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Denver Broncos'  Knowshon Moreno, top, leaps over Oakland Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha during the fourth quarter of an NFL football game in Oakland, Calif., Sunday, Sept. 27, 2009.(AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

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4 months ago: Denver Broncos' Knowshon Moreno, top, leaps over Oakland Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha during the fourth quarter of an NFL football game in Oakland, Calif., Sunday, Sept. 27, 2009.(AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

Happy Tuesday, friends and welcome to another edition of Shallow Thoughts & Nearsighted Observations, where we're always aiming to deliver the best thing since Starks in Clark's Wallabees.  It's a feel-good Tuesday, right?  Our Broncos are 3-0, but it's a much more legitimate-feeling 3-0 than last season's version.  The respect is still slow in coming, but it's coming bit by bit.

The most important thing I've witnessed happening is a growing confidence and self-respect among our fan base.  MHR is mostly known as a positive-thinking community, so maybe a lot of us were on the feel-good train earlier than others, but I can feel it really starting to take hold.  Contrast that to Cleveland (where most are aware that I reside).  The feeling around here is just awful, and we can all be glad not to be feeling that way.  It's on to the Cowboys game, but first let's do this thing here.  Ready.... BEGIN!!!!

1.  I was browsing through my Facebook news feed on Sunday night, and I saw this gem from NYCBroncosFan (Later posted on MHR by John Bena):

"Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

Doesn't have a grasp, huh?  That's a really, embarrassingly arrogant comment, because if you're commenting on other people's "grasps," it necessarily follows that you fancy yourself an expert, who is far beyond mere grasping of the operative subject.  I spent some time excoriating Clayton last week, but since that's like stealing a candy bar from a developmentally challenged baby chinchilla, I have no interest in continuing with that tack this week.  At some point, the referee calls the fight, and I'll take a bloody win by TKO.  It's his blood, and not mine, after all. 

Star-divide

What I want to talk about in this prime ST&NO real estate today is the idea of team building.  For one thing, what in the world would John Clayton know about building a football team, any damn way? 

OK... sorry about that.  I guess I need to work on impulse control.  Let me start again.  New paragraph.

Deep breath.  And another.  OK,  beginning again, in a more measured tone, I didn't tweet a whole lot on Sunday (@TedBartlett905) because I spent a lot of the game on the phone with my brother Chris, a Los Angeles-based fellow Broncos fan.  He's a smart guy (it runs in part of the family), and we were talking about team building.  His fanhood of Correll Buckhalter continues to grow, and he said that his impression was that Buckhalter was a winning player, and that he never perceived him that way in his Philadelphia days. 

Some discussion ensued, and he said one of his classic, succinct "Chris things" that he bestows upon the world sometimes. 

"Building a team isn't about getting the best players, it's about getting the right players."  Chris Bartlett, September 27, 2009

Riddle me this, friends.  Who is the worst player on the 2009 Broncos?  That's a tough question to answer, because whoever it is, he is a pretty good football player.  As far as I am concerned, this team has zero bad players on it.  Now think back to last year.  It was a horror show of bad players on defense, right?  There were at least 5 starting by the end of the year, and another starting at RB, after all the injuries.  Think how many of these players are out of the NFL now, who didn't even get a sniff of a training camp this year.  Nearly all of them.

CBS showed a graphic of the sources of player acquisition for the Broncos' 53-man roster.

 

 

2009 Free Agency 17 32.08%
2009 Trade 3 5.66%
2009 Draft 9 16.98%
2009 College Free Agent 1 1.89%
Holdovers 23 43.40%
Total 53 100.00%

 

That is an astounding amount of turnover, but it represented the importation of the right players, if not necessarily the best players. Instead of Channing Crowder, we got the much cheaper Andra Davis, who has been great for the Broncos through 3 games.  Instead of Albert Haynesworth or Chris Canty, we got the very cost-effective Ronald Fields, who has also been outstanding.  Derrick Ward?  How about Buckhalter instead?  Only two somewhat highly-priced players were brought in via Free Agency; Brian Dawkins (5 years, $17 Million) and Andre' Goodman (5 years, $20.4 Million), and both of them have been worth their weight in gold.  (To get all finance-nerd on you, Dawkins weighs 210 pounds, which is 3,062.5 Troy Ounces.  Gold traded at 990.42 USD per Troy Ounce on Monday night, so I just valued Dawkins at $3,033,161.25, which is pretty close to the average annual value of his contract of $3.4 million.  Funny how that worked out.)  :)

When you know exactly what you want to do on the football field, and you know exactly how you want to do it, you can go out and decisively get the right players to do those things in those ways.  Of course, your ability to project the fit of the new players, and evaluate their talent is key.  For my money, every single player whom the new Broncos staff signed, drafted, and traded for has performed EXACTLY as expected, if  not better.  The only bust was J.J. Arrington, who didn't recover well from an injury and cost $100,000 (and nobody was counting on him too much, anyway).  It was $100,000 well spent, because a healthy Arrington would be a contributor on this team, and they weren't expecting him to necessarily be healthy anyway.

There is no glaring weakness on this whole football team.  That's a lofty statement, but I think it is a true one.  The Broncos can run and throw, from big or small personnel groupings.  They can stop the run and the pass, and be effective blitzing both and dropping, in base personnel or sub packages.  The special teams have been excellent, through 3 games, even if I am a little reluctant to call that a sure thing yet.  How many teams can say all of that?  I can't really think of any, beyond the Giants and the Ravens.  Maybe the Broncos' strengths aren't as strong as some other teams', but their weaknesses are mostly less weak.  You'd better bring your "A" game when you play this team, because they're going to compete with you. 

The 2009 Denver Broncos are a good football team, and they can compete with anybody in the NFL.  This fact becomes clearer all the time, which is to say that most people still aren't hip to it, yet.  They'll get there, though, eventually.   Thinking ahead to 2010, anybody the Broncos bring in will be to upgrade a position of some strength.  To me, that is a textbook way to build a team.  As for John Clayton, I wonder when Josh McDaniels gets his apology, for the mean-spirited, myopic, and idiotic comment of April 23rd.  I am betting on never.

2.  Information From My Eyes - Denver at Oakland Edition:

a.  I was just saying how the Broncos don't have any particular glaring weaknesses.  An area where they can (and need to) perform better is in short-yardage running.  I thought Russ Hochstein looked pretty bad as the goal-line FB for 3 straight plays; I want to see Spencer Larsen back filling that role if Peyton Hillis is going to be the ball carrier.  I actually think that Knowshon Moreno could be the better option, though.  He runs with quickness and violence, and I think he can be really effective down at the goal line.

b.  Jabar Gaffney was a fantastic acquisition, and he continues to make key plays for the Broncos.  He would be the number one guy for the Raiders if he'd signed there, and the Crypt Keeper wasn't setting the depth chart.  I am glad he signed in Denver and that he plays a great deal for the Broncos.

c.   Renaldo Hill has been such an unsung guy throughout his career, but he's a really good player.  He is always in the right position, and plays the game with awareness and intelligence.

d.  Does anybody realize the the Broncos' defense is now number 1 in the NFL in both yards and points per game?

e.  I'll talk more about Ryan Clady in the Between The Lines segment, but he tied an NFL record Sunday by posting his 19th consecutive game from the start of his NFL career without allowing a full sack.  The player he tied is Ryan Young, a forgotten former Jet, who began his career in 1999.  It says here that next week, Mr. Clady will dominate DeMarcus Ware, as he did in the 2008 Preseason, and he'll hold the record alone.

f.  I'd like to see Eddie Royal get the ball more on offense, and I am sure I am not alone in that camp.  It just seems to me that the Broncos were sure they could run the ball at will against Cleveland and Oakland, and decided to follow that plan without a lot of deviation.  When you get substantial leads, passing seems more risky than what you want in the second halves of games.

g. I didn't think RIch Gannon was particularly critical of the Raiders Sunday, and I wonder if John Herrerra's clownish typical ploy worked, by chastening Gannon's commentary about his former team.  It's pretty ridiculous that the Raiders are so allergic to criticism, and the better way to avoid it is to lose the Commitment To Sucking.

h.  I usually get things right, and I still think JaMarcus Russell can salvage his career and be a good QB.  I have to say, though, that ever since I said that he looked good in Week 3 of the preseason, he has played terribly.  He clearly isn't playing with much confidence right now, and it is incumbent on the Raiders' staff to set him up for success by asking him to do things he is comfortable doing.  My understanding is that they're messing with Russell's mechanics a lot in practice, and while he definitely needs refinement,  the regular season is no time for overhauls.

i.  Could Darrius Heyward-Bey possibly look more clueless on the field?  That guy is a project, because he doesn't know how to run routes, and he's inconsistent catching the ball.  Louis Murphy is better than him now, and probably always will be.  Of course, Murphy didn't have too great a game Sunday, either.

j.  Nice job of holding by Brett Kern, as two Lonie Paxton snaps weren't too great.  Matt Prater did his job Sunday, which should keep his critics temporarily at bay.

k.  Has anybody else noticed that the Broncos' captains aren't wearing the "C" patches?  I was under the impression that doing so was a Roger Goodell mandate.  Does anybody know more than me about this? 

l.  I also noticed (last week) that the Broncos' name wasn't painted in the end zones at Mile High, and all there were were the diagonal stripes.  I didn't really care for the look, and I wonder what the rationale for it is.

3.  Information From My Eyes - Other Games Edition:

a.  The Patriots sure have been struggling in goal-to-go situations the last couple weeks.  I think if I had Randy Moss, I'd definitely be looking to hit some fade routes on teams down there.  Part of the problem is definitely that their line isn't getting the same push as in past seasons

b.  Brian Williams was released by the Jaguars, but still looks pretty useful to me.  He broke up a deep ball to Randy Moss that would have been a sure TD, and generally looked to me like a solid player.  For the Patriots, they were in on the Jaguars Retreads Act too, with Fred Taylor looking very good, and getting over 100 yards and a TD.  Taylor is a formerly great player, who has declined to being merely a good one, but he was a classic Patriots bargain acquisition.

c.  Ryan Mouton for the Titans may be playing himself out of a job, and he personally cost his team the game against the Jets (with help from Kerry Collns).  Mouton hasn't shown much positive in the return game, and has shown trouble holding on to the football.

d.  As for Collins, he was in a no-win situation, but he needed to play better.  Sunday's game was a classic case of the game getting away from the better all-around team early on, and causing them to play from behind, to their operational detriment.  Collins is not built to play like that, and he responded accordingly.

e.  I haven't seen a lot of the Redskins this season, so I watched a bit of the Detroit-Washington game Sunday.  The Skins are getting atrocious play from their offensive line, and are another team that should have taken Michael Oher.  Jim Zorn has faced a lot of criticism for his scoring area play-calling, but the fact is, if the line doesn't block anybody, Clinton Portis can't pound the ball in.

f.  The Lions are on the right track, and it's clear how much better coached they are than they have been - maybe ever in my lifetime.  Matthew Stafford, Kevin Smith, and Calvin Johnson are an outstanding trio on offense, and Brandon Pettigrew is another nice weapon.  The Lions need more talent to be a real contender, but they will steal a few more wins this season, like they did on Sunday, and add to their talent base in the next offseason.  They'll grow up with Stafford, and finally be a legitimate team.

g.  Tampa Bay is a terrible team right now, especially on defense.  Tim Crowder is playing significant snaps for them, which speaks to their relative talent level, when he was the odd man out in Denver.  Even a good play, like Sabby Piscitelli's tackle for a loss on Brandon Jacobs to force a FG rather than a TD is wasted, because the Bucs can't put together any kind of consistent performance in the other phases of the game.

h.   Percy Harvin is a dangerous, dangerous player.  He never returned kickoffs at Florida, because the best kick returner in America, Brandon James, was there, too.  Harvin took one back 101 yards in the third quarter Sunday, and looked like he was born to do it.  He has now scored in every game this season, and could challenge Mark Sanchez to be Offensive Rookie of the Year, if he keeps it up.

i.  The 49ers got their own huge special teams play, when Ray McDonald blocked a FG attempt and Nate Clements took it back 59 yards for a TD as the first half ended.  Both of those special teams plays felt like huge momentum shifts, and neither particularly ended up affecting the final score, thanks to Brett Favre's heroics.

j.  A young defensive player I like a lot is Thomas DeCoud, a Safety for the Falcons.  He was a third-round pick last season, and he showed very well against the Patriots on Sunday, especially in breaking up a well-thrown Tom Brady-to-Randy Moss deep ball.

k.  The Cincinnati Bengals look real to me, as real as Carson Palmer can make them.  The big surprise to me is how well their offensive line is playing, even without top draft pick Andre SmithAndrew Whitworth is better than I thought he was, and he's doing pretty well at Left Tackle, even if James Harrison did get him once for a sack on Sunday.  When Smith gets healthy, he'll step right in at RT, and they'll be even better, because he can blow guys off the ball.

l.  For more Bengals fun, the winning Touchdown was caught by another ST&NO Favorite, Andre Caldwell, who is turning into a nice WR.  He was a great player throughout his career at Florida, his brother Reche played in the NFL, and you have to love a WR whose nickname is Bubba.  He is part of a really good group, along with Chad Ochocinco, Chris Henry, and Laveranues Coles (yet another ST&NO Favorite), and he makes the Bengals that much harder to defend, especially when you remember to worry about the highly underrated Cedric Benson.  If I were the Bengals' offensive coordinator, I'd be going 4 wide with Benson all game long, and making teams try to stop me from running with their sub packages.  The Bengals' coaching budget is too light to have that much creativity, though.  It costs money, after all.

m.  The Steelers defense really misses Troy Polamalu from a scheme perspective, because his presence allows them to do a lot of the exotic blitz packages they normally do.  Polamalu is one of the very fastest players in the NFL in pads, and can consistently show blitz, and get to deep center field from there at the snap.

n.  I think the Cardinals lost the Sunday Night Game on one play, when Tim Hightower fumbled inside the Colts' 5-yard line in the second quarter.  If they scored, they'd have taken a 10-0 lead, and instead, the Colts just took off after that play.  I question the mental toughness of the Cardinals team, and especially Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, who seems like he doesn't want me to be right in praising him a few weeks ago.

o.  Donald Brown is a much better player than Joseph Addai in all phases of the game, and it's absolutely no accident that he's getting the crunch-time snaps for the Colts, even if Addai is nominally the starter.

p.  Dwight Freeney's injury could be catastrophic for the Colts, if he has to miss a lot of time.  A lot is made of how irreplaceable Bob Sanders has been in years past, but I actually think Melvin Bullitt does a really nice job filling in for him.  Freeney is the irreplaceable one for the Colts, make no mistake about that.  If they can't rush the passer with 4 men, they're suddenly as vulnerable against the pass as they are against the run.

q.  The Ravens are hitting on all cylinders right now, and look like the best team in the NFL, to me.  I don't think they miss Rex Ryan too much, as it looks like Greg Mattison has their defense playing just as well as Ryan did.  Mattison isn't well known to NFL fans yet, but he's a great coach (I am familiar with him from his college days).

r.  Brady Quinn is not the problem for the Browns, and neither would Derek Anderson be, although Quinn is better.  I talked about how the Broncos hit on all of their offseason acquisitions - well, the Browns missed on all of theirs, from the looks of things so far.  They're talent-poor, and they look like they know they are losers.  It's going to be a long season here in the metro area, but at least the locals are used to this.  I can't imagine how Eric Mangini and George Kokinis evaluated this to be a competitive group of players.

s.  Stick a fork in the Dolphins, even before Chad Pennington was lost for the season.  Chad Henne is not the answer, and he'll prove that as the season goes on.  Pat White isn't either, as a full-time QB, so I expect Miami to be shopping after this season, with a high first-rounder to spend.  After passing on Matt Ryan in 2008, you wonder if they'd do it again.

t.  Darren Sproles proved once again that he is a second banana, and not a lead back.

u.  The longest run the Broncos have given up this season was 20 yards, to Cedric Benson.  If Felix Jones is healthy next Sunday, and the Broncos miss setting the edge at an inopportune time, that could go out the window.  The only RB who's more dangerous to the outside is Jones' draft classmate Chris Johnson, and it's not a very big difference.  Jones strained his left knee on a 40-yard run in the 3rd quarter Monday night.

v.  You know who has developed into a terrific player is Thomas Davis, who was a first-round pick as a Safety for the Panthers in 2005.  It took him awhile to learn how to play LB, but he has really turned into a Pro Bowl-caliber guy.  He is excellent in coverage, and really hits guys.

w.  I only saw the very end of the Seattle-Chicago game, and didn't care enough to record or watch the Short Cut.  What I saw though told me what I already knew, which is that Seneca Wallace isn't good enough to be a backup QB in the NFL.  When he was forced to throw the ball from the pocket in a compressed-time situation, and beat zone defense with strong throws, he was unable to do it.  The Seahawks have to know this by now, and should have addressed it in the offseason.

x.  The Texans got screwed on that offensive pass-interference call on Kevin Walter, to be sure, but Chris Brown has to hold onto the ball going into the end zone.  The Texans are a team that just can't seem to consistently do the little things to win games, which doesn't reflect very well on MHR favorite Gary Kubiak and his staff.  To be honest, doing the big things well and missing the little things is sort of Later Years Shanahan-ish, when you think about it.  I hope Kubiak and Company can get it turned around.

