Brandon Marshall meets with the media, things get 'Lippy'
So you want to be in the media, covering the Denver Broncos? Hell, it could be any team, but for us it is all about the Broncos. NFL Media Regulations require players to be available to the media once a week. Brandon Marshall declined requests last week, his first week back after his suspension. Something had to give, right?
Today, it did.
Marshall met with the media for two minutes. What happens next is chronicled by Frank Schwab of the Colorado Springs Gazette -
So, Brandon, did you have any making up to do with your teammates upon your return?
"This week, in preparing for Cleveland, it’s going to be tough and we know that," Marshall said. "We’re going to do our best to give it our best shot."
So how close are you to being back to your Pro Bowl form?
"I think Coach (Eric) Mangini is doing a great job with the guys, getting them to do what they’re supposed to do, doing their job, and it’s making it tough on opposing offenses," Marshall said.
The only time Marshall spoke directly to a question was when he said he was completely healthy. Marshall had hip surgery in the offseason and missed a couple of weeks of training camp with a hamstring injury.
"I think I was 100 percent a long time ago," Marshall said.
After a public relations staffer announced that there was one more question before the locker room was closed, Marshall decided he didn’t have time for another answer.
"All right," Marshall said, walking away after the question was done.
At one point, CBS4's Gary Miller actually asked Marshall if he had heard the previous question, prompting CBS4 counterpart Vic Lombardi to Tweet the following -
Gary Miller just got into a lippy exchange with Brandon Marshall in the lockerroom...frankly, made me uncomfortable.
Then this -
Gary wants me to say it wasn't lippy...just contentious...or maybe that's too strong a word as well...awkward?
Schwab's reaction??
... at least it was better than "Next question."
Yes, good times indeed.
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I strongly recommend Brandon
hire a new PR consultant who works with him in manners of dealing with the media, as well as perhaps see a therapist once a week (or day). He went from being very chatty and engaging with media last year to this guy, probably a bit paranoid about the media. He just doesn’t get it, he’s going to look worse in the media if he acts like this.
New PR consultant and therapist Brandon, make it happen.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 17, 2009 12:46 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty indifferent about this...
I don’t think Marshall’s doing anything “wrong” necessarily, although he could have at least answered some questions. Then again, maybe this is exactly what his mentors are telling him to do; keep your mouth shut, go to work, and let the words be said on the field.
Personally, i don’t really care how he responds to the media. It could be worse: He could be throwing KO under the bus like TO did prematurely with Trent Edwards….
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
Oh I'm sure it is
that he was told “keep your mouth shut” but unfortunately he took that too literally, doesn’t understand what that means. I agree, it could be worse, but he’s still not acting like a respectful adult. And he could once again get in trouble for not talking to reporters, which is required.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
do your talking on the field.....
his play last Sunday was even more pedstrian than his interview today.
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein
err pedestrian
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein
"If your going to talk, talk. If your going to shoot, then shoot!" Tuco. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Actually the quote is
“When you have to shoot, shoot! Don’t talk.” Man do I LOVE Beastwood!
If people aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat??
If Marshall doesn't like the MSM
I like him more than I did yesterday. ;-)
by ShawnDenver on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM MDT reply actions 15 recs
And I am with you on that.
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
I am also.
I personally don’t know why the NFL makes these guys talk to the media. In reality these guys are professional football players because they are athletically talented. Not because they are good public speakers. Some are very good or at least fair, but in many cases (like Brandon Marshall) I think they could improve their image (and the NFL’s) by not talking. I know that my opinion of Marshall improves if I hear less from him during the week and see more from him on Sundays.
by Quietone on Sep 17, 2009 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
They are not required to talk with the expectation or hope that they will be "good public speakers."
On the contrary, an interview with Mike Tyson or Paris Hilton would be a disappointment if he/she didn’t say something moronic. The media guys (and the rest of us) love an interview like this one with Marshall. The non responsiveness is a much bigger story than would be an effort in which he had tried to answer each question specifically and earnestly.
Good Lord, the sense of entitlement displayed by the MSM is astounding
Check out the Denver Post’s blog entry on Brandon’s answers:
By ducking reporters and making a mockery of an interview setting, the real people Marshall is insulting are you guys – the fans. Right? Don’t you want to know how Marshall has been affected by the suspension, if he learned his lesson about practice behavior, if he apologized to his teammates and if he’ll be a productive member of this team? You’re the ones who buy his jersey and cheer for him on Sundays.
Yes, BM is insulting us by ducking your asinine questions, Lindsay Jones. Please, call him out on it for our benefit!
by Telluridden on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Denver Post writers don't care one bit
about Broncos fans. Their knickers are in a twist because they didn’t get their soap opera fix today from Brandon.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Sep 17, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
No comment.
Otherwise I might say something rude…
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Exactly.
Even if the questions are pertinent, it’s not like the fate of the nation rests on his candor and sagacity. The reporters (and fans) prob’ly should get over their damn selves.
I still think guys like Cutler and Marshall are prob’ly punks, but I can definitely empathize with a guy for whom things aren’t going well and a bunch of namby-pamby’s are trying to score points of their OWN against him.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Who in the hell is still buying Marshall jerseys?
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
Its also possible
that Brandon feels he was suspended because he talked about the video footage of him on TV. Even if he doesn’t fully believe thats why he got suspended, he could believe it helped, and therefore would be afraid (or is making a point) to say anything to the MSM.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
*yawn
not a big deal. he needs to stop dropping passes
by lolcopter on Sep 17, 2009 12:56 PM MDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd +1
I’ve said this before, I don’t buy into a thing out of his mouth anymore, one way or another. He needs to do his talking on the field. That’s the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. End of story.
by azbroncomaniac on Sep 17, 2009 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
That I really agree with
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Sep 17, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I Think This is Great
The only better thing I would recommend when you don’t want to deal with the media is hire a lawyer to stand next to you and play interference for all questions.
“Brandon how do you feel?”
“Mr. Marshall is very happy to be here and looks forward to playing.”
Look I don’t care about this and I don’t care about the Brady walking off the field thing. The media aren’t there to be your friends.
When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver
Ha ha
It looks to me like Brandon has been studying diligently at the Bill Belichick school of press conference management.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
If the DP were getting all bent out of shape over McD's style of presser,
then I can’t wait to read their reaction to this.
Ahh, but I have boycotted the DP since they went all exclusive with their content. Guess I’ll just have to enjoy what I think they’ll write.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
I have too
If they are going to make it difficult for me to read their stuff, then I will not bother
Oh come on...
If you don’t like the DP you can just read the other paper…
Oh yeah…THERE ISN’T ONE SO THE DP CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT
Suddenly it got cold in here.
by TheMastermind on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The DP and so many other papers
can indeed do what they want (and they do). It used to be you either had to put up with that or do without but those days are gone, as there now are so many other options (this forum being one of them). That is precisely why so many newspapers have gone out of business or are barely holding on.
Newspapers had it very good for a very long time.
Most are still struggling to find a new money-making paradigm. That’s OK. There’s always a market for news and more and more people out there trying to bring it.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
The Brady thing was an even bigger non-story than this
I saw the clip of the one question that he did answer to Kolber and didn’t notice anything out of the norm. granted, I didn’t hear about the exchange leading up to it until later, but those after-game interviews are rarely much more involved than that anyway.
It seems that a side effect of the whole twitter thing is that the reporters are interjecting themselves into the story more. now the story isn’t so much that Brandon Marshall didn’t answer questions, but rather that Vic tweeted that there was an exchange between Marshall and Miller
Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.
by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 17, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
To be fair
I’d love to see a transcript of the entire interview time & especially the last question that was ignored.
Without the full context, it’s hard for me to say that Marshall was being rude.
He got flamed by the media and fan sites for his behavior during the offseason. I don’t blame him for being reticent when it comes to talking to them. Plus, look at the questions:
So, Brandon, did you have any making up to do with your teammates upon your return?
That sounds like someone trying to be able to build a case for “Marshall still at odds with his teammates.”
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
Obviously, he was being baited
by a reporter looking for a quotable quote. The guy was trying to stir up sh*t. The old Brandon might have gotten mad at the guy, justifiably so, but nonetheless giving him something to write about. It sounds like Brandon was following a script, perhaps one given to him by McDaniels or another member of the organization.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Yeah, maybe he was given a script by the guy who told the other players not to be too hapy about marshall's aquittal!
That would be nicely ironic
Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.
by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 17, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
wasnt he summarily dismissed?
"I want this team to be tough, smart and prepared to play well under pressure...Everybody here in this organization is going to be held accountable to do their job — their piece of the puzzle to make this team a competitor for a championship every season." J-Mac
by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
NO - McDaniels is still the head coach!
Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.
by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 18, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Baiting an athlete into saying something stupid
is what the media lives for. Cutler isn’t here so the MSM doesn’t have anybody that will give them a quote so they have to resort to other tactics.
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Yeah there was nothing being asked that would have been
smart for him to answer….
But somehow this will be grabbed by Dave Krieger as McDaniels fault.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Sep 17, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't get it with him sometimes
When the whole Marshall thing was going on before he was suspended, he was saying the right things so I assume he would be told to do the same after the suspension. It is very touchy talking to the media and I assume he doesn’t want to say anything that will get him in trouble.
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
amen to that
And, given the way McDaniels was peppered with leading questions during the Cutler saga (in an obvious attempt to get things said the way the reporters wanted them said), it’s not much of a stretch to believe that the same was happening here — reporters wanting to get a “juicy” story about how Marshall’s still uphappy and at odds with his teammates.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Sep 17, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the first answer was in homage to Coach McDaniels
So, Brandon, did you have any making up to do with your teammates upon your return?
“This week, in preparing for Cleveland, it’s going to be tough and we know that,” Marshall said. “We’re going to do our best to give it our best shot.”
Love the answer. Just give a canned response that doesn’t really say anything. He didn’t even pretend to try to tie it to the question.
by elwayfan on Sep 17, 2009 12:59 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Ya
If I was the coach I would give the player who can work the word “team” the most times into an interview money.
“We have a great team today, they are a good team, but if we play like a team, I think we could be the winning team on Sunday…”
When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver
LOL
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I have to say it
This is the first thing Brandon has done this year that is dead-on 100% what I would do in his shoes. Granted, I wouldn’t be in this spot if I were him, but nevertheless I love him treating the media like that. I would continue it until he either gets a new contract from Denver or he gets traded.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
I don't see a connection between dissing the media and working it for trade/contract value
I agree 1000% that the media is getting what they deserve, I think it sucks that players have to put up with “what kind of tree would you be?” stupidity, but, IMO, how does his ignoring the media and generating more ill will improve his standing with his Coach, the Owner, or around the league? If he violates some dumb media contract provision, the NFL will be presuring Bowlen or McD to suspend or sanction him again which won’t help either cause. He should be a Boy Scout from here on out, poison them with kindness, answer the stupid questions with a canned, equally stupid response and also, not drop anymore passes!!
broncorat
Not a big deal IMO
I could care less how Marshall responds to the likes of Kiszla, Paige, Klis, et al. That question about if he had any "making up to do " was a total bait question. He fulfilled his commitment to the media and now he can get back to work.
All we should care about is how he responds to his teammates and coaches because that’s honestly all that counts.
agreed
All we should care about is how he responds to his teammates and coaches because that’s honestly all that counts.
And that will be demonstrated on the field during the games.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, Take Heart that
we aren’t Buffalo reading over TO’s last interview.
When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver
No kidding
Terrell Owens was up to his old tricks Wednesday, saying “Trent [Edwards] has to better assess what he’s seeing out there and take some shots down the field.”
Well that didn’t take long. Owens caught just two balls on Monday night and Edwards didn’t really look his way very much. Expect the Bills to try to make Owens happy by getting him more involved early on this week. Otherwise, everyone knows there will be a problem
that quote was found here:
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
crud it didn't add the link
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah,
The add a link function is broken for me too, but just pasting it in seems to work.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
thanks for letting me know
now I don’t feel so moronic. :)
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought pasting it in
was the way you were supposed to do it.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Saw that this morning
when they interviewed him on ESPN. Like always Owens failed to mention that he dropped a pass himself. However he never looks at himself as a problem though.
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
no kidding...
the guy that got paid 11 million!! for NOT playing.
How’d Romo do this week BTW?
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions
BM…. He is growing up right in front of our eyes.
Nice job BM. F the media.
Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.
"Free" the media?
Focus the media?
Freeze the media?
Fricassee the media?
Flambe the media?
Okay, I’ll shut up now.
:)
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
How about Fabreeze the media
’Cause they stink
by Royal With Cheese on Sep 17, 2009 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome! ROFL
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions
My wife would be proud
She is a FaBreeze freak, it drives me nuts!
There is no charge for awesomeness, or attractiveness!!
by Bronctillidie on Sep 17, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
good posts today
I half expected the drama queens to come out of the woodwork.
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Last year
I thought this would be a good idea for our o-line to do. They could even hold court each week to nail the guy who came closest to actually answering a question. But with Brandon there’s so much other stuff…here’s hoping.
According to ESPN here are the questions he was asked:
1)Where’s your head at after coming back?
2)Have you knocked off the rust? How are you feeling physically?
3)Did you have a lot of making up to do with your teammates after your insubordination and suspension?
4)How close are you to being the Pro Bowl receiver who had back-to-back 100-catch seasons?
5)Did you not hear the question? How do you feel you’re doing?
6)How long until you become a starter again?
The 1st, 3rd & 6th questions come across as loaded questions. They sound to me like reporters trying to provoke a reaction that they can turn into a story.
Marshall tried to reframe everything to a focus on preparing for Cleveland, and the reporters refused to let him do that. Personally, I don’t blame him for walking out.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
The only way he could have answered any better
would have been with a “No comment.”
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
He was listed as a starter on the broadcast...
But the actual starting formation was a 2 WR, 2 back set, IIRC. I think hillis was in instead of him and the WRs were Gaffney and Royal. of course, in an offense like this, the line up on the opening snap may be irrelevant as there are many other formations used. but he came out of the game on most 3rd downs, which tells me he’s not yet up to speed on the full playbook.
Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.
by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
He is playing and that's good enough for me
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Let's provide Brandon some answers for his next press conference
Q#1: Playbook, practice field, working hard for the Cleveland game. Next question.
Q#2: I worked hard all off season to avoid rust. I feel great. Next question.
Q#3: No I did not. We’re all working hard together getting ready for Cleveland. Next question.
Q#4: You must be confused. I am the Pro-Bowl receiver that had back-to-back 100 catch seasons. Next question.
Q#5: I did and great. Next question.
Q#6: Its Wednesday so that makes it 4 days. No more questions? Thank you.
broncorat
by broncorat on Sep 17, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
the media always goes with the story/angle they are trying to pimp
Marshall is finally getting some good advice…mostly not taking the bait.
good on ’em
the ESPN ‘write up’
thanks for adding the link
don’t I feel dumb for not doing it . . . ;-p
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
ah its very illustrative of how
the media is NOT your friend, is it not ?
eg. they write the story they want to write, regardless.
BM had his ‘teachable moments’ this spring & summer, and apparently, some of it might be getting through to him re: the MSM
eg. they are going to write what they want to write, and the negative always sells. which is why the ESPN article mentions, and i quote -
This summer, Marshall was acquitted of charges he beat up his former girlfriend.
once you know that and can internalize that, you can make sure you give them nothing to drag you down with.
his off field issues are well known, but have nothing to do with preparing for the Cleveland Browns on sunday.
all about the crabs in the bucket, imo.
GOOD FOR HIM
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE HE IS ONBOARD WITH THE BRONCOS. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS KINDA FUNNY.
Hey, I'm encouraged
That sounds like Coach McDaniels talking. So BM is listening
to coach and learning. Way to go, Dude!
What do you think?
I dont really think that he did this to be a pain to the media. I do think that he doesnt want to talk, so he waited until the last minute, which is smart. But heres my thought.
He tries to do something to get traded. It didnt work. Then he acts like a 2 year old at recess during practice and gets suspended. Then, when he comes back hes not the starter, nor a main guy in the offense any more. I think that when he wanted traded and that didnt happen, he tried to show them how much he didnt want to be here, but that didnt work either, just got suspended. Now hes playing at least, because even tho he was a baffoon he still wants to play football. He walks on to the field as a back up, and isnt the main attraction anymore. I think he has seen the error of his ways. Maybe he still wants out, but he has seen how much it has hurt him, even if he wants to remain in Denver. When you have been slapped in the face by life, it is really hard to man up and move on. When life slaps you in the face because of your own ignorance, its even harder.
I think thats where he is at. He’s been slapped. And he’s trying to be a man and move on, but he knows the kind of things the media are going to do and say to make that hard.
What do you all think?
There is no charge for awesomeness, or attractiveness!!
seems to make sense.
i know i wouldnt feel like answering questions about something i needed to move on from.
"I want this team to be tough, smart and prepared to play well under pressure...Everybody here in this organization is going to be held accountable to do their job — their piece of the puzzle to make this team a competitor for a championship every season." J-Mac
by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow
I know B Marsh is paid to play football, not talk to the media; but he’s also paid to be part of a TEAM that’s part of a COMMUNITY. I couldn’t tell if Marshall was trying to be “funny” or sarcastic or what, but he came across like a self-absorbed little boy who won’t play with the neighborhood kids because he thinks he belongs in a better neighborhood. This young man is obviously not stupid but he sure needs to find some new teachers, because the advice he’s getting from his p.r. people is awful … or should I say, “offal.” I’m getting sick of this act, and I live 1,000 miles away from Denver. I have to wonder how Marshall’s team-mates [not to mention coaches and employer] feel.
Ah You Missed It man
Beware the guy that comes to the cameras all smiles and feeling big about himself. That is the one you have to worry about.
When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver
by Kfustud on Sep 17, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
-1
I like it when McD won’t answer leading questions, and I like it when Marshall does too. His job isn’t to give the local rags juicy answers.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Ya gotta admit jibbons
Marshall has a ways to go before he reaches mcDaniels level of evasiveness.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
I agree with those who are saying
that at least two of the reporters were trying to bait Marshall into making a statement that could then be presented as more soap opera drama.
I applaud him for not taking the bait. He came in late to limit the media’s opportunity to dredge up old dirt, was ready to talk about the prep for Cleveland, and left when it became obvious that he was being baited.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough, brontilldie and 42n81. Both points of view are accurate.
Much as they are obviously trying to stir the pot, that’s their job. Brandon doesn’t seem to get that he’s making their job easy – by giving innocuous answers, he can avoid having more negative attention drawn to him. It’s in his own best interest. By giving bizarre answers, much as it does amuse us, he’s guaranteed to receive additional media coverage of what a child he acts like.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
I don't care if the media thinks he's acting like a child,
as long as he doesn’t prove it. The way he went on ESPN and gave us all of his excuses was childish IMO. This was more like, ’I’ll go along with this until you try to make me look bad, or try to drive a wedge between me and the coach.’
I don’t mind when the coach is evasive with the media, and I don’t mind when Brandon is. His job isn’t to cozy up with the writers at the DP and channel 4.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
i don't really get this response bb
Tom Brady is running off the field and ignores the sideline talking head (Kolber) that chases him as he attempts to shake hands with his peers, so should we lambaste him for being aloof or being childish ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24rxTwwDrgc
after all, she’s just doing her job, right ?
granted, he eventually stops and attempts to answer her question, but assuming he doesn’t, does the media get a blank cheque to write whatever they want to ?
meh bad example i guess. its Tom Brady.
move along.
Kolber's question...
Was even the same Journalism 101 question reporters have been asking since the dawn of time…
“How does it feel to…”
Yawn. I am not sure what Brady’s deal was; meybe he’s just as bored with that question as I am. I was a little suurprised at the standoffishness, but I’d have sent him a cheese wheel if he’d just said:
“I don’t know, how do YOU feel when you get off work?”
by TheMastermind on Sep 17, 2009 2:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
See above, Jenna
If Marshall makes it easy to make an issue out of vaporware, he’s just playing into what they want from him. I’m not defending the media. the other side is, Marshall got himself into this by not acting in an adult or sensible manner. If he wants to have it stop, this isn’t the way to do it.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
i agree, bear.
media hatred aside, this guy’s got a long history of jackass-ness and i don’t feel it’s real important to defend his actions anymore. the media’s not always great and likable, but in this case it looks like they’re doing their job. what are they supposed to ask him: what did you think of stokely’s catch? talk about bland information.
i’m sure i’m going beyond what you’re saying bear, but to get back to your point, marshall is acting childish and he’s the one designing his press personna, not vice versa. just give your flat answers to the questions if you don’t like them and move on.
posting in all caps is considered to be bad manners
and since you just joined today and maybe don’t know this, just a friendly reminder.
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many regulars skip posts like this, and your thoughts are then not ‘heard’
counterproductive if you want to be ‘heard’
Marshall is not nearly as deep as many of you suggest
He handled the interview in his pouting juvenile way for one reason only: To demonstrate (without getting into trouble for saying the wrong thing or for not being available) that he is still unhappy and that he is only doing what he does because he has to. He should just be suspended indefinitely. I don’t trust HE would have made a serious attempt at catching that tipped pass for the winning score.
only time will tell
whether he’s acting out of a petulant “I’ll do only what I’m told” attitude, or if he is beginning to buy into the system, or at least willing to act as though he has bought in so that he can be on the field contributing.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Very strange stuff.
Vic and Gary will most assuredly cover this in detail tomorrow morning on their radio show. They’re on 1600 AM, the ESPN affiliate here local to CO anyway. Not sure how far that signal goes.
And even though they are MSM, they are much more objective IMO than folks like Sandy Clough and the other local radio schmucks.
by Gristle McThornbody on Sep 17, 2009 3:09 PM MDT reply actions
excellent point in your last sentence.
we’re not talking kisla or (worse) bernie lincicomb (sp?) here. gary and vic are firmly in the pocket of the denver broncos and have never been out to stir trouble. if they get too uppity, the broncos would pack up and deal with a different local network on broncos terms. if anything, over the years broncos affiliates are pretty softball. even with tough questions, they tend to give easy outs and positive slants for the interviewee.
It seemed rude to me.
Obviously the media can be rude on all sorts of levels, but to basically ignore the questions and give unrelated answers is not mature behavior. It certainly doesn’t inspire confidence that he has adjusted his attitude at all. He is becoming a real focus of negative energy. Attracting attention when you’re trying to keep unobtrusive is really messed up. Sometimes even negative attention satisfies the desire for any attention
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
I think the questions they asked are a huge story
This is a team game and Bronco offensive performance is dependent partly upon the interaction of its offensive players. Therefore, friction among the players is not only relevant, it’s a huge story – especially considering the woeful offensive performance against the Bengals.
I’ve heard rumors for years that Brandon is crazy. Apparently, he’s a prick as well.
A sign of remorse would be
a willingness to talk about it, at least one time. I don’t see remorse, which concerns me . . .
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
Guys, I always get to these post later than you
and I have no clue what to think about these comments. Either:
1) He is getting in line with the McD way of talking to the media
or
2) He bottling some things up inside that are still unresolved
I have no idea which. I would like to see some video so I could read his body language.
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
This is very hard to judge without access to the vocal tones of the answers,
but look closely at BMarsh’s responses to the questions:
1)Where’s your head at after coming back?
We’re preparing for Cleveland . . . That can easily be read as an answer — my mnind’s with the team and preparing for the upcoming game.
2)Have you knocked off the rust? How are you feeling physically?
I’m feeling good. I’m doing everything I can to prepare . . . Again, he answers the question and tries to put the focus on the preparation for Cleveland.
3)Did you have a lot of making up to do with your teammates after your insubordination and suspension?
This week, you now, in preparation . . . The ESPN report indicates that he stammered at this point. I can see how the question could have thrown him. The inclusion of “insubordination” and “suspension” were contentious at the very least. Twice he tried to focus on how he was preparing for the upcoming game, and now one tries to put the focus on the bad.
4)How close are you to being the Pro Bowl receiver who had back-to-back 100-catch seasons?
Coach Magini . . . At this point, Marshall appears to be losing his composure. The first two answers appeared to show that he came in ready to talk — albeit because he was required to — but ready to talk about the preparations for Sunday’s game. The media wanted to drag him back into the preseason events.
5)Did you not hear the question? How do you feel you’re doing?
Oh I’m doing good . . . I think I was 100 percent a long time ago. I’m just taking the time now just to prepare myself for each week. And this week is Cleveland.
For a third time, he provided an answer to the question.
6)How long until you become a starter again?
This is where he walked out, as the reporter again tried to drag him back into an area of ill-will — that he had lost his starting position due to his antics.
I may be in the minority here, but I see Marshall’s responses as a player who, either by direction or choice, tried to limit the opportunities for himself to say something stupid, came in prepared to talk about how he was preparing for his next game, and was hit with contentious questions aimed at dragging him back into the pain of the offseason.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 3:55 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Exactly, thank you
Week 1: DEN 12 CIN 7
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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
While I'm not a mind reader
BMarsh does not seem to be happy. He, more than most players, is all about emotion. While this can get him into trouble a time, it also feeds his performance. I see a guy going through the motions and for an emotional player like BM, I am concerned that if his heart isn’t in it, we will not see the same player we have seen the last few years. I would love to see him smile and have fun again playing a kids game.
That interview is about control....
Marshall has obviously read what most writers have said about his situation and his behavior: that he’s childish and in the wrong. That he needs to grow up. (The only people I saw/heard supporting him were a few former players, like Michael Irvin.)
Because of NFL rules, he’s being forced to submit himself to questioning at the hands of people he doesn’t trust, and that overall, he despises. If he doesn’t answer their questions, he gets fined.
He probably views it as humiliating. The only control he has in this situation are his answers. He can’t control the questions he’s asked, and he sure as heck isn’t going to answer them sincerely, because he believes the media feasts on sincerity, and twists those answers into whatever falsities they want.
So, he grabs control of the questions away from the media, and answers his own questions. He is trying to belittle the media the same way that he feels they’ve belittled him.
This interview has nothing to do with the Broncos or Josh McDaniels — it’s about Brandon Marshall and his relationship with the media.
Michael Vick acted
in a manner far worse than Brandon did at practice. He is man enough to own up to what he did and answer the media’s questions about it.
so you think Marshall didn't respond correctly?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Sep 17, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Hope "All right" makes it onto a Coors light ad!
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by littletinybroncos on Sep 17, 2009 4:18 PM MDT reply actions
It looks to me
Like he wasn’t avoiding the questions at all, he just didn’t give very coherent answers. Probably because it’s a little bit of a tough subject. I’ll bet he DOES want to make this up to his teammates, but he realizes that talk is cheap. Only getting it done on the FIELD and in practice will mean anything. With that in mind, check out these responses to the questions:
Question:
Did you have a lot of making up to do with your teammates after your insubordination and suspension?
Answer:
“Well, I mean, this week, you know, in preparing for Cleveland …” Marshall stammered, “it’s going to be tough, we know that. And we’re going to do our best to give it our best shot.”
Check it out. He started in talking about the game ahead, BUT THEN SWITCHES TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Read the portion after he stammers, and take it as a direct response to the question.
No doubt it’s going to be tough for him to win the locker room back, right? But he’s giving it his best shot. I think if he were talking about the game, he’d give a more confident answer than “we’ll give it our best shot”.
Question:
How close are you to being the Pro Bowl receiver who had back-to-back 100-catch seasons?
Answer:
“Uh, I think Coach Mangini is doing a great job with the guys, just getting them to do what they’re supposed to do, do their job, and it’s making it tough on opposing offenses.”
Question:
Did you not hear the question? How do you feel you’re doing?
Answer:
“Oh, I’m doing good,” Marshall said. “I think I was 100 percent a long time ago. I’m just taking the time now just to prepare myself for each week. And this week is Cleveland.”
I wonder here if he actually DIDN’T hear the original question, because when the reporter re-phrases it, he answers the question DIRECTLY. He also stammered before he gave the canned answer about preparing for Cleveland, leading you to believe that he didn’t quite understand (literally) the question. He wasn’t avoiding the original question, otherwise he wouldn’t have answered it directly the second time it was asked.
As for the end of the interview where he supposedly ‘walked out’, if you read the transcript, a PR staffer ACTUALLY ended the interview, not Brandon. I think we’re all reading a little too much into his supposed bad attitude here.
What a douche
I’m quite pleased that he’ll be little more than a decoy this year while much classier human beings like Eddie Royal and Jabar Gaffney reap the benefits.
Big Question ?
The NFL media regulations require players to be aviable to the media once a week
How is that rule possible when we had a whole offensive line who refused to talk to
the media for years ?
If Marshall Dont want to speak Why should he have to ?
The offensive line didnt have to UNLESS !
Were they being fined by the leauge all those years ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 17, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions
if I remember right
the rule about speaking to the media came after our O-line had spent a large number of years not talking to the media.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
yqw, I don't remember us ever getting fined for it
I do remember our O-line being really po’d at being required to talk to them.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Sep 17, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Mabey they were being fined and pooled there money together to pay for it ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 17, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought they elected 1 lineman to speak for the entire group?
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
As of now the nuts-and-bolts football article has 34 comments...
…and the Marshall pile-on is at 147. I hope BM isn’t as much of a distraction in the lockerroom as he is with us fans.
He’s just a dude— and a young one at that.. And whether his problems are self inflicted or not, standing in front of those guys has to be tough. I’d be angry, but even more humiliated, so I give him props for having the ’nads to do his duty.
It can’t be fun to be BM right now.
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 17, 2009 7:12 PM MDT reply actions
Sensationalism
Bingo Predominantly Orange. You beat me to post on the obvious. After reading all these posts, it is abundantly clear why the press were baiting him. It’s all about selling soap (as they used to say about TV).
Back to the nuts and bolts, I recall a casual mention somewhere in the bazillion posts above about B Marsh drawing attention away from Royal and Gaffney.
What about the “miracle play” last Sunday?
Wasn’t it made possible by B Marsh drawing triple coverage and thus Stokes was wide open? Granted, the ball wasn’t thrown to Stokes, but simply having him on the field at all, however “distracted” (or rusty IMHO), B Marsh was a weapon that help the TEAM win the game.
As far as the “presser”, it’ll sell and draw eyeballs to the MSM (and here probably), but he is only one of fifty three. Maybe it’ll get the Cleveland defenders to pay more attention to him while Eddie streaks up the sideline for a 50 yard TD?
Jeff Zepp, Kittredge CO USA
I really like Brandon's responses to these obvious
bait questions. His answers show that he is willing to keep the focus on the team and not continue to be a distraction by answering questions that focus solely on him.
No I do not think he acted like a child; quite the opposite in fact. I believe his reponses show a willingness to mature into a more team oriented player. Is he there yet? No. Just like he’s not a Top-20 WR, he must continue to grow into the team player role. But by keeping the focus on the team instead of the past shows me a willingness to move forward.
I honestly hope he answers nearly every question this year in the same or similar manner. It would give me more confidence that maybe he really could develop into this top flight WR many people prematurely believe he is.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
I COULD CARE LESS HOW HE INTERVIEWED!!
It’s what he does on the field that concerns me. Was I the only one scratching my head after his performance. I found myself replaying every play or drop he was in on just to see how he interacted with the team. I’m not seeing it, or perhaps I’m being overly critical but he has to ball with some intensity and passion and I just didn’t see it. Hope I’m over the top and just imagining things. Did anybody else see it the same way??
Question
Do you guys still want this clown? If not what would you consider fair compensation for him? Be honest no homertude allowed
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Yes. I do still want this clown.
Why? Because his attitude towards the very people that were slandering him throughout his suspension. He’s a good player, and a good person. He’s been misguided quite a bit. However, he’s an emotional guy. He speaks from the heart on everything. That’s why the highs are very high, and the lows are very low. To my knowledge, he didn’t freak out on a reporter. He kept his composure, and avoided the loaded questions. There is nothing wrong with that. Period.
As far as I’m concerned, he’s smart for not saying a word about what happened. He’s keeping it all on the task at hand, and I could care less how many MSM pundits get pissed off about it.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
by Joe Medina on Sep 18, 2009 2:58 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm no fan
of the “media,” per se; but, guess what? I need them! I read MHR, I read the Denver Post, I read other sites, because that’s where I get my information on the Broncos. Living, as I do, right between St. Louis and Kansas City, most of the media attention is focused on the Rams and Chiefs; so sites like MHR are like gold to me. I don’t know if “all” reporters try to “bait” people or not; but I do know they are providing me with insight and information I don’t think I could get without them. When McDaniels is evasive, fair and good — we don’t want our opponents learning anything; but when a player acts the way Marshall did, I feel as he’s just giving me the finger.
So...
would you prefer that he take the bait and say something like “just throw ME the #### ball” or “I don’t owe nonody nuthin” or how about “Where’d Jay go anyway” My point is, as many have referred to here, you don’t really get any news from these dog and pony shows unless the press manages to stir something up. BM is on a very short leash and cannot afford to stir up any controversy.
"as in football so in life"

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