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A Pitch for Goose Gonsoulin

In the off season Denver acquired what many feel is the best modern day safety in the history of the game of professional football. Brian Dawkins is the example for all other safety wannabe’s to follow. He is tough, athletic, full of character and a team leader. He has a team first mentality and is worthy of every accolade heaped upon him. In spite of all that he remains grounded and humble. He is a thirteen year veteran and is a seven time Pro-Bowl selection. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is worthy of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Dawkins reminds me a great deal of a safety we had years ago. His name was "Goose" Gonsoulin. Austin William "Goose" Gonsoulin (born June 7, 1938 in Port Arthur, Texas) was the original Denver Bronco, selected first in the 1960 season. At the end of his Bronco career, he was the all-time American Football League leader in interceptions with 40. He made the first interception ever in the American Football League, in the first AFL game against the Boston Patriots. He had seven interceptions in his first three games, and his 11 pickoffs in 1960 are still a Denver club record. He shares the team record for interceptions in a game with four, a feat he accomplished 18 September 1960 at Buffalo.

Star-divide

Gonsoulin was a Sporting News AFL All-League player in 1960, 1962, and 1963, and an AFL Western Division All-Star in 1961, 1964 and 1966. His amazing durability and toughness enabled him to start 61 consecutive games at one point in his career. He was also the captain of his college team at Baylor.

I thought it might be interesting to compare Goose with Brian Dawkins in terms of stats. I figured some of you might be interested in two more Bronco great Safeties. I included Bill Thompson and Steve Atweater.

 

                                                Goose              Dawkins           Atwater            Thomson

Seasons                                         8                     14                    11                     12

Games                                          108                 183                  167                   179

Interceptions                                   46                   34                   24                      40

Int. Return Yds.                            551                  515                 408                   784

Yds. Per Int Return                       12                    15.1                 17                     19.6

Touchdowns on Int.                        3                      2                      1                       3

Forced Fumbles                               *                    32                      6                       *

Sacks                                                 *                     21                      5                       *

* = Forced Fumbles and Sacks were not recorded in these years.

 

My point is this. Goose was our first ever really good player. The voting for the Bronco 50 year team is drawing to a close. Friday Sept. 4th is the last day for voting. I am blatantly putting in a pitch for Goose. If you have not voted, I urge you to put Goose in as one of the Safeties. I wish I had some video or some slick media to show you all how exciting he was. After the first three or four games of his career teams stayed away from Goose. Denver had a player.In my opinion he played on a level with Atwater, Thompson and Dawkins. If you want to vote go to     http://www.denverbroncos.com/50th/

Our friend Zappa stated it best. "Denver has a long trdition of outstanding play at the Safety position.". It all started with Goose. I am sure Goose would appreciate your vote. He has mine.

 

 

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Thanks firstfan. I got to see these guys play, and they were amazing. Goose was a bright light to the play of that era – I hope he gets all the credit that he so richly deserves. They talk about players who changed the game – Goose changed every game he was ever in. Take the time and vote!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 2, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good words broncobear

those were really a bunch of tough guys in those days.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 2, 2009 6:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

As I recall

There were only 33 players on those early AFL rosters. Had to be tough in those days. Think about it – 22 starters and 11 spots for backups and kickers.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 3, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, just think about it.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...

That’s why you had players like Gene Mingo who was both a running back and the place kicker. And Bob Scarpeto, who was a very good reciever and a great punter.

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Sep 3, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alan!

I didn’t know you were an old fart too!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then you missed his

post about why he is a fan HAHA

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 3, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Goose was a great player, and is clearly a great person

He’s also a friend of MHR, incidentally. Goose gets my vote, and this FanPost gets my Rec

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Sep 3, 2009 10:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Ted

Coming from you that really mens a lot.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

5th rec'd

Goose definitely needs to get a nod.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Sep 3, 2009 10:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The #9

…recd. Also, the chart shows off Billy T too…one of the semi-unsung from his day!!!

Nice post!!

by MHFan4Life on Sep 3, 2009 11:21 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Smith belongs on there too. We really do have a tradition at Safety. Maybe even Lynch.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's guys like Goose...

That should remind all of us that we needn’t settle for questionable character men on this football team. Solid post and worth of Front Page status!

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by John Bena on Sep 3, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Guru.

btw, I am wearing my MHR Tee with pride!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Character...

you means guys who would smoke a cigarette while the offense was on the field, run out there and intercept a pass and come back to the sidelines for a drink from the flask? I’ve heard some stories about ole Goose…not sure I can verify any of them though. heh Different breed of men back then…tougher I think. Guys like Goose, Lionel Taylor, Tombstone Jackson….different breed man. Tough as nails. No crying to mama for a bigger paycheck or if a coach is hired you don’t like.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point Zappa.

No doubt about it though. Pretty or not, these were men!

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 3, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is

smoking or drinking a problem with character? thats what I hate about things today. I man can’t enjoy a drink or a smoke while playing in a professional sport…..I mean come on!!!! its not like its going to affec……….oh…right…..Griese couldn’t even drink while NOT playing and stay healthy HAHAHAHAHA. but man do I miss the good old days when being tough as nails was normal and not frowned upon. Things are much different now.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Sep 3, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm recommending this article also.

One of my pet peeves about honors like the Broncos 50 year team is that older players get a short shrift. There are a lot of reaons. Lets face it. A lot of the people who were around to see the Goose play, just aren’t around anymore, and those who are might not be techno-savy enough to even be on this site, much less vote for the older players. Add to that the overwhelmig number of younger fans on this site and players like him are bound to be overlooked. Not that I blame younger fans. They never saw him play and so they don’t have a reasonable method of measuring his abilities. It’s only natural to vote for the players they have seen with their own eyes.

So I guess it’s up to us older fans to make the history come alive. Only that brings up another point. I have my Bowlen moments when I try to remember the oldest games.

What I can still do is reason and speculate. One thing I find remarkable is that his interception per season record still stands fifty years later. Now that is something amazing, especially in a age when records seem to die every week. Another thing I find kind of amazing is that these early Broncos teams were, well, not the best teams. It was easy for an opposing team to just avoid Goose. As sterling as his numbers look, can you imagine what those numbers could have been like if the rest of the defense was strong enough so that the opposition couldn’t avoid him?

I know that’s probably not enough to get him onto the fifty year team but he is worth a closer look. Too bad we couldn’t pick “All the above”.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 3, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions   4 recs

Good points Professor.

Thanks

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get points. rec'd yo comment sir. ;-)

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, gentlemen.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 3, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Power of the MHR

I guess Goose saw the post on the MHR and he sent me an email. This is in typical Goose style. I didn’ty get his permission to publish it, but we are all pretty much family here on the MHR.

DON, I JUST READ YOUR LETTER AND YOU SAID IT BEST >>I, GOOSE, AM PROUD TO HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE BEST DB SAFETY ON THE BRONCOS >> WE HAVE HAD MANY GOOD ONES> AND MY RECORDS STAND UP TO THEIRS > BUT IT’S HARD TO BRAG ON YOURSELF. DON , THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING FOR ME >> I DO NOT WANT TO LET DENVER DOWN WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE THE 50YR TEAM . I WOULD LOVE TO BE CALLED> WE PLAYED AT DIFFERENT TIMES, ON DIFFERENT TEAMS SO ITS HARD FOR FANS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEM ME PLAY TO VOTE BUT LOOK AT THE STATS YEARS PLAYED>> I AM THE ORGINAL BRONCO. I WAS IN TRAINING CAMP IN GOLDEN 1960 AND THE LAST PLAYER TO LEAVE AND I WENT TO THE NFL AND THE FIRST AFL’er TO START FOR A NFL TEAM . THE LAST GAME I PLAYED IN, WE BEAT THE COWBOYS >> 1960 I PLAYED FOR THE BRONCOS , THEY NEEDED A DB, I WAS THE FIRST PLAYER TO INTERCEPT A PASS IN THE AFL> I GOT 7 IN 3 GAMES AND FINISH WITH 11, STILL A RECORD> THINGS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THAT FIRST YEAR>> I WENT INTO THE ARMY RESERVES FOR SIX MONTHS> THE NEXT YEAR, I GOT CALL BACK FOR THE BERLIN CRISES, FOR 7 MONTHS< MY FIRST YEAR AT DENVER< I WAS PAID $8’500.00. MY MOM AND DAD NEVER OWNED A HOUSE SO I PUT UP MONEY TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOUSE AND PAID THE NOTES AND THAT MADE ME SO PROUD> I NEVER MADE MORE THAN $18,000 WITH DENVER BUT IT GIVES ME GOOSE BUMPS WHEN FANS LIKE DON STAND UP FOR ME> I LOVE THE BRONCOS AND PAT BOWLIN IS SUCH A GREAT MAN FOR KEEPING US IN THE BRONCO FAMILY>> THANKS DON AND YOU BRONCO FANS. I WAS A PLAYER COACH MY LAST FEW YEARS THERE AND MY GREATEST WISH WAS TO STAY WITH THE BRONCO FAMILY AS A COACH!

Like I said in my post. Goose has my vote. And we have had a whole bunch of really good Safeties.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 12:12 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Goose is a character for sure. I count myself lucky to be on his mailing list!

He is quite perturbed by the fact that some guy with half the career stats that Goose has was voted over him onto the All-AFL Team. The guy, can’t remember his name, came from the Buffalo Bills and let’s face it. Three teams get all the credit from the AFL days, the Chiefs, Raiders and Bills. It’s lame, but part of the way it is with the 1960’s Broncos…hell its still that way with the Broncos today in the Hall of Fame.

I really hope Goose gets onto the Broncos 50th Team, but I fear its too late to get him on the list. Too many good to great safeties came after him…the younger generation will vote accordingly. I ranked Goose third on my list, but that’s because I too am relatively young(30) and I put Billy Thompson and Steve Atwater on the list. I

If I could recast my vote, I might have gone with Atwater and Goose instead. Even though Thompson was a fixture in the secondary for over a decade and played well for us…I just don’t know. So many great players…. Goose has the oldest record in Broncos history…the oldest… Not even Champ Bailey has more INT in a season…a 16 game season at that!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goose and Lionel Taylor were the only two stars we have from 1960-1966.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might throw Tripuka into that mix.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 3, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Frank was pretty good.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only because the rest of the QBs from then til the late 70's sucked!

Frank was alright, but he wasn’t dominating….in my mind he wasn’t anyways. Way too many INTs

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unitas?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tarkington

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starr?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Namath?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hadl?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH! I know...

Y.A. Title(sp?), Roger Staubach, Sonny Jurgensen, Sammy Baugh, etc.?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa's comment

Limited to Broncos QB’s? But even then he’s forgetting Charley Johnson

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Broncos QBs man. lmao

Charley Johnson was okay, but even he threw more INT than TDs.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 4, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the AFL

always played 14 games in 1960 the NFL played 12 as they had the prior 12 years or so, but with expansion in 1961 the NFL went to 14 games like the AFL.
Denver has had 4 awesome safeties in their existence that played the majority if not their entire career in Denver, Goose, Atwater, D. Smith and Thompson. It is so hard for me to pick 2 of those 4 for the all time team.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 3, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

80s kid here

After reading this post, I went to the site and voted for Goose followed by all the best players of the 80s and 90s – Zimm, Elway, Meck, Fletch, Atwater, Sharpe, TD etc. etc. Never heard of “Goose” til now. He and Floyd Little (Syracuse Alumni like me) were the only players I voted for who I have never seen before. Best wishes to Goose.

by cuseindahuse on Sep 3, 2009 1:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

cuseindahouse

you just made my day! If I raised awareness of one youngster like you then I did my job! Thank you!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Gonsoulin

But it helped create the delima when it came to altime safties. We have had Gonsoulin, Steve Atwater, Bille Thompson and of course Dennis Smith. How do you ever come up with only two from that group without dissing the other two underservadly?

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Sep 3, 2009 1:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

And that is the conunmdrum

I went with Goose simply because he didn’t get the accolades the others did.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just picture Dennis Smith getting burned in the 86 AFC Championship game and also in the Super Bowl. :P

Then it’s narrowed down to 3…

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 3, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gonsoulin

was a pretty crazy guy out there. I’ve been trying to remember the story behind the nickname Goose but I can’t bring it up.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 3, 2009 2:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he got it

before he played football. I’ll ask him.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 3, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't a gosling a young goose and since his name is close...?

Just thinking.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 3, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the post firstfan...

….‘Goose’ was a hero of mine as a kid and my favorite all-time defensive player. I have also been trying to get members to vote for Goose.

Thanks again.

Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Sep 3, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You are more than welcome.

Your sig says it all my friend.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 4, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goose and Atwater

Were who I had to narrow it down to. That’s a tough call, but….

Thanks for the post, rec’d
 - And rec’d the letter from Goose too, thanks for sharing that as well.

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 4, 2009 10:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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