Ten Commandments of Bronco Fanship
by Jezru on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM MDT
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As a fun diversion from the training camp addiction I'm managing, I thought it would be fun to put together a list of 10 Commandments for Broncos Fans. Of course, if you have any that you think I missed perhaps these commandments could and should be added to and/or amended.
1. The greatest QB ever to play in the NFL was John Elway. (That shalt not worship false idols)
2. The Raiders must always lose - even if it helps us. The only good Raider fan is a sad one.
3. The Barrel Man shall always represent the unattainable fandom that we all must strive for day in and day out.
4. Thou shalt not miss Broncos games unless there is a damn good reason (Births, weddings, power outage, locusts, etc.)
5. Thou shalt have the keyword Broncos programmed into the DVR in first position in case of such unavoidable instances.
6. Thou shalt revere Mike Shannahan as the back-to-back Superbowl winning coach he once was and not the türd drafter he would later become.
7. Thou shalt not refer to it simply as "Invesco". One must always at least include the words "Mile High" or soley refer to it as such.
8. Thou shalt harbor a high degree of disgust for the Hall of Fame (At least until the Broncos are justfully represented).
9. Thou shalt root for the city, colors and team; not individual players that have departed (Exceptions being Dominic Foxworth and Jason Elam).
10. Thou shalt enter each and every season with the expectation of not only making the playoffs, but the Superbowl as well.
Any suggestions?
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thou shalt hate brett favre with the heat of a 1000 suns
thou shalt refer to SB32 as “greatest super bowl EVER”
(okay, maybe this is just me here)
by lolcopter on Aug 5, 2009 2:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That was definitely what they said at the time...
though there have been a spate of close finishes lately. The “head catch” to beat the Pats is right up there for my top plays of all time, along with the “helicopter” of course.
"Remember, it's only a game."
by robswenson on Aug 5, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of amendments/disagreements:
2. I’m okay with the Raiders winning if it helps the Broncos (but only if it helps the Broncos).
4. Thou shall not miss a Broncos game! PERIOD!!!
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Aug 5, 2009 3:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
#4
I’m an East Coaster (left Denver in 01) so after 7 years of internet tv, sirius radio and waiting for highlights I GOT DIRECT TV NFL SAUNDAY PACKAGE !!! I can’t wait for this season. Go forth and sin no more !!
"as in football so in life"
by asinsoin on Aug 5, 2009 3:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That's blasphemy you know.
Thou shalt not puncture rival visiting fans’ tires in the parking lot.
Thou shalt honor thy teams Owner and Team.
Thou shalt not covet a 13-3 season even if it is predestained.
Thou shalt not lie about being so good and then be so good.
Thou shalt not kill the spirit of 13-3 Baby!!!
Thou shalt believe thy team and only thy team.
Thou shalt not make onto yourselves a graven image of anything other than the Bronco logo.
Thou shalt not adulterate thy team by saying good things about other teams.
by bfree2bronc on Aug 5, 2009 3:24 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
LoL
Nice additions Bfree!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 5, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice - Rec'd
I love it – I always do. When I can happily print a post from MHR for whatever reason….
A couple amendations… imo, of course – maybe I’ll wait a bit before printing to see if you add/change
- -No.2 don’t you mean ‘…even if it hurts the Broncos’?
- - No.5 you could just remove the word ‘such’ – and it would flow better
- - No.9 Trevor Pryce, Steve Atwater (even though he still came back to retire a Bronco)
And maybe just move number one to #7, just because… But man, digworthy post for sure! Thanks Jezru – I will perpetually get a kick out of it!
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points...
Trevor Pryce is allowed. Atwater? Once you’re in the Ring of Fame your non-Broncos transgressions are forgiven. Shoot, nobody remembers that one year anyway (let us never speak of it again).
J
by Jezru on Aug 5, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
#7 should be:
Thou shalt not take John Elway’s arm in vain.
by bfree2bronc on Aug 5, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny post Jezru - thanks.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Aug 5, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed Al
Al Wilson is an acceptable exception, in addition to Atwater, Pryce, Elam, etc.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 6, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al never played for any other teams
That was the emphasis of no. 9 – to not root for players that departed to play for another team (or at least that was how I took it). But yeah, I’ll always root for Al too!
; )
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 6, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
#4
.. only if it’s your own wedding! and, even then, you might as well ask!
I’ve been married for 44 years and I guess asking would NOT be a good idea1 LOL!
" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "
by hairybear on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I got married last year on September 20th in Seattle....
You better believe that when we played the Saints on the 21st (in our fancy orange unis) that I was at a sports bar watching. However… this year our one year anniversary happens to be when we play Cleveland…. After seeing your advice above… sigh…
J
by Jezru on Aug 5, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't do it man!
You gotta set the ground rules early. Once you start missing games for “good” you’re gonna become expected to miss games for lame reasons. The precedent must be set…I was smart (ok lucky) enough to have been married in the summer so I don’t have to worry about this.
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Aug 5, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these issues are reasons why I will never marry someone NOT a Bronco fan.
She loves me AND the Broncos equally, as I feel the same for her. :)
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
...I am missing her Birthday so I can fly to Denver to catch the Bears Broncos Pre-Season game...
Can I declare it a wash?
J
P. S. I would not recommend doing what I’m doing. Though, when asked if it was okay for me to go, she said “yes”, that is not what she really meant.
by Jezru on Aug 5, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, consider it a WIN.
Not a wash
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 5, 2009 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Unless your last name is McNabb, there are no ties in football! =)
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 5, 2009 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lucked out...
Got married in September, then went to Bermuda on Sunday. Fortunately for me (or was it strategic planning?), the Broncos were on Monday Night, and ABC was on there! Sadly, though, I think they blew a huge first half lead…and maybe even to the raiders. ’Twas long ago.
So anyway, if you don’t get cooperation, then get married when the next game is not on Sunday (or better, on the bye week). You haven’t compromised anything that way, and yet you’ve kept the peace.
by MakeCents on Aug 5, 2009 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, the one thing..............
I stipulated before my wife and I got married was that I get the TV anytime the Broncos are playing, absolutely no exceptions!!! LOL
We gotta get nastier on D!!!!!!!!!
by Broncofan on Aug 6, 2009 7:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a stipulation in a lease agreement I wrote up for some kids who
rented a room from us for the summer this year. On the off chance that they would be staying until the season started, I wrote a clause int he lease that says the TV is OFF LIMITS during any Broncos broadcast or related programming.
I also had a clause that stipulated my border collie was to be be petted and given treats on a regular basis, so it wasn’t exactly a “normal” lease agreement….
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 6, 2009 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Border collies SHOULD be petted and given constant treats
And constant walkies…My guides left me prejudiced for goldens, but border collies and goldens are my favorite breeds – so smart, and the BCs are easily the smartest of the two. How old?
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Aug 6, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 years old
give or take…
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 7, 2009 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What great faces!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Aug 7, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My own commandment
Well 2 that I’ve had forever:
1) The Broncos record prediction from me will be 19-0, until the first loss, then 18-1, etc….
2) The Super Bowl prediction from me will be Denver vs. Green Bay with Denver winning.
by Trogdoor on Aug 5, 2009 3:57 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I almost want to say Denver vs. Chicago...
But that would mean the Cutler and the Bears were successful enough to make it to the Superbowl and I just don’t want that to happen…especially this year since we have their pick.
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Aug 5, 2009 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree on your first commandment
by AlexSmith5280 on Aug 8, 2009 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL .........funny post..let me have a try........
1. Thou shalt reverence orange and blue sunsets…its from GOD..a Denver fan.
2. Thou shalt remember what great fans GOD has made you.
3. Thou shalt remember that as the great fans (that GOD has made you) We Will Win! ..until we don’t.
4. Thou shalt remember the sabboth for after bringing Shanny and two Super Bowls he rested.
5. Thou shalt honor the many greats that kept this franchise alive and have been ignored by the Hall.
6. Thou shalt not love any injury to apponents, thou will love the hit, but not the kill.
7. Thou shalt not love any other team unless you’ve been a fan for over forty years and had to have an alternate to maintain your sanity (in the early years) until GOD made Denver his team.
8. Thou shalt not steal except you be in Denver’s defense, if there steal and steal often.
9. Thou shalt not believe the slanted witness of the MSM.
10. Thou shall only covet wins, playoffs, and Super Bowl.
I’m a little surprised I’m posting this. We’re supposed to have thunder storms tomorrow……..I think I’ll stay inside.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Aug 5, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
+7 MC!
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 5, 2009 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Effin Hilarious!
We’re/I’m going to have to compile a ‘best of…’ outta everyone’s ideas here…. #‘s 1, 2, 6 and 8 of yours will make it for sure….
LOL – Thanks for posting your list, I’m sure God checked your post, saw that it was good. and said that it was good. You ought to be fine going out ; )
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 5, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all over 7 and 8
7. I always call it “the new Mile High” and never even mention the “I” word.
8. Don’t even get me started. The NFL is and will always be an absolute joke until the Broncos are fairly represented. One of THE most successful franchises over the last 35 years has 2 players in it now? Makes sense. NOT.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The NFL HoF …. I meant.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Aug 5, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's always been "Mile High" to me Bob.
by bfree2bronc on Aug 5, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
always will be
I don’t think I’ve ever referred to the Big IF as anything but Mile High. I know it’s not the same place, but we can treat the original with the reverence it deserves and still use the name for the home of the Broncos.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 6, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Mike Clark for #7
For those of us who were there, Denver was always God’s team , especially in the early years.
by danelama on Aug 5, 2009 6:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I might not have been in Denver...but I was there...
I didn’t mean to get any ‘ires’ up …. I just meant we learned to follow (as second teams) winning teams and players and learned to love them also. That ended in ’77. … I now only like a few other teams because of memories from those years.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Aug 6, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your sig speaks volumes Mike.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Aug 6, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weddings and funerals
are not acceptable reasons for missing Bronco games, unless of course you are the one in the box at a funeral. And what kind of fool would schedule your funeral during a Bronco game? Old Blister will probably have the funeral before the game and then invite everybody over for beers to watch the game.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Aug 5, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
a perfectly acceptable compromise
is to be buried at the 50 yard line at Mile High.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 5, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grass at Mile High is Green...
Because for so many years we have cremated every foe who dared enter and spread their ashes to the enjoyment of the grass.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on Aug 5, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A rare disagreement Firstfan.
…unless of course you are the one in the box at a funeral.
So being dead is supposed to be an excuse? C’mon now First. An exegetical reading of the story of Lazerus shows that the man needed to get to a Broncos game (that’s when they were playing for Bethlehem).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 6, 2009 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good grief!
I had forgotten that passage.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Aug 6, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post.
Thou shalt surf for Denver Broncos stories before surfing for other teams’ stories.
by Broncos_FTW on Aug 5, 2009 7:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
thou shalt always make a top 10 list a top 11...
because all #7’s are retired for Elway.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 5, 2009 8:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Literally
First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 5, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha spot on.
That was clever. well played sir.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 5, 2009 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spinal Tap
“This one goes to eleven”
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 6, 2009 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Couldn't you just make it still go to 10 and have 10 be louder?"
“…..but it goes to eleven.”
lmao, love that movie.
“Listen to the sustain”
No stairway... Denied!
by papigrande on Aug 6, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"He died...
…in a freak gardening accident."
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 6, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The police decided that it was a mystery best left unsolved."
Also, “He choked on vomit. Someone else’s. They don’t know who it was— you can’t really test for vomit.”
Lol, I could do this all day. That’s going to be me and my band in 25 years.
No stairway... Denied!
by papigrande on Aug 6, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually...
“You can’t dust for vomit”
Loved it!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 8, 2009 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen to that sustain...
just listen, don’t talk. you hear that? lol
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 6, 2009 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What's wrong with being sexy?"
“No, not sexy, sexist.”
Just wanted to contribute a line One of my all time favorites.
by bowma101 on Aug 6, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hear anything
“well if I was playing, you’d hear the sustain”
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 6, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please back away from the Drummer.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 6, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't I own that?!?!?!
I’m looking into that right now….
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 7, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Now that's really beautiful. What is it?"
“It’s kind of a Mozart and Bach piece. Kind of a ‘Mach’ piece if you will. I call it ’Lick my Love Pump”
“Oh”
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 8, 2009 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Where's the stage?"
“It’s him again. Well bloody hell”.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 8, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Don't even LOOK at it"
“I, I’m sorry”
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 8, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
beat me to it. good call
All you get from drafting the "best player available" is a team full of good football players.
by orangeblood on Aug 7, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post J...and make the rules now!
My 30th wedding anniversary will be Nov 24 of this year. We had to drive in a blizzard at night 350 miles to go on our honeymoon because yes the Broncos played the Raiders the afternoon of Nov. 25, 1979 and we just couldn’t leave until it was over! My lovely bride became a Bronco fan and we have lived in shear bliss ever since!!
13-3 baby!
All my children and grandchildren are also Bronco fanatics! GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Aug 5, 2009 8:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe it should be "sheer" bliss...oops got a little excited
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Aug 5, 2009 8:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thou Shalt Chant "13-3 Baby" Three Times a Day as a Way of Giving Alms to Thy Team
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Aug 5, 2009 8:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thou Shalt wear your Team Colors in proud defiance of lowly fader fans
and smite them with overwhelming logic to make them cower and scurry back to their black hole.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Aug 5, 2009 8:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate KC more than I hate Oakland. Does anyone else feel the same way.
Thou shall root passionately against Phil Rivers at all times.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Aug 5, 2009 9:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate San Diego more than I hate KC, and Oakland...they do they still exists?
by bfree2bronc on Aug 5, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
"The night is darkest just before the dawn."- Harvey Dent
by broncofan91 on Aug 5, 2009 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs have certainly cost us more playoff opportunities
as I recall. (Memory could be faulty.) But the Chargers — now those clowns are just flat out annoying.
"Talk about the Broncos and I'm gonna 'put my dukes up'. I'm gonna hit you with these rings." -- Rod Smith giving the Kennison rebuttal to Jamie Dukes
by broncosmontana on Aug 5, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
thou shall always love the mile high salute.
by denverfurby on Aug 5, 2009 10:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Dad always said...
..that 2-14 is a great and successful season as long as the 2 come against the Raiders. Those fans that weathered the AFL days in Denver? They really hate the Raiders. Like, really.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer
by PredominantlyOrange on Aug 5, 2009 10:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That happens when you lose TWENTY straight games to a hated rival...
That tie in 72 must have felt like winning the Super Bowl.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Aug 6, 2009 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foxworth..
still pissed we traded him away! What a class act that guy was….
by Vandylaxn21 on Aug 6, 2009 11:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No offense, but weddings aren't a good reason to miss a game
I can remember at my Dad’s last wedding watching the pre-season game during the reception with the rest of my family, his wife’s family was asking what the hell we were doing, explanation, my dad has gotten married many times before, but the Broncos are on and we only get to see that a certain time during the year.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
by Broncoman on Aug 7, 2009 3:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
That’s a great story b-man.
Peyton Hillis is also referred to in early Greek mythology by his other names such as Zeus or Poseidon.
by Joe Medina on Aug 7, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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