Horse Tracks 9/1/09 - Orton has dislocated knuckle; Kuper has high ankle sprain

DB - Final Preseason Push - Patrick Smyth
Press release notes for Thursday night's finale versus the Cardinals.
DP - Broncos hurting at QB - Mike Klis
Kyle Orton suffered an open dislocation of the knuckle on his right index finger, which reportedly puts his availability for the season opener in jeopardy.
CSG - Broncos' guard Kuper has ankle sprain - Frank Schwab
Chris Kuper reportedly has a high ankle sprain; no word on how long he'll be out. The trade for Russ Hochstein is looking more important...
NFP - Marshall plan has precedent - Andrew Brandt
Brandt reminds us that the Broncos have experienced several high-profile contract disputes and/or groundbreaking trades, including Clinton Portis, Ashley Lelie and Jay Cutler.
DP - Mailbag: Brandstater? More like Brandstarter - Mike Klis
Klis responds to emails
ESPN - Too Short For A Column: 08/28/09 - Rick Reilly
As rururuland784 posted, Rick Reilly is hearing that Jay Cutler did actually return Pat Bowlen's phone calls.
DP - Scoring not a strong point for Broncos - Jeff Legwold
DP - Kiszla: Band-Aid approach a boo-boo
Kiszla isn't happy about the Broncos' new secretive policy regarding injuries. Get used to it...
DB - High School Reunion - Zach Eisendrath
There are three sets of high school teammates among the Broncos' players and coaches.
CSG - Might be preseason, but Broncos need a win - Frank Schwab
I disagree. They just need to play better. Why in the world does winning matter in the preseason?
KDVR - Tanaka's Take: Broncos, Cutler & The Future
LTC - Not ready yet - Brian Howell
LTC - Preseason showing bodes ill for Broncos - Brian Howell
MH - Miami Dolphins should go after Brandon Marshall, baggage and all - Greg Cote
IDT - Drew Litton: Broncos Season Ahead
DP - Sunday's game attracts big TV audience
RMI - Denver Broncos fans offer forecast for season - Andy Piper
DP - Little in running for more memories - Irv Moss
Moss profiles Broncos legend and HOF nominee Floyd Little.
SU - Floyd Little Podcast
An interview with Floyd Little, courtesy of his alma mater.
NFL Results
NFL - Minnesota Vikings 17 at Houston Texans 10
Brett Favre and Adrian Peterson had productive games for the Vikings, while Matt Schaub sprained his left ankle but kept playing. Favre reportedly may have a cracked rib.
AFC West News
NFL - Extent of Cassel's injury remains unknown as Chiefs stay quiet
KCS - Gailey out as Chiefs offensive coordinator - Adam Teicher
Umm, oops? Wow.
KCS - Haley’s timing off on firing - Jason Whitlock
KCS - Coaching change strange, QB absent - Randy Covitz
KCS - Chiefs buzz: Team’s injury list is a long one - Adam Teicher
NFP - Haley tries to save Chiefs’ offense - Matt Bowen
SDUT - Chargers trade for defensive lineman from Texans - Kevin Acee
The Dolts gave up a conditional 5th-round pick in the 2010 draft which could become a 6th-rounder for Texans D-lineman Travis Johnson. They are also on the lookout for another CB.
SDUT - Bolts sign seventh-round pick Byrd - Kevin Acee
SDUT - Backs figure into roster decisions - Kevin Acee
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Let the healing begin - David White
SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Raiders make first cuts - David White
Jokeland is already down to 75 players.
SFC - Oakland teams haven't hit rock bottom - Scott Ostler
NFL News
NFL - Giants' Umenyiora says he 'made a mistake' by leaving team facility
NFL - Brady, or Anderson? Mangini still undecided on his QB
NFL - Stafford takes all reps in practice with Culpepper, Stanton hurt
BG - QB O’Connell is waived - Mike Reiss
CSN - Patriots Release QB Kevin O’Connell
Y! - Former big-time recruit, NFL prospect arrested - Charles Robinson
NFL Opinion
NFP - Diner morning news: Weekend rewind - Mike Lombardi
NFL - 49ers, Packers, Saints are impressive; Browns, Raiders ... not so much - Pat Kirwan
NFP - How Cutler makes the Bears better - Matt Bowen
PFW - Pressure building on Packers bosses - Rob Reischel
PFW - Texans' 'D' struggling, but potential for improvement is evident - Mike Wilkening
SI - Brett Favre under pitch count with Minnesota Vikings - Steve Aschburner
SI - Brett Favre, Michael Vick and more QBs to watch this season - Norman Chad
SI - Brett Favre passes biggest test of preseason - Peter King
CBS - AFC East preview: Division's uncommon denominator? Brady - Pete Prisco
CBS - Panthers camp report: Passing will never catch Fox's fancy - Pete Prisco
FOX - Schein Nine: NFL preseason's unsolved mysteries
ESPN - A glaring oversight overhead - John Clayton
Clayton's mailbag
NYT - Brees’s Pursuit of Marino’s Record: A Word of Advice From Kevin Smith - KC Joyner
NFP - Tavern talk: Blue power rankings - Mike Lombardi
NFP - Daily Jolt fantasy preview - Ray Gustini
NFP - Preseason senior position rankings - Wes Bunting
NFL - Senior class of cornerbacks solid heading into 2010 draft - Gil Brandt
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Good Morning nyc, Thank You for all you do on Horse Tracks...
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Sep 1, 2009 6:44 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
NYC – You need to proof your last post about Rick Reilly. It doesn’t make sense as it is currently written.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Sep 1, 2009 7:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe Jay is talking to himself?
Just kidding.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by BShrout on Sep 1, 2009 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Thanks, McG. I added that link after the fact, and was already in quite a rush to get done with Tracks and ready for work; I had gotten off to a late start. Appreciate the heads up.
by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 1, 2009 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else read Kiszla's article?
He’s complaining that McDaniels did not immediately announce Orton’s injury. This leaves me curious about two things:
1)How many HC’s are qualified to make a precise medical diagnosis in the middle of a game? Shouldn’t they be focussed on (gasp) the game? And even if McDaniels was aware of the nature of the injury, is he under any obligation to tell the media?
2)How quickly we forget that Mike Shanahan was called on the carpet by the NFL for being less than forthcoming with his injury lists. I’m guessing that many coaches dance around the truth when it comes to telling the world about their players’ injuries.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by BShrout on Sep 1, 2009 7:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with you B
It appears to me that Josh has his priorities straight; Team first- Media relations last.
Thanks NYC. The colorful remarks made me smile this morning.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." ā Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Sep 1, 2009 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patriots mentallity...
The Patriots are notorious for being very vague on injuries.
by coffee on Sep 1, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Kiszla is mentally retarded. Iām not trying to be funny, that is a fact. Please don’t waste your time reading anything he writes.
Other than Bill Williamson, there is not a less qualified sports writer in the business than Kiszla.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm proudly 4 years into Kizla recovery.
Abstinence is the key. Even venturing to the DPO is like an alcoholic trying to do the weed thing— be very careful. They can suck you in and make you feel all hopeless again.
Head McG’s advice on this one. Its liberating.
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 1, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny story. the chiefs neglected to tell people that thigpen played the last game with broken ribs
his agent spilled the beans
by lolcopter on Sep 1, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the media doesn't like not being told everything
than that is something they are going to have to deal with…..TOUGH.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww
They’re just scared they’ll have to actually work for a living.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." ā Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."
by KaptainKirk on Sep 1, 2009 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reilly Please
Seriously man, how easy would it be to prove that you called someone? You would have a record on your phone, they would have a missed call record, and I am willing to bet you don’t call Pat Bowlen directly, there might be a secretary involved who would remember the call….
Just some theories, I don’t buy that piece.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 8:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have three sources that say...
…that Reilly doesn’t have three sources.
Sheesh. Bowlen wasn’t even in town when Cutler’s agent claims he spoke to Bowlen in Denver. This is all so “yesterday”. Let’s move on. Cutler demanded a trade before McDaniels was even hired. McDaniels turned down an offer that another team made, and Cutler used it to up the ante. This gets forgotten by a sloppy press that reported these same facts before the story tunred into an inferno.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Find it Unfortunate
That because someone makes decisions that the press doesn’t understand they are falling into the “well he must be mentally deranged” byline.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like Reilly's articles about inspiring sports storys....
…he should just keep his work to that type of stuff. It allows his very positive and endearing attitude to be shown….as opposed to this fabrication type stuff. I dont think Bowlen would have issued a fan wide letter after the whole Cutler fiasco if he was secretly just not answering Jay’s calls.
On To Victory!!!
by alacumba!! on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It Is All Speculation
What you think, what I think, what whoever thinks. Ultimately if he did call him back then why say he didn’t?
I don’t think any mental condition would have resulted in this mistake. Bowlen has personal assistants to help compensate and keep track of this stuff. It isn’t like you and I missing personal cell phone calls and even if it was there would be a record on the phone.
This is a non story.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely Agree
We’ll never know what really happened and it is time to move on. I do have to voice my opinion that it seems like Bowlen is slipping— his public appearances are become more strained and awkward. I wish the man good health, but I don’t know… it just doesn’t seem like he’s doing that well at 65.
by legendarywalton on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phone records
I remember at the time when this all went down when Cutler’s camp denied the attempts of Bowlen & McD trying to call him. The immediate statement released from The Broncos was “we have the phone records”. Cook & Cutler shut right up on this topic after Bowlen said that.
I completely agree with Kfustud. Phone records can easily prove if calls were made or not. HT is right on as well with all of his points, especially about this being over and done with a long time ago. It’s amazing that the media can mis-report a topic to the extent that they actually rewrite history, at least the history as many people view it. The accepted view of how Cutler-gate went down just doesn’t add up and many facts conflict the storyline that they are selling. Informed fans know better, but there are many mis-informed fans that do not.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
by c_style on Sep 1, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Story doesn’t pass a basic smell test. 3 unnamed sources, puh-leeeeze.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 1, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the three sources
remained unidentified then that says it all right there and why now? It is like those people that accuse athletes of something several months after the alleged incident happened.
This is pure bogus.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me a pessimist...
…but open dislocation just doesn’t jive with ‘ready for Cincy’. Denver’s best hope is that Simms can be ready.
Are the Broncos, uh, maybe cursed or something? Nothing goes right. Its starting to take a toll on the ‘fun’ thing for this fan.
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 1, 2009 9:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Know
How often did Favre play with a splint on his finger or something like that.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How often did Favre play terribly with a splint on his finger or something like that.
fixed for accuracy
by lolcopter on Sep 1, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still Played
HA!
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best case scenario...
…its like asking a fireman to do his job with one boot. Possible, but annoying at best, disasterous at worst.
QUIT PILING ON FOOTBALL GODS!!! WE’RE SORRY FOR WHATEVER WE DID!!!!
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 1, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why Orton was practicing left handed throws
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
by c_style on Sep 1, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was just preparing in case something like this happened.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
by c_style on Sep 1, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The big question
Can Orton throw a screen pass with an owie on his finger. If they run the same offense they did last week he could throw every pass underhand and be just fine. Unless they decide to unleash the offense a finger injury is irrelevant.
by AKfan on Sep 1, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the pointer finger on his throwing hand.
I’m was never a QB coach, but I believe that the middle finger is key to sprial, while the pointer and thumb are key to grip and velocity.
Anyone?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This doesn't sound good
That blood on Orton’s finger, by the way, was the result of an open dislocation (meaning it penetrated the skin) of his right knuckle. I felt pain just typing that.
— from the DP Mailbag
And I felt pain just reading that.
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Sep 1, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me while
I go vomit.
( I would’ve never “cut it” in med school )
by tunga77 on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks and rec'd NYC
does anyone know if NE has released that QB yet? I cant remember his name
live and die blue and orange
by jerry251 on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Kevin O'Connell
Yeah, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Denver pick him up if Orton is out longer than 2 weeks. Since McD is familiar with him. He’s young and has some talent but looked bad in camp.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kansas City Might Want O'Connell, Too
If the Chiefs want O’Connell, they will be able to nab him first because they have a higher waiver spot based on a worse 2008 record.
by RSH089 on Sep 1, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This does make sense, and it’s been reported as a good probability. But if KC does nab O’Connell then they’ll have to let someone else go. Keep in mind, they’ve got Cassel, Thigpen, Croyle and Gutierrez already. I’m guessing that if the Chefs were to release any of those backups (no chance with Thigpen), the Broncos would similarly be interested with the current situation…
by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
can anyone explain to me why chiefs fans are so quick to dump thigpen? everyone seems to hate the guy, but it thought he played well enough last season
by lolcopter on Sep 1, 2009 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a good Friend
Who is a big Chiefs fan and he likes Thigpen, doesn’t like the Cassel trade, and thinks their offensive line is going to get somebody killed.
So it isn’t universal at least.
Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
by Kfustud on Sep 1, 2009 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reilly has written for SI for many years. The guy has sources and loads of credibility based on years of journalistic excellence. The MSM is constantly berated here at MHR. These are folks that have criticized the Broncos and McDaniels over the past few months that have meant with disgust from MHR. Cris Collinsworth, Peter King, Don Banks, Krieger, Clayton, Al Michaels, Mark Scheleruth, Dukes, Paige, Mayock, Casserly, Gruden, Scott Wright , the Seattle announcers, the San Fran announcers, Pat Kirwan, George, Warren Sapp, Rodney Harrison, John Lynch, Wilcox, etc. The second Lombardi knocks Denver, he’ll get added to the long list above.
Mark me down as one that thinks the Broncos are not always the good guy victim of the MSMās attacks. Some of the attacks are haphazard (Dukes, Clayton and Scheleruth come to mind), but some are spot on (Krieger, Casserly, George, Collinsworth come to mind).
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Sep 1, 2009 9:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think Collinsworth was that bad
or off (though he gpt a big much with some gushy Cutler love later in the game); but his criticisms earlier seemed valid and he praised how good their line is, and was very effusive about Eddie Royal (“I just love this kid”) and a few other guys. I think people were prepared for him to be obnoxious about Denver so had tunnel vision with his comments. Probably true about some of the other guys above, that just because someone expresses concern or criticizes Denver we shouldn’t lump them in with the true idiots in the MSM like Dukes. That said I wouldn’t say that Krieger or Schlereth have been right or fair 100% of the time in their Broncos comments either. So people need to be fair and have a longer fuse when judging each person in the MSM but should also be allowed to express reservations about what they right.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"got a bit much"
that should read… damn lack of editing button…
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And "what they write"
Grumble… it’s gonna be a long day… need coffee..
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that Cutler has repeatedly admitted he didn't return the call.
I’m not going to waste my time filing in the blanks on that one again.
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 1, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone has a crush on Jay
And I agree with them. It gets annoying that every analyst in the league feels the same way, and I think that’s why posters here get so frustrated. For the record (and I know many will disagree) Al Michaels and Collinsworth are the best announcers on TV. I thought they did a great job on Sunday, and the biting criticism of Rodney Harrison was right on— he knows McDaniels well enough to warrant consideration of his opinions.
by legendarywalton on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, McG, I’m kind of insulted by your comment. I don’t think it’s fair to throw a blanket statement out that MHR “berates” the MSM or reacts “with disgust” to criticism. Not that I (or any other single staff member) represent MHR on our own (especially since we all have our own independent opinions), but you’re being unfair when you use such generalizations.
You are not the only member of MHR who can handle reading/hearing criticism of the Broncos.
by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 1, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not much of a stretch to say the MSM gets bashed with frequency at MHR. It’s a pretty common theme. If you think that is a blanket statement, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Some of the MSM bashing is justified, but some is not. Again, IMO ā MSM views are too quickly dismissed by several posters at MHR. Collinsworth and Harrison were rather vocal and direct in their criticism of the Broncos for trading Cutler and such criticism was meant with a very harsh reaction by several at MHR that either dismissed it as rubbish or attacked the credibility of the messenger.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Sep 1, 2009 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the MSM sometimes catches unnecessary heat at MHR, at times. It could be I’m parsing your words, I’m not sure.
There are some folks here who want nothing but to read sunny columns/articles about our team, and those folks are just as far from reality as those who prefer to wallow in negativity and misery.
by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 1, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said I was the only MHR member that can handle reading/hearing criticism of the Broncos, but I will certainly back the MSM point of view when I think their views are being unfairly dismissed at MHR.
People are dismissing Reilly today. Well, I have no problem pointing out that Reilly has better access to "sources" than anyone at MHR, the DP or our usual bloggers. The guy has been a staple at SI for years. There is a reason for that. I feel the same way about guys like Peter King, Collinsworth, Clayton, Don Banks, Al Michaels, even Paige to a lesser extent. These men have risen to where they are today based a long line of accomplishments and past excellence.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
by McGeorge on Sep 1, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
suggestion
I think this is an excellent point. Awhile ago, I had in the back of my mind the challenge of trying to compose a post defending the MSM, but alas my schedule hasn’t really given me the time. Would anyone be willing to consider putting together a post on that topic? Not necessarily as relates to McJaygate, but more of a debunking of misconceptions about the MSM. Something to fuel some honest discussion about the challenges of modern punditry as contrasts with the blogosphere.
Just a suggestion. I think it could be a good time.
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Sep 1, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A problem with a lot of writers...
…is that they copy others material without researching for themselves. An example is when those same writers change their stories (probably without malice). Example (from C-Style above)…
I remember at the time when this all went down when Cutlerās camp denied the attempts of Bowlen & McD trying to call him. The immediate statement released from The Broncos was "we have the phone records". Cook & Cutler shut right up on this topic after Bowlen said that.
I recall that as well.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how could I forget Predom..Orange's comment?
The problem is that Cutler has repeatedly admitted he didn’t return the call.
Also correct.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
but...
has anyone actually seen those records? That would DEFINITELY put the issue to bed…
by Merlin Scott on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Orton will be okay for the opener just need to get that finger scabbed up
I recall Kobe winning a title with a dislocated finger so I think Orton will be okay as long as he doesnt have any ligament damage and no surgery is required
by Hoopforia on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Over the years, I dealt with dislocated fingers fairly often
I’ve seen them be reduced, treated and be adequate in a couple of weeks on several occasions. Good luck to him
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Sep 1, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve had a broken pinky and a dislocated pinky knuckle on opposite hands at the same time.
Give me the break over a dislocation any day. I know it sounds backwards, but the dislocation was swollen and needed immobilization much longer. And my broken pinky side came back to use much faster.
This is disheartening news.
by dr.mort on Sep 1, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, simple fractures can be easier
I had several in the hand – didn’t even miss work. My only real concern is which finger it is – hard for a QB to heal during the season. No pun intended – cross your fingers for him
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we're hearing Jay may have returned Bowlen's calls?
For pity’s sake . . . if this is true, then maybe I don’t blame Jay so much for wanting out . . .
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
by AZDynamics on Sep 1, 2009 11:14 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
more like
this is the return of the “unnamed source”. All I expect to see from this latest round of non-info on the Cutler situation (to go with all the non-info and non-sources that surfaced during its original incarnation) is an orgy of bias-confirmation, both ways. I read the Reilly blurb (I don’t think Reilly would even lay claim to this piece as being a researched piece of journalism, more just something he felt was important to throw out there, but not important enough to do a longer piece on that explored all the angles and just what it might mean).
And as long as we are entertaining non-info, I’ll just state for the record that I think one of the unnamed sources is, once again, Bus Cook. Its never too late for an image rehabilitation campaign, and prior to contract negotiations is a particularly fine time….
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 1, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bravo.
After all, how many folks were gathered around the phone when Cutler called back?
Cutler himself denies calling back, so he isn’t the source. Bus Cook is likely. Whom else? lol
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
jamie dukes was in town that day,
I’m sure he would verify the phone call for….
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Sep 1, 2009 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
injury reports
can anyone recite the injury report rules of the nfl. i know orton/kuper injury reports were vague. though i’m not involved in gambling on games or fantasy football leagues, do the teams have to list specific injury or just the status of the player for that week’s game.
by golfdoc on Sep 1, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Memory Loss
If true, I’m a LOT more worried about the team than I already was…
by Merlin Scott on Sep 1, 2009 12:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
OUCH!
Anyone hear what Stink said on NFL Live today? NO TALENT!?! WTF?!
by Merlin Scott on Sep 1, 2009 2:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is Stink?
Is that Schlereth?
I wouldn’t expect him to be a homer for his former team, and he’s free to be critical, but saying they “have no talent” if that’s what he said is just… sorry if this offends but… retarded. Gotta do better than that, Schlereth. But then again, NFL Live has become sort of like ESPN’s baseball tonight, more bombast than insightful analysis. Just as I switched over to the MLBNetwork for better commentary, I usually watch the NFL Network, despite the couple of people there I can’t stand they have generally more insight and less of the football version of John Kruk.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigger OUCH!
Open dislocation? That sure doesn’t sound good…
by Merlin Scott on Sep 1, 2009 2:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
MSM
My problem with the media lately is just the “piling on” that is going on w/regard to the Broncos. It feels like the vultures are circling the body and the season aint even begun yet. Collinsworth was particularly bad and laid all of the blame on McDaniels and none on Cutler. In fact, they gave Cutler the Farve treatment and sucked his you-know-what all night during the broadcast. Honestly if I had wanted to see that I’d have rented some porn. Paige has become so predisposed to negativity on the Broncos he writes his articles even before the game is played, and then adds in a few bad plays later to make it look current. He can’t write without mentioning Cutler and Shannahan repeatedly. I don’t need a sunny article, but come on enough already! And Schlereth, sheesh!
by BuddyHollysPilot on Sep 1, 2009 11:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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