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Horse Tracks 8/27/09 - Hillis returns kicks; Thomas reportedly has separated shoulder

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DB - Broncos sign Martin, waive Thigpen - Chris Gentilviso
Ingle Martin and Russ Hochstein practiced with their new team yesterday.

DB - Opening the Doors - Gray Caldwell
The Broncos are looking forward to playing in front of the home crowd.

DB - Wednesday: McDaniels - Broncos TV
McDaniels talks about Ingle Martin and reacts to Jay Cutler's hatchet burial.

DB - Wednesday: Orton - Broncos TV
Orton talks about facing his old mates; he reminds us that the Broncos won't be passing three times down at the goal line very often during the regular season.

DB - Wednesday: Martin - Broncos TV
No offense to Martin, but I'm not expecting to see many more of these...

DP - Martin signs, gives boost to QB depth - Jeff Legwold
To make room for new QB Ingle Martin, the Broncos released RB Marcus Thigpen.

DP - To shore up kickoff return, Hillis receives plenty of reps - Jeff Legwold
Peyton Hillis practiced returning kicks yesterday, which he had done at Arkansas. Brandon Lloyd practiced and hopes to play Sunday. Marcus Thomas was wearing a brace on what's being reported by KDVR as a separated shoulder yesterday, but left practice and hit the weight room instead.

DP - McJaygate taboo issue among Broncos - Mike Klis
Nobody involved really wants to talk about you-know-what.

ESPN - Source: Palmer out vs. Rams, maybe preseason - James Walker
Walker is hearing that the next time QB Carson Palmer plays could be Week 1 versus the Broncos.

Star-divide

DP - Kiszla: A blame game fit for booing
Kiszla says that although McDaniels and Cutler claim the offseason drama is over, there will be plenty of boos come Sunday night, and that the fans will decide when the feud is done with.

DP - Cutler puts Broncos' trade in rearview mirror - Jeff Legwold

DB - Wednesday: Transcripts - McDaniels and Orton

DP - Sweet smell of success headed for Graham - Anthony Cotton
Former Bronco Tom Graham (and father of TE Daniel) has reached a licensing agreement with the NFL to sell team-logo air fresheners. Pretty good idea, huh?

DB - Bears Conference Call: Cutler - Audio
JC talks to the Denver press; he sounds comfortable with being a Bear now and ready to move on from the offseason drama.

AP - Cutler Has Good Things To Say About McDaniels - Arnie Stapleton

KDVR - Broncos News: Simms, Thomas hurt

CSG - Broncos not changing QB plans despite Simms' injury - Frank Schwab

CSG - Cutler makes nice about Denver return - Frank Schwab

DP - New Broncos QB completes circle - Jeff Legwold
The Titans cut Ingle Martin last year to make room for Chris Simms.

ESPN - Tuesday Morning Quarterback's AFC preview - Gregg Easterbrook
Hmm. Easterbrook thinks the Broncos will really miss Jeremy Bates because he'd done such a great job with Cutler. Not sure if he's ever heard of this guy McDaniels...

ESPN - Don't let Cutler's low-key approach fool you about his return to Denver - Melissa Isaacson

AP - Little had given up on Hall of Fame consideration - Arnie Stapleton

AFC West News

ESPN - Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable to be questioned by Napa police - Colleen Dominguez

SFC - Heyward-Bey's catch excites Cable - David White
Wow. Kid made one great catch. In practice. It's the small things in Jokeland...

CCT - Raiders' Huff working to turn his career around - Steve Corkran
This is the guy Al took over JC and Matt Leinart. Oops...

ESPN - Raiders ready to make move up - John Clayton
I think he's actually serious...

SDUT - There's more to Chargers at tight end than Gates - Bill Center

SDUT - In the sack is no place for Rivers, even in preseason - Nick Canepa

SDUT - Castillo happy to feel healthy - Kevin Acee

KCS - Chiefs notebook: Haley sees progress at wide receiver - Kent Babb

KCS - Thigpen keeps working despite frustration at quarterback - Adam Teicher

Y! - Haley, Pioli trying to reprogram Chiefs - Charles Robinson

NFL News

ESPN - Source: Minnesota Vikings locker room facing 'schism' over Brett Favre arrival - Adam Schefter

NFL - 'Dreams are coming true': Rookie Sanchez is Jets' starting QB

NFL - Niners starting QB Hill leaves practice with hurt back, should play Saturday