4.  Between The Lines

Denver Broncos at Oakland Raiders

a.  Once again, the Broncos were nearly flawless in pass protection - this time, against the best pair of DEs they've seen this season.  Kyle Orton took one significant hit, on an outside stunt by Gerard Warren, after he'd gotten rid of the ball.  Ryan Clady owned Richard Seymour, to the point where Seymour was called for a personal foul for pulling Clady's hair.  On the right side, Ryan Harris dominated Greg Ellis, as well.  Ellis came into the game with 3 sacks but never got a sniff of Orton.  The inside of the Broncos' line also held up well, against their somewhat-lesser individual competition.  Largely since the Broncos rarely had to throw, the Raiders never generated a significant rush in this game.  ESPN.com didn't even give Warren credit for his QB hit, and had the Raiders entirely shut out in their box score.

b.  For their part, the Raiders struggled in pass protection, before finally pretty much giving up on throwing the football.  I had to look up who #51 was, because he showed up in my notes several times with terrible plays.  It's Chris Morris, a natural Center, who was playing Guard.  In addition to two holding penalties, he got beaten a few times.  Mario Henderson struggled mightily with Elvis Dumervil, who had two sacks and should have had two more (Darrell Reid's hands-to-the-face penalty cost him one, and JaMarcus Russell dragged him past the line of scrimmage on another).  Robert Ayers lined up all over and got a lot of pressure.  I am really pleased with his growth.  Darrell Reid got a sack, and Vonnie Holliday and Marcus Thomas also got good pressure in spots.  The Broncos sacked Russell 3 times, and hit him 3 more. 

c.  The Broncos line also dominated in the running game, again splitting about half and half between zone- and man-blocking concepts.  The only black mark was the failure to convert 3 straight runs from the 1-yard line early in the game.  Ryan Harris was dominant in the running game, and was key to springing both of Correll Buckhalter's long runs.  Clady was his normal self, and his cut block on Nnamdi Asomugha allowed Knowshon Moreno to score his first-ever TD.  The Broncos rushed 45 times for 215 yards (4.8 per rush) and the Moreno TD.  I did think the Broncos slowed down a bit when Russ Hochstein and Tyler Polumbus played a lot in the second half.  I really enjoyed Richard Quinn's blocking, and he showed again that he is just another player who is perfectly fitting his role, as imagined when he was acquired.

d.  The Raiders came into the game with a pretty vaunted rushing attack, and it never really got going.  They rushed for 95 yards on 21 carries, but it was tremendously disjointed, and 15 of those yards came on one run by Russell.  Henderson was a bit better in the running game for Oakland, and Samson Satele showed a bit of surge a few times, too.  For the most part, though, the Broncos held the line of scrimmage, and maintained their gap discipline well.  Mario Haggan had a really nice game against the run, and forced a Darren McFadden fumble, which Thomas and Reid unfortunately failed to recover, after the three of them had combined to stack up a play.  McFadden got a couple of outside creases, but nothing consistent at all. 

e.  The Broncos dominated both lines in this game, and there was no bigger reason why they won.  It was so clear that even the fairly reticent Josh McDaniels claimed the victory in these areas. 

Green Bay Packers at St. Louis Rams

a.  I feel like I have been telling this story for two years (possibly because I have been), but the Packers are bad in pass protection.  Leonard Little beat Allen Barbre twice for sacks, and Aaron Rodgers avoided 5 other near sacks by running with the ball (he had 8 carries for 38 yards and a TD).  If the Rams were any better on the defensive line, Rodgers could have had a more-typically painful day.  I didn't see much of anything from Chris Long in the pass-rushing department, even against the underwhelming pass blocking of Daryn Colledge.

b.  The Packers disappointed in terms of rushing the passer.  Aaron Kampman got a sack and injured Marc Bulger, but the Packers never hit Kyle Boller after that.  I was really surprised, because the Rams' OT combination of Alex Barron and Adam Goldberg is decidedly below average.  Barron was solid, but Goldberg surrendered the Kampman sack and had a holding penalty, on a play where I initially wrote "great block" (The replay showed it to definitely be a hold).  Jason Brown has been a very nice acquisition for the Rams, and anchored the middle.  I really didn't see much from Clay Matthews, and I haven't yet. 

c.  The Packers' rushing stats looked pretty good, with 37 carries for 152 yards and 2 TDs.  The truth is, the gains made by Ryan Grant were very hard-fought, and only averaged 3.8 yards per carry.  The overall number is dramatically inflated by Rodgers' 38 yards and Donald Driver's 13.  Chris Long did show well in the running game, and Clifton Ryan hung pretty tough inside, but the best run stopper was S Craig Dahl, not a lineman.

d.  The Rams actually did a very nice job of run blocking, led by Jason Brown and RG Richie Incognito.  Barron and Goldberg were OK outside, but the battle was won inside.  For the Packers, ST&NO Favorite Cullen Jenkins had a disappointing game, but NT Ryan Pickett showed pretty well.  B.J. Raji was active for the first time, and I never noticed him in this game once, and I'm not even sure that he played, since he didn't register on the stat sheet.

e.  I'd give a slight edge to the Rams overall, which is mostly probably due to low expectations.  I just can't get past the feeling that the Packers are really bad on the O-Line, and it's a shame, because they're very good otherwise.  The Rams have to feel pretty good about their performance, and maybe it carries over to games against lesser competition.

5.  So, I guess this makes me something of a flip-flopper, but I am going to briefly explain a change in previously stated policy, so we're all on the same page, and nobody wonders.  I have previously declared that I would henceforth refer to several underwhelming football writers by unflattering nicknames.  I have decided to change course on that policy, and call them by their names. 

I like to think that this column is pretty good, and I don't want to detract from that.  There's no need to feed the God of Obviousness by calling people names, and I can get cheap laughs by other methods.  I will still feel free to criticize stupid things that people write, but I will call their writers by their chosen names. 

6.  Back to football, I decided to name glaring weaknesses by team, to illustrate my point in item 1.  I am limiting this to whole phases of the game, and mostly not subsets of a phase of the game.

Dallas Cowboys -  Pass coverage, Pass rush (other than DeMarcus Ware)

New York Giants - None, but pass protection is sometimes close to being one.

Philadelphia Eagles - Running the ball inside

Washington Redskins - The offensive line in both the running and passing games

Green Bay Packers - Pass protection (a major weakness)

Detroit Lions- Pass protection, run defense, pass defense

Minnesota Vikings- Pass protection, Pass coverage

Chicago Bears - The offensive line in both the running and passing games, and pass coverage from safeties

San Francisco 49ers - Pass offense, Pass rush

Seattle Seahawks - Run offense, Pass protection

Arizona Cardinals - Pass protection (a major weakness, like Green Bay)

St. Louis Rams - Everything, except for punting and place-kicking; this is the least talented team in the NFL

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Pass rush, Run defense, Pass offense

Carolina Panthers - Run defense

Atlanta Falcons - Pass defense and Interior run defense

New Orleans Saints - Pass defense (it's somewhat improved, but I don't trust it after Kevin Kolb lit them up)

New England Patriots - Pass protection, Pass rush

New York Jets - Pass protection (though it is improving)

Miami Dolphins - Passing offense

Buffalo Bills - Pass defense

Pittsburgh Steelers- Pass protection, Run offense

Baltimore Ravens - None

Cleveland Browns - Everything except special teams

Cincinnati Bengals - Pass protection (but they're improving lately)

Oakland Raiders - Pass offense, Run defense

Kansas City Chiefs - Run defense, Pass rush, Pass offense

San Diego Chargers - Run defense, Pass rush

Jacksonville Jaguars - Pass offense, Pass defense

Houston Texans - Pass protection, Run defense

Indianapolis Colts - Run defense

Tennessee Titans - Pass offense, Pass coverage

7.  Retired for John Elway

8.  I saw where ESPN Dallas was launched this week, joining Chicago and Boston as cities where the Worldwide Leader has spread.  I wonder when/if Denver gets its own site.  If it happens, their writers better consistently bring their "A" games to compete with MHR.

9.  Big up Matt Bowen of the National Football Post for being the first widely-distributed national NFL writer to admit he didn't see the Broncos coming, and that they're for real. 

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Time-to-hop-on-the-Broncos-bandwagon.html

Can the Broncos keep it going?

Sure they can. I fully understand that the early season schedule has been favorable for the Broncos, but looking ahead, they still have two games against Kansas City, one more at home versus the Raiders (three games they should win) and two big games against Philip Rivers and the Chargers.

Anybody who can divorce themselves from their preconceived notions can see that the Broncos are doing all of the little things that win games.  That's the crux of Bowen's realization, and I salute him for being the first to have the combination of acumen and guts to see it and say it.

10.  An early thought on next week's Cowboys game.  Dallas has a massive offensive line, and they tend to wear teams down by the time the second half rolls around.  That's what happened with the Panthers Monday night.  I think the Broncos will be tougher to wear down, because they use such an interchangeable rotation of defensive linemen, and there's no particular drop-off in quality when the subs come in.  Every player in the rotation is contributing, and I think it bodes really well for success in Week 4.

That's all for this week, friends.  Check us out Saturday morning for Lighting Up

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Quick note about end zones

I haven’t finished the article, but wanted to chime in with an answer. It was stated by someone (Joe Ellis, maybe?) that the stripes were in honor of the EZ design in the ‘60 season. He went on to say that they would feature other end zone designs from Broncos fields past this year as a way to celebrate the big 50’th year.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 BB

I had heard the same thing. Part of the 50 years celebration

by papasteven on Sep 29, 2009 6:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the info

It was something I wondered about, and forgot to mention last week, amid all my other brain droppings :)

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Sep 29, 2009 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: end zones

Personally, I thought the stripes were kinda cool. We got week 1 on TV out here in AZ, and the play-by-play guy (don’t remember who) confirms what BroncosBassist says. Hoping we get the vertically striped socks game out here. I’ve never seen them.

by AZDenverFan on Sep 29, 2009 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the feeling of the stripes but then again I wanted them to move the goal posts to the front of the endzone for a year…

by DickVMI on Sep 29, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The socks

They’ll be unveiled against the Pats I believe. Woo!

by NagaSadow on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t tease me now. Are they really going to wear them? They would be like a 12th and 13th defender out there.

If you watch that game in HD it might just cause a seizure….

by DickVMI on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!

That’s the week that CBS has the doubleheader so for all of you in NFC cities who’s team plays early on Fox, the Broncos will be on CBS that day.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good right up

full of good info and lots to digest. I look forward to tuesdays when I get a chance to read ST&NO. Great help for me and my learning curve. Watched most of the Dallas game and wasn’t overly impressed. McD will put them team on the field ready to compete. I think we will hold our own.

by papasteven on Sep 29, 2009 7:02 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh I forgot

Highly rec’d of course. as I said great for the learning curve.

by papasteven on Sep 29, 2009 7:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1, Thanks Ted,

Also Rec’d

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Sep 29, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job TB

As a football neophyte, I enjoy MHR for the knowledge and love the fact we’re not just another “myquarterbackisbetterthanyoursandyouguyssuckandwhywouldyoutradeafranchisequarterbackfororton” blogs/sites out there.

Keep it up and Go Broncos!

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 29, 2009 7:03 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

Good one, Hockey. DP leads the way on those. Short take…caught just a little of Dallas last night, and if we put Doom on their behemoth left tackle, Adams if I can remember (which many times I can’t), Doom’s in for another big game. That guy’s big but drops back too far on pass protection, almost right into the qb. Also they do have a really strong running game, so our guys up front have a big challenge. But as 11 guys, not just one or two or three, we’ll get the job done. And thanks TB for another awesome post! Rec’d.

by azbroncomaniac on Sep 29, 2009 7:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

To answer your question Ted:

Jarvis Moss is my choice for worst player on the Broncos.

But it’s a weird question.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2009 7:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I was going to say

Moss or Gorin. Really not too shabby.

by poorboywilly on Sep 29, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I WAS GOING TO SAY ORTON!!!!

BLAH de BLAH blah I am a SMRT Guy…….Or Ton sux. kik heem oot of her.

HAHA ok couldn’t resist. yea Moss is probably it. I can’t honestly say that even means he’s a bad player though. We really are an overall great team this year. No one especially stands out on offense alone, but I count that as a HUGE plus. Our Defense stands out like a sore thumb……covered in chocolate….and a cherry on top…and sprinkels….and mmmmmmmmmm

I mean what? uh…..* runs away *

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by DenBronx on Sep 29, 2009 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, that was funny!

I really think we’re gonna win on Sunday.

cue Tom Hanks in “A League of Their Own”: “We’re Gonna Win. We’re Gonna Win!”

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 29, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas

They looked tough, especially in the running game. It’s been mentioned elsewhere that beating them won’t do anything to help establish that Denver is a good team (ie Dallas is not a good yardstick), but watching them the last few weeks I think shutting down their run will most definitely show something. Will the Broncos be up for it? I thought the Dallas pass defense doesn’t look that good. I hope we can see success early passing to open up the run since it seems as though Dallas had a pretty good pass defense. I hope the pressure I saw on Collins was a product of a bad offensive line. What are anyone’s thoughts on these things?

by NDbronco on Sep 29, 2009 7:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

there's always excuses

If we shut down the run game they’ll just say that Barber was out and Felix wasn’t 100% and Choice is not a legitimate starter.

Though to me it looks like choice is the only reason they won this week and they only back that seems to try hard and stay healthy.

by trumanj on Sep 29, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think not in this case..

As a Cowboys fan, I’d say that if Denver does shut down the Cowboys’ running game that it’s a huge accomplishment, with or without barber. Tashard Choice ran well Mon. noght, and against the most elite defenses in 2008.

This will be a nice test for both teams.

by Diws on Sep 29, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Agree and welcome to MHR.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying the excuses are legit

just that some stupid MSM person or cowboys fan is going to make them.

Like I said I like Choice and think he was what carried them above carolina. He seems to be really working hard and I’m glad he’s getting some playing time.

by trumanj on Sep 29, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Dallas looked less than average...

Carolina is a BAD team, and Dallas had trouble putting them away.
I have a VERY savvy football wife who is a huge Dallas fan who said Denver should KILL them…even my Mother in law who also likes football said , “Nice Dallas won, but they are not a super bowl team”
The problem with all of this is that we are basing our opinions on history and reputation. There is a LOT of teams out there that are over rated.
I see one team on our schedule that will be VERY tough…and thats the Giants….but every other match up based on what has happened this season, I cant for the life of me find why we cant win.
Our O Line is better than anyones out there, with the Giants maybe being slightly better.
Based on that, who would not take our D Line vs every other team.
Every week, EVERY game will be decided on the battle of the trenches. Show me a game where we cant win, or at least come out equal with everyone on our schedule, BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW FROM THIS SEASON…..not history or reputation.
HAVE AT IT CREW!
Peace.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 29, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants

I’ve only seen one of their games..it was the one against Dallas. If their D is so good, why did they get gashed for 200+ yards. So, it’s either that Dallas has a really good running game, or they aren’t that great against the run. They were running off huge chunks against them. I would think that would indicate that they aren’t stopping at the second or third level. I guess I’m withholding judgement on the Giants until I see what they normally do against the run. That’s a major weakness that should have been exploited by the Cowboys, but instead Romo kept throwing it to the wrong team.

by NDbronco on Sep 29, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind that Giants game was a divisional rival. They play each other tough. So lets take that game away from Dallas and the Raiders game away from us. Now lets compare.

Dallas let the horrible Bucs throw 27 points up. And let’s be honest, Dallas’ best offensive weapon last night was Delhomme.

Depending on the injury news later this week, I bet Denver is favored by 5 points by Sunday.

by DickVMI on Sep 29, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't happen.

I think it will be a ‘pick’ or Dallas by 1.

You can’t just arbitrarily take away division games in evaluating teams’ performances.

Dallas is ranked #1 in rushing in the NFL, and it’s not all that close.

by Diws on Sep 29, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I'd say Dallas' best weapon

was Delhomme plus bonehead personal fouls that cost them tons of yardage. The Dallas running is pretty tough when it’s on, and opens up the passing lanes. I’m sure that is something the Broncos staff is scheming for though.

by bchiper on Sep 29, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

boydy

What about the Ravens? They look better than the Giants to me.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

But I think those are the two best teams in the league (at the moment)

If our offense continues to improve and our defense does what its been doing I would put us up there with them.

by trumanj on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens are a very good football team

and I tend to think that Pittsburgh will be again by the time we play them.

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by Broncs Cheer on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny some people in Dallas think Denver

is going to be an easy game. Some say that they haven’t beating anyone I say who has Dallas beat. I’m a life long Dallas fan I know beating Denver at Mile High is never easy.
Good luck the rest of the year,but not this Sunday.

by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2009 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant

Dallas looks like they have a pretty good RUN defense.

by NDbronco on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally disagree...

most times when the panthers ran the power game, they made easy yards.
this was just PATHETIC game planning by Carolina when you have Williams and Stewart in the backfield.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 29, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

AGREED

Use the short pass to open up the run game and then take it to them with a 3 TE power run game.

To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.

by Broncobh on Sep 29, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Carolina did not have enough of a sample size… they ran the ball 16 or 17 times. When they did run, they looked great, as Boydy pointed out

by legendarywalton on Sep 29, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if you saw the same game that I did..

But Carolina only managed a couple of long runs on 3rd and long situations with DeAngelo Williams. Their big back Jonathan Stewart was stuffed every time he touched the ball.

Dallas’ weakness is agasint the pass. Their run D is one of the better ones in the league, the 1st half vs. tampa Bay notwithstanding.

by Diws on Sep 29, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas' run D is currently at 17th, giving up 114 per game

They also gave up 174 rushing yards to the lowly TB Bucs. Their D looks like it can be beat with the run and beat with the pass. I think our D will give Dallas’ O more problems than Dallas’ D will give our O problems.

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Sep 29, 2009 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-0
but since that’s like stealing a candy bar from a developmentally challenged baby chinchilla, I have no interest in continuing with that tack this week. At some point, the referee calls the fight, and I’ll take a bloody win by TKO… That’s priceless man! I agree that our fast start feels better than last year’s. Glad to hear that people are coming around in Denver. Hopefully the TE will get more action this week.

by wisco on Sep 29, 2009 8:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha...Great job, Ted!!

