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If I were the head coach...


This is just going to be a quick fanpost, so don't worry about having to read a novel. I've just been a little frustrated about a few things I've seen recently, and I thought I'd share my opinion.

Star-divide

 

First of all, I don't know the first thing about coaching. Let's get this out of the way right off. I love football, I watch a LOT of it, and I read MHR religiously. I've never coached though, so I'll have to defer to those here who actually DO have coaching experience when it comes to this article. Feel free to read, and critique below if you think I'm wrong.

However, even with my limited knowledge, I think I have a pretty good idea as to why our team has looked a little lost this preseason, and the more I think about it, it makes sense. If I were the head coach (which I'm not) and I were VERY smart (not likely) I would definitely spend more time making my team practice plays that they were BAD at.

If I were a head coach, and my team had showed through training camp that they struggled to execute a bubble screen play, and I knew that this was going to be an integral part of my offense, then what would I do? I would over-emphasize that play in the preseason, to be SURE they got the hang of it and learned how to execute it.

If I were a head coach, and my team showed me during training camp that they excelled when asked to execute our Zone Blocking run game, and my running backs had NO problems hitting the holes, then what would I do? I'd move on and emphasize the passing game in in the preseason, to give them more practice.

If I saw that my mid to deep passing game was adequate, and my quarterback was reasonable accurate at that range, then I would be SURE to call only short pass plays during the preseason, to be sure he learned how to execute those plays.

Essentially, I would want to find EVERYTHING that my team was bad at, and force them to practice it again and again and again. Preseason is only extended practice, after all. I would want my quarterback to know those short crossing routes and bubble screens so well that he could throw them in his sleep. I would want my receivers to know EXACTLY where to square off those routes so well that they'd be sleepwalking buttonhooks in their bedrooms at night.

So without beating a dead horse, I couldn't seem to make sense of our playcalling this preseason, until I started to think about it as extended practice, where the score doesn't count. Once I thought about it THAT way, it all made sense.

Once you've shown your coach you have an area that needs improving, what's he going to tell you to do? Run the play again. And again. And again. I think it COULD be a reason our offense has looked a little off balance this preseason; they're being asked to do the things that they're not particularly good at NOW, so they'll be better at it once the season starts.

Once the regular season starts, I think (a) the extra practice in live game situations will pay off in the form of better execution, and (b) they'll be asked to play more to their strengths. We'll see; I can't WAIT for Cincinatti so we can quit with all this hypothetical posturing.

GO BRONCOS!!!

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I feel you

This thought has crossed my mind throughout the preseason. Especially when it comes to our downfield passing game. I find it too hard to believe that our downfield passing game is so bad that we don’t even have the confidence to try any. Correct me if I’m wrong but I remember the bears attacking downfield often last year with some good success early in the season. I have always liked Orton so to me you are perfectly on track.

by chipbeavpie on Sep 1, 2009 11:27 AM MDT reply actions  

I actually

think I agree. I had not put it into such black and white as that but….it really does make sense (not a coach)

Also….who are our deep recievers? Gaffney and Marshall. Royal on a slant maybe, but too short to be a HUGE jump up and fight for it WR. (but good enough for me to call him our #1)

That would explain why we have stuck with the short passes. Maybe he’s hitting everyone acurately on the long passes at practice, and beating out Baily and company regularly…..that would mean that we should focus on whats more difficult.

We already have Royal who can break away from just about anyone. So I think your Hypothesis is astute.

Rec’d

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions  

I hope it's astute

’cause it would SUCK if this is all we see from the offense this year!

But I really believe we’re going to see a MUCH more balanced attack, with the long ball and a LOT more running.

Did anybody else notice that when Brandstater came in, our objective changed? Since we’re not to worried about getting him up to speed on the passing game (probably won’t see much game time) we started running the ball almost exclusively. Chicago KNEW we were going to run the ball every play, and we still drove the length of the field and scored. I think our running game is going to be effective, and that drive might have been a small harbinger of our ability to impose our will on the opposition.

by Bronco Nut on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well

Why work a system that doesn’t need much fixing unless you no longer have a reason to work it?

Again I agree, why run when you need to fix your throwing……when you no longer have a reason to focus on throwing, why not just run?

This has given me even more kool-aid vision, and I SO hope this is a fairly acurate assesment as well.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Does this mean that...

with Brandstater starting against Arizona we’re going to see a legitamite (SP?) gameplan instead of practice?

Im sorry, that just sounded retarded as I finished typing it. Of course we won’t! Stick to the fundamentals, and a practice fundamental is making the bad things good. Shoot, it’s the PHILOSOPHY.

I don’t know about you guys but i’d love to see a super boring and crappy pre-season if it meant we’d be watching a GREAT regular (and POST) season.

In It to Win It

It's Orange Crush Time

by USMCWall on Sep 2, 2009 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

"as in football so in life"

by asinsoin on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think it’s a tiny bit oversimplified, but a great point. The thing that I think is missing from your argument is that they are not only running plays that need practice at game speed, but practicing situations at that same game speed. I’d prefer to hash out things like throwing from the goal line with a shortened field now when it doesn’t count than in week 5 when we need a score to win or tie the game and there’s some circumstance keeping us from running the ball. If I’m coach, I’d also like to evaluate how my players handle the pressure of needing to score that TD with a catch, how my receivers run their routes and go up for the ball, how my QB handles finding a way to get it into the EZ, etc.

I won’t really start evaluating the effectiveness of the offense until about Cleveland, maybe at halftime. Especially if Orton has to sit for the opener and we’re left with Martin or Brandstater.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 1, 2009 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah

If I were a little more schooled on the intricacies of football, I’d probably be able to expound a little more on this point. I’m admittedly uneducated though on coaching.

I just see a team that’s doing the same thing over and over again, and it’s embarassingly ineffective. If it’s that obvious to us, then it must be obvious to the head coach. The best explanation I can come up with is to go back to my high school football practices, when the offense was trying to learn our plays. When we sucked at a play, we didn’t move on to something we did better. We did it again, and again, and again. Once the season started, we were better for it.

When we scrimmaged in games that didn’t count, we did the same thing. We didn’t play to win; we played to learn.

by Bronco Nut on Sep 1, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

"DO IT AGAIN!"

I have a feeling they hear that a bit in practice. :)

by BroncosBassist on Sep 1, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Additionally for all of those who keep saying they haven’t seen anything revolutionary or exciting or that say the offense isn’t progressing fast enough consider this. By all accounts the offense that JM is installing is one of if not the most complex system in the NFL. If it were possible to completely install it in one offseason in all likelihood most teams would already be running it. It seems, as Bronco Nut has pointed out, that it is a building block process that requires each component level to be efficiently mastered before moving to the next sequence. I’m looking for steady progress early in the season and then hopefully at some point before the season is over for the players to begin to execute without hesitation.

"as in football so in life"

by asinsoin on Sep 1, 2009 12:04 PM MDT reply actions  

well said

and if you watch Cassel’s progress last season, it would seem to parallel what we see here.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Sep 1, 2009 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

And Cassel had already had time in the system to learn

He wasn’t a rookie last year, right? I’d almost like to see replays of the Pats’ preseason games from ’08.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 1, 2009 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Duh,

just looked it up. 2008 was his fourth year as a Patriot. We’ve gotta give Orton a break here.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 1, 2009 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good point

I sure as heck hope that this is the case. I’m starting to worry a bit after the 3rd game. It is just the preseason though…nothing matters until Cincy

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Sep 1, 2009 12:16 PM MDT reply actions  

I bet the Pats fans were worried in 2007

when they went 0-4 in the preseason. Was Brady a fluke? Pwhahaha.

Just remember your last sentence Sadaraine. Nothing matters until Cincy.

In fact I bet McDaniels most used phrase is “Just trying to get ready for the regular season.” That or: “I’m not going to get into that.” Lol.

In It to Win It

It's Orange Crush Time

by USMCWall on Sep 2, 2009 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should be a coach.

You demonstrate much more insight and knowledge than the doom & gloom crowd who are pigeonholing the 09 Broncos as a basket case based on what they have seen this preseason. WYSIWYG does not apply here. What you will get in the opening game against Cincy will be what you haven’t seen in the preseason. A dominant rushing attack that will open up deep play action.

"He can take his'n n beat your'n, or he can take your'n n beat his'n." Florida A&M Coach Jake Gaither on Alabama Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant.

by turnerstoe on Sep 1, 2009 12:20 PM MDT reply actions  

I sure hope this is the case

It does make sense, but at what point do you, as a HC, say ok, we’ve practiced the short game enough? Lets work on medium range passes. I would think it would be after the first two games, because at some point, you do have to practice the other stuff.

I’m still optimistic about the team, I think they are on the right track, but my enthusiasm has been severely dulled by our performance so far. I sure hope McD is as smart as most people here think he is.

This is our team, let's have fun with it! - dmitchell624

by solace on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 PM MDT reply actions  

As a coach.................

I totally agree, we work to turn any weakness into a strength during our practices. We still throw in the good stuff to stay sharp but we work way more on what we are poor at than what we are good at. It’s a fine line because you don’t want to lose the sharpness in what you do well but you have to emphasize weaknesses and correct them to get better as a unti.

We gotta get nastier on D!!!!!!!!!

by Broncofan on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 PM MDT reply actions  

unit.

We gotta get nastier on D!!!!!!!!!

by Broncofan on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cool to hear from a coach

I keep saying to myself, “Self, we’re not playing to win, we’re playing to learn.”

by Bronco Nut on Sep 1, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

ROFL

you address yourself when talking to yourself? Do you also answer? I hear its not crazy until you answer.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Out loud, anyway...

Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."

by BroncTastic on Sep 1, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Talking to myself

I don’t think talking to myself makes me crazy. Heck, sometimes I even argue with myself. It’s when I lose those arguments ttat I start to worry.

by DCbroncfan on Sep 1, 2009 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

no no no

it’s only crazy if you can’t get yourself to talk to you. LOL

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Sep 1, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or Perhaps its

When you actually start to brawl with yourself during those arguments? I sure I know I could kick my ass….I would never start a fight with that guy.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

immediate apology on the language

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ed Norton actually did beat himself up

on Fight Club.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 2, 2009 7:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

well...

usually it’s more like yelling than talking…I can REALLY frustrate myself! lol

by Bronco Nut on Sep 1, 2009 1:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don't have to be a coach to have a good opinion.

Your opinion is a good one. It also seems to be what we are doing. Instead of running every play in the book, and instead of focusing on winning games, we are running the same plays over and again to get them down. Hence, a lot of short passes, and a lot of runs to the edges.

I think we’ll see more runs during the regular season, and a larger variety of passes (not just screens and quick curls).

Good thinking, and rec’d!

(By the way, there are plenty of children’s leagues that could use a coach or an assistent. You should check them out).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2009 12:52 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Excellent post rec'd

After looking at what the patriots did last preseason I came to the same conclusion . They really do work on what they dont do well in the preseason which is why they can always absorb the new guys into their team so easily .

This was from the Pats coach after there last preseason game last year when they went 0-4. The last thing you want to be are preseason champs .

“When the regular season starts, it’s a whole new ballgame,” Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. “We know that. Is it nice to win the games? Yeah, but it doesn’t mean anything. We’ve had good records in preseason, we’ve had bad records in preseason. What counts is how you play in the regular season.”

by Hoopforia on Sep 1, 2009 12:58 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Bronco Nut and Broncofan...

Bronco Nut- You sir have expressed exactly what I have been thinking all through the preseason. This seemed exemplified to me during the game on Sunday when Brandstater stepped in.

Broncofan- Do you think that because the practices are now clossed that those plays are what is being focused on during that time, so that the players don’t get rusty?

P.S.- Rec’d

I became inasne, with long intervals of horrible sanity- Edgar Allen Poe

by Jack Skellington on Sep 1, 2009 1:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Don't give your hand away....

I also think that McDaniels is not going to give away his offensive and defensive strategies before the season starts. Every game that has been played so far is going to be watched closely by Cincy so that they can prepare. If you lay down all your cards before the game… you are going to give your opponent an advantage that you could have had yourself.

I am glad that the offense has been kind of “off-balance” and somewhat bland. Once we get into game mode, that is the time to open the playbook and play for keeps.

by RevrendBronco on Sep 1, 2009 1:10 PM MDT reply actions  

rec'd

Thanks for putting into words and making sense of what I thought I was seeing.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions  

While I respect your point..

I think that would allow the strengths of the team to become rusty, and would bring the things we are bad at up to an average level.

At that point, we would officially have no strengths.

by Mhantra on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions  

not if they are practicing the strengths in real practice 5 times a week. If you practice EVERYTHING behind closed doors enough, you can show the vanilla and weak aspects without losing your sharpness

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

that is a danger of the approach

but since the media and fans aren’t allowed in practices now, it’s hard to tell what they’re working on at those times.

So it could be as many have speculated, the other stuff is all looking good in practice, while the stuff we’re seeing is the stuff that wasn’t working.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

both of you make sense (you and DenBronx, above)

I suppose another fear of mine is that the positive momentum might be lost, as well. I feel that humans do need to feel like things are going well, things are working, in order to feel optimum, phychologically.

by Mhantra on Sep 1, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

which might lend more confidence in nailing the things that aren’t as good, later.

by Mhantra on Sep 1, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

you hit the nail on the head
humans [fans] do need to feel like things are going well, things are working

brackets are my addition

We want to feel that things are working — hence the overwhelming optimism that often appears here (personally I think things are working, we just don’t understand the plan.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Sep 1, 2009 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I was trying to get at in my post above. If I were the coach that may well be how I would do things. It’s a valid point that if we ignore the strengths they may become rusty (brought down to an average level?). But if those places we are weak were brought up to that average level, we may not have any spectacular strengths, but we would also not have any huge weaknesses.

I became inasne, with long intervals of horrible sanity- Edgar Allen Poe

by Jack Skellington on Sep 1, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, no weaknesses either.

And that can certainly be a boon to counteract the rust.

Also, the more I think about it, perspective has set in. These poor guys are still incredibly early in their development of being a team in a new system. I suppose there will be plenty of time to work on both the strengths and weaknesses.

If they can be even 3-4 after week 7, but have come to the point of maturation as a team, perhaps they can put together a run that is more likely after 10 weeks of practice, instead of after only 3 weeks.

by Mhantra on Sep 1, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think another piece of the puzzle is the complexity of

running the screens as it applies to the whole team not just the receivers, backfield or QB. There is quite alot going on with the O line on those plays which changes assignments. Downfield passing is slightly more straight forward as is some of the running plays.

by bchiper on Sep 1, 2009 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I had not thought of it in that way. That makes sense to me

by papasteven on Sep 1, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

It just hit me that this is exactly what happened last season. We had a major strength in terms of yardage, QB play, O-Line etc., but a huge weakness in terms of defence.
I will admit that perhaps out offence is (if only slightly) weaker with the loss of Cutler. But our defence is vastly imporved over last season. I think that those two would balance each other out and make the team better overall.

I became inasne, with long intervals of horrible sanity- Edgar Allen Poe

by Jack Skellington on Sep 1, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for sure

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno=ROY

by stedtfeld on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Exactly!

And the added bonus is that the plays are being run at game speed.

by dbachilles on Sep 1, 2009 1:22 PM MDT reply actions  

great stuff

I think you are onto something about the way McD approaches preseason….at least I hope you are. We really won’t know until after Cincy. I don’t like how that approach does not take confidence into account. I’m a little worried that while breaking the team down (focusing on areas of struggle), he is failing to build up a NEW team that needs confidence going forward as much as anything. This could easily be a mistake as I agree with your take and McD’s focus on the problem approach, but think for a NEW team (ie. not NE or other perennial power) it may have some disadvantages…..we’ll see. If we handle Cincy, you’re all over it….thx

by BideshiBronco on Sep 1, 2009 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice post....

I apply this concept in practicing my bass. I don’t work on the easy progressions very often, but I do repeat the complex ones until it becomes almost second nature. Only then do I move on.

by bchiper on Sep 1, 2009 1:49 PM MDT reply actions  

agreed

I had that same feeling…Obviously they are having a hard time executing the wr screen they only ran it 10 times sunday night..lmao

by rockymtnthunder on Sep 1, 2009 2:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Confirming the Kool Aid

Orton’s comment after his beautiful left handed prayer. “I wonder how many times in the regular season are we going to throw 4 times from inside the 5” "% = I’m way too old to remember the exact quote and you know what I mean anyway.

by HippoJohn on Sep 1, 2009 2:58 PM MDT reply actions  

Repeition and timing

The most important aspect of installing this offense may be the timing patterns. They require a rhythm, excellent communication between the QB and receivers and a lot of practice. It’s working. Orton has the 4th highest completion percentage in the league right now. That’s one of the most important things that we can develop.

I understand your frustration. If this is all we see in the regular season (which is very unlikely), I’d be frustrated too. But this is preseason – a chance to develop the base skills, under game conditions, which will be used for more complex routes, plays and approaches during the season. Don’t fret. This is pretty normal stuff.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 1, 2009 3:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Orton has the 4th highest completion percentage in the league right now.

Wow. I didn’t realize that. I wonder if this makes any difference to those who don’t like Orton as our QB?

by BroncosBassist on Sep 1, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nah

He’s also leading the league with 4 interceptions. People will always latch onto the negatives. For me, I think the 4th highest completion percentage is very important.

by Endzone on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sure it is

Hey, he had a few INTs in the first game of the new offensive system. No big deal. I really like that he’s improved every game. There will be problems – we are making huge changes – but that’s not a concern to me. Team building interests me on a lot of levels, so I’m getting a great experience just out of seeing how someone goes about it. The organizational aspect, how practices are run, the coaches that were brought on, what personnel are added are all fascinating to me. Since I know that they know a lot more than I do, I’m less interested in criticizing than I am in trying to see the ‘why’ of it all. There’s nothing wrong with however folks prefer to experience this process, but I just thought I’d add my own. Be well, EZ and BB

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 1, 2009 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’m with you bb…

This is by far the most fun I’ve had following the Broncos in the offseason, ever. It has been great fun to watch what the new regime has done. Starting with putting together what I think is an impressive coaching staff, building depth through free-agency, and then through the draft, and then seeing them work through the preseason… I’m loving it.

by aLuffabo on Sep 1, 2009 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Live Long And Prosper

I agree. The INT’s are no big deal right now. It’s much more important to me to see that his completion percentage is extremely high and try to understand the why of all this.

by Endzone on Sep 1, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Since I know that they know a lot more than I do . . ."

Exactly. Instead of seeing something that doesn’t make sense and assuming the coach is an idiot, it makes more sense to wonder why a smart, even brilliant coach would do it and learn something in the process. Trying to understand why he’s done some of the things he’s done, without being so arrogant as to assume I know better than he does, has been an extraordinarily educational experience.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 2, 2009 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice Thoughts

I haven’t watched a ton of NE games the past few years, but I have watched quite a few due to the national exposure resulting from all its success over the past few years. It seems to me that the short passes and screens are the foundation of the offense. Couple that with the fact that the short passing game and screens were not even close to the foundation of Shanny’s offense, and one can see why this offense comprised largely of Shanny-holdovers needs a lot of practice running these plays. After you pointed it out, it really makes sense.

If the offense can execute these plays with extreme efficiency in the regular season, the big plays in the running and passing games will come. Maybe that’s why we haven’t seen many big plays in the passing game from our first team? They are on the bench at the time when all of the setup work pays off.

All this nonsense about judging the offense already is absurd. Shanny used to say a QB isn’t comfortable until he’s in his third year in his system. We’re not even giving the current crew three preseason games.

by ButteBronco on Sep 1, 2009 3:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Thankyou

Rec’d of course

You as as been stated were able to put into word what I was thinking and had problem putting into words

by papasteven on Sep 1, 2009 3:52 PM MDT reply actions  

I think you're right on.

And someone mentioned above that it definitely helps players morale when they get a win—-especially after 3 losses. I think Tom B was airing it out a) everything in the system is new to him, b) he’s had very little in game situational practice, and c) McD probably saw things in his long game that he didn’t like

I know a lot of people are pulling for Tom B to start, but he’s as green as it gets right now, he will have his day though.

As for the rest of your points, I couldn’t agree more. In high school, in both band AND football practices, we worked 80% on the problem areas and by early to mid-season, we had them down almost flawlessly.

Our Achilles heel in high school was always the short screens to the outside. As a cornerback, it was highly my responsibility to make sure these plays never got significant yards, and I had a hard time getting used to it at first because I couldn’t cover my man AND watch out for the running back going into the flat. Eventually I learned how to watch the QB’s eyes, and anticipate where he’s going with the ball. Once we all got it down in the secondary, it became a strength of ours by the 4th week or so.

"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu

by Joe Medina on Sep 1, 2009 5:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice post.

Throwing in a corollary here to back up your thoughts… I think we’re pretty safe in looking at how the offensive line has been used thus far in pre-season as evidence that this is not what our offense is going to look like when the regular season rolls around.

Just look at all the times Clady has been asked to sprint out to the flats and block for Royal or whoever is out there. I feel like I’ve seen Clady whiff on trying to block a DB or LB as they sidestep him and that mountain of a man rolls around about 15 times so far. Do we really think McD is dumb enough to think that is the strength of Clady and our line? I think not. It just lends more credence to our little theory here, McD is calling the plays our boys aren’t used to and aren’t yet good at during this preseason, so we’re better at them later. McD knows our line is a brick wall in pass coverage, and can open lanes in the running game as well, no need to run those plays to death up to this point.

by aLuffabo on Sep 1, 2009 6:12 PM MDT reply actions  

If This is True

If your post is true then why wouldn’t the Broncos practice the plays they are poor at on first and second down only? Then on third down execute a play they are good at to get a first down. Then repeat the above sequence. They would get a lot more practice at the things they are bad at and the things they are good at.

by RenoPaul on Sep 1, 2009 9:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Situation

RP its because anyone can practice a play they are bad at on 1st and 2nd….there is very little pressure to get it right then, cuz in the reg season you would just change it up next play. But now they get to see the play in every possible situation.

1.they ran for short one down and inc a pass another. throw a screen

2.They ran 1st and 2nd for short, throw a screen

3.They passed inc or short 1st and second, throw a screen.

And on top of that, running it on every type of down shows the team how the defense reacts differently depending on Yards needed, the down, field position, last type of play run etc…… This is all speculation but it makes so much sense.

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by DenBronx on Sep 2, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I dont understand. Can someone explain.

I cannot follow what you are saying.
If the Broncos actually have the ability to get a first down at will (as suggested),
then why not get the first down on 3rd down so that you can run another series of plays?
If the whole idea is to practice, why accept 3 and out? That stops the practice

by RenoPaul on Sep 2, 2009 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Defense

You gotta give the Defense guys at least SOME time on the field! (wink)

by Endzone on Sep 2, 2009 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

One of the Greatest Posts I have ever read.

No offense to Broncobear or Hoosier.

Amazing. We need to create another flag for posts like this:
“I Command You to Read This”
And don’t you dare abbreviate it!

In It to Win It

It's Orange Crush Time

by USMCWall on Sep 2, 2009 12:15 AM MDT reply actions  

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