QB that helped make him a star, and you can see why he “hates Denver”.

I realize most of the arrests and the fall were outside of Denver and the Cutler and Shanny situations were after his “I hate Denver” comment, but Denver is where he had to come to be held accountable for all his transgressions. I could see him saying, “great, now I have to back and deal with Woody f’n Page”. By far the biggest issue here is the Darrent William’s murder. I’m not saying that he was responsible for the Murder in any way, I’m just saying that it has had to have a huge affect on his life and his perception of Denver. I think we as fans underestimate how big of an effect that event had on the organization. Every other player that was there that night is gone.

Brandon wants out of Denver. Sure, money has a lot to do with it, but these other factors play a huge role too. I think these other reasons are why Pat Bowlen told him he would try to accommodate a trade— especially the DWill angle. I’m not saying Brandon’s right for wanting out for these reasons. I’m just looking at the situation (especially Bowlen’s willingness to trade him and Marshall’s “I hate Denver comment”) and trying to read between the lines.

The best case scenario is a trade before the season starts. Now that his court proceedings are behind him, I think enough teams will be interested to creat decent value. I don’t think it’s out of the picture to get a starting receiver second round pick, or a reciever project (Devin Thomas) and a first round pick. I would take either.

Why don’t we trade for a D-lineman??? I don’t want draft picks b/c the only pick I would take is a #1, but two #1’s in one year is hard to deal with…Knowshon and Ayers.

 Britt Davis | #17 | WR

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Then the Cutler trade will come full circle

The reason the FO holds the trump cards is that after the season:

If no CBA renegotiated, Marshall will be a restricted FA meaning he can be tendered for a first and a third. That’s his value – unless they could get that now…

If not, the franchise tag would allow another FO trade like Cassell.

Have you ever stared at a hypnotist’s wheel. Sucks you right in until you’re sound asleep. The whole BMarsh saga today feels like being hypnotized and got me thinking.

What exactly are we lacking for the team’s NEEDS and how best could we leverage any potential BMarsh trade?

• Do we need a #1 WR if we trade Marshall?

• What other needs could we fill and what are they?

Marshall is a big-body WR. We don’t have another like him on the roster unless we converted Scheffler. What other somotype WR’s are available? Maybe Boldin from Arizona? Maybe Braylon Edwards from Cleveland? Do we really need a #1? Royal is certainly great but not the big body weakside WR like Marshall. Maybe a promising rookie WR plus picks?

I don’t think the team has any GLARING needs right now. Areas of weakness, yes, but nothing glaring. What other needs could we address?

• QB – I’m completely happy with Orton. Would I rather have Manning, Brees, a few others? It could happen. But I’m in no rush.

• D – I’m still concerned about our Dline. We could also use depth in our secondary.

• ST – We could probably use better kickers.

That thinks we are going to see him starting for the Broncos week 1 and signed to an extension sometime after.

…Unless the Jets are going to go loco.

I hope we fire the Jr. staff idiot that when rogue to tell the players what to say and not to say without first discussing the matter with The Coach.

Let them reunite….just kidding, sort of.

From the Marshall interview:

“I’m still here and I’m a Bronco. All I can do now is try to get into the best football shape and go from there…all I can do is show up at Dove Valley everyday and try to do my best”

When asked if he would sign a contract extension he replied, “I’m here now and I love playing football…it’s what makes me happy…and I love what I do”.

When asked if he’s still hoping for a contract extension, “I think that’s what all players want”

These may not be word for word…but it’s the gist of what he said.

And I have to say, this is not what the media says it is. I was watching Marshall’s face the whole time, and he seemed to get annoyed at the media constantly trying to prod him into saying something negative. The things he said did not in any way make it sound like he is quitting, he never said a “breaking point is near” as the headline at DP suggests.

He seems to have had his feelings hurt by the PR incident and is smarting about it still (understandable) but he also seemed to actually be trying to put stuff behind him and actually defended McDaniel’s and the whole 2nd team/scout team thing.

He can exasperate me at times, but this time I don’t see any fire, Just the media with a commercial grade smoke machine.

are sad. i wish there was a “i hope not” vote. …… i still picked yes

a trade sending Marshall to KC in exchange for Croyle and a second is in the works.. Of coarse this is a pile of crap and even AP homers laughed at it

but isn’t BMarch entering the last year of his contract?

As a 4th round pick 3 years ago, I think he’s entering the 4th and final year of his rookie contract. Historically, that’s when the Broncos will redo a guy’s contract (i.e., TD, A. Wilson, etc.). Given that he has (clearly) outplayed his first deal, and he obviously has all the talent in the world, why wouldn’t we extend him? And for those of you playing, the answer CANNOT be because he’s had off field issues, because that can and would be easily provided for in the contract.

Basically, this is as confusing to me as almost anything else that’s happened this offseason. We actually managed to draft an absolute STUD at WR, one who makes the QB, #19, Hillis, and any other RB better just by his presence on the field. We, as a team, are significantly less without him. These are the types of players that do not grow on trees and they almost never come without some sort of issues. At least BMarch has a personality, is liked by his teammates, plays hurt, competes for every ball, and will block.

Why in the world would we not extend him?

Mathematically you have to look at this off season and check out the variables versus the control in the situation with Cutler and Marshall:

Variables: Unhappy Denver Players wanting to leave

Control (or constant presence this summer): Denver, Josh McDaniels and Pat Bowlen

Denver (McD + Bowlen) = Good Players leaving

Case Closed!

McDaniels is not about to reward Marshall for being behind in his preparation. After getting some first-team reps Tuesday, Marshall was relegated to scout-team duties Wednesday. Even in four-receiver sets, he did not work with the first-team offense.

Still, McDaniels insisted he was not trying to send a message.

“He was out there plenty with the first team [Tuesday],” McDaniels said.

“Everybody takes reps on the scout team. … I’m not going to sit here and narrate the practice for you. Everybody takes turns doing that and that’s where we’re at.

“Everybody needs to do the same thing — practice, do your job. We’re not going to make roster decisions, first-string, second-string right now in the second week of training camp.”

I don’t think trading for a second-stringer or a draft choice would significantly help the team.

Merriman is a former Pro bowler, still young, with injury issues, and from what I’ve heard SD is planning on him being gone next year anyway. They have Jyles Tucker and Larry English to take his place.

The downside is having to face each other twice a year, but I think that would be a good trade.

McD said more two tight end sets where being used today and i can see that continuing if Marshall decides he can’t get too grips with the PB.

Again i want to reiterate that JMac is building a versatile team that will be able too soak up ‘problem’ players or injuries and change the focus but still be effective.

On the actual Marshall issue, i totally trust McDaniels too do the right thing for the team.. if not good trade comes up uno cinco will sit until he learns the playbook and decides that he should really honor a contract that he himself signed!

It’s honestly not like he is not getting paid at all, he is still getting MILLIONS! An if he seriously wants to play for another team then he should be showing the rest of the NFL that he is intelligent (in being able to learn a complicated playbook), trustworthy (in not getting into any more trouble), healthy (in not having further hip or other serious injury problems) and productive (in being able to thrive and make big plays in this type of offense – which is one that more and more teams in the league will start to draw from because it’s successful!)

It should be to the Minnesota Farves.

he never had any intention of playing here. Bowlen had promised to try to trade him and Marshall, in his ignorance, thought other clubs would stand in line for the chance to get him. It never occurred to him that it would not be possible to find someone offering anything worthwhile in return.

Marshall isn’t without leverage though. If he refuses to play, then The Broncos obviously don’t have to pay him but they would still have to leave a roster spot open for him. There is no way they would waste the spot when it could be given to someone who may actually help the team. Nor are they going to put him on POP or something just to teach him a lesson. While it would not cost that much to pay him to be inactive, they won’t pay him to do nothing when there is no prospect of using him later. If he can’t be traded (which seems more and more likely), he will get his will and be cut.

If after being cut he thinks there is a big fat contract with another team waiting, he is in for a rude awakening (unless, of course, he might catch the attention of Al Davis).

has baited a few hooks and it looks like they caught themselves a Jay Cutler and a Brandon Marshall. It seems though that Marshall had probably cashed his ticket as soon as Shanahan was fired. From my impressions, Shanahan coddled a lot of his star players, something that he wouldn’t have done early on. I bet they weren’t too thrilled with McDaniels “another cog in the wheel” approach and wanted to go to someplace where they could be a rockstar in football pads. I’m sure the Raiders or the Lions could use a wide receiver.

It is a lot simpler than it seems. I agree with what warmick says just above this comment in that Marshal obviously blew it in thinking that just because Ownership and management said that they would try to honor his request, that he was quaranteed a trade. NOT SMART! But BM has not been very smart many times in his past.

The other point in annother comment was that Marshal didn’t have a playbook during his rehab and hold out from otas. Why would an “IFFY” player get a playbook to study, copy and turn over to the new team that he is traded to and thus pass along the playbook to every other team that the broncos play this year!?

If Brandon had been given a playbook to study, way back then, then I guarantee u that he was NOT EVER going to be traded to begin with. I don’t think he did get a playbook to study for just those reasons. How could he even be offered one and still believe that he had an opportunity to BE traded?