Horse Tracks 8/2/09 - Clemons done for year? Jarvis done for good?

DP - Broncos' Moss leaves camp to think about future
Here's hoping that Jarvis is in the right frame of mind to make a good decision for himself.
DB - Day 2 Blog - Gray Caldwell
Lots of details from camp; Caldwell points out that there's now a scoreboard up for the practice field, although it wasn't used yesterday. Plus, any ball which hits the ground is now a fumble in practice; presumably another way to promote ball-hawking skills for everyone.
DB - Day 2 Report and Highlights - Broncos TV
Chris Hall wraps up the day's practices, with some great highlights at the end.
DB - Initial Impressions - Zach Eisendrath
Peyton Hillis is impressing everyone, no great surprise to anyone here. Champ, Hill and Thomas didn't stay on the PUP list for long; they practiced yesterday.
DB - Day 2: McDaniels - Broncos TV
McDaniels praises Peyton and says he doesn't know what Twitter and Facebook are.
DP - Marshall plays a position caught up in controversy - Mike Klis
Chris Simms believes that so many WRs are divas because, as he says, they're the best athletes on a football field. So they've been "the guy" their entire lives, and they expect to be treated as such even as professionals. Ted Sundquist thinks it might be a generational thing.
DP - Kiszla: Working on the Elvis Project
Kiszla says Dumervil's switch to LB and playing in pass coverage for the first time is the biggest risk for Denver in '09.
DP - McDaniels gets tough on tackling - Lindsay Jones
DP - Bailey, Thomas, Hill back at work in better shape
Nic Clemons may have suffered a season-ending knee injury.
DP - Klis: Bell ready to step into breach, again
Tatum is waiting by the phone again; meanwhile, the draft picks around Knowshon and Ayers are starting to sign, so hopefully they're getting closer to a deal.
C - Ex-CSU offensive lineman Oldenburg looks to carve out spot for himself with Broncos
DP - Position battle: Tight end - Jeff Legwold
DP - Torain will make things interesting - Jeff Legwold
CSG - Notes from the sidelines of Broncos training camp - Frank Schwab
AP - Kyle Orton latest QB to try to escape John Elway's shadow in Denver - Arnie Stapleton
DB - Day 2: Transcripts - Josh McDaniels & Champ Bailey
DP - Xanders knows Vick, so Broncos fans won't
Kiszla responds to emails
BG - Another QB still an option for Patriots
Shanny is apparently heading to Pats camp next; no word on whether his lapdog Bob Slowik is coming along.
HSB - Kicking up a storm - Paul Arnett
Here's a great look back at Jason Elam's college career at Hawaii.
CBS42 - Falcons sign LB Winborn
PFW - Chargers' Jackson likely to avoid '09 suspension
PFW is hearing that Kyle Orton's new mates respect him...
Y! - Tomlinson comes to grips with recent turmoil - Jason Cole
SI - Chiefs' Cassel at ease with role as face of franchise - Don Banks
KCS - Finally, Hall of Fame arrives for Derrick Thomas
KCS - Derrick Thomas’ day of days: Nov. 11, 1990
KCS - Chiefs may find turning wrong to right is hard thing to do - Jason Whitlock
KCS - Chiefs trying to condition players for success
KCS - Chiefs camp buzz | Haley wants consistency from receivers
NFL - Ravens WR Mason ends retirement, joins team in training camp
NFL - Falcons' Pro Bowl WR White skips start of camp over contract
NFL - Vikings QB Jackson will miss time with MCL sprain
NFL - Wilfork plans to stay focused through contract dispute
NFP - Weekend notes: good review for Sanchez - Matt Bowen
NFL - Tomlin, Roethlisberger centers of attention on Steelers' 'attitude day' - Thomas George
NFL - Saints attempting to channel their inner intimidator - Steve Wyche
NFL - Camp tour: Cowboys' Williams has high hopes for 2009 season - Vic Carucci
ESPN - Bus stop: Romo, Ware look sharp - Chris Mortensen
ESPN - Camp confidential: Jets forging new bonds
NYT - Lions Looking in Wrong Places for Offensive Linemen - KC Joyner
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re: AP - Kyle Orton latest QB to try to escape John Elway's shadow in Denver - Arnie Stapleton
“There are so many shadows in Denver. There’s Elway’s shadow. There’s Cutler’s shadow,” Simms said, chuckling. "So, we shouldn’t get a sunburn in camp, should we?
