Denver Broncos 23 - Oakland Raiders 3 - Post Game Discussion
by John Bena on Sep 27, 2009 5:04 PM MDT
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| Category | Broncos | Raiders |
| Score | 23 | 3 |
| Rushing Yards |
215 | 95 |
| Passing Yards |
157 | 42 |
| Total Yards | 372 | 137 |
| T.O.P | 36:15 | 23:45 |
| Turnovers |
1 | 3 |
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very consistent
Doom plus dawk plus 9 others determined equalls the #1 D
Dawkins/Hillis Bad @ss' for life
Bengal beating Steelers late in game
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
And was booming the kickoffs.
I believe there was only one kickoff return past the 20 (mostly because most of the kickoffs were into the endzone) and that was after the last field goal in the 4th quarter. The FG’s were fairly short distances, but still he looked good, was consistent and really helped the special teams play with those kickoffs. Good overall day for Prater.
"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)
by RockyMtnHigh on Sep 27, 2009 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions
We're making a habit
of stopping kickoff returns at about the 15-yard line. Our opponents are almost better off just taking a knee.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
The all important field position batte.
Who knew that could be an important aspect of a football game? :-)
"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)
by RockyMtnHigh on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions
It keeps happening...
Each week our win is written off as unimpressive because of poor opponent quality… 2 impressive wins by Cincy now, and this Raiders team almost beat SD in week 1. Today’s domination really can’t be ignored anymore
In other news
Those bengals are just awful
LOL JK
by lolcopter on Sep 27, 2009 5:11 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Chicago scored way too soon.
sucks to be them right now…
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
Left a lot of points out there
…but played very smart. Great team win. Love the running attack. Orton plays like a winner.
Smart decisions and being safe with the ball is working pretty well so far. I’m not surprised by his stats today, and I was pleasantly surprised with our running game!!
by lolcopter on Sep 27, 2009 5:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Cincy just downed the Steelers
Anyone want to explain that we haven’t played a real team yet?
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
taking GB and then Pitt in 2 straight weeks
says something. and it also says something when we beat them in week 1 too. I don’t care if a fluke play did it, we still won.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
I Love it!!!!!!!!
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Fluke play or not
the real point is we fought a good team to a standstill in their own stadium and then won with Stokley’s smart play and their mental error.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Yep that offsets the Browns being so bad lol
Yeah, our opponents were weak… except the Cinci team who just beat the Packers and Steelers in consecutive weeks….
But I think what we’re all seeing here that’s REALLY making me believe, is the manner by which we’re winning. Sound & solid football. We’re a running team again!! That’s Broncos football. We’re running back strong! Buck & Moreno are looking like one of the best backfield duos in the league & Hillis in the wings. As advertised McD’s play calling has been excellent. A good system QB with a REALLY good O-line… and an amazingly improved #1 defense in the league!!
Sure we’re likely to struggle in our upcoming schedule, any team would. But the Broncos team I’ve been watching this year… we’re going to be ok. WOW!! I’m pretty freaking happy about this whole ‘maybe we won’t suck for the next three years!’ thing!!!!!
I’m getting that Koolaid feeling and I swear I haven’t touched a drop! Cloud nine!
BTW I remember many many years when beating the Raiders in the hole was the only good thing that would happen …but that would be enough!
BTW2 The fall of KC, the Raiders & maybe SD a little …the upcoming Broncos… Crazy. I might even begin to generate enough hope to be disappointed with a good year. Very exciting!
Go Broncos
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 27, 2009 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes we do
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 27, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
I am completely happy
We dominated! My only regret is that I had Prater on my FF bench.
GO BRONCOS
TAKE WHAT YOU CAN. GIVE NOTHING BACK!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM MDT reply actions
Dukester and Waddle on our game just now
A begrudging acceptance, more from Waddle than the Dukester — of course.
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
Dukes is a clown.
He’s never wrong. If you don’t believe me just ask him.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I still can't believe Klis and Woody were giving this one to the Raiders
have they even watched these two teams?
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM MDT reply actions
if the burrs lose to a backup qb and the seahawks
I will officially scream in laughter and awesome.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
what’s the situation?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 27, 2009 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions
The best thing about our team...
is we actually play like winners… I know that sounds cliche, but by god that’s what we’re doing. Fun game to watch! Bring on the Cowgirls!
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor
Not that I feel bad for the Raiders...
but how frustrating must it be for them when they have a good to very good defense, a stable of good RBs and yet they won’t go anywhere because of their QB and WRs….
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor
Its just too bad though
“That we did NOTHING to fix the front 7. This defense is gong to be terrible.”
Is anyone wning up to makin g that coment what .. a month ago?
time to believe, this can be a very good season.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
The 3 tight end set is awsome!
We just put 215 yards and 4.8 per carry on one of the best D lines in the League, and it was the 3 TE set that was the key. I’m really impressed with McDaniels’ flexibility as a game planner. This is a coach that uses 3 wides as a base, and now he’s using 3 TE 60-70% of the time.
I loved Marshall as a slot receiver
240# plus Wes Welcker
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
And that, my friend
is why I have reasonable, intellectual, non-emotional, non-biased confidence going into the Dallas game. (TIC). I look to my right at the 3TE set, the improving pass game, the geared up running game, the low turnover rate, the high take-away rate, the consistently very-good-bordering-on-great special teams play, the excellent run defense, the overall defensive cohesion, and the secondary moving like the proverbial Swiss watch, with Dawk making great play after great play. Then I look to my left and see McD, Nolan and gang rubbing their hands together in anticipation, leaning forward, their their heads bobbing up and down in excited anticipation, as they conspire to make more mischief for the opposition and MSM pundits………Then I sit back and I am LAUGHING, man, just LAUGHING!!!.
by idahobronc on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm happy for Cutler, he is a special talent
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
cutler???
isn’t he a body builder or something?
by SlowWhiteGuy on Sep 27, 2009 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought it was spelled with an "n"
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Oh come on you guys. Jay is a great talent
I just can’t root for him to fail
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
I can’t root for him not to fail either
by lolcopter on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually yes I can. Screw the bears, Matt forte is killing my fantasy team lol
by lolcopter on Sep 27, 2009 6:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, we win if he loses -- but it's good and very deep draft so it doensn't really matter much
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
lol
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Is this the same Cutler I know?
Just checkin’…
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
right. I still can't believe we drafgted a damn running back first.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
LOL
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
This win was sexy.
I LOVE IT!!!!!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
C'mon 4-0!!
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
IS this genius?
One week, we light up a bunch of sacks, but not much Offense. Then, we relax on the sacks, and get the INTs. THen, We put up a bunch of yards. I LOVE IT!!!!! Change. Amoeba. Whatever you call it. It’s the TRANSFORMER Broncos.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
OMG -- Pork Chop...
just wrote a Rapid Reaction about Den/Oak, and everything is about how the Faders looked horrible. The only comment regarding Denver is the final sentence: “After three games, Denver is a much better team than Oakland.”. I guess I should be happy that there were no typos in the article…
Not a single compliment to the Broncos
other than pointing out the obvious, that we’re a better team than Oakland
We're gonna be hearing this all week,
gotta get a win against a respected team.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
I believe they beat the team that...
Destroyed the Pack last week and came back on the Champs this week.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions
And they're lucky to get any props
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Why should they?
They lost to the lowly Broncos. At least it looks like they’re going to have lots of company.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
I'm sure both sides will LOVE that
=)
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
Well...
It’s hard to write when you’re crying. Give him a break.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions
that article was lame
Denver just destroyed Oakland on the ground and no comment was made regarding the offense or our defense … The media will not recognize Denver until Denver makes it so the have no choice!
That's an ignorant statement
But, then again, when it comes to the media, there’s a LOT of ignorance on this site.
Quit focusing on it. Seriously. You will NEVER be satisfied. I promise.
And Williamson did watch the game. I’ll guarantee you that. And, unlike you, I’m right. He probably had all games on the TV.
As for his angle, I’m guessing that, barring something miraculous, it was predetermined that the ‘rapid reactions’ would be written from the perspective of the home team in all intra-division matchups . Doesn’t that make sense? He’ll undoubtedly write about the Broncos later this week.
The obsession with the media is ridiculous. Just watch the games and shut up. It’s getting ridiculous. I hope the staff writers here stop encouraging it. It’s ruining the site for others and only encouraging more ignorance.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Porkchop?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 27, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
?
Zing? Really?
No. I am not him and have never met him. Frankly, I think his reporting is amateurish and riddled with cliches. But that’s an actual valid complaint, whereas blindly accusing him of not watching the team play is pretty much baseless.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh man…lighten up. This is a Broncos fan site, what are you expecting? Objectivity? The Broncos were completely trashed and bashed by the MSM and now that we’re 3-0 don’t be surprised if some fans want to gloat about it a bit. I don’t know why you’d even bother to be distraught about it.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 27, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I understand
I expect this type of behavior out of Purple Row. They’re new to success. But the Broncos have been one of the most successful and popular teams of the last 30 years. We should be better than this.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I hear what you’re saying and I don’t typically participate in the MSM bashing too much. However, this was by far the most antagonistic that I’ve ever seen the media against the Broncos and it led to an “us against the world” feeling for those that refused to believe all of the negativity. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that some of the fans are hitting back after the beating we’ve taken.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 27, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I can assure you that I focus on more than the MSM
The above statement was simply a generalized response regarding the typical MSM rhetoric. As for whether or not Porkchop actually watched the game or not, clearly my statement was speculative (not baseless) and may or may not be accurate as is your statement guaranteeing that he did. FYI, for the statement to be baseless it would have to be without foundation, I based the statement on the fact that even after the first 2 W’s his reporting was essentially reporting the MSM party line on our Bronc’s. What do you base your statement that you can guarantee he was watching on ???
"as in football so in life"
Yes, this season’s preview coverage was doom and gloom. Do you know why? Because we had a very t umultuous offseason filled with highly-publicized problems.
Certainly this is not a good reason to base all the coverage off of, but the new regime does a tremendous job of limiting information and limiting access, so, at a certain point, you have to just look at it from the perspective of a team, which was not very good last season, lost some players and replaced half the roster. How often does that work out, honestly? What proof did we have that the folks in place currently were better at their jobs than most others in the league?
Logistically, many teams make sweeping changes as the Broncos did this season each season. And, historically, it very rarely works out. Combine that with the limited access and you have zero reason to think the team would improve like it has.
The only folks who seemed to be pretty high on the team were Bill Simmons and the fans here. Kudos to you folks. I was hoping for a .500 season and now I’m hoping for a WC/division title.
Now, can we PLEASE just focus on the team? I’m begging you.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Vendetta is on!
They did not give you ACCESS, so you have no choice but badmouth the team. Priceless…
Well LD, I'd like nothing more...
However when you make remarks like “that’s ignorant” and “Baseless” please be prepared to defend your remarks. I can’t believe you’re actually trying to make a defense for Porkchop by saying that essentailly that was the conventional wisdom and considering how many other teams make changes and fail who can blame him. My point was that even after the first 2 games he held to the party line which would indicate that he either wsan’t watching or was discounting the W’s due to the level of competition. Your attempt to defend his position is actually pretty pathetic. Next time maybe you’ll reconsider your baseless and ignorant statements before you call someone out for their justifiable perspective.
"as in football so in life"
LD , you're a real enigma....
So you say that you just want to focus on the team and in this thread alone there are many opportunities to do just that and comment about the team. And yet your only response was re:the MSM posts. I just reviewed your previous posts as well and guess what, once again there you are defending the MSM again and not commenting about the team. Methinks I smell a rat !!
"as in football so in life"
The problem, Mr Davis, is that the media painted this incredibly awful picture of Denver for two months. For any fan that would seem like a lifetime. You have former players calling our front seven “garbage” and sports pundits going out of their way to interject their points about how terrible Denver was going to be this year.
There was no objective reporting, despite the claims you made, to justify the lashing we took on a daily basis. Nobody spoke of how improved our secondary would be – even though I pretty much wrote articles for them through e-mails. My points, while amateurish, we’re not unfounded and as a reporter its your job to examine both sides.
So my question to you is this – how come a 23 year old car salesman saw something in this team and professional journalists did not? I guarantee I don’t have the experience anyone on ESPN, NFLN, or the DP have in that area, and yet I figured it out.
I’ll tell you why – because the MSM had already taken a stance on Denver and couldn’t go back on it. The same reason why Denver is on everyone’s “most shocking 3-0” team list. If they lose to the Cowboys I will bet the clothes on my back that they will be crucified and everything accomplished thus far will be attributed to the weakness of the teams we faced. Even though we’re giving up an average of just over 5 points a game.
And all we’d like is to see some extended highlight reels on Sportscenter or some validation from sticking to our guns and drinking the “kool-aid” all preseason long.
And none of it is there.
So pardon us as we gloat about believing in a team that has to lose 13 games in a row to meet the expectations of what most analysts.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
I feal your delemma ...
just drink the cool aid an STFU!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
by metalman5050 on Sep 27, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions
+ 10,000
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
by metalman5050 on Sep 27, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
we’re all ignorant & defensive at times about this team we love so much.
What a nice win eh?
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 27, 2009 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
There is a lot of funny things that remind me of Red Miller
He was supposed to be an offensive mind—but enhanced Orange Crush
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Red McD?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Will we be having MHR Radio tonight?
"In the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is often useful." -Ian Faith
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEZE?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I should try to think back and do a post on Red Miller
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
It would have to wait for a time...My last daughter to marry off happens this weekend
I think I’ll be a bit busy the next few days.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
So... when is the Empty Nest Party ;-)
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa
I'll bring the cool aid!!!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
by metalman5050 on Sep 27, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Congratumalations, Mr. C!
That’s a happy occasion to be sure! Best wishes to everyone!!
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Sep 27, 2009 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Will Romo be our QB this week?
Muah ha ha ha ha
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
GOOD question.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
But McD is very concerned with depth.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Great game all around!
What’s with the hair pulling? Is that all Seymour can do? Hopefully we get Eddie involved a bit more next week but I guess what’s it matter if we’re winning. The only problem for some of these guys is that we are deep in the skill position area on offense.
Guess he's an official raider now
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 27, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
except for when he pulled his hair....... What a wuss.
Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away
by Troy Hufford on Sep 27, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Guess he
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 27, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Cowboys will have a short week to get ready for the broncos also because they play on monday nite
by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 27, 2009 5:34 PM MDT reply actions
And they have to travel.
No game in the Jerry Dome next week.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Ah but that's a week 3 game!
;)
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 11:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If this game was played in Dallas
I really wish Prater would somehow kick a ball straight into that stupic TV in the middle of the stadium.
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
I meant stupid
Jerry Jones is a big #$
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
<- Happy Camper =P
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton
get the chat room going over at:
MHR Radio coming up soon anyhow. :)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Running game is shaping up nicely
and Moreno and Buckhalter are a formidable tandem.
"as in football so in life"
running backs
moreno is going to be very good but it’s a pleasant bonus to have buckhalter running so well.
Two things
One, this win was more dominating that our win over them last year. They were never really in it. Even our “failures” were an indication of the style by which this team succeeds. The failed 4th down conversion left the Raiders in a deep hole they were unable to get out of. McDaniels went for it in the first place because he trusted his defense to preserve the advantage. As I wrote earlier, his style appears to be, “Accumulate small advantages. Give none back.” The TD was in essence a continuation of that drive, thanks to the defense. Note that McDaniels deferred on winning the coin toss, thus opening on defense. When’s the last time we did that?
Two, I had to grin when the announcers allowed that McDaniels had “the Midas touch,” because all of the new players have fit in so well. Pretty lucky, huh?
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
The harder we work the luckier we get
I feel the same way
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
And the better job McDaniels does evaluating talent
and the needs of our schemes the better they fit in.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Look, you have a bone head that beats up his asstants what do you expect. Cable and davis are idoits!
Plain and simple.
I wonder who gets punched in the face after this one.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions
raiders qb
this guy, qb russell, can keep on being the raider starter because it will just be more wins for anybody that plays against them.
So far so good...
Imagine what the front office could do with another draft and FA signing period. Excited for the first time since 05.
by T.Dot_Bronco on Sep 27, 2009 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I loved it when we deferred
Put the oakland offence against our defence right away AND get the ball after the half? Win Win. It’s all hindsight now, but I’ll take those odds any day.
I think it also showed the defence that the coaches have faith in them and they didn’t disappoint.
3-0 baby
It feels good to beat a team in my backyard!!!!!!!!!! and plus the niners lost so wont have to hear those fans either ahhhhhhhh great day now i just need a fantasy win and i’m good!!!
Mile High Salute
My thoughts exactly on the 4th and 1 Spock
Mcd showed more confidence in the D than any since the Crush. How about Bdawks fumble recovery right after our first turnover. Talk about complimentary football!
"as in football so in life"
Can't say enough about our D.
I told my wife, I can’t wait for the D to get back on the field because I could feel something special coming. Awesone.
The defense and offense
complemented each other beautifully, yes. And B-Dawk made a heady play not stepping but jumping back in bounds so his in-bounds position was legally established before he picked up the ball. Smart, smart, smart, and he did that in the heat of battle. We’ve got smart players on both sides of the ball.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
2 Pics, 2 sacks, a fumble recovery....
and completely destroyed any shred of hope that Jabba could move the ball (or should play QB).
"as in football so in life"
Broncos had more int return yards
than the raiders managed in net passing – 2 returns for 48 yards against 42 net yards – that has to be some sort of record!
We've now given up
7, 6, and 3 points, in that order. Hmmmm. So our per-game average is 5.3. We won’t be able to keep that up, but it sure is sweet.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
So next week, we should hold the Cowgirls to a safety
Then a shutout against New England
Then… negative points against the Chargers?? It’s a possibility.
"In the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is often useful." -Ian Faith
It is a natural progression
Can’t argue with that. Nice contrast to last year’s “offensive” progression: 41, 39, 34, 19, 16.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
My favorite part of watching the game ?
Watching Cable look at his play sheet for something, anything that would work and then with 5 minutes to go realizing that NOTHING was going to work against this defense and promptly calling 2 straight runs into the middle of the line. Yeah Baby !!!
"as in football so in life"
Hmmm
Futility Option Right…Red 46 Hopeless Strike Go…no…I think I will just beat the hell out of one of my assistants.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions
He had to look at the play sheet
because it wouldn’t do any good to look at the roster.“I need a QB to come in and light a fire. Oh, darn, I released him in order to give Jabba confidence.”
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Oh, by the way
today was the day B-Marsh officially rejoined the offense. I don’t think he feels left out anymore. i think he might even be buying in to McD’s program.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
I think I'll go to the post I did at the Raider's site and see if anyone wants to chat...
later friends…
I really love this win
let’s hope this game spills into the next few weeks
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Good judgment!
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Me too
And people scoffed! Who’s scoffing now!
The biggest thing for FF purposes is not only the lack of pts they’re giving up but the TO’s and sacks they’re getting. Such a far cry from last year. We’ll see if they can keep that up with some tough opps coming up but for now, they’re looking good.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Thanks Botta...you guys too!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
hey
we will be 11-5
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
Of course, we still could go 14-2 and win the Super Bowl
Not like the media will pay attention to us after that…
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
I can't believe the raider fans aren't embracing Russell!
Agreed Fans have power. I have been a Raider fan for 30 years. Today I am so frustrated it hurts. Al Davis needs to admit his mistake and get Russell out. We are a good QB from being a playoff team. I don’t think I can remember a QB play this bad in all my years of watching the Raiders. There is time left to save this season. Make the switch Al. Russell will never be a winning QB in the NFL. He is a bust. Maybe if the fans quit going to games, and the play in an empty stadium, Al will be forced to put a winning team out there. It is getting very painful to watch. Right now, this offence is an embarassment and will be the butt of jokes until Russell is out of Oakland.
From a disgruntled fan in jokeland.
Raiders fan for 30 years eh?
It’s been ALMOST that long since they won a Super Bowl. Tough ride there, son. LOL
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Raiders announcer Greg Papa on the Broncos
Hey guys, I can’t transcribe the whole thing because I was listening in the car on the way home, but I heard the Raiders radio post-game show and was pleasantly surprised to hear some of these things from their announcer Greg Papa.
He basically said, “I think we, or at least I, was wrong about the Broncos” and analyzed how his opinion turned around slowly. Said he originally felt like the Raiders were the 2nd best team in the AFC West after the Chargers and the first week didn’t do anything to change his mind (fair enough), but slowly the Broncos have been changing his mind. But the best part to hear was that he said, “With all the talk about the new coach and the Jay Cutler craziness we didn’t really talk about how many good players the Broncos brought in this off season.” He mentioned Renaldo Hill (ex Raider, of course, and criticized Dolphins for letting him go and taking Gibril W instead), Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Andra Davis, especially. Said their defense looks for real. And they have a lot of weapons on offense.
Then Tom Flores said he really liked Kyle Orton, he always wins, played for a Bears team that didn’t have a lot of weapons.
But the gist of the whole discussion was that Papa basically said that he thought the way a lot of MSM people talked about the Broncos and unlike some of those guys he’s admitting he’s changed his mind after watching the Broncos today (and last week).
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Can anyone answer a question for me?
Why is it not luck or a fluke play that Favre made and it’s a fluke play that Stokes made especially when they practice tip drills?
As far as the media goes it will always be the Bengals lost on a fluke play never mind they were dominated by the Broncs for the whole game minus 1.5 minutes
Because
one was a 40-yard throw into the end zone that Favre has made 10 other times in his career and one was a 20-yard throw that was tipped into the hands of a player.
You remember the quotes after the Immaculate Deflection? It was universally accepted that nobody had ever really seen that type of play before.
I’ve seen throws like Favre’s and I’ve seen catches like Lewis’.
That’s why.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions
True, but
Stokely is on record as saying he did break off his route and head over to the intended reciever in case BM needed a block or there was a tipped ball. That action is good football and puts you in a position to win. It is those little things that makes the difference between winning and losing. There is a little luck in every single game (not as much as baseball, but some). If you do the little things, then when it comes time to capitalize on luck, you are there.
Wherever you go, there you are.
Still
It was a fluke. You can admit it and still enjoy the play. I did and have watched it about 100 times since that fateful day.
Someone will have a play identical to Favre’s this season. I liken Favre’s play to the Hail Mary to Rod Smith against the Skins years ago. Nothing tremendous about the playcall or the routes, just a really fun time if you’re a fan of that team.
I should point out, though, that I hate Favre. A lot.
by LawrenceDavis on Sep 27, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Like a goal on a deflection in hockey right?
Like a ball that bounces off the outfileders gove into the stands for a home run?
All good plays
"Kool-Aid Kool Aid, Tastes Great, We Want Kool Aid, Can't Wait"
by littletinybroncos on Sep 27, 2009 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions
It was good luck
and Stokley was heady enough to be in position to take advantage of it. We shouldn’t try to make it more than that. Hanging with a good team at their place and being within striking distance when that pass was launched is impressive enough. Good teams take advantage of breaks. Good teams stay close enough that they can take advantage of breaks. Denver is a good team.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Favre even admitted
he had no idea who he was throwing to on that play. He said that as he moved around, he saw someone flash across and just threw it.
I give Lewis more credit for keeping his feet in the endzone and holding on to the ball than for Favre just throwing it in the general direction of some running across the field.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 27, 2009 9:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The bears are going to the super bowl thanks to the opposing team’s missed field goals!!!
Lol
by lolcopter on Sep 27, 2009 6:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Favre's play...
Was a great pass and catch. Not a fluke.
The ID – in my opinion – was a lot of luck but Denver has worked on ball security, tip drill and the like pretty hard this year. It is no accident Stokely was in position for that, as Yosemite said.
Great athletes make great plays.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, but
it could’ve been tipped anywhere else – and would’ve been an incompletion. With all the talk of tip drills, it was our good luck.
I still maintain it was preparation meets opportunity
A great play by Stokely off of a lousy play by their DBs. That’s not a fluke. It’s playing better than the other team and winning the game because of it.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 27, 2009 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree.
Good athletes who are well prepared make plays. I know a coach who says ’there’s no such thing as lady luck but if there was, she’d only date guys who work hard’.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 11:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Listenning to the post game on KOA radio...
and the host is getting pretty toasted on the cool aid right now!!! Can’t say that I blame him one bit1 I don’t care what anyone thinks about the quality of the teams we have played so far…I am just amazed at how far this Bronco D has come in such a short time.
Lets face the facts…Every team out there is comprised of PROFESSIONALS making the big bucks to try and be the best, and whenever we come away with a win, against whomever, and do it with power and decisiveness, then even the MSM has got to admit that this Denver D is becoming something special.
Ya, i may be drinking the cool aid but after a game like this…why not!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
Lou from Littleton?
