Horse Tracks 9/16/09 - Getting ready for the Brownies and a salute to Big Play Shay

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 5:30 AM MDT in Horse Tracks Comment 53 comments

DB - Browns Next on Broncos Radar - Patrick Smyth
Lots of goodies from this week's press release.

DPP - Broncos linebacker Williams still tackling change - Jeff Legwold
D.J. Williams is happy with his new role within the D, despite all of the fear mongers who told him he'd hate the switch to a 3-4/5-2.

DPP - Smith happy with his play in debut - Jeff Legwold
Despite being too short to play in the NFL (and that the trade to acquire him was obviously a move rooted in stupidity), Alphonso Smith had quite an impact on Sunday's game.

NFL - Broncos temporarily push turbulent offseason aside - Vic Carucci
Carucci noticed on Sunday that the Broncos' D doesn't actually suck. Who knew?!

LTC - Let Broncos bask in victory - Brian Howell

LTC - A leg up - Brian Howell

DPP - Q&A: Broncos punter Kern can hang with the best of 'em - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Analysis: Outwitting the Patriots' Way - Jeff Legwold

CSG - Broncos 50th anniversary team named - Frank Schwab

CSG - Lucky tip doesn't erase offensive issues - Frank Schwab

DP - The Miracle: Gus Johnson’s call - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Numbers: Sharpe salute

CPD - Grossi's Scouting Report: Denver's McDaniels catches a break in his head coaching debut - Tony Grossi
Quite frankly, Grossi has a pretty accurate report on the Broncos. He must have asked his Ohio friends John and Ted...

Browns News

CPD - Cleveland Browns morning news roundup: Brady Quinn remains the guy

AFC West News

SDUT - Chargers stayed healthy ... for 30 minutes - Kevin Acee
According to Acee, LDT and C Nick Hardwick could miss Sunday's game versus the Ravens.

SDUT - A worrisome win, a feeling of defeat - Nick Canepa

NFL - Haley unsure if Cassel will play in home opener; Chiefs sign WR Wade

KCS - Chiefs add receiver Wade and release linebacker McBride - Kent Babb

CCT - Peterson: It's Murphy's law: Reviews are like a box of chocolates

CCT - Poole: In defeat, Raiders show that they care

CCT - Raiders notebook: Cable sees flaw in catch rule - Steve Corkran

NFL News

NFL - Eagles activate Vick to 53-man roster; release Baskett

NFL - Eagles place starting tackle Shawn Andrews on injured reserve

NFL - 49ers president York offers to meet Crabtree

NFL - NFL will wait to determine punishment for Saints' Smith, Grant

NFL - Belichick says Mayo injury not season-ending

NFL - Lawn of Bills CB McKelvin vandalized following loss to Patriots

NFL - NFL investigating Mangini's role in Jets' failure to list Favre injury

NFL - Giants LB Boley reinstated; RB Johnson claimed off waivers
The G-Men landed former Dolt Gartrell Johnson.

NFL Opinion

NFP - Tavern talk: Learning from experience - Mike Lombardi
Lombardi thinks the Bungles should have run more time off the clock at the end of their TD drive. I'm not so sure about that; when you NEED a touchdown, you've gotta just get it; there's no sense in running the clock out on yourself. It's different if a FG is okay. The problem was letting Stokley get behind the defense.

NFL - Sanchez marvelous, Texans not so much, in NFL's opening week - Mike Lombardi

SI - Chargers won't cruise in AFC West; Sproles better than Tomlinson - Don Banks

NFL - Pats' rally over Bills proves quality teams rise to occasion under pressure - Steve Wyche

NFL - Six from Sunday: Sanchez, Favre, Singletary among Week 1 standouts - Pat Kirwan

NFP - Don’t blame McKelvin, credit Brady - Matt Bowen

SI - Buffalo Bills played great in NFL Week 1; Peter King mailbag - Peter King

SI - John Fox's job in jeopardy; Pittsburgh defense in trouble - Jerome Bettis

Y! - No matter how bad it looks, Bears aren't hopeless - Mike Silver

NFL - How Bears adjust to life without Urlacher will determine their fate - Bucky Brooks

Y! - Smith's contract reminiscent of Williams' pact - Jason Cole

NYT - Mike Bell’s Second Chance With Saints - Andrew Das

NFP - The agent cycle - Jack Bechta

NFP - The NFP Power Rankings
The Broncos rank 23, up 1 spot from last time

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Good Morning nyc, Thank You for all you do on Horse Tracks...

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Sep 16, 2009 6:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Vic Carucci's article is very good

And not just the part about the Broncos. Thanks, nyc.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 16, 2009 7:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

thanks heaps

I still haven’t been able to get the game and here is the only place i can get good info from

by HurdanMori on Sep 16, 2009 7:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I haven't seen the game either

and this site is really good because there are several members who have seen the game so you will know what happens here. That is another reason why this site is the best. I am really contemplating getting game rewind so I can watch any game on my computer.

Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 16, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do it, weasel

If you can put together the scratch, it’s one of the nicest tools you can have. You can scout the opposition, rerun plays that were of interest and never have to deal with commercials. One of the members turned me on to it and I’ve been grateful ever since

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 16, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I had to do it.

The clarity of the video is really good. I see what you mean, I am going to love this. Now I will be able to watch the games I am not able to see and know what everyone else is talking about.

Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 16, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can watch that play a billion times and it’s still awesome and makes me smile.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 16, 2009 7:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Me Too!

I replayed it over and over last night while I was waiting for some sauce to reduce on the stove. LOVE IT!

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 16, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stupid San Diego

The Dolts lost Gartrell Johnson? Their arrogance didn’t pay off with this move. I’m sure they wanted him on their practice squad. Whoops. Why look to the future if you can hang out to relics of the past like LTD and Michael Bennett. AJ Smith excellence ended in 2006.

Me thinks the same thing would have/will happen if Denver tries to sneak McKinley or Brandstater on the practice squad.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Pretty surprised

I agree, what a dumb move by the dolts. All we heard from San Diego’s camp this training camp was how well Johnson was doing and how impressed the coaches were with him. I was pretty excited when I saw they lost him.

by Vandylaxn21 on Sep 16, 2009 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

As was I

hated rooting for the kid as a Dolt…now I don’t feel so dirty cheering for him! :-)

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 16, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I think A.J. Smith is a blowhard, I can’t figure he really expected Johnson to pass through waivers. Seems to me the Giants are the new running back factory, having surpassed the Broncos in that category…

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would have been thrilled if Denver cut Jordan and signed Gartrell Johnson.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 16, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ditto

Or even kept Darrius Watts over Jordan

Jordan has done little to impress me.

by trumanj on Sep 16, 2009 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Darius Walker?

Darius Watts was a WR from Marshall we drafted a few years back.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Sep 16, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

what a bizarre fruedian slip that was. I noticed Watts was playing in the AFL for Jovi’s team last year.

by ELGee on Sep 16, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Darius Watts: #34 in the list of Shanny's "Special" players

Two things I don’t miss about the old admin:

1) Talking up K.C. Jones, Trey Teague, Darius Watts, etc. as future stars

2) Floating stories about near-draft misses — at various times, we’ve heard how the Broncos almost drafted Ed Reed, almost drafted Steve McNair. Brian Urlacher. Justin Tuck. Etc., etc.

by Chibronx on Sep 16, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've got me CB

Who the heck is K.C. Jones?

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Backup center in the late 1990s. Shanny pushed him as the heir to Zimmerman and Tony Jones. You know: He’s “special.” Him, Trey Teague and Lennie Friedman: The dominant O-line of the future.

by Chibronx on Sep 16, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

OH YEAH

Wow, CB. I didn’t think I could get stumped on someone so recent; very nice…

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The question

answers the question. Good job! : )

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 16, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

his job isn’t to impress you. it’s to help teach Knowshon the offense.

by ELGee on Sep 16, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

^^^This^^^

He’s what, the 4th string RB anyways? I don’t think we should be expecting too much production from #4 on the depth chart

by powderaddict on Sep 16, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watts and Walker are both scrubs.

IMO, Gartrell Johnson has much more NFL impact potential.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 16, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

Wish we’d grabbed Gartrell and cut Walker

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 16, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not possible; Walker is on the practice squad, not the active roster

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bolts better keep their mitts off Walker lemmetellya

I guess they couldn’t sign him away to their practice squad, though, only to their active roster.

Just a momentary alarmist conjecture.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 16, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

One thing I am not surprised about

is that with LT hurt last year and looks like he will be dinged up this season as well is the fact that they haven’t used Bennett yet. They have only used him a handful of times since they got him.

Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 16, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Nyc

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Sep 16, 2009 8:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, NYC.

"Wow."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 16, 2009 8:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Grossi and his commenters...

…think we have a weak O line, because some guys got hit during preseason? I was onboard with their analysis until that point.

by brand on Sep 16, 2009 8:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

"TEMPORARILY push turbulent offseason aside "

really? Way to be a downer, Carucci.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by kentuckybronco on Sep 16, 2009 8:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

its about the kindest thing i've read from MSM in a while

by trumanj on Sep 16, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked this quote from that article

“I think we actually have a bigger advantage of having (McDaniels) being such a good offensive coach and coming from the Patriots and having a lot of (offensive) success,” said Woodyard, who had an interception against Cincinnati. “He relays a lot of stuff to us that we, as defensive players, probably would never even pick up — certain schemes, certain plays. The biggest thing is how most quarterbacks think. If you allow a defense to get a good insight on that, you’ll have some success.”

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Sep 16, 2009 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

+1

know they enemy

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 16, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

And trust thine coach

The players have responded well to Josh because he really knows football – on both sides of the ball

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 16, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm hoping for the best for McDaniels

If he succeeds… we’re good for a long long long time.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 16, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks a to NYC

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Sep 16, 2009 9:07 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Leodis McKelvin

Anyone else as disgusted by that as I am? They guy was trying to make a play, whether you think he should have taken the touchback or not. He covered up the ball the way he should have and just took a good licking by some heads up defenders. These things happen. But for cowards like that to take that sort of action just blows me away. Let’s see YOU take that hit. Besides, its not like it ruined your life. All you did was sit on the couch and watch. You still have to go to work in the morning win lose or draw.

You don’t mess with a man’s property or his family. I highly doubt they’d have been that gutsy if he’d been standing there watching them.

Some people’s children. Disgraceful.

by TheMastermind on Sep 16, 2009 9:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

How do they even know where he lives? It was probably Dick Jauron. This is why youngbloods live in condos until they can afford a house in a gated community.

by ELGee on Sep 16, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Kicker Dean Prater followed a 7-for-7 preseason with two field goals in Cincinnati, one from 50 yards. "

add that to the 0-line comment.

by gras on Sep 16, 2009 10:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I was clearly a bit premature in offering my praise there…

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

the CPD said

our offensive line is a problem, citing the Orton and Simms injuries as the evidence. OK, Simms was playing with the second team and got illegally speared (for which the player was fined) when he was injured. Orton had a freak, smash-your hand into the helmet accident (just like Cutler did last year against the Patriots). Doesn’t jive for me.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 16, 2009 11:03 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m not going to update Tracks, but I definitely got ahead of myself in commending Grossi’s article…

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks NYC

Grossi said some good things, but the O-Line comment and Prater’s name just continues to show the ignorance of MSM. You’d think if that was your job you’d; I don’t know, try a little harder to be accurate. Afterall, none of us are paided and we generally do a much better and accurate job when composing pieces.

Carruci’s article was definitely a good read all around. I look forward to many more similar articles on the Broncos in the coming weeks. :-)

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Sep 16, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, Randall

Big oops on my part…

by Douglas A. Lee on Sep 16, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Banks SI story

was good to read. And besides the Chargers/AFC West bit, I’m sure everyone saw his bit on Jay Cutler but here’s a sampling:

Don’t believe the Jay Cutler hype. There were crowds of folks rushing to the conclusion that Cutler made the Bears instant Super Bowl contenders in the NFC, but why, given that Cutler had a losing record as a starter in his Denver career (17-20), and had never taken the Broncos to the playoffs? We got to see right away Sunday night in Green Bay what Denver fans already knew, namely that Cutler can hurt his team in some games much more than he helps it.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 16, 2009 12:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

That was a good read

actually couldn’t disagree with the AFC West bit, either. Denver, KC, and Oakland have all improved, San Diego has slipped. It will be an interesting fight this year! :-)

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 16, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

umm...but not this

From my vantage point, JaMarcus Russell still looks just good enough to get you beat.

Umm…not sure what vantage point that is, but it’s not anywhere close to reality from what I saw.

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 16, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was saying he is good enough to get his own team beat

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 16, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs