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Horse Tracks 8/26/09 - Dreaming of an Orange August in Canton

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DB - Floyd a Hall Finalist - Gray Caldwell
Floyd Little took a giant step toward the Pro Football Hall of Fame yesterday, as he and Dick LeBeau were announced as senior nominees. Can you imagine The Franchise and Big Play Shay going in together next summer?!?!?! A Denver weekend in Canton?

DB - 44 Reasons to Elect No. 44 - Thomas Mackie
A must read for all Broncos fans...

DB - Floyd Little - Jim Saccomano
Sacco shares some of what Floyd Little meant to the Broncos.

DB - Tuesday: McDaniels - Broncos TV
McDaniels praises Russ Hochstein's versatility (sound familiar?), as he can play every line position, plus TE and FB. Plus the team is looking forward to playing at home after two weeks on the road. McDaniels actually says the Seahawks forced the Broncos to pass more than planned. Lots of dancing around Brandon Marshall questions...

DB - Tuesday: Sounds from the Locker Room - Broncos TV
Quotes from several players after a rain-shortened practice...I am crushed to see that Mario Haggan walks around with a Yankees cap. What is he THINKing??

DB - On the Right Track - Zach Eisendrath
On progress, Hochstein and turnovers.

DP - Broncos' Little a lot closer to the hall - Mike Klis

DP - Hochstein latest Patriot to join roster - Mike Klis
Klis says Hochstein's arrival (for the same 7th-rounder New England had sent over in the Le Kevin Smith trade) may put Kory Lichtensteiger and Mitch Erickson on the bubble.

DP - Haggan would love to put a hit on Cutler - Mike Klis
Haggan says the fans would love to see a sack of JC. Chris Simms is thankfully off crutches already, although he is not expected to play again in the preseason. The Broncos may sign QB Ingle Martin as presumed preseason fodder.

DP - Marshall's deal doesn't distract - Jeff Legwold
For what it's worth, Kenny Peterson and Correll Buckhalter downplay the effects of BMarsh's situation in the locker room.

ESPN - Receiver, Broncos in a whirl of hurt - Jeffri Chadiha
Chadiha is expecting the BMarsh situation to only get worse.

CBS4 - Elway: Don't Panic, 'Preseason Is Preseason' - Video
Two videos with The Greatest Ever.

Star-divide

CSG - Marshall listed as a starter for Broncos - Frank Schwab
But will he play??

CSG - Broncos notes: Running back Little named a Hall of Fame finalist - Frank Schwab

DB - Tuesday: Transcripts - Josh McDaniels

DB - Ask Chris Baker...
Submit your questions for the rookie in the middle

AP - Marshall Practicing; Preseason Debut Still Unclear

AP - Patriots Trade Hochstein To Denver For Draft Pick

ESPN Insider - Kicking off my Insider blog - Adam Schefter
Schefter has heard rave reviews about Josh McDaniels, including a prediction that "McDaniels is going to be one of the greatest NFL coaches ever." Meanwhile, a silly Bears fan tries to make the case that JC's receiving cast wasn't all that great because it had Eddie Royal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TJ - Brandstater roughed up in first NFL game - Chhun Sun
Tom Brandstater's hometown paper on the rookie's debut.

AFC West News

SDUT - Bolts' Clary toughest on himself - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Cromartie continues to impress - Kevin Acee

CBS - Declining Tomlinson? L.T. aiming to prove otherwise - Clark Judge

CBS - Chargers: Five things to know - Clark Judge

NFP - Very Fake Al Davis - Ray Gustini
Another gem from Gustini...

CCT - Raiders add defensive tackle

CCT - Peterson: Raiders backup could make an impact

ESPN - Miller aims to build on Raiders' tradition - Pork Chop

KCS - Haley expects Charles and other Chiefs backs to improve their ball handling - Kent Babb

KCS - Chiefs notebook: New linemen could play right away - Adam Teicher

NFL News

NFL - Reid: Eagles will give Vick 'a couple shots' Thursday vs. Jaguars

NFL - Big Ben practices, but will he miss any time? 'Not that I know,' he says

NFL - With a QB surplus, Bucs calling teams about trades

NFL - Bills WR Owens still not ready to play; RB Jackson re-injures thumb

NFL - Giants CB Ross re-injures left hamstring on last day of training camp

NFL - Titans WR Washington still limping, leaving status for opener in doubt

NFL - Rams WR Avery practices just three weeks after breaking his left foot

NFL - NFL officially gives Saints K Hartley a four-game suspension for drug use

NFL - Wilford returns to Jaguars, but this time, he's a tight end

NFL - Cowboys assistant coach, scouting aide sue over practice-facility collapse

NFL - Williams sisters become latest celebrities to buy part of Dolphins

NFL Opinion

SI - Preseason Week 2, Winners/Losers - Don Banks
Banks acknowledges Orton's progress but reminds us that Kyle didn't throw any deep passes. Interesting point, one which crossed my mind, too.

SI - MMQB Mailbag: 10 rookies who've impressed; Cowboys video fallout - Peter King
What a shame. Peter King lists 10 rookies who he likes, writing about nine of them. For the tenth one (Alphonso Smith), he mentions only the draft choice Denver gave up for him.

Y! - Niners' Hill proves his head's in the right place - Mike Silver

NFP - QB Battles: time to make the call - Matt Bowen

NFP - Why Tarvaris is the player's choice - Matt Bowen

NFP - Diner morning news: Sanchez needs time - Mike Lombardi

NFP - Tavern talk: Finalizing our blue list - Mike Lombardi

CBS - Texans camp tour: Slaton's progress makes Houston contender - Pete Prisco

CBS - Texans: Five things to know - Pete Prisco

NFL - Prediction time: Picking first and last place teams in each division - Jason La Canfora

PFW - Madden's replacement primed for gig - Barry Jackson

FOX - NFL pressure cooker the true test of young QBs - Peter Schrager

ESPN - LeBeau among many worthy candidates - Len Pasquarelli
Pasquarelli thinks the HOF should include more assistant coaches.

NFP - The story of Curtis Buckley and how he made the Bucs - Jack Bechta

NFP - 2009 NFP scouting series: Vanderbilt - Wes Bunting

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Hey

some of us are Dodger fans here!

Okay, maybe just me. ;-)

Oh shut up.

My dad’s a yankee fan, and a NY giants fan, maybe he’d be happy if we traded them Haggan. Hah hah!

Sigh…

by underdog on Aug 26, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dodger hat?

How about a Bronco hat? That would be much better.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 26, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Keep rockin it, NYC

I refuse to pay ESPN money — can someone post the relevant bits from the Schefter blog entry regarding Royal and that Bears fan? Sounds fishy to me.

Also, Peter King is a d-nozzle. He must’ve realized that he was about to write something positive about Denver, and just chickened out. Maybe he had already hit his limit of positive news.

by BroncosBassist on Aug 26, 2009 6:35 AM MDT reply actions  

MillsLane25 in Colorado Springs, Colo.: I feel like Josh McDaniels, given his, um, entertaining start to his tenure in Denver, is setting himself up to not be allowed to struggle. Say the Broncos are 4-12 this year (could happen, sadly) and improve to 8-8 next year. You bring in a new coach, a roster overhaul takes place, it happens again. Is there any reason to hire a guy anymore if you won’t commit to, really, about 4 years? (Especially when they could be drafting a quarterback next April.)

MillsLane25: The one thing we’ve seen in this league is that, outside of Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin and Tom Coughlin, there’s no coach who is automatically safe from one year to the next. Saying that, I think McDaniels will survive this year, next year and well beyond. He’s getting a lot of heat now, but someone who knows coaches well predicted to me that McDaniels is going to be one of the greatest NFL coaches ever. Strong words, I know, and we’ll see. But I think he’s going to be a real good one.

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

and coughlin

hasn’t been safe that long, if i remember correctly they were talking about replacing him before they won the SB.

by trumanj on Aug 26, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

That may have just been the press. After all, when the media was talking about Coughlin’s job being in jeopardy, that is precisely when the Giants gave him a contract extension…

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

No way it happens in Denver

Reading the Post, hearing dispatches from Denver radio, occassionally reading “Broncos fan” comments at NFL.com, DPO, PFT, NFP, etc…MacDaniels, short of winning the next two Superbowls, will be tarred, feathered, and run out of this town before he gets a chance.

Its become almost like a Saturday Night Live skit making fund of SNL. It’s real life satire…like satire about satire. Its that bad.

by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 26, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Especially cuz it should be like Seinfeld

A show about nothing.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 26, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nick in Gary, Ind.: Aren’t people overstating the Bears’ lack of WRs? Great QBs make great receivers — besides, [Jay] Cutler’s favorite target a lot of last year was Eddie Royal. He seems like he makes enough plays where he doesn’t need Calvin Johnson or T.O. to be successful.

Nick: First and foremost, you’re vastly underrating Royal. He is going to be one of the game’s top receivers — watch. Beyond that, Cutler will need some help from the position. I think Devin Hester and Earl Bennett can provide some, and let’s not forget the two tight ends, Greg Olsen and Desmond Clark. They’re not true wide receivers, but Olsen is capable of being the Bears’ leading receiver this season. They’re not deep at wide receiver, but if Matt Forte is running well, Cutler is not making mistakes and the defense is back, Chicago can win. With the receivers it has.

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, NYC!

Uh, why does Royal not get any respect? Does this guy think Devin Hester is in the same league?

by BroncosBassist on Aug 26, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Chadiha

He was by far the best writer out there when he was with SI.COM. Now that he’s at the big brother espn, his material is boilerplate and uninteresting. Really too bad. I hope Schefter doesn’t get poisened by the ESPN curse….outside of their actual football broadcasts that consortium is aweful.

by RudyR on Aug 26, 2009 6:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Per Legwold at the DP “Though team officials around the NFL are restricted in how much they can say about wanting to add a player who is under contract with another team, several general managers and personnel executives contacted this week privately said an unhappy player has to be jettisoned only when the team feels he is impacting the coaching staff’s ability to reach other players. That, or, when teammates, either from being weary of answering questions about the unhappy player or dealing with him in the locker room, decide he isn’t doing enough on the field to be an asset.”

I know Warmick and some others here think BM will/should get cut, but the statement above details how NFL business is done in the real world. And it will be done in private, much to the chagrin of the media drama queens.

Expect the Broncos to deal with this matter by making business decisions the benefit the organization’s best interests. I’ll tell you what the Bronco’s won’t do, they won’t quickly resolve the BM issue so as to satisfy the emotional pleas of a some of their beleaguered fans.

I recommended this DP story.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 26, 2009 7:40 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m with you, McG. No matter how much of a deal everyone wants to make of the BMarsh situation, it doesn’t HAVE to be resolved today or tomorrow. He’s got to actually try, at some point. If not, he’ll end up suspended for conduct detrimental – and I’d think he’s not willing to go that far. If he doesn’t play his heart out, then he’ll just squander on the bench…

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

He won't be suspended...

I think a team is only allowed to suspend a player for 4 games without jumping through the NFLPA legal hoops. Plus, “conduct detrimental” has a pretty high standard to meet…. It’s more than just not trying hard. I think Marshall will do enough not to be “insubordinate”. The most you can do is keep him on the roster and deactivated for all the games.

I think Chad 88 is the scenario to look at. He sulked and had a mediocre year. If Marshall plays, we will likely see the same result.

So, yes, you can punish him by keeping him on the team… but at the cost of a spot on the 53-player roster. That may or may not be an exorbitant cost.. depends on what the trade options are.

by BuckarooBanzai on Aug 26, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

“Think Chad 88 is the scenario to look at. He sulked and had a mediocre year. If Marshall plays, we will likely see the same result.”

Seems reasonable.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 26, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

Uno Cinco will play out just like Ocho Cinco played out.

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Aug 26, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eddie Royal

ROFLMFAO…acopter……

That was a hilarious read. Thanks NYC. Cutler’s great because one of his fave targets was merely Eddie ROYAL!!! HAH. Eddie “HOF Bound” (maybe not but I can dream) Royal. Thats right, Cutler’s recieving corps in Chi-Town is clearly AS GOOD OR BETTER than the Broncos recieving corps right? ROFL ROFL OMG I’m about to cry I’m laughing so hard. Ok back to work.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Aug 26, 2009 7:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks nyc!

Your daily efforts to keep us all informed is appreciated!

  • Congrats to Floyd Little. He is more than deserving for the HOF!
  • I’m looking forward to seeing what Hochstein will bring to the team.
  • As suspected, any “distraction” from BMarsh is in the eyes of the media, not in the locker room.
  • Glad to hear that Haggan’s lookin to put a whuppin on Cutler.
  • Interesting that the Bucs were QB poor prior to the draft (weren’t they involved in the Cutler trade talks?) and now are looking to trade because they have too many QB/s. Why are we looking at Ingle Martin when the Bucs have so many QB’s?

by Endzone on Aug 26, 2009 8:05 AM MDT reply actions  

re: Martin. We’re not going to be carrying 4 QBs. If Simms’ injury isn’t serious, then we’re only looking for a QB to take some scout-team reps until he’s back. So there’s no reason to trade for another QB. Thanks for the kind words, EZ.

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

If they are looking at Martin

Its because he is a cheap bit of camp fodder for the last week to save some wear on the others. There would be no sense trading anything for someone you are going to cut in a week.

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Aug 26, 2009 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Nyc

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 26, 2009 8:17 AM MDT reply actions  

LMAO!

Thanks for the Laugh tfrbotta.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 26, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

That was funny, thanks man

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 26, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

lmfao!!!

"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith's rebuttal to Jamie Dukes

by broncosmontana on Aug 26, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great article my Macki on Floyd Little

Here are just three of Mackie’s 44 reasons why Little should be in the HOF

11 – Little ranks 16th in Rushing among all 41 HOF running backs

12 – Little ranks 17th in Yards from Scrimmage among all 41 HOF RBs

13 – Little ranks 11th in receiving yards among all 41 HOF RBs

Incredible that he wasn’t voted in years ago.

...because sometimes your inner cowboy needs to yodel.

by bradley on Aug 26, 2009 8:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Peter King On Little

I believe it was Peter King I was listening to on Morning Drive on the NFL Network on Sirius, who spent about 10 minutes on why Dick LeBeau should be an automatic for the HOF, then, fortunately as a minute aside, he mentioned that Little had been nominated as well, and that while his statistics weren’t that great, maybe he should be give some consideration due to what he meant to the Bronco franchise.

Clearly, the man needs some education on Little’s stats, but also clearly who he thinks is the stronger of the two Veteran’s Committee candidates.

Let the campaign of information begin now. A call or two to set King straight might also be helpful.

by Baltimore Bronco on Aug 26, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks NYC

I’ve been a Little fan as long as I can remember, met him when he was in his heyday with the Broncos. I think I was 8 or 9 at the time.

I think Banks needs to go watch some film. Seems to me Orton threw the long plenty when he was in Chicago, but the short game was more effective as it usually is regardless of team or QB. Wasn’t there an post on this back when the trade occurred?

by bchiper on Aug 26, 2009 8:58 AM MDT reply actions  

Floyd Little

Here’s a big shout out to Floyd Little, the first true “hero” the Broncos ever had. I know there’s a lot of young folks on this site, but I hope you’ll somehow come to appreciate what Floyd Little meant to this franchise – #44 brought a legitimacy both in name and accomplishment that helped this franchise and the city believe that great things could happen at Mile High. He was a class act both on and off the field and any recognition he receives probably won’t be enough. Go Broncs!

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Aug 26, 2009 9:10 AM MDT reply actions  

Here's hoping that Haggan gets his wish

that he and his mates get put JC on his back multiple times. Or better yet, on his face so he can taste the turf of Mile High!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:14 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I admit, I will enjoy that when/if it happens

But it’s not just sacks, JC better pray he doesn’t throw an INT. He is going to get absolutely destroyed with a “block” if he finds himself on “defense” immediately after throwing a pick.

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Aug 26, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nothing dirty

I’m not saying we will be playing dirty or taking cheap shots at Cutler, as the term head-hunting implies, more just the fact that all defenders are taught to hit the QB after he throws a pick. In that instance, the QB is a defender and needs to be blocked. I wasn’t hoping that they go head hunting per se, I just hope to see Cutler get crushed a time or two (in a purely legal manner).

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Aug 26, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Simms is out for the rest of the preseason… Bummer… No one wants to see Orton play with our O-line back-ups so I guess we’ll get more Tom B the next few weeks.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Aug 26, 2009 9:15 AM MDT reply actions  

Yah, here's Schefter's update if anyone missed it just now

(on Twitter)

Adam_Schefter Chris Simms high ankle sprain. Looks like 2-4 weeks. Denver has some QB decisions to make regarding final two preseason games and beyond.

Tom B will eventually be decent but doesn’t seem all that ready to me (though to be fair the 3rd string OL was terrible the other night which isn’t his fault). Ingle Martin doesn’t inspire much excitement. But since Simms isn’t out for a long time I guess there’s no point in getting another long term backup.

Stay healthy, Kyle! is all I can say.

by underdog on Aug 26, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

That is sad

Brandstater isn’t ready at all. Maybe a little fire will be good for him, but it will make watching the team play less interesting for sure. He looks pretty lost back there to me.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Aug 26, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

First professional football game action

behind porous 3rd string OL, though, so it’s not surprising he looked lost. I’m thinking we should be patient with him.

by underdog on Aug 26, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

About fricken time!

Congrats to Floyd, he better damn well get in now. And Gradishar better be next. Is the old school media finally realizing their injustice over these many years? Or have enough of them died after years of being brain dead to allow more intelligent voters to come in?

Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.

by Bob in Boulder on Aug 26, 2009 9:38 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks NYC

Haggan should be wearing a ROCKIES hat!!!!!! I HOPE AND PRAY WE BLITZ EVERYONE ON THE BEARS FIRST POSSISION

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Aug 26, 2009 10:19 AM MDT reply actions  

No no no

That should be the one time I’d be in favor of seeing a “Show Blitz” play. Run every one up like we are going to, then drop back into coverage and make Jay through into double or triple coverage. He absolutely will and then we’ll be taking it the other way.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Aug 26, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

From Lindsay Jones' DB twitter:
denverbroncos 1 hour away from a Denver media conference call with Jay Cutler. What should we ask him?

by underdog on Aug 26, 2009 10:41 AM MDT reply actions  

Floyd Little

It’s about danged time. This should have been a no-brainer a LONG time ago.

There may be hope for Randy Gradishar yet. Another clear oversight in the HOF voting circus.

by Broncos Rule on Aug 26, 2009 11:28 AM MDT reply actions  

It seems

that we have some Floyd Little HOF haters:

http://www.pfraforum.org/index.php?showtopic=872

Read down, and you will find some Floyd Little dissing. I can’t believe the ignorance of some people. I guess that ESPN and mainstream media brainwashing really works.

by PABroncofan on Aug 26, 2009 1:02 PM MDT reply actions  

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