simply because ESPN’s coverage of the AFC west, and the AFC west blog in particular is imho the worst coverage of the NFL of any of the Professional Sports sites. Seriously, these people are getting paid for this !

As a consumer I simply want better.

I honestly cannot remember the last time I read anything written by the esteemed Mr. Williams that I felt smarter or came away learning more about any of the AFC west teams after reading his ‘coverage’

Compound this with his frequent spelling errors, dangling participles, ridiculous overstatements of the obvious (duh!) and just an overwhelmingly lack of professionalism as a journalist, again in my opinion, and you can’t help but wonder if the guy didn’t come by his nickname quite honestly.

Anyways, rec’d your post.

As long as we win who cares. Having a lot of the negativity nancies having to tone down their nonsense solves a tonne of problems. Not many trolls here today, thank god.

But I think it only fair to point out that Schefter called our front seven garbage and Clayton knows less than I do about football and I’m a girl. nyaaah.

Whatever we are Broncos fans. That makes us the cream of the crop anyways.

that is deeper than any thought Jamie Dukes has ever had, so I wouldn’t knock that comment too hard. I am also quite fond of Colin Cowterd and I will fight to the death to keep it! :P

I understand the mentality of trying to keep everything “classy”, but I am of the opinion that as long as the R-rated material isn’t used then its not that big of a deal. If you don’t like the slanders like Cowterd or Porkchop, then don’t read that persons stuff.

I’m not going to stop using my inflammatory rhetoric until those morons in the media do. Every week, Cowterd gives another excuse as to why the Broncos suck just four days after telling us why they will lose. He is a moron and I am not going to take the high ground…I leave that for other people. lol

Also keep in mind, hundreds of us are out of state Bronco fans. I live in California so my only Bronco connection is espn radio, raider radio, or national media, or MHR. I love MHR, but I can’t help listen or watch the other stuff because I am also a fan of the NFL as well as the Broncos….MHR is a good place to vent too for us out of towners.

In some respects, MHR folks have developed a team concept. It is our team against the MSM. When the MSM is flat out wrong, we point that out. When the MSM is proven to be wrong, we gloat. It may not be polite, but it is what it is. We refer to the faiders, the pissburgh stoolers, the dolts, the bangles, etc. Why not diss the reporters? Now, if anyone disses on a Bronco, then we rightfully take umbrage and these writers shall not escape unscathed when we “strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.” (thank you Pulp Fiction )

so please, bare with me.

Respectfully, I’ll bear with you but my hot tub is out of order.

They open their mouth’s and spew out idiotic material that’s what they get. Stupidity knows no boundary and if they stay stupid then they are stupid.

1. “Let’s shy away from personal attacks” – Pork Chop is not in reference to his huge weight problem, it is just noting that his brain works about as well and a cold, thick, lifeless slab of, well, Pork Chop.

2. “Utilize the intelgent observation this blog has become known for” – OK, Jamie Dukes is "1) an utterly stupid or foolish person. 2) Aperson of the lowest order in a formerclassification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less that three years old…(Idiot for short)

3. “Give praise where it is warrented” – I agree with all of the ones you mention and there are more as well…I think that MHR does a pretty good job of praising these people.

4. “Have fun” – That was fun!!!…LOL

disabled. We should cut him some slack. Having nothing but air inside the cranium is such a sad thing.
   
Seriously, RochyMountainThunder (love the name), while I did not use a derisive label, but neither did I re-state the arguments about his “analysis” and opinions that have been stated so often it seems a waste of time. Nonetheless, I would not do this to his face, either, out of simple courtesy. So…… is this something that falls beneath the MHR standards as you view them?
IMO, the behavior your are referring to is often (not always) simply short-hand for getting the message across without having to restate it. Your point on personal-attack-nicknames is well taken IMO. We sure don’t like them when applied to…. say …maybe…. McDaniels. That will usually get a rise here.

Please don’t dump Dukes in with us. He’s not our fault and it isn’t nice. Many of us are quite bright.

I’m kidding, but it’s still true….lol

I don’t recall which show, but it was on local “The Fan” after the first game Someone called in complaining that the show hosts were being overly negative. They absolutely ripped into the caller and made him out to be foolish because it was their “job” to be “objective” rather than to be “fans.” They had been in fact relentlessly negative about the Broncos. The caller could have presented his argument better, but the point is that the listening audience has a long enough memory span to remember their previous statements. And their fan base WILL turn on them now and even more if the Broncos continue to win.

I have felt that some MSM writers operating anonymously have come to the site in the last few days and pled for better treatment from MHR. Anyone else feel that?

If that is you, dear MSM writer, I welcome you. We rely on you for many things. All we ask is that you be truly objective and support your opinions with facts. Just like we ask the same of MHR members. If we call you derogatory names, then …. PLEASE …. TAKE IT PERSONALLY! Stop being a jerk and start living up to the highest standards of journalism. You will note from numerous posts and daily Horse Tracks that good articles, whether positive or negative, are regularly recommended IF they are well written and supported. BTW, I know of at least one MSM writer than does regularly visit and I’ve NEVER heard him called a derogatory name.

I get tired of hearing about how the MSM is against the Broncos. I feel like I am in a Fox News chat room with all of the MSM complaints. I would avoid the MSM posts but they are ubiquitous. The MSM is very easy to understand. There are those that love the teams they covered when they were beat writers and many that still love the teams they used to play for and all in the MSM simply love to follow what others in the MSM have already said. But hey, they have a lot of teams to cover and still need to have a family or beer drinking life. They can only give shallow and often incorrect opinions. Who cares. We are the down flavor of the day. Heck, we have been unjustly the upflavor for many years when we didn’t deserve it…but none in the MSM would bother to truly analyze what the Mastermind was doing in Denver. He’s the Mastermind, therefore the Broncos deserve high rankings. After we win a few more, they will quit talking about us (with no apologies) and they will have a new whipping boy or 2 (Thanks Redskins). Who cares. The MSM is just that simple. They are not worth the venom that we seem to spew on them….they get paid for shallow and near-sighted observations.

Well that is the part in this post that I can get my teeth into…well, if I still had teeth that is…

I am looking at what has happened to date! Not just how we have started out this season (a little luck the first game, improving in the second, and then even more in the third) but what we put up with during the dreadful summer months!

Have U forgotten how badly our owner was bashed for the "very astute’ decisions that he made, and then, since the MSM had already made up their minds prior to anything happening, WE had to tolerate almost all of them slamming EVERYTHING that the new coaching staff did during the summer!

STUPID is not to strong a word used to describe all of that. Did that word suddenly get expelled from Websters or does it still have meaning?

I made a prediction about what was going to happen this year,,,way back in the summer when all this was happening, and certain people told me that I should post it as a post and so I think I will… it is all about the MSM EATING CROW!

Thanx for the thoughts but, until the msm gets squared away, then U WILL continue to see “like bashing” happening! LOL and keep it commin Zappa

Well, it’s the difference between being funny and not being funny. Now we are talking about the philosophy of comedy, which, by itself, isn’t funny to talk about. Imagine a group of comics standing around trying to figure out why their joke is funny or not.

How can one comedian say something and the entire building is laughing, and another person say something a little differently, and people are offended?

I hate to give away trade secrets, but it’s about hyperbole. And it’s not to be taken literally. This is why timing is so important.

Let me give some examples, for those who are neophytes at comedy, or who just don’t know how the hell to laugh.

Let’s say I put up a post tonight that is simply this:

Bill Williamson is a big fat fatty fatso who doesn’t know anything about the Broncos.

Well that’s not so funny, even though it’s hyperbole and perhaps I was trying to be funny.

But now, if I use a little comic philosophy and I incorporate this hyperbole into some twist, and perhaps using the ‘rule of three,’ it can be totally hilarious. For example:

Bill Williamson wrote about the Chargers, he wrote about the Raiders, but then he ate the rest of his blog.

Now we are on to something and folks know it’s not to be taken literally.

Anyway, my point is that funny and offensive are a pretty fine line. If you dare walk it, make sure you have the proper tools, you’ve got clean living in your past….and you wear a cup (rule of three)….

but I would hate to see some of the great comments that make me laugh so much!

The question for me is can anyone here actually prove that Jamie Dukes ISN’T an idiot? :-)

You know i realize as I wrote that, that that isn’t fair and it is offensive.
I am sure a lot of other idiots do not like being lumped in with him. ok just kidding, maybe ;-)

Nice post RMT and while I applaud the intent of your article (keeping the MHR brand pure and above the norm), I couldn’t disgree more with your proposed ground rules. Just a couple of quick points.1) Most of the anti-MSM hyperbole is well warranted due to the complete lack of professional journalism that is frequently exhibited. 2) MHR is a fan based web site so exactly how do you expect the general population to respond to such blatant negativism? Remember the majority of the members here are well informed, football savy BRONCO fans who have been totally abused not only by the MSM but also by the pessimists who chose to call MCdaniels every possible negative term they could put a Mc in front of BEFORE HE EVEN COACHED HIS FIRST GAME! So please don’t be critical of those fans who choose to respond in kind after the actual games are played…. it’s called reciprocity my friend.

I won’t deny it. I can actually watch NFL Gameday Final on Sunday’s because I just tune out everyone’s voice but his. He cracks me up, good clean humor and never targets his puns at any particular team or player, he gets everyone equally. I like Rich, he seems like a good guy.

The MSM will follow the story of the minute (see Michael Vick) to the point of absurdity. They don’t love or hate Denver any more than any other team, but the Jay Cutler story was far and away the “juciest” of the offseason. They ARE bandwagoners. Once the conventional wisdom is introduced in the media, all of the lemmings will parrot the same sentiments over and over again.

So the idea that Denver was making a mistake with the Jay Cutler trade (which still remains to be seen, imho) became popular, and it was the biggest story of the offseason. Therefore, many Denver fans feel that the team was unfairly persecuted by the media.

The media loves to overly glorify winners and mercilessly slam losers. But the bottom line is all of this is noise. What happens on the field is all that matters. “Respect” in the media is utterly useless, ultimately fleeting, and has exactly nothing to do with what happens on gameday.

how quiet the MSM has been about the Broncos since our third win?

I have a newsreader that pulls headlines from a couple of different MSM sports sites, and Monday morning & this morning, they pulled in a headline about 15 of the games. The Denver-Oakland game is the only one that had absolutely nothing show up.

Go figure.

I love pork chops….

I spent some time excoriating Clayton last week, but since that’s like stealing a candy bar from a developmentally challenged baby chinchilla, I have no interest in continuing with that tack this week.

was brilliant!