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Horse Tracks - 9/3/09 - BMarsh reportedly working with Rod Smith again

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CBS - Why The Broncos Won't Trade Brandon Marshall - Vic Lombardi
Vic is hearing that BMarsh actually reached out to Rod Smith again this week and is working out with him. Now THAT would be great news if it's true...

ESPN - Sources: Denver Broncos want Jets LB David Harris to deal Brandon Marshall - Adam Schefter

NFL - Broncos aren't trying to trade WR Marshall, even after Jets show interest - Jason La Canfora

NYT - Are the Jets Serious About Marshall? - Justin Sablich

N - Source: Jets unlikely to land Broncos' Marshall - Bob Glauber

N - Interest in Marshall reveals Jets' thinking - Bob Glauber

NYP - JETS NOT EYEING MARSHALL - Mark Cannizzaro
Ah yes, dueling reports. Always fun...

DB - Matchup: Broncos vs. Cardinals - Broncos TV
Chris Hall previews tonight's game.

DB - Wednesday: McDaniels - Broncos TV

DB - A Closer Look: Broncos vs. Cardinals - Gray Caldwell

LTC - Cuts looming for Broncos after tonight - Brian Howell
Howell predicts the Broncos' cuts and final roster.

DP - Offensive line's Hamilton dealing with back pain - Legwold & Klis
Ben Hamilton has not practiced this week and is unlikely to play tonight. According to this report, Knowshon will not play; however, McDaniels had not committed either way in his presser.

DP - Broncos: Cuts coming, so look sharp - Lindsay Jones
A look at who might be on the roster bubble for Denver and what that feels like for the players.

ESPN - Source: Palmer to sit Thursday, OK for Week 1 - Adam Schefter
Bangles QB Carson Palmer will reportedly be ready for the Broncos next week.

Star-divide

NFP - Marshall is too risky for the Jets - Matt Bowen
Bowen thinks dealing for Brandon Marshall would disrupt the Jets' locker room.

SI - SI's 2009 NFL Scouting Reports - Peter King
PK projects the Chefs at 8-8 and the Broncos at 5-11 and in third place.

SI - Denver Broncos 2009 Team Preview, Scouting Report - Jim Trotter
Trotter focuses on Kyle Orton and Brian Dawkins in his Broncos preview.

DB - Finding Time to Skate - Broncos TV
Members of the Broncos' staff play hockey together during their rare time off.

DB - Ask Head Coach Josh McDaniels...
Question may be submitted from now til Monday for Coach McD.

DB - Success on Short Calendar - Chris Gentilviso
The Broncos' goals for tonight include no penalties or turnovers on offense, along with better defense during the two-minute drill.

DP - Paige: And thus it will be ... Broncos 4-12
Woody predicts 4 home wins and zero road wins for the Broncos. Now, before you jump on him, at least he has his reasons...

DP - McDaniels: No Marshall trade talks underway - Mike Chambers

DP - Forbes: Dallas leader of U.S. teams in value
The Broncos rank #10

DP - Broncos dodging blackouts - Mike Klis

KDVR - Broncos owner Bowlen suffering from memory loss? - Julie Hayden

CSG - McDaniels strongly denies any Marshall trade talks - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos preseason finale: Three things to watch against Arizona - Frank Schwab

AFC West News

SDUT - Folks around town rooting for Nwagbuo - Tod Leonard

SDUT - Vasquez to start at RG in preseason finale - Kevin Acee

SFC - Frye, Gradkowski vie for clipboard - David White

KCS - Haley uses demotion for motivation - Kent Babb

KCS - Five things to watch in tonight’s Chiefs-Rams game - Kent Babb

NFL News

NFL - Commish’s decision on Vick’s status expected soon - Jason La Canfora

NFL - Saints safety Young arrested for missing court date on parking violation

NFL - Stephens, 1988 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, dies in single-car crash

NFL - Bills cut LB Thomas; DE Kelsay will miss game to be with his daughter

NFL - Jets sign veteran TE Hartsock to one-year contract, agent says

NFL - Richardson hires TCU athletic director Morrison as Panthers' president

Y! - CFL team says it's not signing Pacman Jones

NFL Opinion

NFP - Diner morning news: What the cuts mean - Mike Lombardi

SI - Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers undisputed preseason kings - Don Banks

SI - NFL players adopt different mindsets as cut-down day nears - Ross Tucker

NYT - The Zone Blitz: Aggressive and Conservative All at Once - Chris Brown

NFP - Thursday is the last chance for rookies - Matt Bowen

FOX - How Ochocinco got his groove back - Alex Marvez

ESPN - Trent Dilfer breaks down quarterbacks, from the elite to the rehab projects

NFL - Young, old leadership at quarterback will define 2009 season - Thomas George

NFL - Being a QB isn't easy, but the very best share some common traits - Steve Wyche

NFL - L.T., the truth hurts: Peterson clearly is the best running back in the NFL - Vic Carucci

Y! - '09 owner rankings, 17-32: Dysfunctional Davis - Mike Silver
The Crypt Keeper comes in at #32 out of 32

ESPN - 'See-ball, get-ball' scheme pleases Sims - Jeffri Chadiha

Y! - Defense, offense seek perfect match - Jason Cole

CBS - AFC North preview: Can better Bengals get in the hunt? - Pete Prisco

PFW - First-round QBs get benefit over others - Eric Edholm

NFP - Tavern talk: The Dolphins build a winner - Mike Lombardi

FOX - Mailbag: Glazer's firsthand take on Vick

NFP - Wednesday whys: Was Osi’s snit about money? - Andrew Brandt

NFL - Perhaps it's time for Smith to take his NFL opportunity seriously - Steve Wyche

NFP - Preseason rankings: linebackers and DBs - Wes Bunting

SI - 2010 NFL Draft- An early look at the top prospects on offense - Tony Pauline

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Thanks NYC

and good morning.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by kentuckybronco on Sep 3, 2009 6:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Rod Smith.

If Peter King thinks KC is going to be 8-8, he is smoking the super crack. KC is coming off a 2-14 season and somehow look even worse. They just fired their offensive coordinator after the third preseason game. Who does that? Not an 8-8 team. KC will be back in that 3-13 range this season.

I don’t see the Jets parting with a great player like David Harris, a player that is only 25 years of age. They don’t have the depth to lose their best LB.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 3, 2009 6:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, McG, on Peter King. 8-8? Wow. He apparently is still sniffing the glue sticks.

If Marshall is traded, I’ve always been a proponent that they get a high quality player in return plus picks. Is Harris their best front 7 player? Do they have a dominant lineman (I don’t follow the Jets)? If Harris is the best, I wouldn’t do it for less than what’s been speculated. I’d feel better if they got a 2nd rounder instead of a 3rd, though.

by Gristle McThornbody on Sep 3, 2009 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gristle

Here is the Jets depth Chart at the front 7:
    Left Defensive End
          Shaun Ellis
          Ropati Pitoitua
   Nose tackle
          Kris Jenkins
          Sione Pouha
   Right Defensive End
          Marques Douglas
          Mike DeVito
   Left Outside Linebacker
          Bryan Thomas
          Vernon Gholston
   Left Inside Linebacker
          Bart Scott
          Brandon Renkart
   Right Inside Linebacker
          Calvin Pace
          Marques Murrell
   Right Outside Linebacker
          David Harris

    
    
   

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

King's predictions are baffling

He’s pretty harsh on us, and way WAAAAAY to generous with KC. They are so far from an 8 – 8 team from what I’ve seen.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Sep 3, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The love of a "franchise" QB goes a long way in the MSM...

I’ve read a lot of interesting tid bits out of KC that Cassell is struggling with the offense, and it may have led to Gailey’s ousting. 8-8? That is absolutely obscene. We’re definitely better than them.

P.S. The Bucs fire their O-Coordinator, and the B-Marsh thing is still front page news? Ridiculous.

by legendarywalton on Sep 3, 2009 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cassel will bust this year

by lolcopter on Sep 3, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

100% Agree

Even with Welker and Moss last year, he only performed “Satisfactorily”

by legendarywalton on Sep 3, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

and behind that offensive line? fuhgeddaboudit

by lolcopter on Sep 3, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cassel won't Bust

I don’t think you can call it a bust when you are placed on IR.

Cassel won’t survive the season behind that line.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 3, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should draft him to my fantasy team

just to make sure he’s terrible. That’s usually the most certain way to make someone have a bad season. ;-)

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft Thigpen

he’ll be a starter soon

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 3, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if it's a 4 QB

league ;-)

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now that his is out for 2-4 weeks makes in interesting over there.

Right after they signed him to a contract. That’s gotta suck.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 3, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a Pioli thing.

If Scott Pioli managed the same Broncos offseason that McX did— Cutler saga and all— the MSM (PK included) would be orgasmic about his subtle genius. Its a reflection of the love hate relationship with Belichick. Somebody has to be omniscient (Pioli) and somebody has to be an idiot (McD)— and, of course, along the way, all logic and reason takes a back seat.

Its been a bad start to the day, so I needed this sort of Chiefs-going-8-and-8-comic-relief. Thanks for passing it on NYC…

by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 3, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Right on! Its a nice thought though….that would be a great trade for us.

"Iron sharpens Iron."

My favorite teams are:

Broncos

and anyone playing against Da Bears!

by vdisciple on Sep 3, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even in retirement

Rod Smith is still one of the best players on our team. Forever a team leader, captain, defender, godfather, a man who understands the importance of a little wisdom applied at the right time. If anyone can get B Marsh’s head back on straight, it’s #80. The career may not be Canton-worthy, but outside of Shanahan has anyone had a bigger impact on the team in the last decade?

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2009 6:54 AM MDT reply actions   4 recs

Amen

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 3, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rod Smith is definitely HOF material. I can’t believe people can mention Marshall and HOF in the same breath at this point. Rod Smith on the other hand, has a stong case:

  • First and only undrafted player to reach the milestone of 10,000 receiving yards, and the 24th in history to eclipse that figure.
  • Has the most catches (849), receiving yards (11,389) and touchdown receptions (68) of any undrafted wide receiver in NFL history.
  • Holds Denver Broncos franchise records in career receptions, receiving yards and touchdown catches.
  • Ranks first on Denver’s all-time yards from scrimmage list.
  • Only the sixth player in NFL history to have 100 receptions against at least three teams (Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders).
     

by lolcopter on Sep 3, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And 2 Rings!

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Marshall is listening to Rod...

hallelujah!

It would go such a long way to have a productive, professional B-Marsh back. Not only for on the field production, but it could really help shut up the nay-sayers who think McDaniels has lost the team, etc.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Sep 3, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope BM really follows through this time

Personally I really don’t care what all the nay-sayers think about McDaniels. The Broncos don’t get any love from anybody other that Bronco fans so I don’t expect that to change anytime soon even if Marshall turns it around.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 3, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not so much that I care what they think

It’s more that I am so sick of that story line, that I’d love for it to just be put to rest so that they can talk about something else. Otherwise I’m going to be watching a lot of games on “mute.”

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Sep 3, 2009 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.....me too.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 3, 2009 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy cow

That’s a huge list of links… I dunno how you do it, NYC. Thanks, as usual!

by tunga77 on Sep 3, 2009 6:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, thanks NYC

Don’t know how we can go from

“There is no discussions whatsoever taking place between Denver Broncos and any team in the National Football League regarding Brandon Marshall,” McDaniels said. "We’re looking forward to having Brandon back on the 6th of September and starting our (season-opening) preparation with him.

To

The Denver Broncos would want New York Jets linebacker David Harris in any trade scenario for wide receiver Brandon Marshall, two NFL sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Wednesday.

Shefter also has reported that Denver is looking into a league violation of tampering by the Jets. So which one is it Adam? To me it seems like there is alot of speculation and misinformation floating around right now. Who are these sources anyway, Jamie Dukes and Porkchop.

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Sep 3, 2009 7:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I Bet

That in the past we talked to the Jets. This has been reported and I bet the deal back then was we wanted Harris. Now with people reopening the Jets connection this is all getting blended together.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 3, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Chefs 8-8?

Bwahahahahahahaha!! They’re gonna go from a 2-14 season, replace all their coaches and systems, fire their O-Coordinator after preseason game 3, but still win 6 more games this year. Right.

Apparently, Scott Pioli is a whole lot better than any of us ever suspected.

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2009 8:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Apparently we lost the Patriot lottery this off-season. :P

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

Kool-Aid comes in Matt Cassel flavor now.

by dr.mort on Sep 3, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Nyc

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 8:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

that must be some strong stuff...

kings on if he thinks the chiefs are going 8-8 and we’re going 4-12. wow.

by s.west.railroader on Sep 3, 2009 8:44 AM MDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

and yay...

i finally remembered my log in id.

by s.west.railroader on Sep 3, 2009 8:47 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Wow lots to digest so early in the morning...

Thanks NYC.

Howells cuts actually made some sense to me. What we end up with after cuts will be interesting to see.

I’m wondering what Peter King is doing cause he certainly isn’t thinking straight. KC 8-8, come on, they have way to many issues on D and as much as I like Bowe at WR he’s very inconsistent. I also think they are better of with Thigpin than Cassell.

I’ve stopped reading the bombarge of theories on Marshall.

by bchiper on Sep 3, 2009 8:44 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks NYC

You mucy get up real early to put Horse Tracks together every morning

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

At the crack of dawn

After gathering eggs from the hen house and milking the cows…

by NYCBronx on Sep 3, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NFLN's

Jason LaCanfora’s report linked above makes it sound really certain the BRoncos are not the ones trying to work a Marshall trade. That and the Rod Smith news is reassuring to me that maybe, just maybe, they’ll be keeping Marshall and by gum maybe he’ll even play and contribute!

I’m crossing my fingers but that report was good to hear. We shall see…

And thanks as always nyc!

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

AJ Feeley?

The Eagles are reportedly dangling him with Vick’s suspension likely to be cut in half, and they supposedly still want a Tight End. Surprising given Celek’s upside. Whatever the case, there was interest at one point in Scheffler, so you have to assume that remains.

Problem is, Scheffler is >>> Feeley so it makes no sense. I bet they just cut Feeley outright. I’d have a hard time even accepting Kolb for Scheffler, but Iggles pundits can dream if they want.

Cynics point to the fact that the TE is rarely utilized in a New England-style offense, but Scheffler plays more like a Wide Receiver anyway. Part of my lack of concern in how the Marshall situation pans out is the fact that Scheffer could step in and be the de facto WR1.

by ELGee on Sep 3, 2009 9:30 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Feeley would be a decent backup

IF the Broncos were worried about Simms or Orton long term. Either way though, there’s no way he’s worth Scheffler. None.

Especially if they may eventually cut him anyway, yeah, as you said. Most teams will wait that out…

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NE has expressed interest in Feeley, and given that they just waived O’Connell, I see him becoming a Patriot over a Bronco

by lolcopter on Sep 3, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paige calling Denver a 4-12 team.. Yikes. I know that would make me shaking mad. We have far more talent than a 4-12 team.

I think we’ll go 4-2 in the AFC West. Wins vs Cleveland, Dallas, Cincy and Washington would round out to 8-8.

Love the Broncos, don't like their Coach.

by McGeorge on Sep 3, 2009 9:36 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

That sounds about right

8-8 for Denver seems a fair assumption. 8-8 for Chiefs (as per Peter King) seems pushing it, but we’ll see.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talent is irrelevant when there are wholesale changes in philosophy. Logic says it will take AT LEAST one year to get the hang of new systems on both sides of the ball. It’s up to the coaches to expedite the success, but expectations should be minimal and anybody ‘shakingly mad’ over anything that happens this year wasn’t a real fan anyway.

Also, Woody Paige.. seriously? Surely you’ve been on the planet long enough to know what a dolt he is. He’s unreadable.

The fact that Vegas won’t drop the over/under on Broncos wins below 6 curbs my worry. Vegas isn’t fond of losing money, and they want people to take the under.

by ELGee on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats the best point I've heard all year

I was thinking the exact same way. Vegas is usually pretty dead on. Like you said they’re not in the business of losing money. A smart gambler will figure out what Vegas wants you to bet and will bet the opposite.

by T.Dot_Bronco on Sep 3, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

regarding vegas

theya ctually don’t care whether anyone takes the over or under, they are just trying to estimate bettor opinion. they want as many people betting the overs as they have betting the unders. It is a complex system who’s goal is to make the winners (yes, the winners) pay off the losers.

That is the only way to guarantee that people keep betting….

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 3, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Let the record show that McGeorge is more optimistic than I am.

I didn’t like what I saw from the Offense in the Chicago game, but man, oh man, did the media overreact. I wouldn’t put it past them to argue that first-down holding penalties were somehow part of McDaniels’ game plan.

by Chibronx on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s preaseason for the refs, too. They call penalties just to work in the whistles in preseason.

I’m convinced McDaniel’s is refraining from showing his hand offensively. It will be a watered down playbook until week 4, in fact. Shanahan always exposed all his imaginative plays way too early in the season and defenses were ready. Mac is much more tactical. I hope.

by ELGee on Sep 3, 2009 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I’ve been saying that here too. People have overlooked how vanilla a lot of the playcalling has been, save for a few plays here and there. They’ve both wanted new players to get comfortable but also not wanting to tip their hand (which is true for most teams). Not sure he’ll wait til week 4 mind you but I definitely expect him to hold the special stuff til the season gets rolling.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll concur on that

may get an upset in there as well

"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for to many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton

by diviesti on Sep 3, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Actually Agree

with two posts that you have presented.