You had me rolling with laughter from the start with the Starks in Wallabees reference – hilarious!

Great analysis once again. I agree with almost everything in there, and love how you always seem to point out at least a few players that weren’t on my radar. Thanks for the great work.

My two cents:
1. The Broncos LBs face an enormous challenge against the Cowboys running game. Their O-line is massive, but more importantly their backs absolutely slice the edges and that is the one place where our D has been somewhat weak so far this season (IMHO).
2. If you had to point to a weakness of the Broncos (like the other teams), it’s got to be red-zone offense – both pass and run. We can’t let things like the Raiders goal-line stand happen, as we can’t afford to let points slip away as we move on to some better teams on our schedule.
3. I think the Ravens look good too, but I think the Saints are playing like the best team in the NFL right now. They remind me a little of the 2007 Patriots – their offense is SO explosive (ie – you can’t stop it, you can only hope to contain it).
4. The Redskins are falling apart at the seams – you can probably stick a fork in them as well. Jim Zorn looks like what everyone in the MSM thought Josh McDaniels would look like as a head coach – totally overwhelmed. I agree with another post on here that Shanahan will probably show up in DC next season.
5. The Bengals and the 49ers are the real deal, and many of the play-off shoe-in teams either look weak (ie – Pittsburgh, New England and San Diego), or like total flukes (Green Bay, Tennessee and Seattle ).
6. Thanks for calling out Clayton – he has ALWAYS been an impostor.

by SteveAssassin on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on #2

Not just the faders game, but Cleveland and Cincy too.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robert Ayers

I’m glad you can find him on the field and let me know that he’s improving, because I somehow have not noticed him a single time during the regular season. To be fair, I’m usually watching Doom, because he’s so fun to watch, but if you had told me Ayers hadn’t played a snap yet I would have believed you.

Great post.

by Gorbal on Sep 29, 2009 8:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll trust ted on ayers but i feel like he loafs

maybe i’m crazy, but i feel like a number of times that ayers ran at 3/4-speed, and i don’t see the ferocity that i would like. i would rather have him err on the side of plowing a tad late into gang tackles rather than jogging in and watching the play finish up.

i thought ted’s observation about picking the “worst” player was very astute. i had a similar thought recently when considering what our biggest needs are for next year’s draft. i thought i would spend a suprising (in a good way) number of picks for future talent to replace aging talent, rather than filling glaring holes.

by ssc on Sep 29, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree again...

I am being a little combative again.
Ayers has been around the ball A LOT…and he is tying up his man that is helping us bring pressure with other LB’s and getting men into the backfield.
It wont be long when Doom is double teamed, which will help Ayers.
This is a hard system for a rookie to pick up, especially when not much 3-4 is played in college.
I like what I am seeing from Ayers…he is contributing as a rookie and thats great!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 29, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

Ayers is still learning the ropes, getting used to the speed of the game. But he’s not drawing any attention to himself by making stupid mistakes.

by TheMastermind on Sep 29, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, i don't disagree about the QB pressure

but for instance, i remember on one play, russell got flushed and rolled to his right. ayers seemed to jog after him. there was no way that ayers was going to get russell, but he should’ve gone into a full-out sprint to force a quicker decision. instead, it seemed like russell got to re-set himself by the sideline and scan downfield for a second or two longer than he should have.

i’ve said before that i’m ok with being patient with ayers, and i don’t doubt that he’s making progress. but there are the types of players that launch themselves 100 mph on every play and make sure to FINISH the plays, like dawkins, and there are those that think the play is over and pull up and stay on their feet rather than diving in for that extra (clean) hit on the ballcarrier. i’ve seen ayers be the latter, and that kinda bums me out a little.

by ssc on Sep 29, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems to me

maybe we didn’t see a need to get Russell off his feet. Maybe he was right where we wanted him to be — throwing the football. ; )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Some players who lauch themselves 100 mph on every play

launch themselves in the wrong direction a lot. On the play in which Woodyard intercepted Palmer he was at first hanging around, not going anywhere in particular as the play developed, while DJ was charging decisively towards the line of scrimmage with no chance to get to Palmer. But when the ball popped up in the air there was Wesley. He always seems to end up in the right place, yet to look at the first part of that play without knowing how it turned out one might think he looked indecisive. In reality I think he was analyzing at about a thousand miles an hour and then reacted in an instant in the right direction at the right time. I’m not saying you’re wrong about the play you described, and I’ll go back and take a look at it myself, but appearances can be deceiving.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 29, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you recall when that play was, ssc?

I’d like to check it on Rewind.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 seconds left in the first half

when the ball was hiked. Ayers is playing LDE, is spun around, then takes off after Russell when he bolts from the pocket. He looks like he’s picking up speed until Russell goes into his throwing motion, then lets up. Prior to that point he’s not chasing directly after Russell but is curling upfield to cut him off if he pulls the ball down and runs. The overall impression I get is that Ayers is playing under control and is not going to risk, even by accident, a roughing the passer penalty. The context is important, too. It’s the end of the half and the whole Bronco defense is no doubt playing under control, keeping Russell (in Ayers’ case) and the receivers (in the DBs’ case) in front of them. No disrespect to ssc but
I think he read too much into that one play, especially given the context.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 29, 2009 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's the play, I'm with you spock

And somewhat perplexed. I watched that. I didn’t think that Ayers was in any way lazy or ‘jogging’. he was doing what he was supposed to. It was 11 seconds left in the half. Russell was throwing short and the raiders were running the ball – no threat in any way to score, unless we helped them. Ayers was doing the right thing. Weird. I’ve heard a few folks questioning and criticizing him this week, but in watching the film, he has been doing quite well.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 30, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I’ve been pleasantly surprised to see Ayers’ play of late, esp. given his holdout and how lost he looked in the preseason. He’s coming along fine. DOOM getting his due will only help, and by midseason it could easily be a pick-your-poison in the pass rush.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more of a NFL guy then a college football guy,

so this brings up a good point. Not to hijack this thread, but why don’t more college teams use the 3-4? Lack of that certain type of player? Or is it just so foreign for many players coming out of high school that teams don’t want to sacrifice potential W’s to take the time to develop their D? Or, as is most likely the case, am I missing something embarrassingly obvious?

Love Doom’s motor.

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me that Ayers is (slowly) getting better every week.

The last two games showed that Ayers was a big part of DOOMs sacks. Many times the QB had nowhere to run because Ayers was collapsing the pocket opposite Elvis.

He isn’t there yet, but he’s coming along IMO.

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I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM

by jubei on Sep 29, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

56

I watched the shortcut of the game last night and one thing that stood out was Ayers. I remember at least 3 good pressures on Russell, forcing him to throw it early, including a nice spin move to beat a double team up the gut. It was good to see him have an impact.

I had a hard time finding him on the field too because he wasn’t standing up looking lost pre-snap :-). Which, I think, for the 3rd game of his rookie season, is pretty good too.

by Son of a Son of a Bronco Fan on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

On that spin up the gut

Ayers was actually lined up as a DT in a 4-3 look. He was double-teamed by the right guard and the center, broke off, spun, defeated the double team and pressured Russell. It was a great move. He’s coming along fine.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

About the C's

k. Has anybody else noticed that the Broncos captains aren’t wearing the C patches? I was under the impression that doing so was a Roger Goodell mandate. Does anybody know more than me about this?

Yes actually I got really into reading about those a few weeks ago when I noticed you rarely see a 4th star colored in. But in short back in 2002 (about) when the NFL came out with these patches it was to boost jersey sales and it has always been optional, even though most teams chose to do it, the first 2 years it was implemented only like 17 or so teams did it, all my numbers are wrong but I’ll try to find that site after work.

by GreasyQtip on Sep 29, 2009 8:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

If it’s optional, it wouldn’t surprise me if McDaniels decided not to implement the C patches. Given his team-first mentality, and cool quiet confidence in his veteran players and the reverent contributions he’s been seeing from the younger players, why highlight the leaders? It’s not like our captains need flair to feel good about themselves! lol

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...interesting

I wonder that, if it is optional, did McD leave it up to the players as to whether they implement it or not?

by Mhantra on Sep 29, 2009 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Was Going to Chime In On This

It should be noted that if you look, NE doesn’t wear them either.

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- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 29, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

AFL patches...

I believe that the NFL only allows one patch on the jersey. So since they are wearing the anniversary patch, they cannot have the C’s also.

Not sure if they are optional otherwise. I went to the game last weekend and the Broncos sent out six captains for the coin toss.

by captain80 on Sep 29, 2009 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Clayton may change his tune over the bye week

but doubt there will be an apology. More like, “Nobody saw this coming!” Which, of course, would be another inaccuracy. ; )

Great discussion on team building, TB. It’s the classic handful of sticks metaphor. You’re only as strong as your weakest link. All them clichés. I’m not sure how the next five games will go, but even though I’ve been quietly confident in McDaniels all along, I sure feel better with this team having achieved the fast start than I did beforehand.

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 8:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think rankings are for college football and college football only, but I am curious to see where Clayton ranks the Broncos this week. He has had us in the low 20s and 30s since preseason.

Will he put us ahead of 0-3 teams like Tennessee and Carolina? Will he rate a team like Buffalo ahead of Denver? I pretty much know he’ll put a 1-2 Steelers team ahead of Denver.

Will the guy let a grudge overrule both facts and common sense?

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The answer is yes.

And he’ll use every excuse and justification in the book to try to get away with it. This dude will be Dallas’ biggest fan this week.

DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid

I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM

by jubei on Sep 29, 2009 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Denver beats Dallas on Sunday, I expect Clayton will have something positive to say about Denver. He did just give Elvis his defensive player of the week award. But he also said Denver could be 3-0 before heading into the Dallas game, which he was clearly chalking up in the W column for Dallas. If an NFC East team drops one to Denver, Clayton’s head may explode.

Dallas is a lot better than Cleveland and Oakland so I expect a good game Sunday.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHO FRICKIN CARES ABOUT JOHN CLAYTON OR HIS OPINION....WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT FOOTBALL YOU CAN WRITE ON THE BACK OF A TYLENOL!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Sep 29, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Lions, special teams, notes

I enjoyed this thoroughly, Ted, but I think your best-coached-Lions-team-in-my-lifetime is fully unfair to Bobby Ross. I had a deep respect for him in the 1990s. His teams were incomplete at best. Barry Sanders was fun to watch, but all of the negative-yardage plays put the team in a terrible position to control down-and-distance and the clock. Those teams didn’t blow anyone away or make deep playoff runs, but they consistently outperformed their modest talent base. In my estimation, anyway.

Re: the special teams. The coverage teams — which drove me bats**t insane over the last few years — are much improved. Relatedly, so is my mental health. But the return game so far has been week. Eddie Royal is separated from the bottom punt returns in the league by about 1 yard per return. The kickoff returns don’t even rate. I feel so, so much better about the unit as a whole. But to me, the lack of a return game is the single most obvious flaw with the team so far.

I’m with you on the short-yardage running, too. I fully expect to see a high (for the position) pick used on an interior lineman next year. It stunning that we actually have to remind ourselves of this, but the interior running game hasn’t been the same since that guy Nalen left.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on the OL

It was a sad moment for me to realize that Ben Hamilton (one of my favs over the years) is actually a weak link. Granted the OL as a unit is rock solid. But I can see Hamilton getting replaced soon. On the other side, when healthy, Kuper is just fine.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was the "weak" link last year too

or perhaps it would be better to say he was the least strong link.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

About the endzone

l. I also noticed (last week) that the Broncos name wasn’t painted in the end zones at Mile High, and all there were were the diagonal stripes. I didn’t really care for the look, and I wonder what the rationale for it is.

Usually I have to come here for all the answers but this is another one I read about, The PR guy for the Broncos came out and said that we will see 5 (again I think) different endzones all from how it was painted at different times in the last 50 years. I think its cool.

by GreasyQtip on Sep 29, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I’m glad I know now to look for that.

Richard Seymour is a girl.

by pubkeeper on Sep 29, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clayton

Does anybody have a link to the ole perfesser’s quote? I actually thought it was worse, something along the lines of “It’s clear Josh McDaniels has no idea how to build a roster.” Or something like that.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 8:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't have one for that quote

But here is some “analysis” for you : )

People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.

by c_style on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So many terrible teams.

There are several AWFUL teams this season, which is a bit unusual in the salary cap age.

St Louis may be the least talented team in the NFL but those Cleveland Browns are hands down the worst team in the league. It looks to me like the Cleveland players hate their coach. The Browns could be an 0-16 team, even with their soft schedule.
- KC is disgraceful. This team is 2-24 over their last 26 games. The Chefs spent below the league minimum salary floor and will be fined heavily for this offense. But why go cheap when your roster stinks? Thank goodness Cassel is not in Denver. His completion rate was 14-18 the vs the Eagles and yet he only passed for 90 yards and his team was something like 0-11 on 3rd down. The Chefs looked a lot better with Croyle at QB. Cassel would be my vote for most overpaid player in the NFL if not for…
- The Raiders very own JaBust Russell. Ted – You are going to be very wrong about JaBust. He is not a QB. He has a QB’s arm, but not a QBs brain, accuracy, work ethic or leadership skills. JaBust and the Raiders are atrocious. Heyward Bey? What were they thinking? No wonder Crabtree wants more money. I’m pretty sure I’m a better route runner than Heyward Bay and I grew up playing hockey.
- Tampa Bay is pathetic. They are pretty close to St. Louis when you consider lack of talent. Tampa is several good drafts away from being a capable team.
- St Louis has talent similar to the great college team. Honestly, University of Florida probably has more skill at QB, maybe O-line, CB and D-line. The Rams would have been better off not trading with Denver when we moved up to take Cutler and they slid down to nab Tre Hill. This is the worst drafting team in the NFL. Chris Long ahead of Matt Ryan? Whoops again.
- I foresee Jacksonville and Washington joining the ranks of the awful by week 8, if not sooner.
I’m undecided on the Lions, but Stafford has a stronger arm than Cutler.
I think the 0-3 Titans and Dolphins and will rebound to have mediocre seasons.

Everyone, myself included, was feeling like Seattle made a great trade to get Denver’s #1 in 2010. However, the 49ers also traded away a mid 2nd rounder for the Carolina’s #1 pick in 2010 and that move should be getting the 2010 draft headlines pretty soon. Carolina is 0-3 and well on their way to a poor season. On the other hand, Denver still has games vs KC, Oakland and Washington. Playing the way we are now, Denver will win all four of those games. Seattle may still get a Top 10 draft pick, but it will be their own.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2009 8:28 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I like your new siggy. Hadn’t noticed it before.

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks to me like the Cleveland players hate their coach

To support this, aren’t there multiple (like 5?) grievances open by Browns players against Mangini? It’s hard to believe that team has gotten significantly worse since last year, but somehow they’ve managed it.

by Gorbal on Sep 29, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NFLPA is filing grievances against Mangini? Good Lord.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the link

Since I threw that out, I figured I ought to go look it up – http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4508545. The grievances may not be a big deal (Mangini’s response – http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4512391) but it still shows that there’s some serious problems with that “team”.

by Gorbal on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mangini

I heard something on one of the tv pre game shows about how he is fining players for losing water bottles or damaging them or something like that. Something about water bottles. They’re calling him Mussolini Mangini on the Browns Blog.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 29, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually it was drinking a water bottle at a hotel

The bottle of water that a player drank (I believe they’re $3-$5) showed up on the team’s bill. The player in that room was charged $1000 for doing this.

Pretty pathetic in my opinion! If you charge a player anything, just charge him for the cost of the water, not penalize him a grand for drinking it!

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

I heard was that the fine was because he had taken the bottle without paying… I could be wrong, this is second hand info.

by idahobronc on Sep 29, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right, idaho

The player took a $3 bottle of water from the room. The players have to pay for their ‘incidentals’ and he didn’t do that – whether on purpose or by accident, I have no idea. He was fined over $1700 for the ‘incident’. It does seem a little excessive.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 29, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow!

WOW…Mangini doing a very good impression of Captain Bligh…wonder if the Browns will send him afloat. Almost makes Oakland’s thug Cable look reasonable.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 29, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good literary referance

My impression was more of Captain Queeg from the Caine Mutiny- but all context is good!

"Life is a daring adventure or nothing" - Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace

by PositivIntegral on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

To Be Fair

his last team filed lots of grievances too and when you look into them I am not sure I side with the players.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't really matter who you side with

When players have to turn to their union reps to deal with day-to-day issues, that’s the sign of a bad working environment (just as it is in any other union shop).

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

It is a sign of discontent in the working environment. The question is would that be a result of the management or the workers.
I think Mangini did well to lay out the expectations when he became the coach and the players aren’t responding well to that. Certainly his game planning and coaching aren’t building confidence in the team.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

by Kfustud on Sep 29, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with jax but agree with just about everything else you said.

I think they just need some help at WR and a little better pass protection. Garrard seems fine to me, maybe inconsistent.

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 29, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect the Jags to finish in the range of 4-12ish. They have zero home field advantage.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2009 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Additional Questions

When do you see Ayers getting more playtime and having a big impact [or an impact period =)]?

What will make the Alphonso trade “worth it” for the masses? Do we have to make playoffs? Does he have to play lights out? Combination of the two? Can he play lights out and we do mediocre and it still be good? Does he have to be good for 5 years? Will it never be? =)

I am just trying to get a feel for when people will think it was a fair trade.

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 29, 2009 8:55 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

We won't know whether it was a fair trade for at least 3 years.

We’ll have to see where the 1 we gave up ends up and give time for Smith to develop. For me, the issue was not was it a fair trade, but rather was it an acceptable risk. I’ve been very critical of this move in the past, and I think more effort should have been put into hedging the risk, i.e., our 1 or Chicago’s, whichever is lower. That being said, I’ve been way off the mark in my critisims of McXanders’ other personnel moves this year, and those have almost all turned out to be brilliant (“Midas touch”, indeed), so what do I know.

"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

by db8632 on Sep 29, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it was an acceptable risk

any draft pick is going to be a risk whether a trade is involved or not.

Anytime we draft a player we are taking a risk.

We can minimize the risk by evaluating the players and not just their talent but there general health, attitude, intellegence, personality etc. Smith so far seems to excel in all those categories.

In this case we also minimized the risk simply because we are paying Smith less than we would pay a 1st round player so we have less money invested in him as well.

by trumanj on Sep 29, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe now?

Smith is already playing great football, and he’s only going to get better. I already say it was a good trade. And trading up to draft another tight end? What a dumb idea!

Yeah, well you can thank those three tight end sets for a lot of our success against Jokeland.

Coaches aren’t always right but before I second guess one with that many Super Bowl rings, I am at least going to give his plan a chance to work.

by TheMastermind on Sep 29, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys are not a better team than us!

However, on any given Sunday, any team can win. If we lose this game, all the “Experts” will say “I told you so”. If we win, they will start saying we are a contender. If we want some respect, we need to earn it this game!

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix Jones, Jason Witten, and Tony Romo scare me.

Felix for the obvious reasons stated by the OP. Witten will create some problems for the LBs, especially when he’s on the field with Jones/Barber and Dallas uses the play-action pass. As for Romo, he only scares me because he seems to limit his crappy games to ones that matter. This being an out-of-conference, early season away game, means that the Broncos D shold be on their toes. If it was a playoff game in Jerry’s House, I would say that Denver would be just about guaranteed the win.

Still, I think this new Bronco offense is going to give the Cowgirls fits. It is tailor-made for long drives, and I think the short passing game will make that happen along with some decent running sprinkled in. From where I sit Dallas looks vulnerable to any all all types of passes. If KO and the recievers find their rhythm early, it should pull the LBs and safeties away from the LOS and give KM and Buck some room to maneuver. Long story short, my hope is that we dominate the TOP and keep Jones, Witten, and Romo on the sidelines.

P.S. Don’t forget about the crowd in this one either…

DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid

I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM

by jubei on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I still love the cowgirls tho

The cowboys suck but cant get enuff of those cowgirls!

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheerleaders in HD.

Yet another reason to pay for HD service!

DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid

I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM

by jubei on Sep 29, 2009 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm betting

After this season Wade Phillips is replaced by Mike Shanahan — AGAIN!

by DCJ on Sep 29, 2009 12:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget

the altitude with that big offensive line. They could be gasping by 4th quarter.

by idahobronc on Sep 29, 2009 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Jason Witten

Mr. Witten, meet Mr. Woodyard. Former college safety with good speed at LB with tackling ability and a never back down attitude.

Witten’s the best TE in the game, but Woodyard is a pretty darn good 3rd down matchup for him.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Cowboys

almost as much as the Raiders. And that new stadium is ridiculous. Cage dancers? I guess those women have “jobs”, but seriously, it’s a circus.

The Broncos D is so much more fun to watch this year than in the past 4 or more years. Can’t wait to see Romo looking up at the Colorado blue sky wondering what hit him. He can then go back to playing with his Barbies.

Not all change is good, just as not all movement is forward.

by Trogdoor on Sep 29, 2009 9:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

And that new stadium is ridiculous.

Players from both teams have to walk through a bar/lounge area populated by drunk cowboys fans to get to and from their locker rooms. The fans are kept away by heavy glass walls but it’s gotta be pretty weird for visiting players.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 29, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not in Oakland, though

I suppose the glass walls might keep the Cowboys fans from spilling their wine or pate on the opposing team’s uniforms.

by Diws on Sep 29, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

And at least they don’t throw batteries in Dallas. Well, not D size anyway. Maybe those little watch batteries.

by TheMastermind on Sep 29, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know...

the cage dancers are kind of nice!

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2009 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally got to finish

This is slowly becoming my favorite weekly read. I know little about evaluating talent but your writing comes across as responsible and trustworthy.

It’s clear everyone, me included, wants some more individual breakdown about Ayers. And is it possible Ryan Clady is still getting better? I mean he looked like a god against Men and I can’t imagine he has mastered the position after only 19 games.

by GreasyQtip on Sep 29, 2009 9:23 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for a great post!

The Oakland game was the first one I got to watch start to finish, and I saw a lot of what you’ve been saying about the Broncos “live and in color.” The run defense looked fierce, the offensive line looked solid, and Orton looked like a man we can trust with this team. It’s neat to have an offense that shows us how the end zone looks, even if the stripes aren’t all that; and I applaud the Broncos captains for not wearing the “c” on their jerseys. All in all, I am one satisfied Broncos fan. I know that losses — even unexpected losses — will come; but trust that McD & Co will be as solid dealing with them as they have been in dealing with “unexpected” victories.

by 42n81 on Sep 29, 2009 9:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, by the way

the Broncos got some serious love from Mike Florio over at Profootballtalk.com today. It was a radical turnaround from his comments about our team before the Oakland game. Maybe, just maybe, some respect is coming Denver’s way.

by 42n81 on Sep 29, 2009 9:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Link?

I went over there but couldn’t find the love.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 29, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great quote in the comments at ProFootballTalk
Last time this happened (new coach, 3-0) to the Broncos, Red Miller was coach and they were lead by a castoff QB by the Name of Morton. Orton with an ‘M’. Scary stuff this voodoo.

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
Shaquille O'Neal

by tannji on Sep 29, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Sep 29, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

u. the long run

I’ve said this before, but the long run by Benson is actually the reason I feel better about our 3-0 start this year than I did last year. When Benson got into the secondary, the safeties were the last line of defense, and they worked together to give him no options, and made a solid tackle. (as opposed to the Darren Sproles runs from last year)

Perhaps Felix Jones (if he plays) will bust one for over 20, but I think of him as a guy who takes advantage of poor tackling, and poor angles from defenders who underestimate his speed. McDaniels will have our guys prepared for this, and they should contain him on the edges. I thought that Carolina’s poor tackling let Dallas off the hook from their ridiculous penalties. Denver won’t allow that to happen.

by SkinnyPB on Sep 29, 2009 9:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Ted

Great write-up, lots of info and informed opinion, and well presented.

I’m with you, SkinnyPB- I was saying the same thing to my son just last night. Even if they break the line against our 5-2, the positioning and tackling in the secondary is keeping down the damage.

by idahobronc on Sep 29, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

Excellent post Ted.

A few minor disagreements, but generally excellent analysis.

Washington is not a good team, and their O-line is truly terrible. However, living in DC, I have to say one of the only reasons their D-line/Passrush isn’t terrible is because of Orakpo… so while Oher would help their O-line, it just would’ve moved the problem to another area of the team… I have a hard time faulting them for grabbing what looks to be an elite pass-rusher that fell in the draft, when very good tackles seem to come around just about every year.

Detroit indeed looks better than I’ve seen them since their playoff runs in the 1990s. They’re a few years away due to the Millen-era talent purge, but I was surprised at how good Stafford looked given his similar problems to Russell coming out of college. Megatron is a beast, and whil I think Smith’s wheels will fall off due to over-use sooner rather than later, he looks solid too.

Russell wasn’t a great college QB (he had one good season, and really only one great game) due to his poor mechanics, accuracy and decision-making, and he’s a HORRIBLE NFL QB. He does not have the work-ethic to translate his amazing physical gifts into QB success.

I think your analysis of Denver is right on… we may not have many of the BEST players in the NFL, but we have few if any of the worst…. While I think that means a championship this year may be a bit out of reach, a playoff run and solid competitiveness in every game we play is very doable, and we’re well placed to add the impact guys in future years to take us from good to great.

by cjfarls on Sep 29, 2009 9:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This got me thinking:
Now think back to last year. It was a horror show of bad players on defense, right? There were at least 5 starting by the end of the year, and another starting at RB, after all the injuries. Think how many of these players are out of the NFL now, who didn’t even get a sniff of a training camp this year. Nearly all of them.

So I did some quick research, and you are dead right. I could identify 38 players from last years’ team no longer with us. 20 of them were on the defense, and of those 7 are currently in the league (according to ESPN): Bly, Crowder, Koutovides, Lowry, Manuel, McCree, and Paymah. Only two play for contenders: Bly in San Francisco and Paymah in Minnesota.

"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

by db8632 on Sep 29, 2009 9:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You see how fast...

The new regime came in and jettisoned all of those underachievers. They knew EXACTLY what they wanted to do, how they wanted to do it and who they did NOT need. Just like pulling weeds.

The ugly plants stand out.

The scary thing, as Ted pointed out, is how a handful of them are STARTING on other teams.

by TheMastermind on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Zone Offense

If I had to choose a weakspot that is it. It is a tough one as I am definitely a little biased, but if it goes unaddressed, it will be a huge problem against some of the teams we have coming up. I have some faith as the Raiders do have some talent in the defensive front. If Ellis and Seymore do not want you to get that 1 yard, they are very capable of making a crucial stop. We saw that a couple of times on Sunday. Still, it is the one issue that seemed to carry over from last year. We are doing a great job of getting ourselves into scoring position and creating chances, but we need to finish off our drives if we expect this success to continue. Great read with facts and numbers to backup your opinion; much more than I can say for our MSM friends. Cheers Ted!

by Lunchmeat1212 on Sep 29, 2009 10:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I had to live in Boston for a year, and spend lots of time listening to the reactionary blowhards on radio there. Between the announcers pretending they were vicariously dating Giselle, I managed to learn something. The signature aspect of the McDaniels’ goal-line offense in 2007 was repetition: The team had practices the goal-line plays so many times that the passing offense down there was essentially a reflex. Perfect routes, perfect position, perfect reads. The plays were good, but the team devoted an otherworldy amount of time to making them automatic.

I would expect the Broncs to get better at this throughout the year, if only because they’ll start to get the reps. But true high performance probably won’t arrive until next year, when jitters like Hillis’ false start are extinguished and the routes and reads are second nature.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oy Hillis

Yer killin’ me, Smalls!

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by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word.

Couldn’t agree more with the Hillis comments. I am all for the guy getting carries, and I think his performance thus far has been uncharacteristic. He will come around I am sure.

I am a season ticket holder, and was at the Cleveland game. When Hochstein and Hillis lined up in the backfield, my buddy and I looked at each other and almost simultaneously said “Hillis for 6.” Sure enough he pounded it in.

I had pretty much the same reaction this Sunday, but with disappointing results. Disappointment is only because I know he is capable of more.

GO RBONCOS!!

by Lunchmeat1212 on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love "The Sandlot" reference!

Blues. Cardinals. Broncos. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!).
Univ. of Denver Hockey. Also Outlaws (MLL) and Mammoth (NLL).

by HockeyHippie on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect a couple changes for next week in personnel

chief among them an active Chris Baker. The additional size and fresher legs on the Dline might be important again a team like Dallas, I agree.

by thedoctor on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh McDaniels on Jim Rome

 in a few moments! On the radio (depending on where you are, if it’s live). It’s in hour number 2 if you hear it on tape.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 29, 2009 11:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Info on Endzone Lines - Markings

I saw a piece in the Denver Post (I think) that noted the Broncos organization is going to be doing different end-zone markings every home game this year to commemorate end-zone designs from years past. Expect a new design every home game.

by Hollywood Frost on Sep 29, 2009 11:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they can do one...

Of John Clayton pulling his foot out of his mouth.

Okay….sorry….I just had to. I’ll stop. I promise.

It was just there, lying on the ground and I picked it up. LOL

by TheMastermind on Sep 29, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering about that

Wasn’t there no design in the first home game? I was flustered by how boring it looked to have an unpainted end zone.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 29, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Ted

That’s a lot of film to watch and time to write. I greatly appreciate it!

Small quibble:

For my money, every single player whom the new Broncos staff signed, drafted, and traded for has performed EXACTLY as expected, if not better.

We cut 7th round pick Blake Schlueter. So if you say that every single player STILL ON THE TEAM, then the statement is OK.

by Endzone on Sep 29, 2009 11:33 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

that Chris Baker is the one CFA to make the final cut. Good for him!!

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 29, 2009 11:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome as always.

I don’t know if anybody said this, because I don’t have time to read all 100 some comments, but the Broncos endzone design will change each home game to honor the different eras— thus the simple strip pattern they had year one. On Sunday, it will be the next evolution and so on.

Thanks again Ted. You’re the best NFL read on the planet right now.

by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clayton

Who cares what Clayton says. LOOK AT THE GUY! Does he look remotely athletic to you? No. He looks like a nerd in high school who wanted to hang around the jocks so he can look cool. What he says is crap – don’t listen to him!

calBronco1

by calbronco1 on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, let's be fair

There are some rather geeky members of MHR (including myself…no one ever mistook me for an athlete!) Never judge a book by it’s cover.

…instead, judge it on content, and content alone. Which is REALLY where Clayton fails, and that is sad. I wish there was a greater range of good reporting and commentary out there…

"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.

by Disco_Stu on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

NERDS!!!!

calbronco = Ogre

When do we start busting beer cans on our forheads?

This argument is frankly below the level of discourse I expect from MHRs readers. One does not have to have been an athlete to logically watch and evaluate athletes. This argument is more illogical and stupid than many of Clayton’s arguments…. which is about as big a thumbs down as I can give a post.

by cjfarls on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

As a boy, I was cross-eyed, asthmatic and skinny. I looked out at the world from behind a pair of thick plastic glasses that always had one lens covered with masking tape. Maybe you would have had a good time making fun of me, Calbronco. Bully for you I guess — that was sure awesome of you to be born athletic. Anyway, I’m not going to cede my right to comment about a sport I never played, and I’m not going to make fun of Clayton for being a weenie when the real issue is that he’s a frickin’ idiot.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

A BIG apology

What I said was totally insensitive and I apologize to those whom I’ve offended. It was meant to John Clayton only, but I realize how it was and is very politically incorrect!!

calBronco1

by calbronco1 on Sep 29, 2009 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now you’re calling us sensitive?

I kid. No worries. John Clayton is so diminutive that I’d probably mug him out of reflex if I passed him on the street. The thing is, there are probably lots of good football reporters (including Adam Schefter, who runs marathons, but to my knowledge didn’t play the game) who weren’t football players. The real issue, like you say, is that Clayton is just painfullyl uninsightful. You can practically picture him sticking his finger in the wind before he speaks.

by Chibronx on Sep 29, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"very politically incorrect!!"

Not just politically incorrect. Ad hominem attacks are totally low. Clayton is a fool because he doesn’t write with intelligence. Not because he doesn’t look like your picture of macho man.

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 29, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enough about Clayton

We’ll prove him wrong. He’s an idiot!

calBronco1

by calbronco1 on Sep 29, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Ted

Really insightful stuff here.

I think one of the biggest failures for Carolina last night wasn’t that they couldn’t react to the ball when they needed to, but when they met the ball carrier they could not tackle to save their lives. It was just horrid to watch. That’s one thing I like about this Broncos team, the fundamentals are sound and good tackling is one them. Look out Dallas a stampede is coming…….

by bchiper on Sep 29, 2009 12:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick hit the pipe!

19-0 here we come! Great post as usual.

Any movement in history which attempts to perpetuate itself, becomes reactionary.

- Marshal Broz Tito

by BosnianBronco on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

J.J. Arrington a well calculated risk.

Great job to get him under contract if he was ok, and superb contract writing to make sure we were protected if he wasn’t.

"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton

by odarol on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Another great post, Ted!

Have to agree with another comment: “The Broncos will be fresh in the 4th quarter, those behemoths on the Cowboys DL will be sucking wind”. At this stage, the Broncos can play with anyone, based on that sound D.

Thanks once again for a sterling post! Rec’d of course!

Go Broncos!

" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "

by hairybear on Sep 29, 2009 3:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

A couple things here.

2.d. Darn Tootin.

f. I do to. Eddie Royal is a vital cog in the Bronco machine. I can see Hillis not getting the reps, but the Edster needs his touches cuz he’s a YAC man.

h. Keep predicting good stuff for the Hutt. Just don’t say the Cryptkeeper will live forever, OK? We don’t want to get rid of the main source of the faders failures.

No, and he will live up to the expectations of most of Al Davis’ expert evaluations.

j. Matt Prater only has one critic at MHR.

3.f. The Lions are showing some claws finally.

m. I can only hope Troy Polamalu stays on the sidelines until Week 10.

u. I agree wholeheartedly, and you will be seeing a post on the subject.

Nice job Ted, and Thanks for the weekly ST & O.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a question?

How will HC Wade Phillips play scheme against the Broncos offense and defense? Since we know Phillips has spent time in Denver and knows how the thin air can affect players what will the Fat butted OLine do to keep from passing out? Just a couple of questions on my minute little mind.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 29, 2009 5:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That's just the point

Wade does not seem to game plan much: more of a “wind it up and let it go” approach to game day – I hope so, because McD should have the Rubics cube solved by the 10th minute of play and the cb’s wont’t have an answer.

"Life is a daring adventure or nothing" - Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace

by PositivIntegral on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Ted.

I particularly enjoyed the listing of team weaknesses. I notice you left off one team…

I would like to see this list again after game 7, game 11, and game 15, and again after each playoff game. I wonder how it would change? Tracking how certain teams attack other teams could be great information.

Thanks for your hard work.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Sep 29, 2009 10:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick question

Hos can the Bills biggest problem be pass defense when they just held Drew Brees to his lowest passing totals since 2007? They gave up a lot of yards in week one and two because other teams threw 50 balls apiece against them trying to catch up. In yards per attempt the Bills are in the top half of the league.

Right now I would say our biggest weakness is the wide receivers who haven’t been getting the ball.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Ignoring the grumblings on Rumblings.

by MattRichWarren on Sep 30, 2009 5:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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