2009 Denver Broncos Training Camp - 8/4 Practice - Not at Camp, Not a Problem

by John Bena on Aug 4, 2009 5:32 PM MDT in 2009 Denver Broncos Season Preview

Yes, it is true, I am back home in the hot and sticky Midwest. That doesn't mean, however, that I can't keep tabs on what is happening at Dove Valley from afar. I mean, this website was built on that premise and, well, we've done alright for ourselves.

Here is the latest coming out of the Valley, at least until some of our members get their thoughts posted later tonight.

It is the Broncos' turn to be visited by a NFL officiating crew. I was there for this portion of Camp last year and it is fun to see 11x11 with actual referees calling the action. The crew will also take time to go over any rules changes with the media. Ironically, it is none other than Ed Hochuli's crew that will be spending a couple days in Denver. Luck of the draw, I guess.

LB Nic Greisen was placed on IR today ending his season. Greisen was hurt during yesterday's practice and had to be carted off the field. The Broncos wasted no time bringing in his replacement, however, LB Braxton Kelly will take Greisen's roster spot marking his second stint with the Broncos. The roster stands at 81 including Knowshon Moreno. When the Broncos do finally get Moreno in camp they will have to release a player.

Brian Dawkins was seen leaving the practice field alongside a trainer. It was apparently an upper-body injury.

MHR favorite Jack Williams had a big day intercepting Kyle Orton twice, including a pick down at the goal line that the 2nd year DB took 99 yards for a touchdown. Williams has been starting at the nickel-corner and with plays like that will continue to hold off rookie Alphonso Smith for the job.

Robert Ayers hit the practice field for the first time, seeing action on the 2nd unit behind Elvis Dumervil.

Jarvis Moss returned, though you have to wonder for how long. Once you let a coach know that your heart isn't really into it, you imagine it is only a matter of time. Could be a purely financial move. If Moss quits he would owe the Broncos $3.6 million. If the Broncos cut him, he would keep money already earned, including the signing bonus. What would you do?

REMINDER - The Broncos will be practicing at Invesco Field this Thursday Night. It is free and open to the public. You can get all the information HERE

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Thanks John

Will Braxton kelly be taking Greisens number?

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 4, 2009 5:49 PM MDT reply actions

Moss

I’m glad they gave Jarvis a chance to mull things over and decide how committed he is to his career. But I believe if McDaniels and/or Nolan sees any evidence that he isn’t committed, they should cut him as soon as possible. If Jarvis isn’t hitting the sled or running his drills at 100% full tilt, they can sure as hell find someone ready to jump right in and do it at 1/1,000,000 the cost.

As Goodell says, playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right.

by pshin8670 on Aug 4, 2009 5:56 PM MDT reply actions

Thanks John,

Glad your back with the family, but miss
your Birds eye updates.
Tell us more about how the msm treated,
you— up close & personal…

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Aug 4, 2009 5:59 PM MDT reply actions

To be honest...

They were really nice with me. I think, and this is my opinion, when they saw how seriously I took what I was doing, and how professional I acted, they gained some respect. I have a tone of respect for them as well. This is a hobby, they put in all those hours as their job. At a $/hour rate, it can’t be “worth” it….

Jeff Legwold = All Class….

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by John Bena on Aug 4, 2009 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions

Thanks John,

I was hoping you were getting equal footing,
and the local msm was accepting MHR as
a valid Bronco source.
Its true they get paid to cover the Broncos,
but if you do what you love—money is secondary…my opinion.
Agree, Jeff is a class act…

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Aug 4, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions

7 on 7s

Hey guys, can anyone tell me what positions (both offense and defense) generally are involved in 7 on 7 drills?

by Timimus on Aug 4, 2009 7:22 PM MDT reply actions

It is usually everyone but the offensive and defensive lines (I think)

by adamriggs on Aug 4, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions

Correct.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 5, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions

Is the issue with Moss...

…that his “heart isn’t in to it”, or does he have some personal issues that are a distraction? If the guy has some personal issues (such as mental health or family concerns) those can be addressed and Moss can continue to do well (McDaniels seems to indicate Moss is doing well in practice).

I’m thinking that the quickness of Moss’s decision would imply that he’s being impulsive and not thinking things through. This could be youth (fear for his position battle) or mental illness (depression / anxiety). That he was allowed to come back, came back so soon, and seemed to have the support of the coach and fellow players might indicate he has a solvable problem that just needed some personal space. Also, the fact that we don’t know where he went, what he did, and the fact that the team is pretty quiet about it might indicate that he did a little more than just disapear to think about things.

It’s only a hunch on my part. I’m thinking that something panicked the kid (even if it is all in his head), and the coaches told him to take a few days to get away from the field. He probably has good value if they gave him that time, AND welcomed him back. If he was just mulling be a quitter (and wasn’t doing well as a player) I think things would have been handled differently.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 5, 2009 4:56 AM MDT reply actions

I think you are probably correct HT

Moss did not stand out to me in the first two days. A first round pick in his third year should be making some plays and standing out. Many times the D Line was far distant from where I was sitting and he may have been doing much better in some of the drills. Guru could give us a better analysis of his play. The defenders were closer to the air-conditioned tent with scantily clad cheerleader types bringing iced refreshments to the media guys with credentials. We pee-ons had to bake in the sun.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Aug 5, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions

LMAO!

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Aug 5, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions