MSM for what it's worth
by dcrespo7 on Sep 24, 2009 3:49 PM MDT
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Mike Shanahan fired. Jay Cutler traded. Brandon Marshall requests trade. Knownshon Moreno still holding out. These were just the many story lines coming out of Denver. What did it mean? Well the truth is, nothing. These are events that happened but by no means did it effect the current regime's staff in their operations. What does concern me however is the amount of coverage Denver received during compared to what national coverage was before those Super Bowl wins, 4th quarter comebacks and the pursuit for 2000 yds.
For the record, I reside in the NFC East's backyard of New Jersey (the metropolitan tri-state that includes NY and Conn.). Denver is by no means the NYG or NYJ. The Rockies are nothing like the Yankees or, thankfully, the Mets. What makes this corner of this country interesting is the amount of media required anything from professional sports to a group that enjoys bird watching.
What has disappointed me over the years, especially the new generation of journalism, is the sudden shift in paradigm. Before my time, the news was factual w/o bias or political sway. We all know that slogan, "knowledge is power" and the NFL has mastered "misinformation" better than the Cold War Operatives (especially during the draft). Now w/the internet and everyone misunderstanding the responsibilities of free speech, anyone can discuss anything. Whether its biased research to support or destroy credibility, establish facts for the common good, or good old fashioned gossip. My friends, I present to you the age of gossip.
Whether its Twitter, blogs, or just drunken spewing of opinion no one pays attention anymore. We only care about what interests us (sorta like that film "The Thawed"). You see, no one loves our Broncos like us Bronco fans. We have grown attached to mini celebrities and lost our way. You see Denver has gone through a tremendous transformation and though we're currently 2-0, MSM only sees us for what they do know. We know the stats regarding this team after John Elway had retired. That is the standard. At least until Bowlen did the unthinkable.
Please understand that two weeks into the season is nothing in comparison to what lays ahead but I agree, where are the pats on our backs? Where is that "wow, they did turn it around"? MSM doesn't owe the city of Denver or its fan anything because the media has always taken ordinary athletes and made them into something bigger. In a matter of media nanoseconds (much faster than anything the science community can calculate), they also tear down the very ordinary athletes into something far less ordinary. Almost shameful to consider our equal as human beings.
Maybe that last paragraph is a bit extreme and dramatic but that is my point. Whether its FOX Sports, ESPN, SI.COM, or any other channel responsible for our news, there main concern is to report the news that provides the most shock. We all know how boring reporting the news are if there is no controversy and w/that I accept all that is right and wrong w/MSM and the relationship w/the Broncos.
So this week we'll see our first divisional matchup against our hated Raiders. We've been following our team and the crew on this website have given me insight 250 yrs worth of Guinness would never enlighten me. The Claytons (who I do respect) and Dukes of the world are a necessary evil because everyone needs to be motivated. Whether its by the coaches, fan base or the media. It just so happens Denver has the trifecta and it won't end this year. That bar is awfully high people, don't forget it that w/greatness comes great responsibility and patience.
For the record, 24-10 Denver!
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I disagree overall, but still rec'd you...
I live in Sacramento, California and the MSM treats the Oakland Raiders differently than the Broncos…the Raiders have nearly a decade long streak of sucking ass, yet every year they are touted as turning it around. It’s almost is if the MSM is rooting them on, coddling the little baby until it grows up. Well, news flash, the Raiders suck. The Broncos have a 35 year history of being in the top echelon of teams and the MSM consistently all throughout has tried to find faults with my team and its players. In the 80’s it was, Elway can’t win a playoff game…then when he did, he can’t win a Super Bowl, then it was the only reason the Broncos won a Super Bowl was because of the 49er protoge Mike Shanahan. Then when Shanny quietly wasted a decade after his two Super Bowl wins, he became the Broncos, thus lost his favor with the Media. Then Pat Bowlen took over the team and fired Shanny, now Shanny is a guru again and Bowlen a madman who got rid of a franchise QB, ect ect…. It’s the constant attacking, the only time the Media has EVER let up in its relentless negativity was the period immediately after the first Super Bowl win and until the Broncos began showing chinks in the armor the following season when they lost to the Giants to drop to 13-1. If you recall, back then it was “The Broncos are in trouble, especially with the Vikings playing as well as they are”…blah blah…yada yada. I’m telling you, I’ve had it with this asshats. I’m tired of it and I’m NOT going to take it anymore! ;-)
The first time the Broncos lose, whether it be this week or in Week 8…all the pundits will be “SEE! I TOLD YOU THEY SUCKED!” I come to MHR to escape from those morons…I can’t blame them though. Look how they are already calling the Patriots as “declining dynasty” after ONE LOSS AT THE NEW YORK JETS. I mean…come on! Absurd!
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by Tim Lynch on Sep 24, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 10 recs
WOW Zap...Strike a nerve much?
But I TOTALLY agree with you…I have been watching it for 37 years, 6 SB appearances, 2 SBC, and countless trips to the playoffs…And let’s not EVEN get into the HOF snubs…OK i’ll stop now and leave Zappa’s comment speak for the rest of what I’d like to say…
dcrespo7…Thanks for the post as well…Rec’d
by BroncoSense72 on Sep 24, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah...I sort of went off into a wild tangent didn't I?
It must come from having live in fader nation for most of my life…and in the Dolt capital for the other part of my life. Only for a three and a half year stint out of my 31 years did I live outside either of those two areas…Pagosa Springs, Colorado 1984-87 baby.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
I understand...So Cal and Central Cal for most of my time...
Except ‘72-’80 baby…Denver, Boulder, Colorado Springs…Best nine young and veril years of life…LOL
by BroncoSense72 on Sep 24, 2009 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Not that I have ever taken it for granted...
but thanks for reminding me how much I appreciate having grown up (since I was 7 in 1982) and now still living in Broncos Country. I applaud those of you who are not living here and still so ardently support and follow this great franchise. There are a few teams around the league with some great and loyal fans, but Denver Bronco fans are certainly right up there in that top echelon of dedicated and passionate followers.
And as if it needed to be said to those of you who don’t live here (or even those of us that do), thank the football gods (and Guru) for the blessing that is MHR! What did we ever do before it?
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by RockyMtnHigh on Sep 24, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
I’m on the Zappa train, but dcrespo you bring a valid and interesting perspective to the table, and thanks for the post. The MSM want to be employed, make the big bucks like anyone else, and so stand on their soapbox to be heard above the banter and din. Over time It just ratchets up and feeds on itself, playing to one-upmanship, imho. Also, they have one or two minutes to sound intelligent. That’s a tall order for some of those minds. I’m not defending them, don’t get me wrong. But you’d think they might spend a little more time in research, ala our fearless leaders here, to come up with some intelligent insight rather than echoing the senseless sensationalism. It doesn’t play in Peoria or Boise, but the coasters could care less because to rip and rundown the dusty midland cowtowners elevates them in the ‘real’ markets.
by azbroncomaniac on Sep 24, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Not to mention, when we did win our 2 Super Bowls, they considered it 2 “down” years for the NFL.
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by rynoz71 on Sep 24, 2009 6:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Elway threw that pick 6
or they had the Gints
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by littletinybroncos on Sep 24, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you.
I think location has something to do w/how the media reports for their home team. I think that kind of reporting is simply biased which goes against the grain when journalism is to question and research its material. I guess in many ways, its still a popularity contest and if you’re not an attractive ambassador then get ready for the lashings.
I think you misunderstood my post though. I wanted to establish how MSM isn’t committed to one team or player and if they do, at the first sign of adversity you’d see how they would tear that team/player apart. You see when Elway forced his trade from Baltimore that was something never done before. One could argue that sports changed from that episode alone (combined w/Plan B FA and later to what we have in FA today). At that point Elway created this aura about himself. As talented as he was his time in Stanford netted zero championships. As I said in my post, the media likes to use information that they’re comfortable with. So for Elway to justify his force out trade, he had to show he could win. Then he had to show he can win in the playoffs. Then he had to show he could win the SB. That time frame alone is the reason Denver finds itself where it is today. That standard is higher than most teams.
Now I wouldn’t go too far and say Shanahan wasted 10 years because Denver lost their staple franchise player in TD and I remember everyone waiting w/halted breath for the comeback that never was (three years total). Denver was still competitive and even made it as far as the AFC Title game. Goes to show that when your window is open, it can close shut for a period of time.
By the way, to this day I believe that loss to the Giants was the best thing to happen to Denver (i was at the game). It alleviated the pressure of going undefeated and sometimes the media can interfere w/something as simple as playing football.
Let the MSM do their thing. Let negativity flow but take everything w/a grain of salt. I no longer take offense to what’s said or done. In the end, I’ll reserve all opinions until after the season!
People I believe MSM made bigger than what they were: Joe Namath (as monumental as that guarantee was, he was average afterwards) Brett Farve (when he came out that he was addicted to pain killers, the love affair sky rocketed and nothing he did was wrong – he’s overrated in my book). Al Davis (his team hasn’t been relevant since the 60s and 70s).
Again Zap, thanks!
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by dcrespo7 on Sep 24, 2009 4:33 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree about the Giants game...
I was at the Charger game a few weeks before that when the Broncos advanced to 11-0. Elway threw FIVE interceptions, but still won 31-16. The only time I ever saw Elway in person and he stunk. lol The wind gusts were like 50 MPH tho…we had a hurricane later that week I believe. A rare hurricane in San Diego… Anyways, TD was a stud and I was just happy to be there for my first NFL game. ;-)
I recall being somewhat relieved the Broncos lost too…as much as I wanted perfection…I wanted a repeat Super Bowl more. What a magical season that was!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Amen
Still get chills thinking about that season. Both of those Super Bowl years, actually, and how dominant and memorable it all was. From the helicopter 1st down by Elway, to beating the reigning SB champs and NFL MVP (Favre). Only to follow it up with an NFL beat down 14 – 2 campaign the next year and then getting our own SB blowout of an opponent as a mini payback for our previous blowouts. TD’s 2000+ yards, Elam’s 63 yard FG, …. and on and on. Just great stuff. And no matter what, that can never be taken away from any of us who experienced it. Can’t say it any better… simply magical.
