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Tales from the SunnySide: Take It!

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." -- Teddy Roosevelt at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

Those who watched Brian Dawkins exhorting the Denver Broncos on the sideline before the game got a brief glimpse into one of the best reasons that the Broncos defense on Sunday looked anything but similar to the group of lost travelers that inhabited Broncos uniforms during the last 5 games of 2008. Dawkins screamed, cajoled, entreated and demanded from them their own best efforts. He waved his arms, and slapped his hands against his own helmet in a berserker's rage. They would take the game into their own hands. Nothing else would do, no other outcome was acceptable and in his mind it was clear that he would never, ever, under any circumstances permit the team to give up. The irony of the day was rich. By never giving up, the rote formality of a second receiver following the play in case of a tipped ball was the difference between winning and losing. Sometimes, a refusal to surrender can create victory, regardless of circumstances.

Centuries ago, a general in China landed his forces by boat. Organizing his soldiers on the beachhead, he had them watch as he commanded their boats to be burnt. The message was clear - winning meant survival; defeat was tantamount to death. By the very refusal of any chance to give up, the troops entered into battle like men possessed. They fought and overwhelmed and defeated a much larger force, taking the battle and, eventually,  the war. The general understood the meaning of his decision as he stood  in front of his men. Freed from fear, unfettered by doubts, they knew themselves to be walking corpses. They became more than men, more than soldiers. They fought like demons, and accomplished what few among them had believed that they could achieve before the boats were burned. Their victory turned the tide of the war.

Star-divide

In much more mundane circumstances, the refusal to lose also kept the Broncos from opening their season on the road with a defeat at the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals. Even the faithful among the Broncos players and fans felt the cold tog of doubt at their heartstrings, but they went out and played as it they knew they could win. The outcome was, in many ways, understandable. If not this way, then they would find another. The Broncos showed us that they were anything but the team that lost out in historical fashion last December. They are a new team, with new players, coaches and a very different attitude. For this week, if no other, the Broncos are winners. Sometimes, just refusing to lose can do that for you.

I was reading the other day from Tedy Bruschi's book. For those that don't follow the game as closely, Bruschi suffered a stroke 10 days after the Patriots' 24-21 victory in the 2005 Super Bowl. One of the top linebackers in the game, Bruschi had to learn to walk again; to move, balance, and eventually run. He endured months of not being able to lift his young children, moments of crushing self-doubt and nights of bleak despair. When he first decided to attempt to return to football, his wife refused to even consider it.

"You're the husband of my children," she kept telling him coldly. "I nearly lost you once. This isn't going to happen." But after meetings with many people including two excellent neurosurgeons, it was decided that Bruschi was no more at risk than any other player on the field if he could retrain himself to decide, move and hit like he did before the incident. He would return to the field in October of the following year, racking up 10 tackles in a spell-binding performance against Buffalo. The week after, the Patriots would lose to the Indianapolis Colts, 40-21. Undaunted, Bruschi said to his wife,

"You know what, honey? I'm not going to be down about this, because every time I can walk off the field, it's a victory."

Bruschi saw life more clearly then than he ever had before.

That's something that has always set the great ones apart from the rest of those around them. Somehow, uncomplaining, they don't ever see themselves as losers. Because of that, they rarely lose. They have the mindset, the attitude, that they are going to win, going to achieve, to triumph and to endure. It's a contagious attitude. Perhaps one bad apple can spoil a barrel of them, but one truly great leader can raise a team to heights it's never dared dream of before. Refusal to lose, a willingness to do more than the other guy to win and  a deep self-belief can bear dividends that cannot be measured. On Sunday, the Broncos showed that those who do not cease striving can sometimes overcome the worst odds and the darkest hours to come away with a victory that no one else believed to be possible.

This is the defense who was constantly tarred with the brush of players who were long gone and a vaporware scheme that never materialized. They have listened to announcers, pundits and fans alike excoriating them. Ron Fields was a broken down second-teamer. The secondary was over the hill and the line was made up of never-was players. They were going to stink, flounder and to fail. Everyone knew that. Everyone but them. Somehow, they just never quite got the message.

During pregame stretches, Mario Haggan said to the camera,

"Let's go out and make a statement. Nobody believes in us. Hey, I know who's ever watching, you don't think the Broncos is back, right? Hey, check this out today and tell me what you think after this!"

Pregame, Dawkins told them that no one believed in them. No one respected them.

"Respect," he cried, "isn't given! It is earned, doggone it! And they don't respect us! NO-body respects us! Now, what should I do in that situation? TAKE IT! TAKE IT! TAKE THE RESPECT FROM SOMEBODY!"

And then they went out onto the field. If you don't think that Bengals respects the Broncos defense today, you're only kidding yourself.

A great play in the first half saw Dawkins leap int the air like a leopard taking down a gazelle, jumping onto the back of the running back and pile-driving him into the turf. Mario Haggan showed commandingly why he's a captain, while Andra Davis taught folks the difference between practice and playing games that count. Alphonso Smith showed why the Broncos rated him as a high first-rounder. the line was stout, the defense aggressive and the outcome bore a strange sense of inevitability. These were men who simply and without artifice refused to let the game slip away.

They gave up a single touchdown near the end of the 4th quarter, and the offense promptly did something so bizarre, so incredible that it set an NFL record for a TD pass in the final minute of the 4th quarter. Those who scoff that it was 'just luck' either didn't watch it carefully or missed the point altogether. The hours of tipped ball drills this training camp had a purpose. The instructions to the wily veteran, Brandon Stokley, knew that he had to run next to the play "just in case the ball was tipped." It was, he was right there and the Broncos marched into the Josh McDaniels era as winners. Fans all over the country - over the world, really -  stood up as one and cheered.

It brought back to me something that John Bena has said several times. Winners win. Losers don't. It doesn't matter how. They are no partial victories, no moral victories, no undeserved victories. You win by placing yourself in a position that permits you to win, not by giving up, losing your poise and laying down. Luck played its own role, to be sure, but without preparation, effort and belief, luck has no place to roost.

The Broncos are being taught by a man in Josh McDaniels who's been a winner his whole life. He doesn't settle for anything else. His standards are high and his tolerance for excuses low. Their captains are men who don't give up, give in or accept defeat graciously. They are good sportsman, but they have a passionate distaste for losing that belies the honorable words and unbowed heads.

"And we're going to bring it and take it on three, ready, one, two, three, TAKE IT!"

They did. This really was the old cliche, the victory truly snatched from the jaws of defeat. It was a measure of the team that they played out of sync on offense, fought like hellions on defense and managed to refuse to accept an outcome that most around the nation saw as clear and inevitable.

Robert Browning once penned,

"Then welcome each rebuff
That turns earth's smoothness rough;
Each sting that bids not sit or stand, by go!
Be our joys three parts pain!
Strive, and hold cheap the strain,
Learn, nor account the pang: dare, never grudge the throe!

Somehow, I think that he would have liked this game.

There is one more thing. This summer, a poster told me that no one in football plays for less money than he has to. Tedy Bruschi wrote,

"...sometimes I get flak for not being a mercenary. The last contract I signed, I got a 3.5 million dollar bonus on a deal worth 8 million overall. And I got criticized for that. Think about that. I knew it could be more, but it's all right. Someone else makes more money than I do? Congratulations."

Bruschi is one of over a half dozen Patriots players who have deliberately left money on the table in order to build a winning club that can bring home multiple Super Bowls. They understand something about winning. You achieve it as a team, not as individuals. If Orton doesn't make the tough throw, if Stokley doesn't follow the play (and then have the heads-up play to run down the clock, amazingly), if the O line doesn't put their mistakes behind them to hold up the rush, the play can't work. All of them did, it did, and the Broncos will always have started out the season as winners. It's one down, and a lot more to go

They didn't just get the win: They took it. From the owner to the head coach and on down to the lowliest assistant and practice squad player, a lot of hard work, sacrifice and effort went into that victory. This is one time that I'm not going to talk about X's and O's, what they did or didn't do, plays or formations, performance and errors. It was a great win. It required them to fail, over and over, to continue to strive and to never give up on the play, the game or themselves.

Last year, we would have found a way to live with a lesser outcome. This year, we're taking the respect that we haven't been given.  And I wouldn't trade that feeling for gold.

"Attitude is the whole thing in football. Every team has the talent and the coaching. Motivation makes the difference. The teams that win stay healthy and interested." -- Sid Gillman, Hall of Fame coach.  The Broncos left Cincinnati with no new major injuries.

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good read, but who is antonio smith? lol

Antonio smith showed why the Broncos rated him as a high first-rounder. the line was stout, the defense aggressive and the outcome bore a strange sense of inevitability.

by lolcopter on Sep 14, 2009 3:33 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

ha yeah i skipped ahead to post so he could fix it =)

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 14, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fixed.

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by John Bena on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ironically

They still haven’t taken their respect. I was watching an interview and they were talking about how Cincy looked terrible against the horrible Denver defense.

In the same presentation they gave Denver’s offense the benefit of the doubt because they felt Cincy’s defense was much better than anyone knows.

I guess they are just going to have to go put on more performances like this one.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 3:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

next week won’t be any different — it will be “the browns inept O”

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry guys

Once we shut down Dallas and San Diego, they’ll take notice.

by Bronco Nut on Sep 14, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's basically how Dan Patrick sounded

this morning. A bad game vs two bad teams livened up by the last few minutes, or something like that. And “the Broncos are not a good football team… won’t win more than 4 more games…” etc. Okay, dan, we’ll see, since you follow them so closely I’m sure you’re totally right.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all what we've come to expect

If the universe doesn’t match MSM predictions, then the universe must be adjusted.

by ShawnDenver on Sep 14, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And let's not forget

John Clayton. I am not going to let him forget how bad he predicted the Denver defense would be this year. Granted this is one game, but they’re only going to get better.

by TheMastermind on Sep 14, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And of course his take this morning

was that Cincy struggled against a really bad Denver defense because they don’t have Housh anymore.

by ShawnDenver on Sep 14, 2009 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey we are Already

1/3 of the way to the number of wins he predicted for us.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

That guy is a chump. LOL

by TheMastermind on Sep 14, 2009 6:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

This disprespect is bad why?

With Dawkins to fire up the defense and McDaniels to fire up the Offense, I see disrespect as a good thing for this team. No player is going to give anything less then 100percent out on that field, and we will win many games we are not supposed to win this year.

by BroncoFanInLakewood on Sep 14, 2009 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My friends

WE WANT THEM TO DOUBT US! We want them to keep that fire burning in our bellies. We have to be disrespected. We will use that every game, every week, right into the playoffs.

Dawkins will light them up every week. Man I am glad he is on our team. Our secondary is pretty darn good. Dawkins hit like crazy, Champ played well, Hill made just an awesome tackle at the goal line, Goodman covered pretty well and our wasted draft pick Alphonso (Antonio) Smith was a star.

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Sep 14, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Dat

the US vs THEM mentality rules.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me the truth

Don’t you wanna put a whuppin’ on Mangini and then the Raiders? In the Raider game I can guarantee we are gonna see some NEW stuff for them to deal with and for the Cowboys to ponder!

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Sep 14, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Respect

Tery Bradshaw was about the person that picked Denver to win. During the game the announcers were blaming Cincy for not trying to win. As if Denvers D had nothing to do with it. Afterwards, people claimed that Cincy lost the game rather than Denver win. The giecko play of the day wasn’t Stokley’s touchdown but a average touchdown thrown by the Jets Sanchez. Chris Collingsworth claimed beforehand Denver wasn’t a very good team afterwards he blamed the loss on some Cincy curse.

 The point Denver still has a way to go to get respect.

"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me

by 3nS on Sep 14, 2009 3:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BDawk!!

Thanks for this piece, Bear. Any chance there’s a link to the pre-game pep talk BDawk gave to the troops before yesterday’s game? I heard it was chilling!

by pshin8670 on Sep 14, 2009 3:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks TB!

It was exactly like everyone said it was. After watching that, I really feel like hitting this cubicle partition my desk is sitting in front of!!!

Go Broncos!!!

by pshin8670 on Sep 14, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

I feel like smashing everything in sight right now. That’s pretty intense.

I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Sep 15, 2009 5:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Written with artistic brilliance...

Always enjoy your articles Bear, and the times when you point to the heart of the team like this. One of your articles was the first I ever read on MHR and it drew me into this place: a collection of brilliant minds. Great work again, and to all the MHR writers out there: Love and appreciate the thought and effort in everything you guys do for us.

Thanks again!

In It to Win It

It's Orange Crush Time

by USMCWall on Sep 14, 2009 3:58 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Great read bear

One question though — wasn’t that actually Cortez who burned his ships so his men wouldn’t try to escape to Cuba?

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by broncosmontana on Sep 14, 2009 4:01 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It happened first in China

For all I knowq, that’s where he heard about it ;-). One of my areas of enjoyment was Oriental military history, but that was decades ago and I’m ashamed to admit that I don’t recall the battle anymore. .

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's very cool!

Thanks for the history! Love that stuff as well!

And again, nice job. Love Robert Browning as well!

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by broncosmontana on Sep 14, 2009 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like you were thinking about Xiang Yu

Cortez is reported to have burned his ships in order to destroy in the minds of his crew the possibility of retreat. (Historians still debate whether he burned them, scuttled them, or simply ran them aground.) Whether he did or didn’t, Cortez didn’t invent the idea of burning your ships. In the 3rd Century BC, Chinese general Xiang Yu burned his ships at the River Yangtze. He took it one step further. He destroyed his troops’ cooking pots, as well, as a motivator for conquering their enemies. There was no way back and they had to win to survive. You might expect mutiny after something like that, but Xiang’s ploy worked.

— Chinese Art of War/Writing

Cooking pots, too? What a guy! His troops musta loved him! ; )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 15, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the research, montana!

Yes, that is who I recalled. Appreciate the save.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm here for you, buddy

; )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 15, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately,

the naysayers have too much invested in the “Broncos are terrible” narrative to change course now — especially because they can keep deferring: sure, the Broncos beat the “lowly Bungles” (who were four point favorites at home, and who have a “franchise QB” a “franchise” WR, and were the 12th ranked defense in the league last year, but never mind that), but what about that brutal 10-game stretch?

There will always be that next game that shows how much the Broncos “suck,” and even should they hit win 9, they won’t get any love: someone will say, “well, sure, but X didn’t have any reason to play hard in that game,” or “Y had a litany of injuries,” etc.

I’ve been listening to Denver sport talk radio all day, and it is clear to me that with few exceptions, the “experts” in Denver actually want the Broncos to lose. They’d never say as much, but they know that their credibility is on the line.

And this desire comes across in the tone of everything they say.

It’s sickening, frankly.

by JeffG on Sep 14, 2009 4:02 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Actually.......

It shouldn’t be sickening…..

ok yes. it always hurts to hear the media talking us down. It hurts when Joe Blow Average Bronco Fan (Bandwagon) believes the media and touts it like his own revelation.
But this bitter taste in our mouths……The “disrespect” given. Only fuels that great old adage…what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

Bring on the lack or respect, Underestimate us all year. The lower everyone thinks of us the BETTER we WILL DO! I am posotive that if this level of respect is continued all year by everyone we WILL be closer to that 13-3 team we want to see. Dawkins will FIRE UP that defense all year, and everyone will feel the need to stay SHARP and on TOP OF THEIR GAME!!!

I love this, there will be no Slouching, Slumbering, and no Sleeping, and therefore no Failing!!
I don’t mean we won’t take a loss, but a Fair and good loss is not failure. I hope the media keeps doubting us. I hope other teams underestimate us, and I hope that all of this hate FUELS THE FIRE THAT IS THE 2009 DENVER BRONCOS!!!!!

So Chin up my friends, and brothers. Breath deep and sure, and stand strong and RAGE against the dieing of the light!!! Walk tall and proud, and remember WE ARE BRONCO COUNTRY!!!!!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 15, 2009 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Word! Take IT!

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 15, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess I shoulda said sisters too :-D

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 15, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!

great read. Just wasted the BDawk video – CHILLS.

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Sep 14, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

As good as the one from the Madden intro.

“Can you feel that? Can you feel that doggone thing beating in your chest? Can you FEEL that?!?”

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Sep 14, 2009 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Broncos start 3-0, they will be considered the "best of a bad bunch"

In Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Oakland, et al.

Outrnaysayers and doubters will not begin to change their minds until we beat a real contender. Truth be told, they have every reason to withhold their respect. Who have we beaten? The 4-11-1/0-1 Bungles…next on the docket, the 4-12/0-1 Browns, then the 5-11 faders who will likely also be 0-1 after tonight.

I am pumped because we have beaten a team we should have beaten if we have any hopes for making the playoffs. The real test will arrive in Week 4. The Cowboys are nationally recognized as a “powerhouse” team. Personally, I think they are relatively weak and around about 6-7th best in the NFC, BUT a victory over them will show the mainstream media there is more to the Broncos than beating up on perennial losers…….

Go Broncos!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 14, 2009 4:04 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

What disgusts me the most this week

is the excuse-making for Jay Cutler. No one brings up the fact that the Broncos may have come out on the better end of this trade….too early to tell to be sure, but it doesnt hurt to say, “Well wait a minute here…”

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 14, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dungy

Every time they talk to Dungy about Cutler you get the distinct impression that he thinks Denver won.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well when youve been around a real "franchise QB"

you probably dont throw that term around as loosely as everyone else. Dungy is one of the most highly respected individuals in the league….Ill take his word over Dukes anyday.

On To Victory!!!

by alacumba!! on Sep 14, 2009 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Absolutely

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

jamie pukes

Actually made me vomit a little yesterday right after the game. “luck” and "what would they have done if they weren’t so stupid to get rid of cutler. We could have came home with a loss after 4 int’s that’s what. Wonder what pukes thought of his boy after da bears lost with their “franchise” QB?

by KalispellBronco on Sep 14, 2009 5:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

understatement of the day

but yes I agree. ;-)

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa

Jim Mora Sr. on the NFL Network roasted Cutler tonight. Basically calling him a spoiled little boy with a bad attitude.

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Sep 14, 2009 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a link of this anywhere online?

By chance? I’d LOVE to see it. “PLAYOFFS?? PLAYOOFS?!?! 4 INTERCEPTIONS AND YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?”

by RockyMountainHigh on Sep 14, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yay!

i want equality!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 14, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising...

considering that every commentator and analyst seems to be a Shanny guy. The SNF coverage with Collinsworth (still an idiot) and Michaels (normally one of the best) tells it all. Their take on the whole situation – McD’s a rookie coach who’s pissing off his players – may as well have come from Shanny’s mouth. As much as I’d prefer not to hate on Mike, if he’s going to play the media against McD and the Broncos all year, I’ll be glad to give some back to him.

Shanny – you encouraged a culture of “just win baby” in our locker room for the last 5+ years, with the same abysmal results that attitude has yielded for the Raiders. You left McD with ticking attitude-bombs in Cutler and Marshall, and are now using their inevitable explosions to smear your successor by bitching to your boys in the media.

You gave Denver fans back-to-back Bowls and we appreciate that, but the behind-the-scenes hate-fest on McD shows the side of you, and the team that followed your example, that we are glad to be rid of – vindictive, petty, childish and narcisstic. Rather like your interception-prone protege in the Windy City, and your old boss in Oakland.

You can take the boy out of Oakland, but…

A Bronco fan in San Diego - where history begins in 2004.

by BroncFanInChargerLand on Sep 15, 2009 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bear, I had to watch the pregame footage of Dawkins several times just to fully grasp what he was doing.

He seemed to be ascending under his own spell the more he went on (notice the way he flexes his arms). And it says something about him that people can watch him do that from beyond a computer screen and still feel that energy.

I’m not much of a gloater, but I couldn’t resist showing it to my Eagles-supporting little brother, and he immediately lamented the loss of Weapon X. One game in and I’m already sold that bringing him here was one of the best free agency moves McX made.

"Wow."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 14, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to blow smoke up your...

as i know what bears do in the woods ( or in Green Bay, phew )

(see what i did there ? )

It is journalism like this (thx BroncoBear) that makes MHR not just the best resource for the Denver Broncos on the internet, but maybe the best resource for football fans on the internet.

highly rec’d

by Jenna Talia on Sep 14, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody know what happened...

To Ocho’s ‘surprise’ yesterday? Or was it when he tweeted ‘WE WON! WAIT…OMG BRANDON STOKELEY JUST RAN 87 YARDS AND WE LOST!’

by TheMastermind on Sep 14, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Or

Was it, “I just torched Champ!” “Wait! He just knocked the ball away and it was intercepted.”

"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me

by 3nS on Sep 14, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Side note...

I was going to try to create a new post for this and expound upon it but since your takes generally good readership I will leech on with a semi-related topic.

The Broncos were always the team picking up loose balls, even dropped/incomplete passes. The coaching staff has programmed the players through the camps that all balls are live, to the point they are doing it in games, with non-live balls. This speaks of just one level of coaching that the team is getting and the reinforcement they must have had in camp that it still carries over on game day.

I love it.

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by Todd Jewell on Sep 14, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

great eye !

yet another thing to look for when i watch the game again later in the week. TY !

by Jenna Talia on Sep 14, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too

As with the tip drill stuff, they are playing for realz this year. (Did I really just use a z like that?)

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by broncosmontana on Sep 14, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

very apparent on the woodyard int.

he came in from 15 yards away and beat oh-nocincoto the loose ball. really great to see him TAKE IT.

"I want this team to be tough, smart and prepared to play well under pressure...Everybody here in this organization is going to be held accountable to do their job — their piece of the puzzle to make this team a competitor for a championship every season." J-Mac

by denver_diaspora on Sep 14, 2009 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You bet!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broncobear;

That is one of the best essays I have read in 50 years as an unofficial critic. As the son of an English teacher who himself had strong interest in both literature and philosophy (I inherited over 3000 books on philosophy alone), I just wish he was still here to share the experience. Thank you. Inspiring, literate, and with the ring of the deeper truth that we all know is in this game, but is so rarely expressed as potently, this one is going into my long term collection. Thanks again, and of course, Rec’d.

by idahobronc on Sep 14, 2009 4:16 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm honored

Thank you most kindly, good sir

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

Bear, have you ever considered a career in motivational speaking?

by jayrockstone on Sep 14, 2009 4:22 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Bear,

Great read!

Question for you, I have been looking to buy an inspirational book from an athletes perspective(biography, autobiography, or whatever) Which one would suggest first, any recommendations are appreciated.

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Sep 14, 2009 4:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd start with Bruschi's

It’s called Never Give Up, and its a pleasure to read.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doc....simply awesome...one of your best from a very high quality collection....thanks!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 14, 2009 4:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you bro!

I’m richer for the read.

you already know.

by justwhytee on Sep 14, 2009 4:33 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Here to Hoping...

the Bengals go on to win 13 games….for our sake.

by phondonkey on Sep 14, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Was just thinking that

next week would be a great week for Palmer to shake off the rust and get back into “Franchise QB” mode. :-)

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 15, 2009 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, Bear

You’ve outdone yourself. This was absolutely incredible! The ability to meld the inspiring words of Robert Browning with the inspiring performance in Cincinnati was extraordinary. You, sir, are a wordsmith.

Thank you very much!

" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "

by hairybear on Sep 14, 2009 4:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bear! I am honored to read your stuff.....

Great take, great viewpoint. You sure you didn’t steal all that feel good stuff from Woody Paige or Dave Krieger? YEAH RIGHT!

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Sep 14, 2009 5:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by RiG on Sep 14, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Woody was smart he'd steal from Bear :)

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 14, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man I love Brian Dawkins, he is an animal...
Dawkins leap int the air like a leopard taking down a gazelle, jumping onto the back of the running back and pile-driving him into the turf

I was saying the same thing to my brother after the game. He is an amazing player, he soars through the air to tackle people. So happy he is on our team, for both his leadership and play. I’m ready to headbutt my computer after watching the video. If that doesn’t get you fired up as a player, I don’t know what will.

Great job as always Bear. Rec’d.

by DBronx777 on Sep 14, 2009 5:08 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

that was an apt description by bear....

looked more like a lion than a leopard though…

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 14, 2009 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

long time reader...

1st time poster, lifelong broncos fan. Thank you to all of the excellent writers here on MHR. You’re a whole new level of class and intelligence.

by KalispellBronco on Sep 14, 2009 5:49 PM MDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

welcome aboard Kalispell!

and thanks!

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by Tim Lynch on Sep 14, 2009 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the fans that make the site

The staff loves to have the challenge of putting together content that matches the knowledge of the members. Glad that folks liked this, though, and thank you again.

It’s not a bad thing to remind people that success in the NFL, as in much of life, isn’t predicated on people giving you respect, but in you being willing to step up to the challenges of earning it. I was truly impressed with the Broncos ability to keep fighting on both sides of the ball. Everyone is great when the job is easy. When it’s a struggle, what’s inside a person tends to come out. We won. Congratulations to the team on a hard-fought victory

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 14, 2009 5:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bear,

Sorry I don´t get to these as fast as everyone else (my job takes me away from the Broncos every day unfortunately), but I want you to know this is one of your better ones.

Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.

by TJ Johnson on Sep 14, 2009 6:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgot to say, great stuff Bear

This is just great reading, after a great game (despite what Dan Patrick says).

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 7:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Off subject, but rest in peace to

Bodhi, aka Patrick Swayze.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 7:11 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great artice Bear I really enjoyed reading it

I really REALLY enjoyed that game Sunday as well. Nice to see our defense play so well!!! Very nice.

At this point I’ll refrain from any negativity.

This is the way we NEEDED to start this season if this new era is going to be successful. Now let’s build on this and see what happens!
Go Broncos!!

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 14, 2009 7:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Call Man

Refrain. There are things to improve but man it was nice seeing a defense play. If any fans can appreciate it, it is all of us.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of winners, just watched the Pats go ahead with :50 min left in the game. Great lineage, Coach.

Great Post BB

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 14, 2009 8:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya I am watching it with a friend

I told him the same thing. Winners win…don’t try to understand it.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 14, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I came here to post exactly that!

The Patriots despite moving the ball well all game had no business winning that game. I think two failed fourth down conversions, a missed FG, and a pick-six by Brady were the lowlights. Buffalo was beating them on the scoreboard and exposing the Patriots young defense. But how else do you explain a length-of-the-field touchdown drive, a forced fumble recovery on the ensuing kickoff, and another touchdown drive to go ahead?

Winners win, and I believe it.

by noleafclover on Sep 14, 2009 8:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they miss McD in NE....

The announce crew ddn’t mention it until very late in the game, but you could tell that they weren’t as explosive without McD calling the plays.

They squeaked it out, but it was not the “damn near perfect” offense from 2007, or 2008 for that matter.

A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!!

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Sep 15, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders???

What’s with the faiders actually playing some football??? I don’t like the looks of this. Other than I’d like to see both teams lose if that was possible.

by KalispellBronco on Sep 14, 2009 10:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

They can Tie

"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me

by 3nS on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see both teams lose (or more realistically tie)

too, but yeah the Raiders are playing pretty well tonight. Better than they looked on MNF 1st game last year. ;-) They also got totally jobbed on that ruling near end of 1st half.

And did anyone just see a typical Rivers move there just now? Taunting a Raider, what a little {expletive deleted}. Glad to see him get penalized for that.

So, yeah, I don’t know what this game means or proves but a tie would be nice.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

last 6 possesions

3 by each team. Total yards -3. Neither team deserves to win.

"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me

by 3nS on Sep 14, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said... both losing would be my first choice ;-)

Meanwhile, after watching this game, can we all agree that the Broncos have the best OL in the AFC West? I haven’t been too impressed with either team’s OL today.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 14, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Without preparation, effort and belief, luck has no place to roost"

I’m stealing that from you, Bear. Wow, what a piece!! If you aren’t a writer by trade, then you had better be awfully good at what you are doing because, if not, you are missing your callilng.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Well stated...ready to play Bear

Your words took me back to some potent pregames by an eloquent coach I had the fortune to play for in high school…you are so right about the intangibles…those things that begin to happen because a group of people begin to believe and SEE there belief become faith…it is a beautiful thing to be a part of as a player, a coach (coached hs football for 12 seasons as well) and as the fan of a great and unique franchise like the Broncos and much like being on a team no one knows outside the Bronco Legion what is actually going on…as a Coach later myself I was always tireless at making the team understand that it matters NONE what anyone else outside the locker room doors thinks about you…in good times and bad…they (naysayers or backpatters) really don’t know. I know we as Bronco faithful all saw this new atttitude coming but we were all a little gunshy to step forward I feel…it’s simple; the pieces are there…just needs time…Bear your words are inspring….please keep it up!!!

by Omniscient Orange on Sep 14, 2009 10:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to Shannon and Rod too

Can’t go without saying thank you to Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe for taking it upon themselves to make sure that “little brother Brandon” understands the golden ticket he holds…that was the first sign to me that things are heading to positive karma

by Omniscient Orange on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Superb, Bear! Rec'd!!