NFL - Boldin likely to miss Cardinals' game vs. Packers with sore hamstring

FOX - Last two draft holdouts far, far away from signing - John Czarnecki

NFL - Bucs RB Williams to see first game action since latest knee injury

NFL - Ravens TE Smith might be out for rest of preseason; DT Gregg also hurt

NFL - Bills RB Jackson should be OK to start season despite sprained wrist

NFL - Carriker back with Rams, but starting DT job isn't guaranteed, coach says

NFL - Bears DT Dvoracek to undergo arthroscopic surgery on right knee

NFL - Court documents show Roethlisberger's accuser offered fake resignation

NFL Opinion

NFP - Diner morning news: picking the right 14 - Mike Lombardi

SI - NFL preseason is poor imitation of real thing - Don Banks

SI - Aaron Brown, Jason Babin are reasons to like NFL preseason - Ross Tucker

NFP - Wednesday whys: No complaints from Rivers - Andrew Brandt

NFP - Expect Sanchez to struggle early - Matt Bowen

PFW - In QB standstill, tie goes to Sanchez

CBS - Cardinals camp tour: Good times to Super hangover? - Mike Freeman

SI - Shaun Hill ready to lead San Francisco 49ers after frustrating '08 - Jim Trotter

NFP - NFL notes: Bucs looking to make a deal? - Matt Bowen

NFP - Tavern talk: final almost blue list - Mike Lombardi

NYT - Assessing Packers’ Defensive Switch - KC Joyner

NYT - Why Dick LeBeau Deserves to Be in the Hall of Fame - Andy Barall

NFP - 2009 NFP scouting series: Maryland - Wes Bunting

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Good Morning nyc, Thanks...

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Aug 27, 2009 7:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks as always NYC

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Aug 27, 2009 7:28 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you nyc!

Sounds like JC listened to his coaches about how to handle the media calls for this week’s game. Good for him.

by MakeCents on Aug 27, 2009 7:35 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Which Marcus Thomas?

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Aug 27, 2009 7:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

darn

not good. : (

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!!!

I guess a potentially rusty Carson Palmer can only be a good thing come September 13.

by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 27, 2009 7:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts exactly!

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easterbrook

I’m not exactly impartial because I think he’s a terrible journalist who often gets his facts wrong and falls for trendy thinking. Also, the book about how Charlemagne never had a cell phone, so we should stop worrying about poverty…. that was classy. Anyway, that last TMQ is a prime example of the general disease of beltway journalists: cast a pox upon everything in sight, then clap yourself on the back for being The Last Honest Man in America.

For the last two years, he’s been beating up on Shanahan and Cutler. Shouldn’t have pulled the plug on Plummer he says. He has in fact been harsher on Shanny than anyone. Now that they’re gone, they’re sainted, and it’s time for the Smartest Guy in the Room to cut the new guys down to size. His history of anti-Semitism and and disregard for “facts” in journalism is just the cherry on the sundae.

Anyway, ’morning, and thanks as always NYC.

by Chibronx on Aug 27, 2009 8:19 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt even Easterbrook would classify himself as a journalist...

But it was rather amusing that he could be such a devoted Shanny-hater during Mike’s tenure here, and suddenly jump on the Bronco-hater bandwagon for replacing him – even as he nods toward the epic three-game collapse of last year.

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still a staff writer at the New Republic, regularly contributes to the Atlantic....

His specialty is taking academic studies out of context and making too big a deal out of them. Complaints from the specialists whose work he cites are always numerous. And he wrote a really lame, reactionary book.

by Chibronx on Aug 27, 2009 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

global warming

I’m aware of Easterbrook’s previous skepticism on global warming. He “converted” in 2006.

“As an environmental commentator, I have a long record of opposing alarmism. But based on the data I’m now switching sides regarding global warming, from skeptic to convert.”

Better late than never.

I’ve always refrained from political discussion here at MHR but GW is a scientific question — IMO.

"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas

by Colinski on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose I meant specifically TMQ not being "journalistic"

…which I don’t believe is his intention with that column. I don’t follow his other writings.

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a fan

I get frustrated how an article can take an hour to read and offer little substantive analysis. Though it’s interesting he takes the “Broncos will miss Bates” angle. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone, MSM or otherwise, suggest that letting Bates’s Pass-Pass-Pass-Kick (Variations include: Pass-Pass-Pass-INT, Pass-Pass-Pass-Pass-No-More-Downs, or Pass-Pass-Pass-Pout, though the last one might have been the QB improvising a bit) go elsewhere was a bad move. His writing reeks of being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

by bowma101 on Aug 27, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

contrarian for its own sake

sometimes I get that feeling as well from TMQ. I suppose that’s why I was a bit surprised he had jumped on the same hater bandwagon that most of the MSM have hitched their stars to regarding the Broncos. Especially considering his Shanny-bashing over the years.

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good way to put it

And then beyond the contrarianism, there’s the inevitable “lifestyle” elements of the column, like the part where he complains about continuity problems in Buffy and Battlestar Galactica. Or complains about federal agencies. Or ogles cheerleaders. If you look at pictures of them side by side, I’d actually give Peter King a better chance with the ladies. Which, yikes!

by Chibronx on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, burn.

Listen to his reasoning for picking Kyle:

“…Josh McDaniels is gonna have to throw the ball, because we know that defense in Denver is not very good. He’s gonna be throwing and trying to catch up, so Orton is going to get some garbage time points…”

"They're watching me."

by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 27, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and I'm not even going to comment on the other guy's response.

“We’re talking about Kyle Orton!”

Flaming Jesus on a pogo stick.

"They're watching me."

by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 27, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's it! I'm calling it right now!

Kyle Orton goes to the Pro Bowl in 2010. Bank it. ^^

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No comment. : ) (See sig.)

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol yeah i got that

Just thought it was a funny irony coming on the heels of my brand new siggy, that’s all. =)

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

I love this quote from Orton that he gave in an interview with AP today.

Someone asked who (between Orton and Cutler) will throw more touchdowns, and he fired back, "I don’t really care."

Why not?

"I don’t think touchdown passes necessarily equals wins."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Au.uJbfnQmZZlh0OaL46OR5DubYF?slug=ap-orton-bears&prov=ap&type=lgns

by vdisciple on Aug 27, 2009 8:33 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

A prediction of this season if I may...

Now I am no Kool Aid drinker, nor am I a pessimistic fan.

Worst case Scenario: This team turns into Detroit of last year and goes 0-16

Best case Scenario: This team turns into the Pats of a couple years ago and goes 16-0.

I believe we are capable, even with our tough schedule of going 10-6 winning our division. I believe we are also capable of going 7-9 because of our schedule. But I do believe that we will have a better win loss record than last year. I look to see the Broncos go 10-6 with a plus or minus 1 game.

I think some of these top notch teams we actually have a chance at beating, while a couple others I don’t see we’ll get the job done.

I say lets let the chips fall where they may – we will be better this year than we were last!

by Broncs55 on Aug 27, 2009 8:48 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Nyc

I’m curious. When the season gets into full swing, are you going to fill two pages with article links? Or will you have to filter things down. You are too good to us.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 27, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

You are too good to us ; )

Thanks for the tracks, and that is a good question Kap’n

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 27, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That IS a great question, Kirk. I’ve thought about it a bit lately, and I’m not sure how I will handle things. Mondays will obviously be results/facts heavy; actual news will always take precedent; I don’t know if I’ll have to pare down how many columns I include. Honestly, it’ll be a work in progress which I’ll play by ear, to cliche you to death…I suppose I’ll do as much as I can do without driving myself nutty. I’ll admit that I’m glad training camp is over – that was a bit much…

by Douglas A. Lee on Aug 27, 2009 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

well we all appreciate your efforts very much, NYC!

Thank you!

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever you decide, nyc

Tracks has become the ultimate daily cruise for Broncos fans – and, I’ve heard, a lot of other fans, too. Your work has been nothing short of exceptional, and it’s appreciated more than you could know. Whatever you decide will undoubtedly be just as excellent as everything to date.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Aug 27, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 Kitty and Bear

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 27, 2009 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks a TON, NYC!

Really… the sheer volume of articles is great to see and start with in the morning.

Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."

by BroncTastic on Aug 27, 2009 9:11 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

John Clayton

I’m constantly amazed at how these jock sniffers from the MSM manage to always make mountains out of mole hills. I don’t know who’s worse Clayton, Dukes, or Glazer. Is Clayton so worried that Shefter make take over his job, which is probably not a bad idea, that he inflates stuff to create drama?

by George Hayduke on Aug 27, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks nyc

Hillis returning kicks, i would hate to be the one he is running at in full speed. LOL. Clayton is a moron, I hope scheffer takes his job, but im sure espn will ruin him also

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Aug 27, 2009 10:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Floyd Little article

It’s great to hear from Floyd Little regarding his nomination for the Hall. My favorite line in that article is:

“It’s the 44th Super Bowl,” he said. “An African-American just became our 44th president. I wore No. 44. I just feel it’s my time.”

It is well past your time Floyd, but the single greatest injustice of the Hall of Fame is about to be rectified. #44 to the Hall!

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Aug 27, 2009 10:35 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

schefter on this weekend's games

Adam Schefter on twitter this morning:


Vick debut, Cutler back to Denver, Favre on MNF, Cowboys scoreboard – has to be one of most significant preseason weekends in NFL history.

by underdog on Aug 27, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I see he has already started to ESPNize himself

heaven forbid something was not “the most signifigant ever”

by moomacher on Aug 27, 2009 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed but...

I tend to agree with that comment

by Broncs55 on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it is that significant

I mean unless McNabb plays horrible Vick won’t start this season. Favre has never retired so seeing him on MNF isn’t surprising, however I probably won’t watch the game. The Cowboys scoreboard is a monstrosity and looks really insane. You sit in the upper deck seats, the scoreboard is all you will be looking at. Culter coming back to Denver is because it is Bronco fans’ chance to give him crap.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Aug 27, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Befitting of the Cowboys, dontcha think?

lol

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by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Klis needs to let it rest. The news is over and done, bye bye.

Find something constructive to write about you ding dong!

by bfree2bronc on Aug 27, 2009 11:50 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

alright, twinkies...cut it out! ;-)

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Aug 27, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes hostess

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by broncosmontana on Aug 27, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

I represent that comment!

by Broncs55 on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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