"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)
by RockyMtnHigh on Sep 24, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions
To this day...
Just really disappointed w/the MSM because at one point they were just reporting results. Now everything requires an opinion, like a bunch of Howard Stern wannabes.
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Interesting thing about the "Moreno hold-out"
some MSM stories seemed to want to make it a big deal, when all he was doing was following the advice of his agent to see what the guys drafted above him were going to sign for . . . and the sticking point was Crabtree’s holdout. But that was ignored in favor of trying to spin one more problem in Denver.
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and seeing what a team guy Moreno is and how much he likes football. This guy wasn’t a holdout troublemaker.
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Let's just forget about the MSM and focus on what really matters...
preparing for the raiders!!!!!!!
But, my opinion on this whole matter is that the MSM will never stop. When they see something wrong, they exploit it. Even the smallest matter, they try to find it. I just stop listening to them as much as I possibly can.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Im glad
that the MSM largely ignores the success of the Broncos. I ignore the MSM for the most part. I don’t need them because of sites like this. Let me share a story of why I like my Broncos coverage the way it is.
I work in a sports bar where we wear hats of our favorite sports team. A fellow worker wears a Red Sox hat. I cannot think of a team that gets more coverage or has more positive spin on everything they do. One day my friend was serving one of his tables and the woman asked him, “What does that B on your hat stand for?” he replied, “It’s the logo of my favorite team, the Boston Red Sox.” She said, “Oh, that’s my favorite team!”
True story. I’m glad that we don’t have any fans that can’t even recognize our logo. We don’t need fans that only care because ESPN told them to. We are perfect the way we are. No use complaining about the MSM, just ignore it because there are so many other places to get your info now.
Can we get a moratorium?
Is it necessary to get really upset at the “MSM” every day? I see it on here daily, how horrible the “MSM” is and how they were wrong and you were right…
Why are people so darned focused on that? I promise you there is no vendetta among the reporters in Denver. They would MUCH rather see a Broncos win than the Broncos lose. It makes their job much easier. And ESPN’s analysts didn’t pick the team to finish toward the bottom of the standings because of any bias… They did it because, if we were truly honest, the team was likely to finish toward the bottom of the standings (and still might).
Please, please, please, please, please, please STOP talking about it. Focus on the team and not the guys covering the team. It’s really annoying and it is getting worse with each day. That goes for random fans who write and it goes for the staff (ESPECIALLy TB… We get it. You’re the smartest football fan ever. No need to keep pointing it out. We wouldn’t want to go in the archives and find out every time YOU’VE been wrong. Focus on the games).
I don’t mean to be a troll… This is just getting old. The team is 2-0. The weather is beautiful. College football is in full bloom, hockey is about to start and NBA breaks for training camp shortly and the Rockies are about to start the playoffs… Must we focus on the “MSM” on an hourly basis? I get the distinct impression that people would rather read ‘positive’ news stories about the team than see the team do positive things.
And to pretend that the Broncos are one of the small teams is ridiculous. The Broncos are one of the 10 most popular teams in the league (in part because of geography… There are no teams in a lot of states that border Colorado and the Broncos were a dominant team for 20ish years).
Let’s focus on the team. Not the media.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 24, 2009 10:16 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
This this this this this this this this this this this.
And more of this.
Another voice of reason. Thank Roy.
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by A.J. Haefele on Sep 25, 2009 4:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I couldn't agree more. Rec'd
Go look at other team’s fan websites. There is no other way to look like a rube homer with no perspective than to angrily complain that your team is getting dissed by the national media. There are people like this in literally every fan base in the country, with the possible exception of NY.
NY is worse...
Teams are dissected down to the very practice player. What makes it more annoying are the homers who believe their draft picks are going to amount to the legends of the past (w/o having seen one snap of college ball). I gave up on 1050 because its either Giants/Jets all day and oral flattering that doesn’t stop or the occasional rant against my Broncos or the AFC West as a whole. Makes me want to speed west!
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my point was
That New Yorkers are about the only people in the country who don’t have some members of their fan base complaining about disrespect in the media, because of the very reasons you stated.
The nature of 24/7 internet age is that everything that happens week to week gets blown way out of proportion by the media. I think we should all just get used to it, and accept it. Complaining that the media is “dumb” or that they don’t fall down at the feet of the Broncos to worship them is like complaining that the sky is blue.
(also, my post above should have said “no better way” not “no other way”)
Great statements dcrespo
I didn’t read through the comments cuz it looked like Zappa was having another conversation with himself. Lol You make very good sense. Rec’d
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