Your Call - Brandon Marshall for David Harris and a 3rd-Round Pick

I think Harris + at least a 3rd round pick is fair enough.

I was encouraged when I heard that Marshall was again listening to Rod Smith. Could it be that the suspension woke him up and he’s now going to apply himself?

I think we’d be able to tell in short order if that was going to happen. If he straightens up, keep him, if not, trade him.

id pretty much take any decent trade offer right now. might as well get some value before we lose him in FA

Davis is old and slow, and Harris is a young, athletic playmaker who does his job and keeps his mouth shut. What once was a liability (covering the middle zone) instantly becomes a strength. All for the price of a guy who probably won’t play anyway. Plus more ammo and more leverage in the draft? It’d be a win-win for both sides, but I think we’d come out with more win. And we still have Eddie, who is worth 5 of Brandon.

And does the comment box look smaller to everyone else??

Might he unseat Haggan as the LOLB?

get rid of Marshall and get a faster LB and more depth in the future? May as well do it.

So I suppose I’d make the deal as is.

I voted yes in the poll, but only from an onfield perspective. Off the field, I’m concerned the message this sends to potential future players. Their perception may be they can come to Denver, take the money, put up a fuss and get traded if things don’t go how they hope.

As far as Marshall goes, I say let him come back from suspension, monitor his actions and attitude (he’s already alienated the locker room so he’ll get no sympathy) and then follow league advised suspension policies. This way, I believe, the organization can maintain a posititve perception across the league and avoid becoming the Raiders

They seem to be pretty good in their own right.

I like Harris. I thought he was a very solid player coming out of Michigan. His reports were that hes a hard working leader.

If Gaffney hadn’t gotten hurt Id say we should do this trade in a heartbeat, but it worries me greatly that hes out. All in all this seems like the best deal possible for Marshall. After his tirade during practice I kinda felt we would be lucky to get a second or third round pick alone for Marshall.

This is a rebuilding year and picking up Harris will allow our D to get younger, more athletic, and have a potential starter at the position for many more years.

Problem is….will the jets make this trade?

What’s your take on this trade rumor in light of the Broncos announcing that they want the NFL to investigate the Jets for tampering?

please. How can Marshall fit in after the other players’ comments…not to suggest the comments were anything but appropriate. Just get what you can and begin building a team.

and I don’t know much about Harris, but I just think Marshall makes a bigger difference to our offense than Harris would to our D (as compared with who we have now—Davis, Larsen, etc…). Of course this presupposes we’re going to get Marshall’s full effort, but I voted NO. I may be seeing this with blinders on, but I still have hope that Marshall could screw his head back on and contribute over the long haul….

I said no, because I don’t know a thing about Harris and I think we need a 2 or a 1.

But after reading the comments, people seem to think highly of Harris… and a 3 never hurts… so, I’m starting to like it.

It sure would be nice to never have to worry about BM again.

I think Spencer Larsen can fill this role if Davis is not up for it and want to see him on the field.

I’d rather have Andra Davis be backing up Spencer Larsen than getting rid of Marshall for Harris.

BMarsh is an elite player. Harris seems like a solid young defensive player, but the impact to the team is greater with BMarsh.
I would take Harris plus a second and a third/ or forth round pick. Otherwise keep BMarsh. The CBA is not going to get renewed which would allow us to keep him again next year on the cheap OR if he signed away get a 1st & 3rd round pick.
The relative value just doesn’t seem equal to me. Plus with our injuries we have WR depth issues now.

because on the one hand I’d rather keep Marshall IF he’s going to end up playing, because the offense could really use him (again, IF he plays and knows what he’s doing re the playbook). on the other hand, even if he stays with Broncos now and plays, you get the sense that the odds of him being re-signed and brought back long term after this season are slim in which case they’d get nothing for losing him. They could use a good player plus a draft pick. So… this is why I’m torn.

I like hearing he’s working with Rod Smith. I’d rather they keep him and get some good games out of him, so I’m leaning towards “no.”

But I think this deal would be about as good as they could get right now and would rid them of a headache.

apparantly Marshall is on his way to NY

But only because I’m vindictive and I want to see his ass sit all season long.

“There are no discussions whatsoever taking place between the Denver Broncos and any team in the National Football League regarding Brandon Marshall. We are looking forward to having Brandon back on the sixth of September and starting our preparation for Cincinnati with him.”

But we know how he said something similar in the “Other” situation we had……..and we know how that ended

definitely

Just because my initial thoughts on preseason have been that the defense has come a long way from last year and the offense struggles at times.

I think Marshall might help the O more than Harris would help the D, but after reading all the comments, I don’t know if I would’ve voted the same.

It seems like a wash now. The O can get by without Marshall, but he would surely make them better. The D can get by without Harris, but he would make them better too.

Also, keep in mind, that the Broncos still hold all the cards. If they don’t get exactly what they want now they can keep him. If theres no CBA by the end of the season, he’s a restricted free agent and he’s still ours. If there is a CBA, he becomes unrestricted but we could franchise him which would ensure we get at least a 1 and 3 for him.

What is going on in Denver? The Coach, the “Boss” says unequivocally in his interview on Denverbroncos.com Wednesday that “there are absolutely no discussions what so ever” with other teams concerning Marshall and trades talk (3:26 – 3:40) and now your saying the new head coach is a bald face liar?!!! Wow this isn’t good news period!!! I don’t care if Marshall is traded for a couple of beans that turn into a beanstalk but a head coach bald face lying, hmmmm maybe the Cutler thing isn’t everything we have been told. Maybe there is more to the story. What the heck is going on? Can’t we all just get on the same page? Losing Cutler while painful is done losing another pro-bowl player is something that should be looked at seriously. I’m on board for a little bit of diplomacy. OK I don’t agree with the way Marshall has been acting but all of a sudden I’m not 100% sure about HCMcD anymore either. Not that I am a hater, I just don’t understand…

Just feels to me like if we’re going to get rid of Marshall, we should be looking for a strong QB in the Trade. Our defense randomly doens’t seem like the worst of our problems at the moment. Maybe we should hit up the Viks for TJackson???

Marshall is little more than drama and headaches at this point. David Harris is one of the top 3 ILBs for a 3-4 system in the entire league (I would put Scott and Meyo ahead of him…but his star is rising fast).

The upgrade on defense would be a full magnitude greater than the downgrade on offense, of that I have no doubt at all. Harris is a tackling machine, a solid hitter who can drop into coverage in a pinch, but who excels at stopping the run. He is faster than any of our current SLBs, but would clock at around a 4.5 or so at best, so still not a blazer. OF course, if you’ve been paying attention to MHRU, you know that his job won’t be to run sideline to sideline. He is very strong and very physical, and was always good at stacking and shedding at Michigan. he was worth every iota of the second rounder the Jets spent on him (47th overall). I would LOVE to see this guy playing next to DJ, the versatility of our base formation just doubled (if we get him!)

Per this fanpost this is what the Broncos are asking for…
We will even throw in Andre Davis to replace Harris for the NYJ.
If this is the deal then I would be happy. Anything significantly less and the Broncos will get hammered in the media (per usual – but i don’t know how much more I can take from those MSM clowns).

What if and this a HUGE what if.. Coach Jedi and BMarsh had this all worked out so the rest of the NFL thinks our team is in turmoil. This way they don’t really take us serious and then we come out 5-0 before the fluke comment change to watch out for Denver.. TEHn on to winning the rest. He would need a little advantage until his system is gelin. And all this time, in a secret base, Bmarsh is practicing with the !st team. I know it sounds crazy But Both are young and would be fun as a new team… Just saying maybe, I like the idea of our new young coach is fun and creative..

 GO BRONCOS

last year he was well on his way to duplicating those numbers when he tore a groin muscle in the KC game in October. Without that tear (and subsequent surgery) we would have got to see him when the Jets played the Broncos. He leaves a memorable impression on his opponents…
 I also read that he broke his ankle int eh final game of 2008…didn’t know about that… most recently he got hit int he outh by a helmet (errant punt return player) and had to get stitches for that…he might even have an intimidating facial scar! He leaves a memorable impression on his opponents…

So far he has been awesome in preseason and has an INT to set up a TD. he also led the Jets in sacks his rookie year…nothing wrong with that. I want!

Have you all forgotten how explosive The Beast is with the ball in his hands?! The first guy never tackles him. Our D already looks much improved, and the offense looks to me to be on track, but having Marshall is a HUGE difference maker. A good linebacker is nice, but just does not have the impact on the outcome of the game that 15 can. Please, please keep BMarsh or at least get more for him than a player and a 3rd!

It would be a heck of a lot harder to draft another BMarsh caliber WR than it would be to find a Harris caliber LB- and not just because BMarsh is a better player than Harris. WR’s have a tremendously high washout rate in the early rounds. LB’s, not so much…

Would you rather have a dominant defense or offense

… a few weeks ago, when we discussed this in depth, who did catch a lot of balls, but rarely broke away for big gains. A good player, but not essential.

And we still don’t know about the health of his hip, especially long-term.

I’d say, take the deal. Marshall has too much baggage here. A good, young ILB is a rare commodity.

My only concern is that we look like we’re turning into the Bears, circa last season (a better defense than offence). Lucky we got the offensive-minded coach!

why do I get the feeling that there is an underlying assumption that this is a bona fide trade offer?

From what I’ve read three facts are known:

1)McDaniels said the Broncos are not talking to anyone about a trade.
2)It was reported that the Jets were interested.
3)Someone in the FO made it clear what Denver would want for Marshall.

I have yet to hear anyone say that there have been phone calls going on between Denver and New York.

I fail to see how #2 & #3 invalidate #1 and make McDaniels a liar.

Mile High Report

Gang Green Nation

Just something to think about. Imagine Doom, Harris, D.J. and Ayers as our LB’s of the future!!! That sounds nasty, and with Nolan heading the D, he will turn this unit into animals!!!

BM has shown some HUGE character issues….and many of those issues have begun at clubs….perhaps the worst of these being the altercation before DWill’s death. He has not shown that in his off time that he can stay away from trouble and going to NY would be give him a one-way ticket out of the league.

Marshall could not handle the night life and his own social scene in the relatively calm citites of Denver and Atlanta (where most of his past troubles with that one girl occured as well as the infamous McDonald’s wrapper).

Denver would get a nice package while giving a player his death sentence…..with that said I truly hope BM could fix his act especially if he is in NY.

Old moniker but, true nonetheless.

I think the bigger question here is are we rebuilding or not? Can Coach McD afford to spend 3 years to get the team where he wants it or does he have to win now?

Is Bowlen willing to spend up the cap to win?

Broncos are gambling with BM either way. Don’t pay him this year, has a monster year, let him go for nothing.

Pay the guy, he gets hurt, or pulls another bonehead off the field move and the commish puts him out for the season and we’re back to square one and salary cap committed to him.

I still think it sets a terrible precedent to trade these players that are acting out and demanding things. If any of us were to display this behavior at work, what would happen to us?

Agree randall.

I’m not buying anymore shares. I stick with him for a while and see if it rises.

I honestly don’t understand how any other GM in the league could be considering trading for this guy. Its a job losing/saving move. You’d have to be desperate to pull it off.

Denver wants more than his current value is worth and no team wants to pay. Marshall will stay put.

Randall, I too am a Randall from CO.

There’s nothing like watching your team just get dominated down the field, not being able to stop the run, like Frank Gore did to us in 2007. DJ is tight but isn’t the run stuffing ILB that Andra Davis is. He’s not fast in coverage but he will fill the hole and stop a RB in his tracks.

He was a good pickup for the money IMO.

that as much as Harris would help our defense (and I am going on what you guys say because I don’t know anything about him) I would like a WR to help our offense this year.

On the other side I really don’t want anymore drama in Denver. I wasn’t pleased with how the Cutler situation went and after the way he was behaving I just wanted the whole thing to be OVER even if it meant trading him. Now for Marshall, I would like for this to end peacefully with him still on our team. However I go back to what I just said: NO DRAMA. As Guru stated and I also heard Woodson (think it was him or Eisen) say that he is one slip up from an 8-game suspension. If he is traded, his new team better realize they better give him a new contract in the process.

I want players who WANT to play for the Broncos and McDaniels so if Marshall doesn’t fit into that category then oh well……as much as that sucks. I honestly though BM would want to play and show everyone why he is deserving of a new contract, but I was wrong.

We are rebuilding so it will take awhile for things to begin to fall into place so we might as well have everyone on the same page now.

I would never trade Brandon Marshall until it was on the team’s terms, rather than letting the rest of the team see me let a 2nd young pro-bowler force his way out of town. I would rather bench him for the entire season than to send the message that the players are in charge and have the run of the roost.

I would trade Marshall only after he starts producing on the field with a good attitude, thereby increasing his value and allowing the team to dictate the when’s and the where’s. People often overlook the fact that Brandon is at least as likely as unlikely to be Broncos property for at least one additional season due to the CBA. No speedy decisions need made – he is no longer a distraction while sitting on his couch.

He’s outstanding, and really underrated. I voted Yes, but it was with a good deal of reservations. I think if you trade Marshall for Harris, all of a sudden you’re a defensively focused team, and you have a pretty stellar Back 7. I think Marshall and Harris are comparable talents, and the 3rd rounder pushes it over the top for me, just slightly.

Tony Scheffler…You want Beast…There you go…If we end up trading BM I think that Tony’s role will expand to include linning up at WR…He is big, fast, runs quick sharp routes, and has great hands…He will be a third down machine…Just my opinion

If we can dramatically improve the defense, make the trade!

If Lonbardi is right, then I may change my answer to no. http://cbs4denver.com/sports/nfl.denver.broncos.2.1160551.html

A couple of thoughts to consider:

McKinley has quietly been the 5th best receiver in preseason. He’s made a couple of mistakes, but when his prior coach calls him the best WR he has coached….that should say something.

Jets lost quite a bit of defensive talent in the offseason, so I’m not sure this offer would even be entertained.

I’m not familiar with Harris, but people I respect greatly here have spoken on how great he is/can be.

I am fed up with the MSM and their “analysis” of the Broncos. Unfortunately, we have to listen to those jackasses all season long….At least if we got comparable talent, we could move on and start building a team of players who WANT to be Broncos.

It is simply not possible to replace Marshall. He is a freak of nature. Even more so than Cutler, who combined good size, mobility and great arm strength. Marshal could be a bit faster, but he creates huge match-up problems. When healthy, he is a beast for DBs to bring down.

Bowlen should make an oral agreement, witnessed by his agent, promising they will make a legitimate, even generous offer to keep him a Denver Bronco after the season. Whatever it takes to get him back on the field and not fielding offers or possibilities elsewhere.

Im tired of the drama that comes with him.

Harris is a very good LB, BM will likely be out of the league in two years at this rate. But I seriously doubt NY would offer Harris, maybe a 3rd round pick and some scrub like Kellon Clemons, but I doubt they would offer a guy like Harris.

Maybe a few years ago, but not now. Ryan is a defensive coach, hes said before hes fine with what he has on the offense end, so theres no reason to trade one of the centerpieces of his defense, and a pick, for a guy who touches the ball tops 10 times a game. Add in the pick, its no wonder why the Jets shoot this down as soon as it came out

Lower the price and NY will be calling, if all it took was a first rounder, then i’m sure the Jets would do it, even if they gave up a guy like Dwight Lowery, or a solid DT like Pouha, along with the pick, it may happen, but Harris is to much to ask for