Yeah he’s always been quite the homer but he’s an optimist. LOL
And like you said – today he’s right. The MSM can hate all they want – Jokeland is a great running team who was held to almost nothing today. They have a good OL that did them no good today. Their vaunted defense didn’t touch Orton all day and had no picks.
It was a pretty well rounded win for the Broncos. They can’t take that away.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Little tidbit I posted in S&B Pride
Al Davis has paid Javon Walker far more money to sit on the bench than he owes Mike Shanahan.
He has paid JaMarcus far more money to show up to camp overweight than it might have cost him to keep Chucky around.
Makes you think.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions
offensive line
clady continues to amaze me how dominant he is. seymour was a beast in the raiders opener but was driven to frustration against clady. clady got hosed last year in pro-bowl selections and this year he’s proving it.
TO did the right thing today by avoiding loaded questions...
I hate how the press is trying to smash him every chance they get. sounds like our Broncos!
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
Gets old, doesn't it? +1
Not a big TO fan, but these MSM people need to get a life.
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 27, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh you're right.
But you could tell what his answers WOULD have been. He’s not happy and this isn’t the first time he’s let it be known. This marriage is off to a rocky start.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I just wanted to divorce my lingering doubts about the D in public.
Wow, that’s liberating.
Woohooo!!!!
by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 27, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions
At least you said it.
I can’t help but notice how all those haters that were in here a month ago are nowhere to be found.
And I am waiting for John Clayton to answer me, whether he thinks we’ll lose out now to make his 3-13 prediction. LOL
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Glass half empty
I love the win but we gotta stay grounded(and I love that Dawk will keep them there)
1. We’ve faced a rusty Carson (face)Palmer.
2. Cleveland
3. El Hutto
I’m usually the optimist, but it seems like like the opp team’s are leaving a lot of passing yards on the field. We will really shut people up when we take out a passing offense running hot. I don’t think we are getting all that much pressure with the front guys without blitzing. Funny, I found myself saying “Just throw it away Kyle” and he did!
At sea level, but I'll always be a mile high.
Well...
Orton is never going to get a bust in Canton, let alone a league MVP but he’s a smart and efficient QB.
And you can say what you want about Cincy, they beat the Champs today and wrecked the Pack last week. Denver held them to six points. A win is a win.
Cleveland is the worst team in America right now, but you are supposed to beat bad teams by big margins. I’d actually have been worried had the Broncos only won by six.
And Oakland isn’t good but they have a great run game, a good OL and a stout defense. All of those things were taken away from them today. There are going to be some losses in the next few weeks but like it or not this team can play, and the MSM were plain wrong about them.
And I am proud to say that with the exception of some angry posts during the initial stages of Cutlergate, I have been on board. LOL
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions
this is the most impressive
thing about the win today. the broncos didn’t win by scheming or really even by exploiting the raiders’ weaknesses. They won by stuffing the raiders running game and having our O-line/running backs demolish the front 7 of Oakland, one of their strong points as a team.
Yeah but against inaccurate or rusty QB's
Just sayin don’t let the highs get too high. We haven’t had to play from behind yet and it’s hard to judge a team until you’ve seen it play in all conditions.
At sea level, but I'll always be a mile high.
by DaytonaBronco on Sep 27, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
But the OL was friggin AWESOME
Pass and run A++.
At sea level, but I'll always be a mile high.
by DaytonaBronco on Sep 27, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
We stack up pretty well after three games.
Now, lets see them beat Dallas. Man if they can pull that off, nobody can talk.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna fly the banner sky high
until we beat the Bolts in their hometown. Until then, I’m quietly happy.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 27, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I completely agree Montana.
I’m happy with where we are but this is no time to get a big head. The real test is still to come.
I’m trying to remain humbly happy with the understanding that there is a lot of football still to be played.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 27, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Right on
I will say this, though. I like the hand we’re playing this year. A LOT.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 27, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey,
They’re better than anyone expected and getting better. That’s all I am saying. After hearing all the hate from some fellow ‘fans’ all offseason I feel good about where they are. We all know there’s some tough losses coming but this team is better prepared right now than even most of the optiists thought.
