Horse Tracks 9/12/09 - Shannon Sharpe gets involved in guiding Brandon Marshall

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 12, 2009 7:43 AM MDT in Horse Tracks

Mornin' MHR Friends! To all my fellow New Yorkers, please shoot me an email at nycbroncosfan@gmail.com if you're interested in meeting up for tomorrow's (and future) games. I know this is last minute, but I had been hoping to get NFL Sunday Ticket Online and it hasn't worked out. I watched most Broncos games last year at Sidebar on 15th and Irving; not sure if that will be the spot again this year. But please email me and hopefully we can put something together!

AP - Brandon Marshall Keeps Lips Sealed On Suspension
Shannon Sharpe got on a three-way call with Rod Smith and BMarsh and gave the young receiver a stern talking to. Big Play Shay says, "Moving forward, I don't think the Broncos are going to have any problems with Brandon Marshall." Personally, I'm thrilled these legends still care enough about the Broncos to help out, even in the absence of Mike Shanahan.

DP - Orton to start Broncos' opener - Mike Klis

DPP - Same as it ever was for Orton - Mike Klis
According to Klis, Kyle Orton hasn't seemed to have lost any velocity or sharpness from his throws during practice this week.

DPP - All quiet on B-Marsh front - Jeff Legwold
Josh Barrett and Le Kevin Smith are out for Sunday's game, while Russ Hochstein is expected to start in place of Chris Kuper.

DB - A Few Minutes With Josh McDaniels - Broncos TV

DB - Week 1: McDaniels - Broncos TV

DB - Exciting In Its Own Right - Chris Gentilviso

DB - Embodying the Exception - Zach Eisendrath
Jarvis Moss sounds refreshed and renewed by the switch in defensive scheme. Hopefully it shows through on the field...

DPP - Q&A: Rate the rookies - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Analysis: Adjustments will be made - Jeff Legwold

LTC - Defense key to Broncos’ success - Brian Howell

LTC - Moreno eager to debut - Brian Howell

CSG - Indications are Orton will start for Broncos - Frank Schwab

CSG - For McDaniels, this is not any given Sunday - Frank Schwab

DPP - Broncos' 50th season: Long way to reach glory - Jim Armstrong
Armstrong looks back at the Broncos' early days and offers his all-time team.

DP - Bates doesn't dwell on past - John Henderson

MV - The Denver Broncos' Ed McCaffrey, 9/11 and a New York Minute

Bengals News

CE - Henry set to play against Denver - Joe Reedy

CE - No blackout for Bengals - Joe Reedy

NYT - Brothers on the Bengals - The Palmers are the ‘Other’ Quarterbacks - Karen Crouse

AFC West News

ESPN - Adam Schefter: Richard Seymour expected to arrive in Oakland on Saturday, sources say
Sure, feel bad for Seymour. But Belichick being disloyal? Come on. The guy knows what he's doing. If a player is about to go over the hill (or cost too much to retain), then by all means trade him for a valuable draft pick. That's exactly what Shanny DIDN'T do with Reggie Hayward, Bert Berry and Trevor Pryce. You can't afford to keep everyone, so trade them when you can get value; don't just let them walk during free agency. I HOPE McD is willing/able to make similar choices in future. Foresight is a much better quality than sentimentality when it comes to winning.

SDUT - DA won't file charges against Merriman

NFL - Chiefs’ Cassel feels good, but will be a game-time call

KCS - Chiefs notebook | Rookie Jackson says he’s made progress - Kent Babb

KCS - Offensive line will be put to the test against Ravens - Adam Teicher

NFL News

NFL - Federal appeals court rules NFL can’t immediately suspend Williamses

NFL - Saints' Brown to miss several weeks after second surgery

NFL - Colts safety Sanders out vs. Jags; assistant Moore to return to sidelines

NFL - Cardinals WR Boldin questionable vs. 49ers

NFL - Texans’ Schaub probable, Walter questionable vs. Jets

Y! - Sources: Tomlin, Steelers working on extension - Jason Cole

NFL Opinion

NYT - Week 1 Matchups - Mike Tanier

SI - Percy Harvin, Titans-Steelers, Carson Palmer, more NFL Week 1 - Peter King

ESPN - Final Word

SI - NFL Week 1 viewer's guide, plus NFL mailbag - Ross Tucker

CBS - Peek at the Week: Cutler-Rodgers kicks off NFC North race - Clark Judge

ESPN - 10 Spot: '09 surprise? Watch Redskins - Adam Schefter

SI - NFL ranks last in SI.com ranking of best/worst overtimes in sports - John P. Lopez

FOX - Week 1 preview: Edwards in for a wake-up call - Kevin Hench
Hench says the Broncos defense will be "awful" and thinks all they did was sign Brian Dawkins. Click here for some thorough journalism! I mean, if you think the Broncos D will be poor due to a scheme change and roster turnover, that's fine; you're entitled. But don't say they'll be "awful" because they didn't do enough...

NFP - Now it’s ‘we’ time in the NFL - Andrew Brandt
Brandt thinks the Broncos should avoid negotiating with BMarsh.

SI - Chicago Bears-Green Bay Packers is NFL game of the week - Adam Duerson

NFL - Aging star RBs ready to turn back time as season kicks off - Pat Kirwan

NFL - In stacked NFC East, Redskins are division's true wildcard - Steve Wyche

NFL - As season opens, Favre making waves on and off the field - Jason La Canfora

PFW - Rice will be busy man for Ravens - Mike Wilkening

NFP - Minus Polamalu, Steelers defense still strong - Matt Bowen

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Thanks, NYC.

"Wow."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 12, 2009 7:45 AM MDT reply actions

Good Morning NYC...Thanks again

Great news on BM…If he can’t pull it together after getting the mentorship from Rod and my boy Shannon, I doubt that he will ever get it together…Come on BM, listen to those that really care about you!

by BroncoSense72 on Sep 12, 2009 7:49 AM MDT reply actions

Thanks, NYC

Random question: Does anybody know if Denver is in the blue or in the road unis tomorrow? I seem to recall Cincy wearing white at home at times….

by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 12, 2009 7:56 AM MDT reply actions

I've been wondering that also

Mostly in regards to the weather – if it’s going to be hot and sunny, the smart thing for the Bengals to do is elect to wear their white uni’s, forcing the Broncos into the darker and hotter blue uni’s. These decisions have to be made well in advance, so I guess we’ll find out tomorrow.
Forecast for Cincinnati tomorrow is a high in the upper 70’s, partly cloudy, and humidity around 50 %.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions

Totally agree on the legends still being around to help out...

Sounds like Sharpe’s words may have sunk in, hopefully long term.

"Wow."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 12, 2009 7:56 AM MDT reply actions

I agree, though...

Sharpe has been talking down this year’s Broncos team in his role as analyst. Hope that’s not rubbing off.

by JeffG on Sep 12, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions

Yeah

He’s not as down on them as others, but he clearly thinks that cutler leaving was a big mistake. He echoed the “if you’re in a shootout, Orton won’t win many of those” which is probably true.

But Shay, how many “shootouts” in the NFL per year are there, and how many of those do you find yourself in?

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 12, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions

Remind me of the shootouts Cutler won.

The Hochuli gift doesn’t count.

by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 12, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

New Orleans is it....we lost all the others.

Buffalo, Chicago.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 12, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions

Most of the shootouts we were in were turkey shoots

and we all know who the turkeys were.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions

There some Hochuli type calls in N.O. as well

by trumanj on Sep 12, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions

I don't know about calls but,

Grammatica missed a very make-able field goal that should have beaten the Broncs that day.

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Sep 12, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions

That is my thought

Every time I hear that same statement. It seems to be the MSM senitment lately and its replace the “Orton is a noodle arm” sentiment. I think the truth is that they have absolutely no idea of hwo good Orton will be or not in THIS offense with this talent around him.

You notice that not one of them really ever noticed or repeated Orton’s statement that this is the most talented group of players he has ever been around?

Orotn may very well be prepared to wins a shoot out if he needs to and that is exactly what Cultler couldnt do. 17 opportunites in the 2 minute situation last year and all he could produce for us was 1 lousy field goal. You don’t win shoot outs if you can’t score when the pressure is on.

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Sep 12, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions

Of course that game counts!!

There are bad calls in every game. There were bad calls against us in the first half of that game! We still had to make the plays! We still had to convert the two pointer and every play (but 1) before that! Predominantly? What are the other colors?

90% of you bitter fools had NOT A FREAKING WORD TO SAY before Cut left! Run that by your shrink and let it go!

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions

Thanks to Ed Hochuli, Jay Cutler is 1-4 vs. Philip Rivers!

Yay

by lolcopter on Sep 12, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions

too bad it was just one on one

yay
team? what?

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions

The ONLY people who don't agree with that comment are right here!

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions

yeah thats more of what like to call media taglines

for when you havent really done any research of your own

There are maybe 10 games a year where both teams score over 30 points so who builds a team to win games that way when such a small amount are even played that way.

I checked and the Bears with Orton won a 48-41 shootout so I dont know what they are basing the claims off of .

I always wonder why they would mention something so small as that but not that The Bears were the second highest scoring first quarter offense in the league and that Orton had one of the highest 1st quarter QBR as well.

That tells me that Orton is well prepared and watches his film .You add that with a highly detailed game planner and offensive mind in McDaniel and I think we will do very well.

by Hoopforia on Sep 12, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

Maybe, what, 10 or 12? And how many of those, do you find yourself in?

Out of over 200 games per season, it doesn’t seem like winning shootouts is very high on the list of requirements.

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 12, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions

Agreed

One of the smartest, least emotionally charged things that’s been said all day.

by TheMastermind on Sep 12, 2009 12:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions

Good Morning NYC,

To me this represents a franchise quaterback more so than throwing the ball hard into tight coverage while maintaining a loosing record. But that’s just me.

His strengths have been managing the game, leading the huddle, overcoming adversity, and winning games. He has a career 21-12 record as a starter.

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Sep 12, 2009 8:16 AM MDT reply actions

Was intrigued by Stokley's comment

“some quarterbacks get down and take the whole offense with him.” The specific point of his comment is that Orton isn’t like that. I doubt that Peyton Manning is, either. Hmmmm. Wonder who he might have had in mind?

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 8:25 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs

I'm sure he didn't have anyone specific in mind

You know, just talking. ;)

bwahahahahaha… love it

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 12, 2009 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions

Much thanks for the input.

I wonder why Legwold made no mention of Baker in his rookie assessment. Hopefully, opposing offenses learn his name in a big way as the season progresses.

by jayrockstone on Sep 12, 2009 8:32 AM MDT reply actions

Thanks NYC

Your consistency and dedication are impressive, and your posts reall add to my morning Bronco ritual. I love the quote from McDaniels about the coaches knowing best what quality of team the Broncos will field this year. I think it is a nice retort to the MSM talking heads who really have no clue what kind of team the Broncos will be. Go Josh and go Broncos!

by OrangeandBlue27 on Sep 12, 2009 8:34 AM MDT via mobile reply actions

+1 Thanks NYC (I'd love to drop in and watch a game with you!!)

Josh certainly must think he knows best. Otherwise he will surely fail. I see things here and there that give me hope (even tho I’m not a McD fan), this is one of them. He has a clear idea of how he wants to (re)build the team and let’s no one sway him from that. Gotta appreciate the balls!

Also I’ve been loving his play calls in pre-season. I look forward to his real game calls & especially the half time adjustment that Shanny used to be known for (not so much the last few years) and NE still is.

I my mind this game could really have a huge impact on our success this year.
Huge.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions

Awesome as always NYC. Thanks a million man!

I, too, was intrigued by Stokleys comments. WHo other QB’s has he played with besides Orton, Manning, Dilfer (who he won a super bowl with) and Cutler?

by boydy2669 on Sep 12, 2009 8:41 AM MDT reply actions

Thanks NYC

A great job as always. I cant wait for tomorrow

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Sep 12, 2009 8:48 AM MDT reply actions

Thank you NYC, I tend to take Horse Tracks for granted, and this is the first time I’ve posted on one… I’m sure it takes you a fair amount of time to get the links together and organized to make it easy for us to get to everything “Broncos” in the morning, so again, we appreciate it!

Regarding Sharpe and Smith talking to BM:

Is there any other franchise where former players have such dedication to their old team? I can’t think of another instance where retired legends reach out to help the new guys… does this just point to the quality of guys we had during our 2 SB runs? Or is it the culture of the organization that Bowlen has in place coupled with the love we have for the team? Or am I wrong and this happens a lot? Anyways, I just think it’s awesome that those 2 step in and still care about what’s going on with the organization…

by aLuffabo on Sep 12, 2009 8:59 AM MDT reply actions

Hench is right

I mean, Peterson, Dumervil, Bailey, and DJ Williams are still starting on D. What, we only changed schemes and replaced 7 starters this preseason, while adding depth on the line and in the secondary?

WAY TO BE LAZY COACH!

by JeffG on Sep 12, 2009 9:06 AM MDT reply actions

We Obviously

Should have traded a 1st round pick several years from now for an all all-pro guy who will only be with us 1 year.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 12, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions

Actually

I don’t know about his injury status but he’s only 29. I’d have liked to have Seymour and if we’re still the same Broncos, he’d be resigning with us during the season… Of course he’d be aging maybe by the time we start winning….and he’d be expensive.

Maybe another Neil Smith will fall into our laps…?

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions

Thanks Nyc

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Sep 12, 2009 9:59 AM MDT reply actions

Shannon and Rod as good cop, bad cop

I can just hear that conversation! Sharpe starts, laying into Marshall and telling him he better start manning up and acting like a professional football player. Then Rod quietly encourages that Brandon has too much talent to waste on a bad attitude. Then Sharpe digs in again, telling him his behavior has been flat-out unacceptable and should just let his play speak for him. Then Rod gently suggests that when his suspension is over, the best thing to do is to work hard and earn the roster spot he has, and the rest will fall into place.

I heart our Rod and Shay!

Thanks NYC! GO BRONCOS!