Tis better not to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.

by Kfustud on Sep 3, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been preaching 8-8 for months

give or take a loss. I feel the same way as you McG. The thing about being in the west is we may be able to sneak in with that record. Of course we’ll get dusted in the first round but hey why not. I’m interested in your take since you are predicting an 8-8 record, would that qualify as an acceptable season, good season or disappointing season. I’m inclined to say that it’s an acceptable record given the circumstances and hopefully we look good enough to get a sense of whether or not we’re on the right track.

by T.Dot_Bronco on Sep 3, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox vs Barrett

Who do people think will survive the final cut? I’m leaning Barrett, younger with more upside. But we’ll see.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Lamar Jordan cut, too, if Knowshon is indeed now healthy. And especially IF D Walker looks good tonight…

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt LaMont gets the axe. “Knowing the system” is overrated, but he’s a bowling ball and we’ll need that in the trenches. I like Walker, but that fumble last game hurt him.

Am I the only one that hasn’t even noticed Fox on the field? That speaks towards his jeopardy.

by ELGee on Sep 3, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah agreed on Fox

Was just reading the DP’s list of bubble players. They seem to think Jordan could be in jeopardy but you’re probably right that his experience in the system and short yardage ability will keep him around. I am just happy they love Hillis as much as we do.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Fox, Barrett, and Jordan are all cut

Fox because he’s invisible, Barrett because he’s injured, and Jordan because he’s dispensable

I think Darius Walker makes the team

by lolcopter on Sep 3, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a microback. Wouldn’t make much sense to cut Jordan and keep him.

by ELGee on Sep 3, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

we already have a short yardage thumper in Hillis and Walker is our only microback. Walker brings more to the table, including a better ypr

It is said that ducks crash and die on the blue turf.

by Welcome2Boise on Sep 3, 2009 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was my thought

walker adds that extra dimension…

on the other hand, outside of a changeup role, he may not be versatile enough. Which brings us back to Lamont, and whether HE is versatile enough. lord knows he isn’t fast enough….

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 3, 2009 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall and Smith

This type of news used to excite me, but it occurs to me that BM is really good with inititiative and really bad with follow through. I hope Rod Smith can save another day for the Broncos, but I’m not holding my breath. Maybe he buys us half a season…

by PredominantlyOrange on Sep 3, 2009 10:52 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the CBA rule on paying for entourage members?

Does that impact the cap? I’d definitely shell out some money to make Smith an everyday “Advisor” for Mr. Marshall. And I mean every. day.

by legendarywalton on Sep 3, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

there’s a rule on the number of coaches a team may carry. I haven’t read anything like that anyway. If there is, then he could be retained using another adjective like consultant, tutor, assistant to the assistant, etc.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what they did in Indy?

That way the coaches got pensions, but still operate in the same capacity?

by legendarywalton on Sep 3, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that was CBA related

That was the owners decision to do that.
according to this.

The NFL announced a change to the pension plans that appeared to limit how much money coaches over 65 were able to draw if they kept coaching past that age.
The league doesn’t have to go back and change the provisions for coaches over 65, but it has to fully explain the plan and/or close the loophole, so that teams can’t eat their cake and have it too when it comes to their coaching staffs.

Dallas, New England, Atlanta, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Buffalo, Arizona, and S.F. opted to replace the standard NFL pension plan with a different plan of their choosing. All this does is give them the option of choosing a retirement plan that is more cost effective. Also, it’s not like the coaches will lose any of their accrued benefits. They still get to keep all of it.

Franchises that opt out from the league run pension plan will either be perceived to be offering a superior or inferior benefit when compared to the league run plan.
Some of the owners opting out are probably driven by gaining an advantage in terms of coaching prospects…other owners probably are betting they can get the same out of any assistant coach while saving a buck.

AND:the league has threatened to fire any coach who joined a union.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure thing

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw

by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2009 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You see the same thing I am.

I said it in another post that if a suspension doesn’t wake up Marshall then nothing will. I am still dumbfounded that he doesn’t realize that by playing well, he will eventually get what he wants. This is why Rod Smith is a class act.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 3, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Da plane, da plane

in case you missed this, from Newark paper via RotoWorld:

A plane bearing a New York Giants logo was spotted in Denver overnight, but the Newark Star-Ledger reports it was a “coincidental” trip and had nothing to do with a potential Brandon Marshall trade.
The Giants don’t even own a private plane, and are having enough trouble choosing which of their eight wide receivers to keep. Rookie Hakeem Nicks is also coming on. Marshall would be a much better fit on the crosstown team.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Sep 3, 2009 11:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks as always nyc

Good ol’ contrasting/contradictory reporting.

I sure hope Marshall is wise enough to see the benefits that existential olive branch to Rod offers.

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 3, 2009 12:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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