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Broncos Thoughts and Musings: Raider Week

"Fire is the test of gold; adversity, of strong men." Lucius Annaeus Seneca, 4 B.C.E.-65 C.E.

The Denver Broncos are off to as fast a start as anyone could have predicted. The new management has done a remarkable job in finding players that fit the scheme, looking for leadership qualities as well as playing skill and suitability, drafting the exact players they needed and instilling both scheme and attitude to win games right away. This weekend will bring about a contest that Broncos fans everywhere look forward to - going into the Black Hole to fight the Raiders in an old grudge match that's one of the great rivalries in the NFL. It's a great weekend for football!

I've spent a few days breaking down film and putting together some notes from the past two weeks. I hope they'll help some of you to enjoy the games a little more - here are some Thoughts and Musings for Week 3.

 

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Quinn, Quests and Quality

In the second half, the Broncos went to far more two-tight end and three-tight end looks and wore down a Browns defense that had cracked against the run in the second half the previous week.

The extra tight ends pushed out the edges of the Broncos' offensive formation, and the Browns had less success running plays down from the outside in. As a result, the Broncos rushed for 133 of their 186 yards in the second half, with Correll Buckhalter going 45 yards for a touchdown in a two-tight end set

Knowshon Moreno also ran for 17 yards out of a two-tight end formation to go with a 14-yarder with three tight ends.

"We got tight ends that can block, they're aggressive," Moreno said. "(The Browns) knew we were going to run the clock out. They put as many people down there as possible. We broke some runs on that."

Is anyone still wondering why we drafted Richard Quinn? If you think about it - using a late 2nd-round choice for exactly the player you want makes a lot more sense than waiting a few rounds and 'seeing' if he's still there (and wondering what to do instead if he's not). I was one of those who believed that Josh McDaniels was going to a 3TE set very early on, and I'm glad to be right this time. Quinn is perfect - Daniel Graham and Tony Scheffler can be great options in the receiving game, and Scheffler can be split out as a WR just as I suggested that he would be. Sorry to toot my own horn, but I've heard a lot of grief aimed at McD over how he isn't going to use the TEs and why did we 'waste' a draft pick on Quinn and the like. After a time, it got me to wondering about a kind of bottom line issue.

Why do some fans assume that there's no reasonable explanation to the actions they're seeing? It gets back to something that might be worthwhile: I didn't suddenly get a crystal ball and I'm certainly not a genius about football. I just looked at what McD has done in the past and considered why he was doing what he was, as much without prejudice either way as I could. Assuming that a guy who grew up around football (and who likes order and logic so much that he has a degree in mathematics) doesn't have a reason for the things that he's doing is arrogance of the worst kind. He did, and his decisions now make perfect sense.

This happened in regard to Eddie Royal last year. Eddie, according to the Goodman's, ran the best routes in the draft. When he was selected, most folks assumed that we had used a 2nd-round pick - our only one - on a specialty role player who might turn into a slot receiver down the road if we were lucky, despite Mike Shanahan's quotes to the contrary. Few people read what Shanahan said about Eddie's routes and believed it - it was often considered 'spin'. But Shanahan was telling the truth and now we are thrilled to have him as a Bronco.

The same, I believe, is true about Alphonso Smith. He is already a killer nickel cornerback. Due to the number of passing advantages in the NFL, you have to play nickel a lot. He's already making that work to our advantage and, eventually, Champ and Andre' Goodman will need to be replaced. Some folks will always complain that it wasn't worth a first-round pick, but they're not really thinking. We want to win NOW - not next year. Next year he'll be even better, just as Royal is now.

That said, so far the draft looks awfully good to me. Darcel McBath wasn't greeted with cries of joy, but he got his first special-teams tackle and his first INT this week amid reports that the Broncos are happy with his skills, dedication and performance. He, too, is going to make us glad that we took him. Robert Ayers was around the ball far more last weekend and made a few very nice plays - it's his second game and you can see the progress every week. Of course, everyone could see this week that Knowshon Moreno is likely to be a beast for years to come. Friends, we had a very fine draft. I'd suggest that we start trusting the McDaniels team until they give us a good reason not to. So far, he's done a heck of a job.

The Raiders Max Protect

Lost in the jumble of news from around the league this week was the reason that the Raiders offensive line has looked as good as it has. Against the Chargers, for example, they used 8 protectors on 2 occasions, used 7 players 6 times, and 6 protectors (plus a TE or running back chipping) on 10 plays. They also used a 3-step drop with a quick throw 5 times, so they're aware of their issues on the line. Their approach so far has been to throw bodies at the defense, stymieing the attempts to take advantage of a weakness in the front 5.

This isn't a seamless approach. They still have to win some battles one on one, and the loss of Robert Gallery (who's done a nice job at guard and has been a strong point along a less-than-optimal line) will still hurt them.: he'll be replaced by Erik Pears.  I'll look for them to continue this approach against the revamped, aggressive attacks of the Broncos D. The Broncos will have to stunt and twist, finding gaps in the wall to pressure JaMarcus Russell and make him nervous. He doesn't usually throw well under pressure, so Mike Nolan and company will have their hands full with that this week.

I had wondered about the issue of using that many players to try to protect the quarterback, so I asked our own hoosierteacher to chime in. If that's their approach, how do we attack it? His answer intrigued me.

"In an odd twist, Oakland beats themselves by resorting to max protect. Teams WANT to force offenses into max protect, because it limits the players that are able to go down the field and score points or gain yards. Teams resort to max protect because they are unable to protect their QB, not because they desire to.

This is exactly what Denver wants. Consider - Denver rushes 5 on most plays (the 5 DLmen) and feature an elite DB corps. We want to force opponents to keep their TEs and any RBs in on pass plays, because this allows the SAFs an easier (hence quicker) read on plays. The only advantage for the offense is that it allows the QB more time, and the WRs get more time to break away from their coverage.

The rule of thumb is that a defense will eventualy get to the QB, regardless of the protection. The added time that the offense gets is mitigated by the defense, since the defense gets easier reads, less scoring threats on the field, and they still get the "1.5" advantage (1 OLman is equal to 1.5 defensive rushers). This equation means that the more players that have to be used to protect the QB, the less value they have proportionate to a defensive player. In other words, for every 3 defenders added to protecting the QB, the defense only has to add 2 rushers for balance.

Hope that gives some perspective. Oakland is going max protect because they have to, not because an offensive coordinator wants to use it so much."

Many thanks, Professor! Given the level that our secondary has played at and the relative strength of the Oakland receivers - not the strongest club, but some decent ones - I'll give the advantage to our side. I suspect that Nolan has a few wrinkles in mind with the front 7, too.

Oakland managed to beat KC in KC. That's never easy, so we can't look past them next week. They put up a good fight for San Diego before inevitably succumbing - San Diego has had their number for years. I don't get the impression that the Broncos are set up to look past anyone, though - listening to Josh McDaniels' mournful recitation of how hot the Browns weapons were, I was starting to think that I'd woken up in an alternate universe. Not so - any NFL team can have a good afternoon and beat you. McDaniels will have them prepared, Brian Dawkins will have them worked up and inspired and Kyle Orton will keep them steady. I'm starting to like the combination.

The Sack Attack and the Offensive Line

There was a lot of understandable consternation regarding our offensive line last week. Antwan Odom has been taking mean pills - he looks bigger, stronger and very effective. The full story wasn't clear until he dined on Packers linemen in Green Bay last weekend - the Bengals had 6 sacks on Aaron Rodgers and he had 5. The Cincinnati defense is aggressive and effective, and the Broncos did fairly well against them. While it's true that the Broncos were substituting Russ Hochstein for the redoubtable Chris Kuper, there is still the fact that the Bengals right now look like they're bringing pressure effectively.

The Green Bay offensive line isn't stout, but the Broncos line is. Some of the trouble was probably communication,  since the line isn't used to having Hochstein playing, but the Bengals did exactly what they should have - take advantage of every weakness they could find. They made Green Bay pay in a big way, beating them badly while on the road. While I won't hold my breath waiting for the media to discover that the Bengals may be better than advertised, seeing what happened when Kuper returned to the lineup against Cleveland has gone a long way to assuaging any doubts that might have arisen. The Broncos will get a good test this weekend in Oakland - Richard Seymour has been an instant upgrade to an Oakland defense that badly needed one. I'm still looking for the Broncos to win this one, but the victory may be hard-fought.

The Rush Job

It was nice to see Correll Buckhalter show the fans just why Josh McDaniels was so eager to bring him to Denver. Buckhalter used the field perfectly, confounded the defensive backs, and won a pro wrestling match in the last few yards to notch a rushing TD for the Broncos. He had come back to the sidelines just before to tell the assembled running backs that one of them was going to bust a long one against the look the Browns were using, and then he went out to prove it. Buck ended up with 9 carries but racked up 76 yards, an 8-yard average carry. For a guy who was often described as being injured and over the hill, he looks remarkably spry. It's easy to see why Josh McDaniels wanted him.

I think that folks may have missed that McDaniels has had several chances to see Buckhalter close up and to see how New England had to game-plan him. Like Renaldo Hill and Andre' Goodman, McDaniels likes players who were hard to scheme against or created mismatch issues. Typical of how this team seems to operate, Buckhalter gave most of the credit to his linemen.

"Any time a back can break out like that, first of all you've got to thank your linemen, because without them it isn't possible," Buckhalter said. "But it kind of gets you into a groove and makes you feel good, and it carries over to the next week."

Knowshon Moreno has made huge strides and will only get better - it was nice to see him catching on. While Peyton Hillis will get lots of touches over time, I'm not (surprise!) concerned with how often he touches the ball. He's going to be out there on special teams where he's making tackles, he's also blocking, he'll see receptions and he'll carry the ball. Added up, it's a sizable presence. If Moreno and Buck get the majority of touches in this game or the other, that's fine. As long as we're productive, that's all that counts. I think that you can assure yourself that Hillis feels the same way - he's always been team first.

LaMont Jordan has showed that despite being a distant 4th on the depth chart in many ways, he can receive and carry the ball late, which are the two things I've always envisioned him as doing. Role players are a big key to the depth on the team.

Home Sweet Home

You might have noticed that the Broncos are a very solid 22-3 in home openers since 1984. In addition, they've got the right QB for the job - Kyle Orton is 16-2 at home over his career. That's a combination that bodes very well for the future, so congratulations to both. After watching the NFL Rewind of the performance Orton gave, I can honestly say that if you spend time breaking down the film, you'll be very impressed with his poise, performance and skills. While I sympathize with those who complain that he doesn't look good enough while winning, I'm a lot happier with a guy who wins nearly twice as many as he loses than a guy who looks great while losing more than he wins. Ever since Orton was in college, he's been a winner, and it shows.

Kyle Orton is calm, confident and sure of himself and his team. In his post-game interview, Orton said matter-of-factly, "We've got one of the best groups of guys in the league." He's right, too. Orton was just 11 of 27 in the first half, but a number of those were the throwaways that the team wanted him to take against Cincinnati. In the second half, he was 8 of 10 for 142 yards - a more than average performance. Like the rest of the team, Orton continues to improve.

What is it about Purdue QBs? Orton is growing into the system and impressing those who had an open mind on the issue. Drew Brees is ripping up the league. A.J. Smith just didn't see it coming - he isn't at all unhappy with Philip Rivers (Nothing but his attitude to be unhappy with. I understand that he still claims that he didn't do anything wrong in bending over the Ravens player and yelling in his face. Stay classy, Phil). Rivers, for all his apparent attitude issues is one of the best young QBs in the game, but you don't use a 1st-round pick on a player if you believe that your current man at the position will be one of the best in football in a couple of years. It's another reason to be happy that our head coach knows QBs so well.

I was following Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter (thanks to a recommendation by TedB) and here's what Jeremiah had to say, "Drew Brees has rubbed off on his teammates. Sources told me his leadership in the locker room is even better than his play." That's an impressive statement, given what Brees is doing on the field. Orton's teammates loved him in Chicago and do in Denver - must be something in that Purdue water.

Notes from the Legion of Doom

"Time discovers truth" Ibid

Okay, it's not original, but it describes our team well. There's only one problem with that name, really - the fact that the players wouldn't ever mention any one guy. How to know? When Elvis Dumervil was being asked about his 4-sack day, what he wanted to talk about was the performance of Andra Davis, with 10 combined tackles. Doom said of Davis,

"Ah, man. That's one guy I thought had a great game. I think the four sacks kind of overshadowed it a little bit, but my MVP is 'Dre Davis. He's been our emotional leader since he came on board."

Davis was equally modest and wanted to talk about Doom. His comment was succinct.

"He really showed everybody why he is definitely one of the best rushers in this game," he said. "The sky is the limit for Elvis."

Dawkins summed up the approach that is starting to show so clearly. I love what he said,

"When 'E' is having the day he is having, it's like I'm making those sacks," Dawkins said. "That's my guy. That's when you have a defense, I think, that excels. When everybody is not (playing) a selfish brand of ball. It's complementary -- anybody has a chance. And when you make that play, we're going to celebrate with you."

'Complementary' is the word of the season in Denver. This team believes in itself and they believe in each other. It's easy to spot - look at the comments, and notice how they talk about each other. That's one mark of a champion - a team that plays for each other. There is a certain chemistry on a winner that you just don't see anywhere else. More power to them.

The other thing that a winner has is confidence. Not arrogance, although some get to that point, but confidence. This team has confidence in each other and in the work that the coaches have done and are doing. Mike Nolan commented,

"We've started to build some confidence. When the players have confidence in it, then it starts to breed its own success." It has, and it shows. Brian Dawkins said that the team has felt it since the game against Arizona.

Of confidence, Daniel Graham said, "We're not surprised at all," by the 2-0 start. "We knew that a lot of people would doubt us, but we're being one as a team in here, we don't care what people say about us or what they think, we're going out and getting wins as a team." I love how this is going.

Sometimes It's Better to Receive than to Give

Among the stories right now is the discussion about why Brandon Marshall isn't a bigger part of the offense. I'd suggest a couple of things - first, despite his protests, it's possible that he still doesn't know the playbook well enough. If true, it's a crying shame. It's Week 3 of the regular season, for heaven's sake!

There's another reason, though, that makes more sense to me. SlowWhiteGuy was talked about receivers this summer and he noted something that I put into one of my databases, because it seemed so obvious, yet so overlooked. On the idea that a WR is the same in any system, SWG wrote:

Not Quite True:

  • Some systems require very precisely timed routes - e.g. WCO, because the QB actually throws before the cut.
  • Some systems require the receiver to get separation after the cut because the QB waits until the cut has been made.
  • Some systems require the receiver to get to a precise spot on the field because the QB is reading the coverage not the receiver; this requires precise route running.
  • Some systems require the receiver to read the coverage and adjust the route on the fly; close coordination with the QB is essential.
  • So, there are subtle but profound differences between systems. That's one of the reasons why a receiver may look unstoppable for one team, then disappear with another. (The italics are mine)

I think that part of the reason that Brandon Stokley is getting so much attention from Orton and Marshall so much less, is that Marshall has always had issues with his route running. He can be sloppy, doesn't always come out of his cuts smoothly and will round off at times. It's my perception, after watching both games carefully, that we are still having issues with receivers (or, at times, perhaps Orton) not agreeing on what route they are running and where they should be and that looked obvious with Brandon. Stokes runs such good routes that Orton can trust him, as I noted above. If Brandon improves, so will his receptions and yards. It's really up to him at this point. He needs to develop a rhythm with Kyle Orton and that takes time.

If Orton continues to protect the ball, play within the system, and the team continues to improve their communication and performance (all of which I expect to see on Sunday), they can play with anyone in the league. There are no games that are out of reach right now.

Notes around the AFC

Since I've already talked about the Raiders, I wanted to catch folks up on the Chargers. Once again, the Chargers are being picked to win the Super Bowl. Once again, they're starting slowly, but at this point, they have some serious injury issues that may not permit them to suddenly pick up their pace.

I was surprised at some of the performances during the raiders/Chargers game. On Oakland's side, I was disappointed that Richard Seymour decided to play for Oakland - he instantly makes them a much better team. Both their offensive and defensive lines played better than I had expected, especially the offensive group. As discussed, that is misleading and much is due to max protect. San Diego, for example, only blitzed 11 times in 30 passing plays. Oakland can make the running game much more effective unless the defense is able to take them out of their comfort zone. JaMarcus Russell looks like he is still a hit-and-miss QB with a massive arm and inconsistent accuracy. He doesn't make the best decisions, but at his best he's going to be what Al Davis and Tom Cable apparently want - a big-play QB who will be a bigger advantage than a detriment. San Diego left too many receivers wide open - Steve Wilks, formerly of the Chicago Bears, is now the secondary coach. The Chargers had only 8 interceptions last season. Wilks' group in Chi town brought in 42 over the three seasons he was there, but you wouldn't know it from the Chargers' performance so far.

On the San Diego side, while it's just the 3rd weekend it seems to me that LaDainian Tomlinson is exactly where I thought he'd be. He's aging, often injured and seemed to be experiencing the inevitable diminishment of his skills. That isn't to say that I don't recognize that a less-effective LDT is better than a lot of healthy running backs - the man has always had a lot of talent and is a fine receiver and a tenacious blocker. His hands and receiving skills have always been a huge advantage to the Chargers and he can still run some, but the loss of effectiveness seems obvious. I'll be interested to see if they keep Darren Sproles after this year - if not, they may have to end up going RB in the first round of 2010. As a second option and a returner, Sproles is extremely valuable, but the franchise tag is an expensive one, even so. He seems to be taking over for Tomlinson effectively, but I'm concerned about how long he can do it for.

As I've reported, the Bolts' biggest problems seemed to be on the offensive and defensive lines. On offense, the loss of rookie 2nd-round pick Louis Vasquez is a big blow to a team with multiple injury problems at the O-Line positions. Nick Hardwick is out for a while and Scott Mruczkowski is going to be asked to carry the starting center position. Left tackle Marcus McNeill had two surgeries in the offseason, free-agent acquisition Kynan Foley was cut and the Lightning Lads are scraping the bottom of the barrel. They struggled most of the game and looked flat and uninspired, despite playing a team that they have owned for over half a decade. They played much better at home against the Baltimore Ravens, but still lost with a failed drive in the final minutes.

The Chargers defense wasn't the same squad that won out last season. DE Travis Johnson, a free-agent acquisition, has a history of injury and a tendency to play as if he's less than inspired. He went down with a groin injury. DE Ryon Bingham is out with an injury and Jacques Cesaire is just coming back from a calf injury. NT Jamal Williams is on injured reserve with a triceps injury and had multiple surgeries in the offseason. Canadian pickup Vaughn Martin isn't ready for the NFL yet. The Chargers picked up career backup Alfonso Boone out of Chicago, where he played for Steve Wilks and Ron Rivera in a 4-3 front scheme where he's spent his career. They didn't try to play 4-3 defense in the first two games as they did in preseason, but the line looked as if losing Wayne Nunnely was as big a blow as it was a boon to Denver. The secondary is struggling, too, and Shawne Merriman (like most players who come back from reconstructive knee surgery), isn't yet the player that he was before the operation. San Diego is a team in trouble. The Broncos should gain ground on them while they can.

I haven't watched the entire Chiefs/Raiders game, so I won't comment much, but if Kansas City drops divisional games at home, it's going to be a long, nasty season.

Final Thoughts

"Let each man exercise the art he knows" Aristophanes, 450-385 B.C.E.

Oakland hasn't shown that it can score consistently over the first two games. They have a good secondary and the revamped defensive line looks good, but even without the homer in me coming to the forefront, I think that the Broncos offense is obviously better. It won't be an easy game on the road, but with Chris Kuper back, we should do well on the O-Line. We have shown that we can move the ball effectively in both the passing and rushing attacks.

This defense is the best that the Raiders will have faced, given the weak sister performance by San Diego. I was watching the nose tackle position a lot while breaking down film this week - Ronald Fields is everything that I hoped he'd be right now and seemed to be getting better as I watched. Marcus Thomas rotated in when he got a breather or the matchups were favorable; and despite being stood up by double teams, he kept both me busy and still clogged the middle on some of the plays. I thought that Thomas played better than I expected. Chris Baker is still being groomed, but the Broncos are deeper at NT than I expected.

Vonnie Holliday was a heck of a pickup. He was all over the ball consistently this week and will give the Broncos another good option at DE. The matchup I like best is Elvis Dumervil against the Oakland right tackle, ex-Bronco Cornell Green (backed up by former Bronco Erik Pears). Our other old Bronco friend Cooper Carlisle is at guard next to him and playing inconsistently. I expect to see him moved strongside at least part of the time. Ryan McBean has shown that Josh McDaniels' faith in him was justified, Kenny Peterson is playing well and is a vocal locker room leader. If Le Kevin Smith can come back from his knee injury, this becomes a deep, highly effective line. The folks who bashed it forgot that a lot of players aren't well known - until they play well in the right system. I have to take off my hat to the personnel choices and the job that Mike Nolan has done with them. The defense is on the same page and their leadership is keeping them there.

Darrell Reid likes his new job and is playing his heart out. Doom? Yep...Dre Davis has grown into what the Broncos need from him and his leadership is unquestionable, Ayers stepped up against the Browns and the list goes on and on. If I talk about the secondary we'll be here all day - and I'll be out of superlatives. I just don't see the Raiders being able to score effectively against this group. I make it Broncos, 24-14 in Oakland and a bigger rout wouldn't surprise me at all.

Go Broncos!

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Nice thoughts

Thanks for this! I share your (cautious, very cautious) optimism. Still lots to improve on, but at least they are aware of those things. and have the players to do it.

So the Raiders will have three ex-Broncos starting on their OL on Sunday? That should be interesting. They’ll either play the games of their lives, out of motivation, and make it tough, or play around their abilities, in which case I see Denver’s pass rush wreaking havoc.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 11:50 AM MDT reply actions  

Great work Bear!

The change of attitude from last year on defense (excuses) to this year (complimenting each other’s play) is amazing. Nolan has come in and created a miracle – a complete turn around from a pathetic defense to a legitimate group of contenders in just one off season. I didn’t expect the change to be that quick.

Now imagine how great the defense will look after a year or two when he has everything in place that he wants, instead of just using what was left from the last DC. Wow!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 24, 2009 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks, HT

Frankly, part of me is still shocked by the rapidity of the change. I was expecting this to be a very fine group, but the speed at which they’ve put this product on the field has me stunned and thrilled by turns. And it will continue to improve, which is, to use a term that I usually hate ‘scary’

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

actually lets not congratulate ourselves

the change has been rapid….and its going to take a season to digest all that….but we can only have that if mike nolan doesn’t get recruited to another system….josh is an offensive guy…i hope the defense isn’t treated like a red-headed stepchild….cos they are really making the plays…

god created earth in 7 days....on the 7th day, he took a break and created elway

by Bronkos on Sep 24, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your thoughts, Bronkos
josh is an offensive guy…i hope the defense isn’t treated like a red-headed stepchild

You’ve brought up a good point, but in thinking about it, I don’t think that there’s an issue here. Josh really isn’t ‘an offensive guy’. He was a defensive assistant originally, and years later he wrote the Pats manual on cornerbacks and on how to defeat wide receivers. The reason that his offense was so good was, in part, the fact that he was brilliant at analyzing defenses and then finding ways to counter them. It was his insight into defense, for example, that led to Andre’ Goodman and Renaldo Hill being brought on board. Dawkins has said many times that he came to Denver because of Josh. So did Andra Davis. So far, Josh has shown an equal interest in the offense and the defense, and a similar interest in special teams. I’d be disappointed if he didn’t use his understanding of the offense on the Broncos behalf – he did coordinate the best offense in the history of the game, by many standards, after all – but he’s shown a constant understanding of the defense and has given us the best coaches, players and approaches that I could ask for.

I agree with you, too – losing Nolan would be a terrible blow. However, he said in an interview that he’s happy being a coordinator, and it’s fair to say that he wasn’t much of a success as a head coach. Here’s hoping that he stays with us for a long, successful time!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I bring up this point a lot..

…but a lot of coordinators (and I would include myself) just aren’t meant to be head coaches. Nolan is a great DC, but not a good HC, and that’s ok. If anything, the experience he got by being a HC only makes him a better coordinator.

I hope he sticks with his specialty, and determines that it is better to be an terrific DC than to be a poor HC.

I also agree with you that the media may see McDaniels as an offense guy, but the truth is that he is much more balanced (and his roots are defense).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 25, 2009 6:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nolan's not too set in his ways to listen...

I’d like to think that Coach McDaniels also had something to do with bringing in a culture of winning as a team=)

by Alex on Sep 24, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great post Doc!

Every fan still feels a hangover from the previous administration…and I am feeling a bit of that.
What I do like is that McDaniels and all the players interviewed talk up the opposition, are respectful and focused.
I think McD has been smart in taking out some of the passion in the game: he is staying true to a course and sees this game as important because they are a division rival…but nothing more. Dawkins said the same thing.
I alos find it really funny how many of the players like Orton and Dwakins are calling the game fun.
Thats great….already lost of the old rivalry is gone, and makes Denver a VERY focused team.
Common sense, we should win this game by 14 or more.
History dictates differently…but I LOVE our team.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 24, 2009 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Wonderful breakdown broncobear.

What I see happening is the Broncos are changing their culture to being a learning organization that continues to school themselves to be better. Also the adaptability is extraordinary giving themselves the ability to attack each teams weaknesses and emphasize their own strengths. This approach also engages the players and keeps things from getting stale over a long season.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Sep 24, 2009 12:08 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree Ponderosa.

I’d also add an interesting thought in that:

Has anyone noticed that besides a few exceptions of highly-skilled experienced veterans like Champ, Dawkins, and Goodman; the rest of our Defense seems to have near equality in it’s depth. What I mean here is that it just feels like it doesn’t matter who we sub in along the D-line, with the LBers, or at the deep safety position… They are all equally capable of fulfilling their assignment in a unique way.

Because of this I don’t feel an inkling of worry at all when somebody goes down on defense (unless of course that man is Champ, Dawkins, or Goodman, then I might worry a little bit) because the other guys are equally capable. I don’t know how in the world Nolan is able to pick out a group of starters in the front seven. They could all be mixed and matched in a highly successful way.

Does anyone else feel this way or am I alone here?

"For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities (His eternal power and divine nature) have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:20

by USMCWall on Sep 25, 2009 12:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

depth

I’ve been thinking about this due to how SD has been affected by injuries this year. Losing Jamal Williams dramatically affects their defense, and they’re in a lot of trouble without him. On the Broncos, the one player I worry about is Briann Dawkins. If he goes down, the defense loses a significant contributor due to his ability as well as leadership. Other than that, I share HSMCW’s impression about the breadth of ability and leadership on the team. If we lose a player (from QB to DB), there are others that will either step up or compensate. It really is a testament to the coaching staff for identifying talent and the players themselves for the ability and teamwork.

by Leukadian on Sep 25, 2009 7:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great read.

Very informative and time well spent reading for sure!

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by Tim Lynch on Sep 24, 2009 12:08 PM MDT reply actions  

in his latest interview McDaniels even talked up Jamarcus… “He has the highest yards per completion in the league” or something along those lines.

I am curious if he has a statistician hired to give him stats that will scare our D =)
Screw the 30% completion rate, when he completes them they get lots of yards. Don’t let him complete them!

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by Todd Jewell on Sep 24, 2009 12:08 PM MDT reply actions  

A fine analysis BB

and thank you for the kinds words on the QBs out of West LaFayette, Indiana. That special water you gave mention to, has been consumed by the likes of Dawson, Griese, Danielson, Brees and KO.

by rocko1 on Sep 24, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks guys

Yes, Purdue has produced more than its share of good to great QBs. I hope that trend continues and Orton starts to move from good to great. So far, he hasn’t stopped improving and he’s in a much better position now.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good read, and nice breakdown

I am still weary of any of our AFC West opponents, and always will be. If there is a game that should never be taken lightly and even a bad team will show up for, its a division rivalry.

I was listening to the Tony Bruno show on the way home from work last night, and though a Raider fan (which is my only qualm with the guy, he is actually really fun to listen too) he is so down on Jokemarcus (Raiders fan nickname), as is most of the Raider Nation it seems. Anyway, he commented that the way to beat Russel is to flood the middle, make him complete passes in the flat, an area where he lacks touch and finesse; or to the sideline, where his accuracy is his weakness. Raiders fan do not seem to be sold on the guy, but without a descent back up, they will have to live with him for a while.

I think this game will be a real test of our run defense, though that is an area that I have the utmost confidence, who would have thunk it!?

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by Choochoobonewagon on Sep 24, 2009 12:24 PM MDT reply actions  

This has sort of been my thoughts from the beginning
I’d suggest that we start trusting the McDaniels team until they give us a good reason not to. So far, he’s done a heck of a job.

McDaniels did not come in here, contrary to some opinions, to ruin the existing team. He doesn’t want to lose, and doesn’t expect to lose. He came in to build a TEAM, one that plays for each other as well as the coaches. He had to clean house to do it. I think he’s done an excellent job of it so far, like you, Bear.

Thanks for a great read. I hope that this will be a weekly column, similar to Ted’s STNO.

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by solace on Sep 24, 2009 12:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Bear..

.. I was watching the Scheffler TD highlight and noticed that it was a 3 TE set.. Scheff broke out to the left pre-snap but the two TE’s in the line kept the bears thinking we where serious about running.. Then instead of watching the touch down i watched the other side of the line to see what Quinn and Graham did.. they both broke off into routes after the snap and both where open if only a split second after Scheff was.. It was a thing of beauty.. I knew after watching that and the 2/3 te sets used in the running game that you would be sharing some thoughts on the subject. ;-)

by HorseStance on Sep 24, 2009 12:38 PM MDT reply actions  

wow.. bears.. i mean't browns..

.. well they both begin with B i guess..

I think i have been day dreaming too much about running all over the bears in the SB using 3 te sets.. lol

by HorseStance on Sep 24, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great read, bear!

From the 10,000 ft level, the most encouraging thing for this fan is that the Broncos are gathering in some wins while they are still very much a work in progress. It’s obvious when you see the interviews with players, particularly on the O side, that they have a long way to go before they’re comfortable with what they’re trying to do. Their statements about miscommunication are more than just “coach speak.”

Eventually, they’ll drop one, but hopefully it’s not to a team they should beat. But, also eventually, everyone will be on the same page, esp on the offensive side and they’ll be a force to be reckoned with. I refuse to believe Marshall will only get 3 or 4 catches per game thru the season, he’s too good. He’ll get caught up within 3 or 4 games and become the weapon we all know he is. Just think about the possibilities of Orton on the same page with Marshall, Royal, Stokes, Gaffney, Sheffler and Graham and TRY not to be giddy as a schoolgirl…. just try.

This is what we wanted...
Hey, look what we got!

by pubkeeper on Sep 24, 2009 12:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice to see you stop by, pubkeeper

How have you been keeping yourself? Good comment, btw. Our skillset on offense is something to get pretty giddy about. My belief is that it’s only going to get better.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Add to the giddy feeling..

a sure knowledge that JMac knows how to take advantage of an opponents weaknesses and it’s pretty hard not to faint with excitement. lol

by HorseStance on Sep 24, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, bear

I’m here all the time, actually. This is stop #1 every morning. Just don’t post a lot as much of what I think is covered very well already by others who are more articulate than me.

Luv this place.

This is what we wanted...
Hey, look what we got!

by pubkeeper on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks !

That must have taken you a lot of time to put together. I especially agree that Vonnie Holliday was a great pickup.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

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by bradley on Sep 24, 2009 1:01 PM MDT reply actions  

_This_ is why I love MHR so much.

Where else could you get this kind of reporting and in depth analysis ? I don’t think of myself as being gushy but IMHO many of the MHR contributors are doing some of the best work in sports coverage right now, better even than many who call themselves professionals.

Excellent work, broncobear, and thank you.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 24, 2009 1:02 PM MDT reply actions   4 recs

I agree!

Awesome read bear!!

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by sirsam on Sep 24, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)

by RockyMtnHigh on Sep 24, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1 and then some

The level of competent thoughtfulness of the contributors here is just awesome. I find it NOWHERE else, in any media. I’m so glad I found you all, the DP just makes me mostly feel like I ate a can of old beans with the consequences thereafter. And to think that was all I could exist on until last year. Big kudos to Bear et al from down here in the desert. Go Broncs!

by azbroncomaniac on Sep 24, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love AZ

What part are you in?

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

South of Tucs, near Tubac

We’re on the slope of San Cayetano, at about 3600 ft. beautiful view, beautiful weather, beautiful wife, but lousy Bronco coverage. Drives me nuts, so I usually just head to the bar on Sunday afternoon. But that’s fun too.

by azbroncomaniac on Sep 24, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want more... :)

There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now

by sirsam on Sep 24, 2009 1:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Pick 6 this week?

There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now

by sirsam on Sep 24, 2009 1:08 PM MDT reply actions  

I can feel it coming!

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 24, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

What a great read.

If the raiders keep 8 men in to block, we won’t be using much nickel D, will we? Too bad. I’m dying to see Alphonso Smith get his first pick (-6?).

by BroncosBassist on Sep 24, 2009 1:11 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

And yet I predict

A Smith gets his first pick this week anyway. Just call it a gut feeling…

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by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jim Miller and Solomon Wilcots picked the raiders????.....based on nothing.

Those that cant coach, compete!
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All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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by boydy2669 on Sep 24, 2009 1:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Because they know (now) they were wrong about the Broncos...

And are hoping for an upset to be able to say something like “and the REAL Broncos showed up this week”…

NOT-GONNA-HAPPEN!

by BroncoSense72 on Sep 24, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh Just Wait

We could be 14-0 but when we lose that first game that will be the “real” Broncos.

Also, brace yourself for the “I know they are undefeated but imagine how good they COULD be with Jay Cutler.”
That is coming too.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 24, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, we need more passes forced and checkdowns missed

That would really help our season…..

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am Just Setting The Stage

We all KNOWN some talking head is going to pose this question. My money right now is on Steve Young.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 24, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

While stuttering all over himself. I think he had some sort of problems Monday night…he couldn’t talk straight at all.

I can already feel my own face-slap coming.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Sep 24, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was enjoying (and trying to soak in) all the positive comments...

And then here come the martyrs…
Poor us? Give me a break.
We beat Cinci & the Browns and now we’re contenders?

There’s some wrong and right being said about us and every other team out there.
Conspiracy theories? Biased reporting?
Goodness gracious!
Can’t we just be realistically happy with more than anybody expected thus far?

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 24, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sporting News has 4 of 6

of their so called experts predicting the Raiders to win also.

Gotta show them some tough love.

How long does everyone think it will take the MSM to begin doing reports on the “3 headed monster TE package”? I figure there should be a name for it for when those schmucks decide to begin covering the “new sensation”.

I say it may be around Thanksgiving when they need some fodder to promote the Holiday games.

Somebody get a hold of TD and Shannon so they can break the news. That way it’ll be called something besides the next “gimmick” ala The Wildcat offense.

Oh I just had a bad thought. The MSM may wait until some “mainstream” team copies it and give them the credit. Dukes and Clayton would be all over it then.

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by IgorBStrange on Sep 25, 2009 1:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let's name it now so we can claim the credit.

Wouldn’t they just put it under the “heavy jumbo” package? That’s what it’s called on the goal line with 3 TE and a RB. Are we gonna change the name if it’s not on the goal line?

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by Troy Hufford on Sep 25, 2009 6:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

The WR is used instead of a FB in the "3 TE"

First and foremost, the 3 TE set features a single WR out to an edge, while the goal line formation does not. In Denver’s case, their long drive at the conclusion of the game featured the WR (the implications for the lone WR are explained in the archived article I wrote on the Magic 3).

The 3 TE also has no FB, though a FB plays a prominant role in both Heavy Jumbo and goal line situations.

Last, the 3 TE set is balanced in passing and running implications, where the goaline and jumbo packages only use passes in goal line situations (and are rarely used elswehere on the field).

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by Steve Nichols on Sep 25, 2009 7:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

They should call it...

..“The MHR Offense”, after the site that wrote it was coming over two years ago.

Yeah, I’m a little big headed, but here’s my reasoning. 3 TE sets are no big secret, and have been discussed in many, many coaching seminars and over beers after school games for years. I’m nothing special in that respect, and I’m not Nostradomous. Anyone with a coaching background, even at the pre-college level, has heard of “The Coming Storm” that I wrote about.

The problem is, it takes a scholastic level defensive coordinator to point out something that a lot of “professional” journalists missed about football offense. If they had any coaching background, they would have heard of this concept, and would have seen the signs on the field of the NFL. Instead, we get treated to flashy and silly game picks like those of Adam Schein over at FoxSports, or we get blathering opinions from a former player (we all know who I’m talking about) that trashes the Broncos, and has no journalistic background, and his only playing background was as a nobody.

Modern football journalism is based on being loud, flashy, celebrity driven, and argumentative. It has nothing to do with education or serious analysis.

I point it out time and time again, but you can judge the quality of the writing by the comments that writing garners. I’ll take the comment threads at MHR over the comments at FoxSports, ESPN, etc any day. Our staff and members provide excellent work on a daily basis. Some sites claim that their real treasure is hidden behind their “insider” or paid access doors, but it just isn’t there.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 25, 2009 6:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

I also saw Schein...

…(who has gone downhill and become more silly than analytical) pick the raiders, and fail to give any comment as to why.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 25, 2009 6:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

The lede nailed it

Why do some fans assume there’s no reasonable explanation for what they’re seeing? I’m as baffled as you, doc. When I see football coaches, elected officials I voted for, or anyone else make a decision that baffles me on the surface, I assume they have access to information I don’t, and are effectively playing a different game than the one I’m seeing.

I didn’t like a lot of things Shanny did in the draft, but I didn’t assume he was just throwing darts at the board. He had ideas about where to find value. I didn’t think they were good ideas, but they were ideas, and I’m sure that Shanny, like anybody else in his position, could explain their internal logic. To assume that someone at the pinnacle of a field is behaving like a rash toddler is insanely narcissistic.

Great post — I hope to have time to read it closely later.

by Chibronx on Sep 24, 2009 1:17 PM MDT reply actions  

Great Post!

The MSM is incapable of producing this type of thorough analysis. I was not a huge fan of the McDaniels signing, but I am a big supporter now. Partly because I like the approach he is taking and partly because of the unfair (IMHO) beating he takes from all the MSM. The more wins they get the more the MSM will have to eat their words (not that they will).

Rec’d!

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Sep 24, 2009 1:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the great research and analysis! Re: Marshall, I think it will just take time

I think the fact that Eddie Royal is experiencing the same drop off in catches should make it obvious that this is just the nature of a different offensive system from previous years…Royal is known for being a great route runner, but just lacks the experience in this offense, I think.

by kaze9999 on Sep 24, 2009 1:34 PM MDT reply actions  

HT was prescient

He’ll claim that he wasn’t, of course, but his article on the Magic 3 option was perfectly timed and brilliantly executed – not that I’m prejudiced or anything…grin. It also influenced me to write on the strange issue of the H-back – what is one and why do they call it that. We’ve got an incredible set of personnel to run 3 TE sets and you’ll never know if it’s a run, pass or where the ball is going.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 1:34 PM MDT reply actions  

3TE/3WR

I’m just excited for later in the season when we come out with those same personnel and then line up with 3 WRs (or more…). 3rd and 1, come out with what looks like the heavy package, and then spread the field. We’ve seen plenty of Jordan lined up wide, and Scheffler obviously can as well, so it’s not like MCD isn’t thinking it.

by BTS on Sep 24, 2009 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Have to be obnoxious

. . . being an accountant and all. 3 TEs and 3 WRs plus 5 linemen. So, no QB? I think you were talking about lining up the TEs wide if I understood you correctly. Spreading the field with the big guys. Anyway, I have always really liked the multiple TE sets that teams have used over the year. It gives you many options.

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Sep 24, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the excellent article . . .

and the link to HT’s terrific analysis of the future of the 3TE set, which I’ve been meaning to re-read since they used it so effectively against Cleveland. I flew in from California last weekend to take my Dad to the game (which I do once a year). When I saw the 3TE set near the goal line, and then Scheffler split out wide, I turned to my Dad and said “Watch Scheffler.” Boom! Six! My Dad looked at me like I was a genius . . . priceless. Thanks BB and everyone at MHR for the terrific insight into the inner workings of the game!

by db8632 on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Best way to spend my lunch hour...

Thanks for the great post bear…You guys are truly amazing and much appreciated!

by BroncoSense72 on Sep 24, 2009 1:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Great thoughts, Doc

Always enjoy your work!

BTW, I believe it was against the raiders when Rivers yelled at the defensive lineman on the ground (and threw the ball in frustration). You may already know this, but he yelled “stop at the whistle.” This happened a couple of plays after an oakland DL had taken out Hardwick with a hit after the whistle.

I hope the Broncos are prepared to bring it on Sunday. Oakland appears to be playing hard right now.

by Leukadian on Sep 24, 2009 1:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Fantastic stuff... emphatically rec'd

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Sep 24, 2009 1:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Ted, coming from you, that means a lot

Much obliged. If I’m impressing you, I’m doing a good job.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you Broncobear

(Here I thought I already knew everything worthwhile:). This is perhaps the best analysis I have read on this site (i.e. anywhere).

by warmick on Sep 24, 2009 2:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Maintaining focus

As time goes on McDaniels quotes make it more clear that it takes a great deal of mental preparation offensively to run his system. Knowing the psychology of human behavior relatively well it is almost inevitable that the offense will suffer a game or two of mental melt downs. Let’s hope they are few and far between and not coupled with an emotional let down from our hyped up defense. The exciting thing is how well our offense is doing despite the complexity and the fact the entire system is new.

I came away from this read of your post with the feeling the Faders will get a real butt whipping this time out. There’s even a pleasant image of your bear icon taking a generous chunk of butt in advance.

Thanks for a great post.

by BroncoCUbuffs on Sep 24, 2009 2:12 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree in principle

One of the things that may save us from that happening too often is the fact that Dawkins, Goodman, Davis and Haggan are all serious leaders in the locker room and on the field. Gosh, you’d think someone planned it or something….lol

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oaklands D

With Seymour they have a good line and they have a good Dbackfield. What I’m curious about is how good are their LBs.

"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me

by 3nS on Sep 24, 2009 2:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Troubled

Injuries and issues getting the best performance is what I’ve seen so far. They are a weakness, but the overall defense is the best I’ve seen of them in a long time. I still think our offense can score against them, but it may be a story of two halfs again.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

No sellout in Oakland?

As per the Chron’s David White, anyway. This makes me very mad if true, as a Bay Area resident that means the game I’d look forward to watching on TV is going to be blacked out. {shakes fist} Grrrrrrr.

I thought the Raiders fans were all pumped up for this game? And yet they can’t sell enough tix? SIGH.

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by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 2:23 PM MDT reply actions  

River's bends over guys
he isn’t at all unhappy with Philip Rivers (Nothing but his attitude to be unhappy with. I understand that he still claims that he didn’t do anything wrong in bending over the Ravens player and yelling in his face.

Not the first time Rivers bends over another guy. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2006/12/22/philip-rivers-bends-nick-hardwick-over-in-the-showers-gets-off/2

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Sep 24, 2009 2:29 PM MDT reply actions  

This quote in particular, stood out to me
Why do some fans assume that there’s no reasonable explanation to the actions they’re seeing? It gets back to something that might be worthwhile: I didn’t suddenly get a crystal ball and I’m certainly not a genius about football. I just looked at what McD has done in the past and considered why he was doing what he was, as much without prejudice either way as I could. Assuming that a guy who grew up around football (and who likes order and logic so much that he has a degree in mathematics) doesn’t have a reason for the things that he’s doing is arrogance of the worst kind. He did, and his decisions now make perfect sense.

and the last words cap it off beautifully. A fine write up and thanks to HT for the assist.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2009 2:35 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks, Kap

I can’t express how much I appreciate all that I’ve learned from HT – and Ted, styg and John. It was an oasis in a sea of sand and heat, reading parched patches of knowledge surrounded by gossip and innuendo passing as information when I found MHR University. It’s still true.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is oh so true for me as well.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2009 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't understand. Which fans assume this?

Obviously McD had a plan. Many of us doubted his ability to put it into action but to say any fans are scratching their heads in wonder…? I assume all McD doubters hoped it was they who were wrong as opposed to our coach. I know several folks have predicted McD’s utter failure but I think the majority of doubters were just that, doubters only.

Anybody could see McD’s past success. A doubter might wonder how much of it was attributable to the level of talent he had available to him, or perhaps …the head coach. A doubter might wonder at some questionable off season moves (that pissed him the hell off) but certainly any intelligent fan would look into the coaches motives and hope his intentions panned out as wins sometime in the not too distant future.

Who would assume he had no reason for his actions? Which fans are you referring to? It seems like you’re referring to a made up type of fan that you invented in order to feel superior to and demean with the “arrogance of the worst kind”.

Of course he had his reasons. His plan seems to be working splendidly so far. Even should there be setbacks (which will see many of you jumping ship with a quickness), it seems that we’re truly on the right course.

Perfect sense?
Forgive me though if I don’t fall in lockstep just yet?

Go Broncos!!
Let’s beat the Raiders!!

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 24, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice write up, Bear!

I always feel smarter after reading your stuff. Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com is picking the Raiders in this game. One of his telling comments was that the Broncos, “play a brand of offense only a home crowd could love,” but, interestingly enough, it seems as if even a lot of the “home crowd” doesn’t love what Denver is doing. Maybe I’m watching different film than a lot of folks, but Denver seems to be doing a lot of really good things in all 3 phases of the game. Oh, by the way, your recent response to KaptainKirk’s compliment on your writing — pointing to MHR University — reminded me a lot of Doom talking about Andra Davis. Teamwork. Who’d a thunk it?

by 42n81 on Sep 24, 2009 2:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Teamwork is one of the huge advantages for our squad this year

The other is that they’re much better than anyone really expected, with a few exceptions like Ted who saw this coming. SlowWhiteGuy likes to say that a team is only as good as its worst player. I believe that there’s a lot of truth in that, and the Broncos brought in hardworking, intelligent leaders, players who have started to excel later in their careers like Andre’ Goodman and dismissed a lot of guys who still can’t get a job in the NFL. The lack of ‘stars’ – other than Dawkins, who’s supposed to be getting too old anyway (chortle, chortle) convinced folks that they aren’t deep and talented. The ‘Star Power’ thing can be very misleading.

If you look at our offense, where’s the weak link? A player who is 16-2 at home and is in the top 10 in the league in a half-dozen categories? Maybe Marshall hasn’t caught fire yet, but weak? We have great depth and as you say – they play as a team, which compounds their strengths. A lot of teams talk about doing it, but few seem to achieve it and those teams tend to win.

You’re right – I can’t take much credit for knowing things that the writers on this site taught me. HT, Ted, styg and John have forgotten more than I know, but I"m grateful that I get to learn from them. The members? SWG, HSFC, boydy, and at least 10 others teach me every day and have been very kind about putting up with my questions in email. Teamwork – mostly from the members – is also what makes MHR such a pleasure to be part of. I love it!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

By the way, Mike Florio?

A brand of offense that only a home crowd could love? Where’s he been? Oh, sure, most teams would hate to put 27 points on the board after missing two FGs due to wind, right? The majority of teams in the league are using some or many of the same approaches that we do in the passing game to counter the speed of the modern corners and safeties. They even ran an article in the Post on it today, I believe. He’s under-informed.

He likes to hear himself talk sometimes, but did he explain how teams are going to counter the use of the 3 TE sets? I’d bet not – what do you think? That’s the problem with that job – you have to pretend to be familiar with things that you don’t know much about, and it can embarrass you at times. I’m pretty happy saying ‘I don’t know". Around here, look at the folks we have who will step in and explain things.

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by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Raider week means nothing to me anymore...

I’m now a Charger hater. Have you seen Tropic Thunder? Where the agent says to his client about a review he got..“It’s like pistol whipping a blind child”. That’s how I feel about Raiders now.

by NDbronco on Sep 24, 2009 2:57 PM MDT reply actions  

I understand where you're coming from

I agree it’s not as big of a rivalry as it used to be with how horrible the faiders have become. That being said, it still is a huge rivalry in my book as they always seem to play us like it’s their Super Bowl.

Jokeland has the worst record in the NFL since 2003 (25-73 from 2003 to date) but they have beaten us 3 times in that time span. While 9-3 against them is a decent record, it’s not too impressive considering we have been playing the worst team in football. They have somehow managed to split the season series with us in 2004, 2007, as well as last year’s embarassing 31-10 beatdown at Mile High. The rivalry is more alive than you give credit.

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Sep 24, 2009 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's how I feel about it

too, and even if they’ve been down they still get up for these games and I still want the Broncos to beat them very badly. Even more so since I live in the Bay Area and have to hear a lot of smack talk about it. (Well, not a lot, but some.) And I’m even more ticked off at them since they couldn’t sell out the damned game.

So, yeah, I want them beat almost as much as I want the Chargers beat. They’re all division games, all important.

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by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

The rivalry is alive, yes. However, I am hoping that McD can bury our past tendancy to play down to ‘easy win’ teams. I think this had about as much to do with our losses as the rivalry

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by odarol on Sep 24, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is Huge

If we could just beat the teams we should beat and split with everyone else then we are talking playoffs every year.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 24, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great read as always, Bear!

I loved Dawkins talking about the veteran secondary this week, saying that their communication was some of the best he’s ever experienced, and describing the four of them as “all humble guys.” I haven’t heard much out of Hill, but the leadership and team attitude from BDawk and AndreG is so freakin cool. I’m starting to inordinately love this defense….

McDaniels will have them prepared, Brian Dawkins will have them worked up and inspired and Kyle Orton will keep them steady. I’m starting to like the combination.

Great line…. This team is starting to come together.

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by Broncs Cheer on Sep 24, 2009 3:12 PM MDT reply actions  

I disagree on the evaluation of why Marshall is not more involved in the passing right now.

From the two games so far it is quite clear that Orton is playing it very safe and almost exclusively passes the ball to wide open recievers. It is also very clear that Orton is very happy spreading the ball around. This gives Marshall much worse conditions to work with than Stokley, Marshall always sees the top CB while Stokley often gets a nickel, linebacker or safety. Many of the passes Stokley has caught (not all of them though) have been against zone coverage where he is able to find a hole quickly since he lines up closer to the middle of the field.

The bigger surprise to me is not that Marshall hasn’t been as involved, we all knew that there would be some issues with the lack of practice time Orton and Marshall has together, but that Royal has been a complete nonfactor. Royal is an excellent route runner and is strong enough to beat the jam, but he hasn’t been able to get a lot of space and Orton hasn’t hit him fast enough to take advantage of the step he gets when he cuts in his routes.

by gyldenlove on Sep 24, 2009 3:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Marshall had a medium long pass play from Orton,

but stumbled and fell down. Marshall needs to get in tune with Orton so they are on the same page. He also needs to cut better instead of like bear mentioned “rounded cuts” in which the defender catches up with him on the play. Maybe the hip is a factor that he is denying, I don’t know but he trully needs some serious coaching.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 24, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can see your perspective

By the way, as it stands now, Royal is still on tract for over a 1000 yards this season, so perhaps non-factor is a bit harsh. From what I’ve seen on the film, Royal is often getting the #1 CB and he’s often either double teamed or has multiple defenders around him in zone. That is working to our advantage, though – as you say, Orton is very happy spreading the ball around and the presence on Royal promises that someone else will be open. As long as we drive and keep scoring, I’m good with it however it’s done.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Royal

Right now Royal is on track to hit 40 receptions and 308 yards and 0 TDs. Fewer yards than Buckhalter, Marshall, Stokley, Gaffney and Graham.

by gyldenlove on Sep 24, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I Don't Like

Either of your numbers when I looked into it.

But we should note that Denver is on pace to go 16-0

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by Kfustud on Sep 24, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

No Worries

Even his numbers don’t really add up though.

But this stuff is so out of whack anyway, we all know Brees is on pace for what? 100 tds in a season? I don’t think it will happen.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
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by Kfustud on Sep 25, 2009 7:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Numbers

Is it 5 receptions per games times 16 games = 40 receptions
or 38 yards per 2 games times 16 games = 308 yards you don’t like?

This early in the season there will obviously be pretty big error bars on any estimate like that, but it is the traditional way of predicting what a player is on track for.

Marshall’s numbers will come up, I have no doubt about that. I am more worried about Royal who can’t use his body to screen off defenders as efficiently as Marshall and doesn’t have the height to consistently win jump ball situations. I think we need to use him in a slightly different way or try to get him away from the other teams number 1 CB and maybe move Gaffney and Marshall out to the X and Y and have Royal in the Z where he like Stokley has shown that he can get open and make plays.

by gyldenlove on Sep 25, 2009 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Numbers 2

38/2 = 19 yds/game
19 * 14 more games = 266 yards + original 38 yards = 304 yards

The biggest way to get Royal open IMO will be to burn them with the other receivers until they give it up. However, scheme is scheme, I just want to win.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 25, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, I'm worried that we still might lose any real production from BM

I’m a little worried (less so) about Royal’s contributions. I like Orton spreading it around, it implies a growing knowledge of the offense (I’ve always liked McD’s play calling) but I’ve noticed Orton passing only to wide open receivers too….

This is funny to me. May he be passing to wide open receivers all year, right! Still, vs a tight defense a QB must be able to trust a guy like BM one on one to make a play (and make the tough pass that enables him to do so) …vs a tight defense a QB needs to be able to hit a great route runner like Royal when he’s just that half step ahead of the coverage.

Sorry, got off the point. BM and Orton will, I expect get on the same page more each week. How much so could be a real concern down the road. (for the record, I believe KO is doing his part… I sure hope BM is)

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 24, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

First of all, thanks bear for the great read and rec'd.

Are sacks created, made or just luck? Sometimes a little of all of those but most of the time it’s because receivers are not open and the quarterback either doesn’t have time from his OLine to get rid of the ball or he holds on to the ball too long.

“When ‘E’ is having the day he is having, it’s like I’m making those sacks,” Dawkins said.

Dawkins can feel like he is directly responsible for the sacks, him and all of the other DBacks with their coverage. Great news, I love what is going on in Denver.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 24, 2009 4:06 PM MDT reply actions  

not every sack is a coverage sack

sometimes the tackle just gets stood up by a pass-rusher who knows how to use leverage.

however, i love that dawkins feels the triumph of his teammates’ successes.

as long as you're paying attention

by neurospasm on Sep 25, 2009 1:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Travis Johnson

was a former 1st round pick of the Texans acquired for a7th round pick by the Chargers, I think?

The only difference between genius and insanity is perception

by Markus2112 on Sep 24, 2009 4:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes, that's right

He didn’t work out in Houston. There were a lot of reports – and I take them with a shaker of salt -that he didn’t have the ‘heart’ for the game. what I can document is that he was injured a lot. The Charges seem to think that he’s going to change his stripes on their beaches, but he’s already dealing with a groin injury.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

The pick

is a 6th or a 5th based on playing time, most likely a 6th. Without him the Texans are going to struggle against the run. Thanks for the great article, I always enjoy your writing. Broncos Rule!

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by Markus2112 on Sep 24, 2009 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Simply another brilliant breakdown, Bear!

As someone else stated; “I feel a lot smarter after reading one of your posts.”

Thank you, Bear, and rec’d!

" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "

by hairybear on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM MDT reply actions  

+1, hb its my busy time of year so I don't get much

time to comment; but I always feel smarter watching the
games when I’m loaded with Bear, HT, Doug and others.
Go Broncos
Rec’d

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only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Sep 24, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Writing like this is priceless.

Seriously, you and the other “coaching staff” on this site put together the best sportswriting I’ve ever seen. The content, the depth of analysis and imagination, and the wordsmithing are really quite brilliant.

By the way, regarding brevity, while this post looked somewhat lengthy, it read very easily and coherently. Thank you.

"Remember, it's only a game."

by robswenson on Sep 24, 2009 4:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks, rob

I was a bit concerned with the length, but hoped that it would read easily. I’m glad that came off – much appreciated, my friend.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM MDT reply actions  

It was an easy read broncobear

and you hit everything right on the button. Thanks once again for a great post.

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by weazel on Sep 24, 2009 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 24, 2009 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Long time lurker

I love all of the regular features but broncobear ’s contributions are spectacular reads. I have made the leap now and hopefully i can add some intelligent dialog down the road. Thanks for the great info!

by bigjake39 on Sep 24, 2009 6:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Good to have you posting, jake

The members are what makes MHR so special!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 24, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome to MHR jake

We are lucky to have many intelligent writers here that are very knowledgable about the game of football.

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by weazel on Sep 24, 2009 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Raiders and JaMarcus

Darn, I was hoping the Raiders wouldn’t work to fix things with JMR until after this Sunday. ;-)

From Fanhouse: JaMarcus Russell Is Regressing, Raiders Assistant Coach Admits

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by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 6:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Luckily

They have a lot to work on and couldn’t possibly fix all of Russell’s problems in three months much less three days.

by bigjake39 on Sep 24, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I know, I was

sort of being facetious ;-) but still, given how good he was in the 2nd game last year (even though I know that was against a far worse Denver defense, there’s not a lot of logic behind it), I’ll worry til the game is underway…

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by underdog on Sep 24, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Luckily

They have a lot to work on and couldn’t possibly fix all of Russell’s problems in three months much less three days.

by bigjake39 on Sep 24, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Great breakdown! Rec'd

I would just like to add my humble opinion, which is that their weaknesses are our strengths… again.

They’ll need to run the ball, but our 5-2 is made to stop the run, because, well let’s face it, Russell sucks. If they go to max-protect mode – very likely considering we are a better defense than they’ve faced thus far- it will effectively take their short passing game (to TE’s and RB’s) out of the equation – which is really our weakness. We certainly aren’t weak having our secondary cover their WR’s with easier reads. I would expect to see a lot of ball hawkin goin on.

I, too, wouldn’t be surprised if this was a blow out. Barring a big play from their ST’s, I can’t see much of a likelihood of them scoring more than twice… even in their own house. I also can’t see our team under performing in games that should be won (like this one) like some games of years past. Dawk and Davis will have them pumped and ready to take some respect from Russell this week. Can’t wait!

by Alex on Sep 24, 2009 10:38 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Good points El.

You’ll like my Chalk Talk (scheduled for) this afternoon. You nailed some of my favorite points!

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by Steve Nichols on Sep 25, 2009 7:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

You nailed what I have perceived elvisalex

And I blame MHR for teaching me these things! =)

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 25, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you both

I’ve never been a guy who’s able to explain the X’s and O’s of HOW to exploit the weaknesses we see, but I agree Kirk, this sight is a good teacher! I’m learning a lot.

by Alex on Sep 25, 2009 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent post, Bear. Rec'd.

I am a little late to the party – or as I used to tell my mother when I was living at home and came in at 3 am – early.

I really like our guys playing as a team. My 49er’s friend told me that Denver would have a terrific defense with Nolan as DC. He was right.

Thanks, Bear. Don’t worry about your verbosity. I love it.

by Blackknigh on Sep 25, 2009 12:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Loved it, Bear!

Great piece. Yet another reason why this place is my first sports stop of the day.

After reading articles like this (and all the others from the MHR University) I start feeling like that plant in Little Shop of Horrors…

FEED ME!

Take my advice... I'm not using it!
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by BroncTastic on Sep 25, 2009 11:41 AM MDT reply actions  

lol

I love that movie

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Sep 25, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

And to complete the rest of that line...

                      “Feed me, Seymore.”

I wonder if that means anything?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

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