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 12, 2009 10:02 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs

+1

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions

Couldn't agree more, spock

Thanks NYC — sure is good to have you back.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 12, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions

Hey! I'm not pointy-eared or green-blooded

(no disrespect to Spock of course) :-)

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 12, 2009 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions

Prejudice against pointed ears

and green blood has a long and sordid history, but I have learned to bear up under it with quiet dignity.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions

The prejudice!

It’s almost enough to get a Vulcan emotional.

"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton

by odarol on Sep 12, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions

Pleaee, no insults

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions

lol

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 12, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions

Plié?

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions

Freakin browser caching issues

my replies are all frakked up. I think my reply to you, Kitten, is somewhere else on this page., if’n you can find it. 66

broncosmontana = waldo today. Thanks Safari! ^^

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 12, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions

LOL

by TheMastermind on Sep 12, 2009 12:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions

Brand New Season!

Long time reader, Life-Long Fan, 1st Post Ever!
I predict a solid 2nd Place in the Division and a
9-7 Record, but no Playoffs. Tomorrow we will
beat Cincinnati 20-14. As much as I can’t stand
Phillip Rivers and his 8th Grade maturity level, I
believe the Chargers will (barring injury) go to
and win the Super Bowl. As for the Bears (and
no sour grapes here either), they will finish 3rd
in their Division and miss the Playoffs also. And
THAT is how the 2009 Season will end. No Kool-
Aid. Just Reality.

by Lee in Tennessee on Sep 12, 2009 10:10 AM MDT via mobile reply actions

Welcome aboard, Lee! :-)

I agree about our division. I think we do better than the experts project, but still end up 2nd in our division (certainly NOT behind oakland and kc that’s for sure). I just think the Chargers know their window is closing and are hungry for it. They look pretty good IMO.

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 12, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions

welcome

Gosh I do hope you’re wrong about the Dolts.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions

Welcome!

It is nice to have a QB who is less of a baby than Rivers!

by Velveeta on Sep 12, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions

leave it up to the cheese to slip a bash into every post

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions

tiny little mistake

I’m not the nitpicking kind, just thought I’d point out what was obviously a slip of mind:
the link
“CSG – For McDaniels, this is not any given Sunday – Josh McDaniels”
should be
“CSG – For McDaniels, this is not any given Sunday – Frank Swhab”

Nonetheless, finally have my daily broncos fix. Thanks and keep up the good work

god created earth in 7 days....on the 7th day, he took a break and created elway

by Bronkos on Sep 12, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions

Oops, thanks, and corrected! I always appreciate such catches, B!

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 12, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions

Routine excellence is easy to take for granted

Every morning, rather than going to sites like DP and DB.com, and then scouring the ether for additional scraps, I just go to Horse Tracks. Then, if I happen to have a lot of time on my hands, I might go looking for additional news, but why waste time looking for that one-tenth of one percent of halfway interesting news that you might have overlooked or that might simply not have made the cut? And there are the little, easily overlooked extras, like your value-added comments or the fact that each link opens in a new tab that I can then close without having to wait for the MHR page to reload. So much convenience for ourselves, and I can’t imagine how much time you must spend to make it happen. For all the excellent content that makes the MHR such a compelling resource, it’s this feature, like the morning newspaper on the porch, that makes MHR such an automatic part of my morning routine

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 10:19 AM MDT reply actions 4 recs

Thanks, Spock

Your kind words surely mean a lot to me. There is an OCD aspect to my personality which makes me want to collect as much information as is humanly possible; hence the thoroughness. I’m glad you (and everyone else) appreciate what I do; it’s why I keep doing it and am always trying to improve Tracks. I wish I had the time to comment on every link, but the more sources I find to add each morning, less is left for throwing my take out there (which I LOVE to share, haha). Thanks again, Spock.

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 12, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions

My own OCD tendencies

cause me to look at my comment above and think, Damn, I forgot the period at the end of my last sentence. :)

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions

Mine too!

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 10:26 AM MDT reply actions

I wish I'd written this article! It states my point of view perfectly

http://broncotalk.net/2009/09/9194/broncos-blog/hoping-theres-crow-on-the-menu-this-winter-the-bt-2009-denver-broncos-season-preview/

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 12, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions

A side not here, what is the timer on the main page counting down too?

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Sep 12, 2009 11:25 AM MDT reply actions

Maybe the guy who wrote the code

thinks he’s in the MDDDDDDT time zone!

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 12, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions

good question

now that the math isn’t so hard, I can see doesn’t quite add up ……

Maybe its the time the crow dinner is supposed to start? ; )

"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton

by odarol on Sep 12, 2009 12:49 PM MDT reply actions

ooops, meant as a response to diviesti

"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton

by odarol on Sep 12, 2009 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions