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The Broken Record

 

As I typed the title to this post I realized that most of the readers of this site will not have a clue what I am talking about. They will probably think it has something to do with Brett Favre breaking the NFL record for the number of unretirements. Allow me to explain.

 

Long, long ago there were no CDs. Cassettes had not even been invented nor 8 track or reel to reel. Sounds were recorded on vinyl discs known as "records". The "record" was rotated on a device known as a turntable and the sound was reproduced through a device known as a "needle". If the record was scratched or cracked it was called broken. The needle would hit the scratch and bounce back and replay the last portion of sound. If someone repeated a phrase or sentence or theme they were said to sound like a broken record.

Star-divide

 

Today I sound like a broken record as I once again raise awareness of the lack of Denver Broncos in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Specifically I point to the omission of some of our players in the sixties and seventies. The best example is Floyd Little. I will not bore all of you with another parade of his skills and records broken (yes that kind of record!) I will however point out that the only way for Little to make it into the Hall is through the Senior Committee. They meet on the 25th of August to select the two seniors to be forwarded to the entire committee for consideration for selection to the Hall. I urge any and all of you to email the Senior Committee and blatantly advocate for the selection of Floyd Little for the Hall of Fame.

 

The Senior Committee members and their emails are:

 

Edwin Pope - epope@herald.com 

 

Ira Miller - imiller@sportsxchange.com

 

Rick Gosselin - rgosselin@dallasnews.com

 

Ron Borges - rborges@bostonherald.com

 

Dan Pompei -

dpompei@tribune.com

 

John McClain -

john.mcclain@chron.com

 

John Czarnecki -

john.czarnecki@foxsports.com

 

Dave Goldberg -

dgoldberg@ap.org

 

Len Shapiro -

badgerlen@aol.com

 

 

A sample email might look lie this:

 

Dear ________

 

I write today to urge the selection of Floyd Little to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am certain you are aware of his accomplishments both on and off the field. I simply want you to be aware there are many fans who feel Floyd belongs in the Hall.

 

Thanks for your consideration.

 

Ali Babba

Bumphuckt, Egypt.

 

 

Let’s flood the committee with emails of support for Floyd. Go to it guys and gals!

 

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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Rec'd for a great idea & providing us with the links to make it happen

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Aug 20, 2009 12:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to take your letter to another level

all of these writers have archives that can be found online, and if you scan some, you will probably find some piece that has an impact or that you enjoy. Don’t hesitate to tell Dan Pompeii, for example, how much you enjoyed his such and such article back during wheniswhatsit. It really spoke to you!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 20, 2009 12:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa...

Excellent idea styg! What a better way to build credability with a writer than to show you have actually read some of his stuff! Why didn’t I think of that? ‘cuz I’m not as smart as styg.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gave it a shot...

Gentlemen,

I apologize for the ‘mass email’, but I am compelled to write to each of you since you are the Senior Committee members for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

My request is to ask that you deeply consider the merits of Floyd Little to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am certain you are aware of his accomplishments both on and off the field. I simply want you to be aware there are many fans who feel Floyd belongs in the Hall.

Many fans of professional football today don’t realize how times have changed. Many fans view the stats from guys like Eddie George, Jerome Bettis, Ricky Watters and Corey Dillon and think, “wow – those are Hall of Fame careers”. I don’t think that is the case. Today, if a RB can stay on the right team and remain healthy for 6 or 7 years… he will have great stats, but that doesn’t translate to Hall of Fame greatness.

During the era that LIttle played, as you know, the role of RB was very much different than it is now in the NFL. Little retired as the 7th leading rusher in NFL History and the six guys ahead of him are in the Hall of Fame. I mentioned guys like Eddie George and Jerome Bettis earlier for a reason. I think each of them was good, but I’m not sold on the notion that they are Hall of Fame players. Over the next several years, these guys will create great issues for older players like Floyd Little. The players from decades past built the NFL into what it is today, they made it possible for guys like Corey Dillon to have the careers they had in the NFL.

There are a lot of players in recent years that qualify for the “Hall of Really Good”… but, I fear we are forgetting those from the past that belong in the “Hall of Fame”.

Thanks for your consideration.

PS – I realize you are familiar with his accomplishments, but I wanted to send the links anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Little
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LittFl00.htm
http://www.bettingers.org/floyd/index.htm
http://www.littleinthehalloffame.com/

______
Mile High Mania

by Mile High Mania on Aug 20, 2009 4:58 AM MDT reply actions   4 recs

Great job!

I love it!

There are a lot of players in recent years that qualify for the "Hall of Really Good"… but, I fear we are forgetting those from the past that belong in the "Hall of Fame".

It is personal and comes from the heart. Thank you.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NICE job MHM!!

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 20, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have members in Egypt?

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 20, 2009 8:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ali Babba's a long time bronco's fan...

You should see his mancave…

"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."

by HillisRanUover on Aug 20, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

You guys crack me up!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure

Like ff’s example, in BFE and other parts as well

; )

Thanks firstfan – we need to get as many mailed/emailed as possible – I’m in!
What would it be like if the football field were entirely sand?

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 20, 2009 8:35 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you. Get 'em sent.

Floyd should be in the Hall even if the whole field was grizzly snot.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Record?

I looked it up, apparently they looked something like this.

My only question is, what is this CD? you speak of. I just download music.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 20, 2009 8:41 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Very funny...

lol. But I also very interesting that firstfan has to explain it.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, you really put me in my place. A museum.

It took me a while to find the record. Looks like a 78.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Record?

Who cares? Who’s the babe?

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 20, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My grandma

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My grandma

Got a phone number?

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 20, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

If she was my grandma, I’d be purtier than I am. :)

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

She is still a babe!

There’s nothing wrong with 80.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1

Experience is the bomb!

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm...

what good is experience when she can’t remember anything?

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just playing...

I’ve dabbled with the older women…of course I was 19 and they were in their early thirties. I’ll have to wait until my wife and I are 80…then I learn about that so-called experience.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very helpful

Then she doesn’t remember much about me….lol

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 20, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a woman that can't remember anything

Is a lot better than one that remembers every stinking thing ;-)

"Time wounds all heels" Groucho Marx

by dmitchell624 on Aug 20, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to be free, be free

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 20, 2009 7:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harold and Maude

Great movie

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 21, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALTHOUGH... I would be remiss in my duty if I didn't post this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNgbmW_DXaU&NR=1

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 20, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 20, 2009 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had forgotten about that.

What a fabulous job of acting. That one monolog alone is academy award worthy.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 21, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Nice Town

I’ve been to Bumphuckt.

It reminded me a lot of Santa Claus…

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race" Calvin Coolidge

by SSMT on Aug 20, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Very similar

except no #6

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sent my personal plea/request:

Hello,

I once asked a voting member what criteria were used to select players for the Hall of Fame since it was obvious that stats weren’t always the reason. I was told that when he voted on a former player, he would ask himself, “How different would the NFL be without this player?” I found that observation quite profound and it changed the way I viewed the Hall of Fame and its voting practices.

I used to believe they were snubbing Bronco players on purpose. Obviously, that belief was misguided. I was just looking at it the wrong way. Floyd Little was on the “bubble” when he retired as far as Hall of Fame stats were concerned. Many believed, at the time, he was a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame.

Well, that was 34 years ago and now I come to you with one request. Look beyond Floyd Little’s stats and ask yourself this one question, “What would the NFL look like if Floyd Little had never played?”

I could argue that there would be no Broncomania. There would have been no “Orange Crush”. There could quite possibly have been no Denver Broncos beyond 1968. There is a reason why the man was nicknamed “The Franchise” and it pains me to see the single most important man and player in Denver Broncos history continued to be excluded from the Hall of Fame. Yes, more important than John Elway, because without Floyd there is no Broncos.

I ask only that you strongly consider this request and think of how drastically different the NFL would be without Floyd Little.

Thank you for your time,
Me

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 9:15 AM MDT reply actions   4 recs

Excellent Zappa, and rec'd

It is personal and passionate yet factual. It also hits the theme, can we write the history of pro football without this guy? NO!!!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ten stars!!!! **********

And that’s on a four star scale. Nicely said.

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 20, 2009 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for this firstfan.

You make it very easy for the rest of us to put our money where our mouth is. (I wonder if we need to explain where that figure of speech came from)

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 9:32 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Only to those whod don't know what a CD is.

Thanks Jack. Did you get your emails out yet?

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which ones?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just hit me. Man, I hate being stupid.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bumphuckt Egypt!

That’s amazing.

"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu

by Joe Medina on Aug 20, 2009 9:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It is pronounced "Boom - Fue -Keet"

It is a small oasis near the western border.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that anywhere near Unakleet?

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 21, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

at least Goldberg takes this job seiously. That’s about all one could ask of him. Thanks for that link studbucket.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 20, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't know what to say.

The Goldberg article is profound. I sure as hell hope he is wrong about Floyd. This just underscores the need for all of the people on this site, scattered from all over the globe, to email all nine members of the Senior Committee on behalf of Floyd. We can drop references to the Broncos (I think the references to Denver and the Rocky Mountains are appropriate from thier historical perspective) and focus on the character and athleticism of Floyd Little. Thanks for the link studbucket.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing I noticed about a lot of these links...

…is that I missed most of them the first time around. The volume is so large on this site that you’ve got to be in constant contact or you can miss something. Am I missing some easy way of getting caught up when I’ve been gone for a few days?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind.

I just found the last 4,000. These computers are amazing.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 20, 2009 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buy a

24" screen. That will help

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 20, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I would,

But my kids insist on eating every…, single…, day. Talk about selfish.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Aug 21, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Join CostCo

You can buy like 90 pizza bagels for 10 bucks. What more do they need?

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Aug 21, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great letter...

I thought I was being clever with the use of “Hall of Really Good”… didn’t realize that was used by King.

______
Mile High Mania

by Mile High Mania on Aug 21, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who were Little's QB's?

No one any good, except for Charlie Johnson towards the end of Little’s career. It might help to name a few of them to show that there was very little offense in Denver except for Floyd Little in those days.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 20, 2009 10:05 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He had 30 of them in 4 years right?

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

Good point bradley.
From ‘67 through ’70 it was primarily Steve Tensi. However Scotty Glacken, Jim leClair,Pete Liske and Al Pastrana all handed off and/or passed to Little.
’71 and ’72 was primarily Steve Ramsey with Don Horn and an old geezer named Charley Johnson backing up. Charly took over in ’72 but he got beat up a lot and Ramsey was a big enough man to be his back-up during the many times Charley was in the hospital. Charley was the main man through the rest of Little’s career but other back-ups were Mike Ernst and John Hufnagle.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding!! Great letter bradley. rec'd!

Damn I hope Floyd get in this time!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with firstfan. Great letter!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 20, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Help!

I just sent a passionate letter to Dave Goldberg regarding the article referenced in studbucket’s comment. It got rejected. I used dgoldberg@ap.org Isn’t this correct?

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 1:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

My letter to Mr. Goldberg

was to dgoldberg@ap.com, and it hasn’t come back (sent 50 minutes ago). I notice that the eddress above says .org. Apparently, I serendipitously misread it as . com. So, try dgoldberg@ap.com.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 20, 2009 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Sure If That Works Either

I’ve heard from some people that’s broke as well. Unfortunately I can’t find his contact info except for tweeting, I’ll keep looking.

by studbucket on Aug 20, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

.com

I sent it to dgoldberg@ap.com and have not notification of failure either so it may be correct.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 20, 2009 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.... It seems to work now.

Can we have the main article edited so we others don’t need to read down this far to get their emails sent?

Appreciate the info… looking forward to sending emails every year until it really happens!

My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.

by YellowStoneBronco on Aug 20, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My e mail to dgoldberg@ap.com

Approximately 12 hours after I sent it, I got a notice that delivery is delayed.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 21, 2009 3:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

12 hours

after I got the “delayed” notice i got a failure notice.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 22, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a Reminder

Before this slips off the front page, send out your email, help get Floyd into the Hall of Fame!

We really appreciate everyone who has sent mail and helped with this!

by studbucket on Aug 21, 2009 9:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

They will be meeting next Tuesday

August 25, so the sooner they receive an e mail, the more time they will have to read it.

He felt like the man who drew the first circle. Perfect, and complete.

by bradley on Aug 21, 2009 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep :)

We’ll also be giving an ‘11th hour’ reminder to everyone.

by studbucket on Aug 21, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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