by Jenna Talia on Aug 2, 2009 8:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
re: Kiszla's emails
“I proudly wear my old Maurice Clarett jersey to remind people of the idiocy of the Mike Shanahan regime.”
Rich, Westminster
by Jenna Talia on Aug 2, 2009 8:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Best video yet from DB
That Denverbroncos.com Day 2 recap had some sweet action on it. Loved seeing Hillis rough it up. A sweet behind the back grab from Marshall too.
by jwkcsu on Aug 2, 2009 9:07 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Nyc
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 2, 2009 9:28 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else get the feeling...
Hillis is the love-child of John Riggins meets Roger Craig
He’s got to be my favorite Bronco right now…

Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.
John C. Calhoun --
by bcfunk on Aug 2, 2009 10:37 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
When I watched the clip of Hillis hitting Crowder
the D-A-N and G keys fell off my keyboard. So, I’m guessing that the information Hillis gave us on how he’s learning to run around folks rather than through them from this summer didn’t exactly translate to training camp?
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Aug 2, 2009 10:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious about a new approach to football...
…much in the way that baseball has specialists who pitch in different portions of a game.
Hillis runs a bruising game early to wear down the defense. Later, Moreno comes in to slash through weakened defenders. Buckhalter is used here and there to either run or catch to add confusion. I don’t think it will happen like that exactly, but I think we’ll see a lot of RBs in a lot of roles, instead of the traditional “feature back” or “committee” schemes.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see that too
Probably the single greatest weapon McD will have in terms of creating confusion for a game-planning DC. I could see them switching up the sequence too, Buckhalter, Moreno and/or Hillis shift out wide early and often spread ’em out and then Hillis and Jordan pounding the tar outa the D as the game wears on.
How do yo uplan for all the possibilities?
This is what we wanted...
Hey, look what we got!
by pubkeeper on Aug 2, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points, HT
Sometimes folks hear ‘committee’ and think ‘interchangeable’, but what if the normal assessment of what a player’s strengths and weaknesses might be transfers over to exactly how the members of that committee are used? After all, in business, folks on the same committee might have very different responsibilities. Why not apply that to football?
Over the course of a season, ‘primary’ backs tend to wear down. Even AP was rushing for less and less ypc by the end of last season. Reasoning out who sis best suited for each role and applying that might increase the health and longevity of our backs will providing us with a plethora of options. Nice call!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Aug 2, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sorta had that in 2005
Mike Anderson as the bruiser, and Tatum as the slasher/home run runner. I’m guessing this year’s version can be even better than 2005’s.
by tunga77 on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is too cool Bear
HT, I think you might be on to something there.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 2, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
When I watched the clip of Hillis hitting Crowder the D-A-N and G keys fell off my keyboard
You get TWO salmons for that one, Bear (and maybe a pot-O-honey to wash them down)!
Still chuckling…
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
by BroncTastic on Aug 2, 2009 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll share the honey with my friend Winnie...
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Aug 2, 2009 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simms is a good quote. Maybe he can replace his Bronco hating father as an announcer.
The D-line and OLBs still worry the crap out of me. The first few days of camp have done nothing to make me feel better about our front seven.
Hillis will be an All Pro FB in the near future.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Aug 2, 2009 10:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Beanie Wells
Poor kid! Signed on Saturday and injured on Saturday. Let’s hope Knowshon shows up ready to play.
by Endzone on Aug 2, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Klis is reporting BM injured his hip in practice this am.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Aug 2, 2009 11:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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