And any time they beat Oakland I am happy as a kid on Christmas. Don’t kill my buzz man. LOL
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 11:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Nuff said! Sorry, didn’t meant to harsh your mellow! : ) lolol
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by broncosmontana on Sep 28, 2009 4:44 AM MDT up reply actions
+1+1
from one dishing out some of that hate…
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 28, 2009 5:57 AM MDT up reply actions
On Al Davis
With all the guns and ammo that the Raider fans own, you’d think that one of them would have taken out the owner by now ;)
LMAO
NO JOKE dude!!! When the fans in Jokeland wake up… Wait a minute…they did wake up because the game was BLAKED OUT!!!…LMAO
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
by metalman5050 on Sep 27, 2009 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
sorry my bad with the spellin tiing
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
by metalman5050 on Sep 27, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry but...
I had a great laugh when I realized that even the Faider fans did not want to come and watch the Killer Bronco D destroy their team! That just made the start of this game real 4 me!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
A report from the sports bar
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Normally there’s a good crowd of Raider fans at our sports bar. Lots of Charger fans. Only a few Bronco fans though the team is generally cheered by fans from other teams.
I was expecting a rowdy Raider bunch viewing the game today.
Basically though, none of the Raider fans showed up, or else they were being pretty danged quiet. They certainly weren’t wearing their colors. If they were there, it was in disguise.
The game was not broadcast locally. , so I would think they watched the game via a friend’s NFL Sunday Ticket.
Not a leap of imagination, though, to wonder if they just wanted to suffer in private.
From an Orange and Blue fan from day one (my folks were part of the original South Standers): Thank you Denver Broncos. You made us all proud to be fans.
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Dumvervil attacks again.
Two more sacks for DOOM. I can’t say it enough, I am sooooooo glad he is on our team. Two things happened besides the win and that was Marshall’s TD and Moreno getting his first career TD. Congrats Moreno.
I love this D. That is two straight games and we only allowed 3 FGs. The critics can say all they want about who we played, that is quite an accomplishment….period.
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I have these visions...
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of Mike Nolan just after he has assumed command of the Defense… he looks at tape of DOOM from last season, and a thing that hits him is: Elvis Dumervil was playing the wrong position. Hmm, thinks Nolan, #92 should be weak side outside linebacker in a 3-4. (Maybe more so in a 5-2?)
Like I said, a “vision”. Sheesh, gotta lay off these diet cokes for a while.
by nativesun on Sep 27, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bud weiser here but Doom is looking like the stud Shanahan never knew he had.
Shanahan, Fisher and the rest of these dweebs better get on board or the youngsters are going to take them to school.
I was wondering the same thing...
Did they say “we are going to run the 34” and then look at the personnel and see what they needed, or did they look at the personnel and decide what would work? I’m going with the latter. I noted during the games that Nolan played 52, 34, and 43 at times, depending on situation. I think that he looked at the various skill sets and decided that a 52 would be the most advantageous base. Whoda thunk?
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Sep 27, 2009 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
If I recall correctly
In a recent interview, McDaniels talked about the defensive plan. Basically, they wanted to go 3-4 from the beginning. They looked at the personnel, realized the roster wasn’t even equipped for a 4-3, so they decided to dump a gradual transition in favor of an immediate and full change.
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
I say...
If they manage 4-0 (albeit a bit of a stretch) let him wear his suits again.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 11:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Hope we work on our red zone game a little
Sorta like last week, this week we left about 19 points on the field.
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McD this week
McD is bound to be emphasizing redzone offense this week. The team HAS to do better there. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seemed we were using power blocking rather than zone blocking when we were within the 10. Maybe that’s the problem? Maybe our OLine is just not physical enough to manhandle in the redzone? Maybe more emphasis on passing since the OLine still has great pass protection? hmmmm.
On several plays
it looked to me like, with the defensive formation, a naked QB bootleg would have been a freebie. It looks like no one is assigned to cover Orton running, ever. He won’t ever be mistaken for Jesse Owens, but I bet he could run the bootleg once in a while.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Sep 27, 2009 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting observation
When he’s running North-South Orton’s so slow he looks like he’s running backward. But he moves well in the pocket and DOES execute the bootleg well. I am thinking you’re right, they might look at that a little.
by TheMastermind on Sep 27, 2009 11:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We missed Stokely
.
Get well quick, Brandon!
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