Complimentary Football
I'm not really big on creating fanposts because i'm not sure i really know enough about the game yet.. Coming from London, UK, football has not been something i have been brought up on so most of the info i have learned comes from this site.. therefore reading often feels more relevant than posting because i have a lot to learn and not much to teach.. However i am very interested in this sport and the more i watch and learn the more i like it.. so with that in mind i decided to create this fan post about complimentary football as much for my own learning as for any benefits that others might find in my simplistic thoughs..
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One statement Josh McDaniels made yestreday in his press conference yesterday really interested me..
On if fatigued played a role in Cincinnati's 91-yard touchdown drive"(It) could have been for sure. We weren't on the field enough offensively to prevent that. We have got to have the ball for more than 26 minutes offensively if we want our defense to hold up as the game goes on. We have got to play better complimentary football on both sides."
Complimentary football as i understand it goes a little like this.. (At kick off assuming we are recieving) Good Special teams play provides good field position for our offense:-) Good Offense kills time on the clock (there by keeping the Defense off the field), moves the ball down field and hopefully scores; if it doesn't score it at least moves the ball downfield enough so that the punter and the Special Teams unit can secure a bad field position for the opposition so that our Defense has the right conditions to pressure the other team and essentially stop there drive:-) (If they are not stopped then this process start again from the beginning) If they stop the opposing offense then the ST unit once again trys to provide good field possition for the offense so that they have less yards to gain in order to score and the process start again..
In a Nutshell: ST helps the Offense by giving them good field position, Offense kills time to keep D fresh and if they don't score ST helps D by backing up opposition, D helps Offense by giving them another chance to score.. and so on..
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While this may sound incredibly simplistic to most of you.. I think it is interesting because it really shows that a whole team effort is required in order for every element of the game to function smoothly and effciently and ultimately help the team win.
In his in depth post The Dude Abides...a 2008 Lesson in Field Position, Time of Possession, & Turnovers lebowskibronco shares his insight about how big a role FP, ToP & Turnovers play into getting a win. This is important for us to understand because it is something that our newish HC focuses on pretty strongly. I think that complimentary football ties in with these ideas perfectly, not only because these things are important in getting the win, but they can each be affected by one area of the team helping other areas of the team and becoming a cohesive unit that works together to acheive victory.
With all that being said i will look at how we did in terms of complimentary football in our last game.
You will have to bare with me a little through this because i am not a stats guy and as i said at the begining i am doing this for myself as well.. So if it's a little boring or simplistic i apologise in advance..
Lastly i want to thank lebowskibronco for his posts on the subject because without them i doubt i would have understood enough about this to even attempt this post.. haha... anyway enjoy.. ;-P
Here is a little snippet from the game to help us understand how each third of the team (ST O & D) can help or hinder the other.
1st Quarter
Kickoff from CIN 30 to DEN 17. E.Royal MUFFS catch (BTW Muff means something totally different on this side of the pond.. lol), recovered by C.Buckhalter at DEN 20 - didn't advance.
Straight away you can see that Royal slipping on that play effects the starting field position for the Offense making the field long for them.
First Possession, 1 first down, 1 drop by Marshall, What should have been a penalty on Stokley cost us the drive. Total time off possession 2:04.
The drop hurt us as did the non-penalty but ultimately we didn’t eat much time of the clock and only ended up at the Den 42.
4-9-DEN 43 (12:51) Kern punts 45 yards to CIN 12, fair catch by Q.Cosby.
Good punt backing the Bengals back near there end zone.
Doom blocks Palmers pass on 3rd down after the Bengals gained 30 yards.
4-10-DEN 47 (8:48) 10-K.Huber punts 31 yards to DEN 16, Center-48-B.St. Louis, out of bounds.
D does their job, Punt was not returnable..
2nd Pos: 3 and out.. ToP was just over a minute..
4-5-DEN 21 (7:23) Kern punts 43 yards to CIN 36, Q.Cosby to 50 for 14 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
Kern has a long way to punt thanks to the offense.
D starts with bad FP, manages to stop a TD and recovers a botched fieldgoal.
3rd Pos: Start with good FP (Den 44): 3 and out.. Sack, Marshall misses a long ball, another sack.
Kern punts to the 21 returner is downed at 32.
D stops the Bengals just after the quater...
I won't break down the whole game because we could be here forever, but as the game went on the Offense improved slightly but still couldn't manage a long drive, final ToP was 26:33 so the D was on the field a lot and started to make mistakes in the 4th quarter largely due to tiredness.
All in all you can see that the sloppy play on offense caused a couple of problems.. Firstly we did not score.. Secondly we did not take time off the clock so that the D was on the field more, which has a knock on effect of tiring them out so that later in the game they become less effective.. Thirdly we didn't move the the ball at all so that ST had a harder time of managing the FP battle.
The Defense played well most of the game and stopped the opposition the majority of the game only giing up 7 points... Which is a great acheivement in itself. They only gave up 307 total yards, 86 rushing, 221 passing. The average per running play was only 3.2.. but the average per passing play was a little worst at 6.1... most of the passing plays seems to be down to missed assignments at LB but some where just good plays by the Bengals.
On ST we had 3 PR for 17 yards and 2 KO returns for 17 yards.. this area needs just as much work as the offense does going into the next game. Kern punted o.k mostly with one or two bad ones and had an average of 42.5. Prater had a good night.. both with field goals and kickoffs.
From all this you can see that Denver has to do a better job with the offense, managing the clock.. not dropping balls, throwing to the receiver with space to catch.. and lastly making yards haha.. They also have to improve on returning duties so that the O which has struggled has a slightly better FP to start with so it has more chance of scoring.. And the D just needs to do it all again but hopefully be on the field for less and improve on LB coverage..
Here is what Josh McDaniels had to say on the subject after the game..
"We talked a lot about getting off to a good start on each drive, and we had too many bad plays to start series that led to three-and-outs. You do not want to be in second-and-10 or second-and-12. We had too many of those situations. We dropped some balls. We had some miscommunications. We had some bad throws. We kind of took turns offensively being the reason why we couldn't get into a good rhythm. In such a field-position game that was played yesterday, we need to do a heck of a lot better job of getting it out of our end, and then at least if we have to punt it, punt it back so that they are backed up. For the most part, we were in our end a bunch yesterday. We started seven or eight drives inside our own 20 and a few times had enough going there to get it out but didn't do it on a consistent basis. A lot of little things to clean up, certainly, and our players are going to see a number of things in areas where we can improve."
Hopefully these areas will be worked on and improved by next week.. I guess my main point is we don't need just one aspect of of our team to be fantastic (thats the way you build 8-8 seasons.. lol), we have to play better Complimentary Football in order to win more consistantly.
Hope you enjoyed my limited exploration of Complimentary football...
Peace :o)
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You got it down pretty good for a redcoat. :)
I am also pretty sure “muff” has a dual meaning in America as well. lol Anyway, I am not even a huge sports fan. I used to be as a kid growing up, but as I grew older I began to demand more from sports that use up my valuable time. It really came down to one sport. Football. American Football. NFL Football. There is no other game that relies more on game planning than on player ability. You don’t find the kind of strategy in baseball, basketball, soccer, auto racing, et al that you always find in NFL Football. Hell, you cannot even find it at the College level. Why? Parity. The difference between 16-0 and 0-16 is a few steps or a few seconds or a few downs…I can’t tell you how many games the Lions lost in the final seconds last year or how many games the Patriots won in the final seconds in 2007.
My valuable time, as I call it, reaps huge rewards when watching NFL football. The ability to see the game develop, whether it be an offensive shootout or a defensive war of attrition, no game ends in the same manner or is even coached in the same manner. It takes players executing and coaches adapting to win, it’s not just a TEAM effort…its an ORGANIZATIONAL effort to win. I have not found any other sport that takes the kind of equal effort from the top down to create a winning team.
An example would be the Bengals. They have TONS of talent, but they lack good playcalling and good upper management. The players can execute a bad game plan extremely well all day long and still lose, while players can poorly execute a perfect game plan and lose too. To win in the NFL it takes committment from the very Top to the very Bottom and everywhere in between. You have to have an Owner with a strong desire to win and the sanity to go with it(that’s for you Crazy Al!), you have to have good staff that can eye talent in the draft and FA, you have to have a coaching staff that puts out good game plans and can adapt well on the fly, and you have to have talented players that execute the game plans well.
In baseball or basketball its more about players executing individually or as a team than it does with coaching a game plan or upper management. I’m not sure I am making sense, but that is why I am a fan of football and why I don’t waste my time or effort watching other games. That is not to say the other sports are not good sports, they just don’t fit my mindset and I surely don’t want anyone to think I am putting you down for enjoying other sports… (back peddling in case I came off as arrogant or something lol)
Wow, what a tangent…gotta get back to work!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Thanks for the reply Zappa..
.. it was eerily quiet in here.. i was hoping it was at least worth a reply.. lol
I pretty much feel the same about other sports as well.. I have spent time through the years watching different sports but never to seriously.. tbh i find english football (soccer) a little boring.. American football has definetly got me interested! I started watching a few years ago and just tried to understand it a little and see what it was all about.. I watched a few games from a few different teams and Denver was the team that i felt pulled towards and the rest is history.. But i totally agree with you that it has the most indepth strategy of any sport that i know off, the only thing that i can really discribe it like is a cross between rugby and chess.. When i read some of the posts on here about the development of the spread offense or HT’s university on 5-2/3-4 defenses i come away thinking that so much more planning and detail goes into this game than any other i can think of.. I guess i also feel some kind of affinity with the nfl as well.. i visted america a couple of times when i was young and the nfl was actaully quite popular over here in the 80’s when i was young so i guess some of those experiences have ingrained themselves in me.
The guy i work for is a rugby coach in his spare time….. and i was talking to him today about the similarities.. I was trying to compare the responsibilities of the backs and forwards to the nfl system.. and it’s actually pretty tough because although there are similarities the game has developed a whole lot since the 1860’s when the canadians brought it to you guys.. In rugby the backs (small, quick guys) and forwards (tough, big guys) play on both sides of the ball which keeps the game relatively simple.. the fact that in the nfl the ‘back’ and ‘forwards’ have turned into linemen and skillplayers and that they are totally different skill sets of eack sides of the ball makes the game a lot more complicated straight away.. add to that gameplans, routes, blocking schemes, blitz packages, covereage style and many other things and you have basically got a rugby chess match.. lol
Anyway i appreciate your ‘tangent’ and think that you are spot on with the Organisation statement..
Great first post
I don’t know about you not having the knowledge to post, my friend – seems to me like you’re doing just fine. A clear understanding of the importance of all three areas of the game and how they interact seems to elude many pundits and you nailed it. Rec’d, and thank you. Please contribute more!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
Thanks Bear..
.. i wouldn’t be where i am in understanding of this game without the help of you and the other guys on this site.. ;-)
I’ll try and contribute.. It’s tough when i feel like everything is being covered already.. lol.
Also it’s not quite my first one but that was a while ago for sure.. :-)
I think signing Dawkins..
.. was the best move of the whole offseason in the whole nfl in all 32 teams…
He kicks serious butt everytime he’s on the field!
Also love how the D-line stood up against a Bengals line that is known for doing well in the running game.
felt this deserved a 5th rec
Welcome Horsestance and I hope you keep offering your perspective for 2 reasons:
(1)IMHO, we learn best when we engage in dialogue, offer up what we believe we’re hearing and seeing and asking others for their perspective. So your post deserves a rec for creating a post
as much for my own learning
(2)IMHO, it is very valuable to hear the opinion of someone who is new to the game. Such an “outside looking in” perspective can often see things that those of us who think we know a lot about the game might normally miss. I’ve been following it for about 40 yrs now, and this site is teaching me how much I can learn about the game and my favorite team. If I could, I’d give a 2nd rec for reminding me of that.
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Thx B.. luv your posts as well ;-)
I think i have learn’t more in 3 months here than i have in 3 years listening to bad commentators’..
A change of pace...
So I know some(myself included) are quite worried about Orton’s play and the three and out’s we saw over and over. Not to mention (except I’m mentioning it right here….) the fact that we really should have lost that game. Of course, there were multiple games this weekend where silly things happened allowing the team who should have lost to win.
I’m rambling. My point, is that even though we’re worried about multiple facets of our team, is anyone else thrilled and invigorated at the fact that we’re Worrying About Our OFFENSE While Our DEFENSE Carries The Team??? How long has it been since we could say that? Hell, since we could even imagine a world where it was possible?! Undefeated til we’re not baby!!!
by 3RingsHeProbablyKnowsSomething on Sep 15, 2009 3:08 PM MDT reply actions
nice job
One thing – this isn’t me trying to be a grammar nazi, I just thought you’d like to know. It’s “complementary”. A compliment is when you give kudos to someone or flatter them. To complement is to complete something. I really like McDaniels’ complementary football, it really underscores how team-oriented he intends this to be (as opposed to Shanahan’s philosophy of it really being a business first, expecting the players to be grown-up enough to understand that). I think this will increase loyalty and better create the kind of playing that will result in players grabbing miracle tips out of the air.
I was going to point out the same thing but you beat me to it
One of the definitions of complementary is “mutually supplying each other’s lack,” which gives specific context to “serving to fill out or complete.” But as you imply HorseStance nicely highlights the importance of a conscious focus on the different units complementing one another, as opposed to Shanahan’s more laissez-faire attitude. While the offense didn’t control time of possession as I had hoped, thus allowing our defensive starters to stay fresh, they did avoid the kinds of turnovers that sank the Bears and which all too often left last year’s defenders with their backs against the wall. The defense itself turned in a heroic effort that kept the game close enough for Stokley’s incredible play to make the difference. The coverage units also did their part in keeping the defense from having to defend a short field, although the return units could have done a better job. Smith’s bonehead decision to run the ball out rather than take a knee and save precious seconds could have been disastrous, but he’s a rookie after all and probably will never make that mistake again. The contrast in outcomes between our game and the Bears game vindicates McDaniels’ reservations about Cutler and appreciation for Orton’s less-gray-hair-inducing QB mentality.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Wasn't that Royal?
I thought Eddie was returning on that last kickoff.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 16, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
You're right!
I just checked my DVR. Wow. So surprised Royal would do something like that. Guess Kern wasn’t the only vet who made mistakes. Don’t think they’ll be bringing in a possible replacement for Eddie, though.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Turnovers!
Didn’t think off that at all when writing it.. glad you picked up on that!
The D helped the O by creating 1 and the O helped the D by not! Compl*e*mentary Football at it’s finest!
Thx Spock!
by HorseStance on Sep 16, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly..
.. I thought about editing the post after reading your post but i think i’ll leave it.. i always think it’s a bit harsh when someone edits after they have been corrected.. because the person who pointed out the mistake looks like they read it completely wrong.. lol.
Thx.. ;-)
by HorseStance on Sep 16, 2009 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Good post HorseStance.
I think we were very lucky to win that game yesterday. Usually when you lose the TOP and field position battle you lose the game. You add lose the turnover battle in addition (which we didn’t) and you’re pretty much guaranteed a loss.
In the first half alone the TOP was 19:48 Bengals v 10:12 Broncos. They also repeatedly started with great field position. Part of that was that it took the Broncos 3 possessions to get their first completed pass. If the Bengals didn’t repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot then there’s no way we go into half with a 3-0 lead. Cincy had two big plays called back by penalties, a bad snap on a chip shot FG, and an INT in the RZ.
Fortunately things improved somewhat in the second half, but we were still lucky to win that game.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
We won a game that we "shouldn't have"
because we made fewer critical mistakes. Not making mistakes (or making fewer than the other team) isn’t sexy but it’s possibly the most important factor in winning. And smart coaches and players know that.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Lucky is as Lucky does.
The team had to play well enough so that 1 lucky play could pull it off. I remember way too many games last year when that play would not have resulted in a close game, much less a win.
Thank you Horse Stance for the very fine post.
Cincinnati lost the game because of poor coaching period. Why call a time out when you are on the 1 foot line with 40 seconds left and 3 time outs. Line up take the clock down to 20 seconds and run a play. If you then don’t score call a time out and run another play. With their FB Johnson and RB Benson you can’t make a foot? McDaniels will work on the little things like someone said above and improve this team all during the year.
Good point about Cinci not running down the clock
Quite a contrast to Stokley, who in the heat of the moment nonetheless had the presence of mind to run an extra five seconds off the clock before dipping into the end zone. Is there anybody in the league who plays smarter than this guy?
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

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