Right on target. I enjoy hearing of your Oriental military history. When I was a boy, I read war stories so much that I almost had them memorized.

by Blackknigh on Sep 14, 2009 11:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding

wrap-up. Everyone in America outside of Denver saw the “immaculate deflection” as a purely lucky play. Lucky play, true, but Bronco fans should appreciate what it took to get there and make that play matter. The D won a game for us for the first time in the 21st Century, when the offense had a terrible day. Championship teams have one unit that steps up when the others struggle. It’s a long road ahead, but McD’s already showing results – obviously with props to Nolan for resurrecting a demoralized and lost defense.

A Bronco fan in San Diego - where history begins in 2004.

by BroncFanInChargerLand on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Not all was disprespect

I should just add that, while Esiason and Shannon were vamping on the Bungles and the Immaculate Deflection, Bill Cowher simply praised outstanding play of the Denver defense, save for the final drive. Given his attitude toward football, I thought it was high praise indeed.

by MFC on Sep 15, 2009 12:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Leave it to Cowher and Dungy

to be the lone voices of reason regarding the Broncos this year. heh.

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 15, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to all

I’m glad to hear that from Cowher – and unsurprised. The man who led the Steelers isn’t easily swayed, so praise from him means more to me than all the petty mutterings of half the rest of the pundits. There are some good ones, to be sure: the others just sit like mocking birds in the eucalyptus, mimicking each other and praising their own babbling. But they make a living at it and I don’t, so in that it’s easy for me to talk. I don’t have any boss to please but my conscience and the membership, so it’s an easy job. I’m very glad that folks are getting something out of it – thank you.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 1:05 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Well written as always

But over the top for me. I love Dawk as a culture-changer and it’s great to see that paradigm shift occuring defensively. But the Orton play was 100% luck. That’s why this board has the reputation it does. A lot of great stuff here but my God.

by rururuland784 on Sep 15, 2009 1:28 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that is the point you are missing

It was a very nice play by the corner to get his hand on the ball, acrobatic actually, and though it might have been luck that the ball was tipped into the field, it was certainly not luck that Stokes began to run to the play rather than give up on it.

On that note, I actually liked what Alfred Williams had to say on the Scott and Al show today. He was extremely complimentary of Stokely for his heads up play, and was just DOGGING on Dahany Jones for giving up not once, but twice on the same play. As you have written Bear, this team wanted this win, and no matter what way they got it, they did NOT stop playing.

Though it might have been a little over the top, it was a great read and extremely well written. Thanks as always Bear!

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— George Bernard Shaw

by Choochoobonewagon on Sep 15, 2009 3:19 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

Opinions vary, as do tastes. Obviously, there are a few folks who disagree with you, but there’s room fo rlots of persepctives.

Something to consider, though – I’m only writing from my own perspective. I just don’t get the constant angst thing. I believe that folks tend to make their own luck. someone once said that the harder he worked the luckier he got – it’s true. Working hard on tipped ball drills made a difference on two plays, both in our favor. While you see that as ‘pure luck’, I see the hard work that went into creating that luck. It’s just a difference in perspective.

But, I don’t write for folks who disagree with me. I write what I see. As far as ‘the reputation it doesn’, you’re right – from the poll that John ran, it’s about 87% favorable and has a rep as having some of the best sports writing on the web. I know that you didn’t intend it this way, but thanks for the compliment.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again it is my own opinion

But let’s not pretend that the general tone of this piece isn’t a microcosm of the board. I thought it was quite creative and a compelling read. But it doesn’t hold much weight for me as an objective analysis of the game. No, I’m not going to jump into this myopic orgy.

by rururuland784 on Sep 15, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

But You Did

You did jump in ruru. Thank you. We needed to know that you disdain everything about everybody on this board. Very enlightening.

by Endzone on Sep 15, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries - I wouldn't have you ;-)

In fairness, I think that you’re missing the entire point of the piece and that’s not really surprising. It wasn’t meant as an objective analysis of the game, and I said so in the piece, so what does that matter? There are parts of the game that go vastly beyond Xs and Os. There is a pattern to winning and losing that you’re ignoring in your responses. That’s what this piece is on and that’s why I say that you’ve missed the point.

The willpower of the human soul is unimaginably great. Sometimes you see it in as mundane a thing as a football game. Personally, I give a great deal of respect to that. If that strikes you as a ‘myopic orgy’, hey, that’s your business.

Kind of a shame, ruru. In your first comment, you made some sense. In your second, you just had to pull out the snide remark. I’m just curious – how does it really help you?

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Help for what?

I’m not here like the vast majority of others seeking the overloard’s blessing. I’m here to state my opinion.

As for the substance of your response, I absolutely do accept the premise that the game is decided beyond x’s and o’s (Generically reffered to as inrangibles). I’m simply of the frame of mind that this was more divine intervention than a manifestation of the holistic change many claim to be witnessing under this regime.

As we know, the idea that the most deserved team or the team who has the appearance of winning desire, is often at the other end of the “miracle.”

The most lucid example I can think of regarding Broncos lore is the 1998 AFC championship game.

by rururuland784 on Sep 16, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Bear!

It is so refreshing to see football viewed in this way: As more, much more, than simply a conglomeration of men running into one another; but as a total effort by a total team for a total of 60 minutes. The Broncos outplayed the Bengals for 58 minutes; the Bengals outplayed the Broncos for 1:50 … but in that last 10 seconds, a winner emerged from the pack. I don’t know how this game will translate into the rest of the season, but I know how this attitude will! Thanks for the article.

by 42n81 on Sep 15, 2009 6:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read

Thanks, Bear. Once again another outstanding article. I love the enthusiasm and optimism on this site. I don’t know how I would’ve made it through the offseason without you guys, and only being able to base my opinions on what those in the MSM say.

Here’s to a great play, lucky or not, and to many more this season. Go Broncos.

This is our team, let's have fun with it! - dmitchell624

by solace on Sep 15, 2009 6:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Delightful, Bear!

LOVED watching Dawks pump up the D like that! Even if he didn’t take down receivers like a lion on a gazelle, his leadership alone is worth the salary! This is a 100% different defense than took the field last year. And watching that video…this is actually just a completely different team. And not just schemes and personnel…the whole culture and attitude is completely different than last year. It’s little things like Bucks wanting to win especially for Josh….the fundamentals that are now always being considered by our guys (Stoks running the clock before stepping home, Orton and the others trying not to celebrate too much so there wouldn’t be a penalty, winning the turn-over margin), and the very end of that post game video Coach and Dawks in a bearhug – that was just fun to see. This is a team again.

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 15, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This
…and the very end of that post game video Coach and Dawks in a bearhug – that was just fun to see. This is a team again.

Oh, didn’t you hear? None of the players are buying in and McDaniels has lost the locker room.

This is our team, let's have fun with it! - dmitchell624

by solace on Sep 15, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, isn't that one rich?

Did you catch Vonnie Holliday’s radio interview. He was very specific – listening to the media, he expected a divided locker room and a fragmented team. What he found when he got to Denver was the polar opposite. He mentions several folks by name, Kenny Peterson and Elvis Dumervil among them and talked about how good the atmosphere of the team is. Buckhalter talks about winning one for Josh. Dawkins talks about the lack of respect that they’re getting and taking from people. The sad fact, for those who desperately want to see McDaniels fail, is that the Broncos are doing well. The team is unified and the defense is strong. The offense needs to gel, but after watching a lot of football, it was like that for established team too, this weekend. It’s just opening week, and conclusions one way or the other are premature.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the Pats O didn't really get going until the last two minutes

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 15, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know where it came from...

..but I was giving a pep talk to our team (losing at half time). We weren’t used to going into a half losing, and I was suprised at how badly the guys seemed to be taking it. I told them that being “tough” doesn’t mean you never get knocked down, it means you keep getting up and you keep swinging at the other guy (I’m sure my language was more course than that though).

But it is the same point. Good teams don’t stop fighting because of a bad play or a bad score. Good teams keep fighting for the win from start to finish. There were plenty of things to be critical of in this game, but I liked the attitude of the players and the effort. Those are things that I haven’t seen for awhile from this team.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 15, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I thought it was obvious that Brady is guarding the knee to the detriment of his mechanics. There were lots of other problems – as I said, many of the teams are sloppy at this time of year – but Brady seemed to be one of the worst. His line wasn’t bvery good last season and it hasn’t started out well, either. It’s got to make TB nervous

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 1:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He had 14 incompletions in 53 pass attempts

Many of which were dropped passes. The last few throws he made were unbelievable.

I’ll take that sloppy player on my team.

by rururuland784 on Sep 15, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see

Yes, mechanics, of which you are the authority of, have nothing to do with the end result which apparently was sloppy Sunday night for TB.

by rururuland784 on Sep 15, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post as usual bear.

Watching the chiefs game with the Ravens had me thinking if the Ravens are so great on defense then why did they give up 24 points to the so called lowly chiefs? If we are that bad and we a played a team who is as bad or worse, then we as a team are in deep caca. Which is it I ask? Are we that bad to be lucky enough to hold off a terrible cincy offense for 55 minutes without a score??? I’m confused. So with all that said, then the Ravens must really stink to give up 24 points to the dismal chiefs.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 15, 2009 7:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Not entirelyT

Two of the KC scores were due to turnovers. You give them the ball and good enough field position, and like an NFL team, they can still score

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 15, 2009 10:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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