Broncos sign QB Ingle Martin
by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 26, 2009 12:10 PM MDT
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According to Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post, the Broncos have signed QB Ingle Martin after working him out this morning. Martin was a fifth-round selection of the Packers in 2006 after splitting his college career between the University of Florida and Furman University.
In addition to his time with the Packers, Martin has been a member of the Titans and Chiefs organizations, having dressed for only one game in 2006 while with Green Bay. The native of Memphis, TN is listed at 6'2" and 220 lbs. and just turned 27 on August 15th. Martin has never attempted a pass in the NFL but has 2 rush attempts for minus-5 yards.
Martin played in all four preseason games for the Chiefs in 2008, completing 13 of 25 passes for 185 yards, no TDs or INTs and a QB rating of 76.2.
Martin will reportedly be available to play in Denver's fourth and final game of the preseason, against Arizona on September 3. Backup QB Chris Simms is expected to miss up to a month with a high ankle sprain, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.
Unless Simms begins the regular season on the PUP (physically-unable-to-perform) list, don't be surprised to see Martin released after the preseason finale.
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My only question about him
since this obviously just insurance and training camp filler (no offense to him) barring Simms being out longer than expected, is…
What kind of a name is Ingle?
Anyway, best of luck to him, though.
It's German.
I had a good friend in high shool whose name is Ingle.
ingle = engel = angle = angel
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
I don't trust him
I think he’s a spy. And I bet his REAL name is IngleBERT!
…
Or maybe he’s a backup QB for the short-term. I could be wrong.
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I hate this pickup.
This is another case of McDanials not knowing what the hell he’s doing. Now, the team is going to have to make room for this guy on the 80-man roster. I mean, who are we going to let go? Terrel Davis and John Elway were once on 80 man rosters, what if McDanials and Xandars just let someone like that go? I, for one, wouldn’t put it past them. All for some guy named Ingleberry who will just be cut once Simms comes back.
At least we know if McDanials dosn’t go .500 this year, he’ll be gone.
Wait, this was serious?
I started reading this, thinking it was tongue-in-cheek, but now I’m not so sure. Do you really think that we should be going through the last two pre-season games with just Orton and Brandstater taking all the reps hits? We need more than just 2 QB.
On a related note, I wonder who was released to make room. I can think of some backup OL that would make good candidates. :)
by BroncosBassist on Aug 26, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
If Simms goes on the PUP list
does that free up a roster spot?
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Yes it would....
I have to agree with BroncosBassist here. How is this a ‘bad move’? Simms is gone, likely for a month. The Broncos had to bring in another QB. You cannot go into the season being one twisted ankle from Tom Brandstater as the starting QB….
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As Guru said
It would free up a roster spot, and to reactivate him would require that spot back. But, I’m not sure of the answer to this: Is this the PUP list where you have to wait a certain amount of time before being reactivated? I can’t keep all these roster rules straight.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 26, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
If you strt the season on PUP, you're out until after Week 6
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 26, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Thus they have to hurry Simms' injury along.
Can’t afford to have him sit 6 weeks. Good call McDaniels…kitty knows, ya him do!
"If you strt the season on PUP, you're out until after Week 6 "
I think that to be placed on the PUP, you have to be placed on it at the start of training camp, like Rod Smith was a couple years ago. In contrast, Torain started trainign camp last year, then got hurt, and was ineligible for the PUP – only options for Torain were to be placed on the IR (thereby becoming out for the whole season) or being carried on the 53 man roster until he was healthy. So we’ll have to carry Simms on the 53 man roster.
...because sometimes your inner cowboy needs to yodel.
Running Back Marcus Thigpen was released...
…to make room for Martin according to Coach McD. Listened to the recently posted Wed. video.
by donandtamara on Aug 26, 2009 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Guess we had a Marcus to spare
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Nice avatar. The Wire was the best show on TV in the last decade+.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
The Wire
I went through the whole series via Netflix and mourned when I was done because I can never see it again for the first time. One of the best things TV has ever done.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Agreed.
I bought the whole series on DVD on word of mouth alone and regretted nothing. Never seen a show before or since that could be so realistic and at the same time have such lofty story-telling aspirations as The Wire. Literature on TV.
And since this is a Broncos post… I guess I’m okay with signing Ingle. Makes sense for preseason purposes, even with Orton and the first team playing in the games as long as they have been. Will Martin play ahead of TB in the 4th preseason game? If he performs poorly, can we call him Laura Ingles Wilder? Anyone have a better nickname?
Someone needs to run the scout team
Don’t you pretty much have to have three QBs? Starter and Backup to prep for the game and practice with the first and second units and someone to run the scout team to practice against the defense. Simms is on the sideline for about a month. This may give Brandstater a spot on the 53 man roster and Martin or someone a spot on the practice squad.
Keep Moving Forward.
He better work on his three step drops because if the Seattle game is any indication, a blind side hit is coming around step 5.
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by McGeorge on Aug 26, 2009 1:09 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Now THAT is funny.
ROFLMAO. Thanks for that.
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Tyler Thigpen
I know this might be sacrilege with all the talk of mortgaging the future by giving away draft picks and all that crap… but wouldn’t Thigpen for something like a 6th round pick not be a terrible idea?
Much like the plusses of the Hochstein trade, he has experience, working primarily out of the shotgun in a spread offense in KC, and is a definite upgrade over Brandstater and Martin. In my opinion, these 1st couple of games are critical for the Broncos given the premature McD hating and overall Raider fan like behavior of a good amount of Bronco Nation, and if Orton gets injured I would much much much prefer Thigpen instead of an in-over-his-head rookie and a guy just picked up off the street in games we have a good shot at winning and games we need if this season is going to be a success.
by rockchalkbronco on Aug 26, 2009 1:12 PM MDT reply actions
It wouldn't be a bad idea
if Simms were going to be out longer than just 2-4 weeks. If Simms has a set back or was supposed to be out longer, Thigpen would be a better #2 than Brandstater or Martin, definitely. But would rather the Broncs not lose yet another draft pick for someone they won’t need for more than a few weeks, imho.
Absolutely
I completely agree that Thigpen would be a better fit. He did pretty well on a lowly Chiefs team last year.
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Touche
Good point, tho I must admit part of my reasoning is that I’m not a big Chris Simms believer. I’ve watched him since he was at Texas and he holds on to the ball for way too long… and call me racist but I just dont trust spleenless people. jk…sort of
by rockchalkbronco on Aug 26, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
To each their own but imho
Simms is still > than Thigpen, having seen them both play at their “best.”
oh and… hah hah, re spleenless. That reminds me…
I'm embarrassed that I used to love that film.
"They're watching me."
by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 26, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I still like the film.
But i can blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-a-alcohol…
Lol, hate that stupid song.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Aug 26, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh, come on.
The “guy off the street” is Tatum Bell. He’s the original. Maybe he can play QB. LOL.
Seriously, I like that idea, but I wouldn’t want to give anything away for him. Let’s sign a BETTER nobody. Call up Rex Grossman. WHere is he anyway? OK, so the Rex suggestion was a joke, too. Who else is out there? Brad Johnson still with the Cowboys? Warren Moon willing to come out of retirement? After week 1, McNabb should be on the block again. We have more options, right?
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Kubiak signed Rex
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Chiefs Fan Here
You guys have a great blog here. Arrowhead Pride occasionally posts some articles your sight regarding football formations. From a Red perspective the only thing I would add to this conversation is that right now it is rumored that a fifth round pick has been offered for Thigpen from the Jags. I am not sure that he is worth much more than that—a dream sequence for us would probably be a third. His value may go up as QB’s get hurt and teams are left scrambling.
Regarding Ingle Martin, despite watching him play every preseason game and reading daily training camp updates for a few years I don’t have a single memory of Martin. He’s been an average player against third and fourth string defenses. Although keep this in mind, in the last few years the Chiefs third and fourth string players have been really bad.
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Thanks for the input schraggyj
Quite a few guys from AP visit here from time to time, and we usually all come away the better for it.
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by KaptainKirk on Aug 26, 2009 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks schraggyj
I don’t think anyone here is getting overly excited about Martin. We see it as a necessary pickup because Simms was badly hurt.
Good idea, except the Chiefs would never do it
Thigpen is the backup for the Chiefs… who would they use then, Ingle Martin? ;-)
Basically, no way the Cheif’s ever go for that unless we overpaid completly, and they still might not simply because we’re division rivals.
This is not Madden folks…
Thigpen
is up for grabs but its gonna take a lot more than a 6th round pick…the Jags offered us a 5th but we want a 3rd Id say a 4th would get him..I hope we keep him in KC though the guy can make plays hes not the best QB out there but hes a team player and can step in if Cassel gets hurt and is a lot less fragile than Brodie “Brokie” Croyle
Never...
heard of this guy. I know it’s just insurance just in case. There has got to be better options out there tho
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Oh Crap!
The Denver post reports:
“Defensive lineman Marcus Thomas, who injured his right shoulder Saturday against the Seahawks, started practice with the team but left the field after only one session of individual drills. He was wearing a brace on the shoulder and was holding his arm up funny while he walked to the locker room.”
Thomas might have a hairline fracture that was not seen in the past xray. I too had this happen to me my freshman year of football playing NT.
It might be Baker’s chance to shine! He looks like a beast when he is playing against the 2nd team, now is our chance to find out!
Any injury is bad.
It hurts our depth and Thomas was playing well.
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Anbody else shocked...
…that McD didn’t bring in a Patriots throwaway QB? I was going to provide Quinn Gray as an example of a guy that I wouldn’t have minded bringing in as a stopgap but I just read that he’s one of the cornerstones of that vaunted UFL.
That being said, Ingle is the next best thing. Big, intelligent stiff. Patriots type of guy. I actually thought he got a raw deal at Florida. Suffered a concussion and never saw the field again. He was their punter, too.. fwiw.
I don’t really understand the Thigpen rumblings. Simms will be good to go by opening day, and if not.. oh well. If we have to go with two QBs for a week or two into the regular season, so be it. Brandstater won’t look nearly as bad behind the starting O-Line, should disaster strike and Orton be injured.
As far as Marcus Thomas is concerned, I like him tools-wise.. but has his head ever really been in it? This is probably a moot point as it appears to be a minor injury, but I like our other options at DE, and he’s one less option blocking Chris Baker’s path to stardom at NT. In my opinion, of course.
Too much analysis
Methinks we think too much about such moves. This is not a move involving one of your top 60 players … so, perhaps, we should spare the microscopic analysis and go back to rejoicing over Floyd Little!
You can't make a great comeback unless you are way behind
What fun would that be?
Can’t we have our 8 hours of sweeping speculation, followed by forgetting any of this ever happened? :o)
j/k But a good point with Little! To the HoF!!!
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THe sad part is, our most recent bouts with sweeping speculation
have resulted in not being able to forget the “worst case scenario” aftermaths of this closing offseason.
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Why would there ever be a need to panic?
Given his considerable rust, I fail to see how Simms is that much ahead of Brandstater’s curve. This is an offense predicated on wacky formations and short, tactical passes. It doesn’t require the services of a QB with past NFL experience. At least Tom held onto his job in college.
One big difference
Simms has played in NFL games; he knows the speed of the NFL, even with the rust. Brandstater is still adjusting to a game going much faster than he’s used to, so as of right now, Simms has a pretty big advantage over Brandstater. That should change over time, however.
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by TheMastermind on Aug 26, 2009 5:37 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Other options
According to PFT, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are shopping some of their QB’s. If we are talking about Tyler Thigpen, then why not Luke McCown, Byron Leftwich, or Josh Johnson? Well, maybe not Leftwich, since he looks like the winner in their QB competition, but the other 2 should be available. I highly doubt that KC would trade their former starting QB to a division rival. Thoughts?
BTW, here is the link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/26/bucs-trying-to-deal-a-quarterback/
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Don't spend a draft pick
Just grab a guy off waivers if/when they get cut next week…
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