Broncos 19 - Cardinals 0 -- Game Wrap-Up and Postgame Open Thread
by Ted Bartlett on Sep 3, 2009 10:08 PM MDT
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PrintWell, there's a lot to feel good about after a game like that. Even the biggest critics would have to probably smile a little bit. Everybody can feel good that the defense is vastly improved, top to bottom this season. The line is physical, the linebackers aren't over-running plays, and the secondary has played very well, especially the past two weeks. Tom Brandstater played well, and so did Darius Walker, whose performance has to make the staff consider keeping him over LaMont "Mr. Tentative" Jordan.
David Bruton was 850 KOA's player of the game, with an interception and a fumble recovery. Robert Ayers played well, and got his first sack, and Jarvis Moss played a tremendous game, and may have made the team, and the defense finally forced a bunch of turnovers, and batted down a bunch more passes, nearly getting some more. The only blemish was the continuation of some red-zone ineffectiveness on offense. I tend to think that will improve once everybody is healthy.
Savor the victory, and more than that, the good play by the Broncos. Since I am feeling a little verklempt, feel free to talk amongst yourselves... GO BRONCOS!!!
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“Now how am I going to write how much the Broncos suck tomorrow?”
-Woody Paige
by BuddyHollysPilot on Sep 3, 2009 10:10 PM MDT reply actions
Does Woody even remember what he writes anymore?
He’s got a case of National media in his head. I can’t listen to his cooky statements anymore, either we go undefeated or are terrible? No middle ground?
This was essentially the home opener IMO
Last weeks overhyped distracting media feeding frenzy kept the team from enjoying its first home game and so tonight they played like a well coached team in the preseason plays at home .
Thanks for the info...
Good to hear Moss played a solid game.
Can’t wait to see us open a can of whoop azz on Cincy!
1 more week
I am always pumped at the start of the season but I am even more pumped this year. We have improved on both sides of the ball and special teams and we finally have some legitamate coaches. Freakin Pumped!!!
still a fan
i don’t agree with the statement that we’ve improved on both sides of the ball. i think we are weaker offensively. could only try something new defensively, we couldn’t get any worse. we already had a good kicker and punter, the jury is still out on return men and coverage by special teamers. like everyone, i am ready for another season. after watching brandstater tonight in the win i say there’s our new qb, good arm.
You're talking about...playoffs?
Well, I am anyway. Would have liked to see Utah get a shot last year, too.
What the heck was that formation
on the 2 pt conversion. I thought the 4th coors lite had hit me funny.
Who does...Who doesn't
Tuesday awaits…who is going to get the ax…who makes the practice squad…and do we pick up anyone?
That may have been the most astonishingly boring 2nd half of football that I’ve ever witnessed. Man that sucked!
Nice little confidence boost for the Broncos going into week one though.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
Yeah.
I basically tuned out after the half, but a win is still a win – even if if doesn’t actually count.
Are you ever happy?
Honestly…
I wonder if nothing but a that “C” is the only thing you would watch with any sort of enthusiasm… ITS WEEK 4 OF THE PRESEASON FFS! What the hell did you expect?
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Sep 4, 2009 1:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Not if I can help it!
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 4, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Downfield Orton
Okay, so did they let Brandstater throw down field and not let Orton throw down field, or did Orton just always go with the short route?
He needs some polishing, but Brandy looked very good for a rookie. And I enjoyed his emotion. He got pissed when he screwed up.
its concerning to me. he didnt look too great last week.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah. from the few drive i saw tonight, it looked like brandstater threw downfield a few times
if brandy is doing that….why isnt orton? hopefully he will week one. not losing hope on the guy yet
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
becuase with orton we we're throwing short
to work on it. It’s merely a coincidence that Brandy made plays down the field and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with orton’s history against the second and thrid zones of the defense.
by rururuland784 on Sep 3, 2009 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
i think
That Brandstater just likes throwing deep
by milehighnation on Sep 3, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
McDaniels is playing games
with what he’s showing from each QB. I think it is deliberate and once the season starts you won’t even recognize the offense when you compare it to what it was in pre-season.
Same with the defense, though they started some of the conversion tonight. They played much tighter coverage and the pressure was consant from first quarter to the last.
I’m getting jacked for the Cincy game.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
Same here
I have seen teams which look completely different in the regular season than in these exhibition games. Hopefully our boys will pull together and play as one solid unit going forward. A lot of positives but still the 4th game of the preseason. I’ll take a 1-0. LETS GO BOYZ!!!!!!!
by TDavis for prez on Sep 3, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions
there are a whole bunch of things to consider
We established the run tonight and rushed over 20 times I dont think weve ever rushed over 7 times so far this season with Orton under center
Those runs by Walker setup up the deep passes and we had NO PENALTIES in the first half
Its a home preseason game and I actually expected us to play well. The home team normally does in the preseason .
To be honest I dont even know what the complaining about .It seems to me that fans once again think they know more than the coach . People had doubts about the running game last week and he commits to it and we run for 90+ yards on 20+ carries with our 5th running back
So I wouldnt worry about Orton throwing deeep right now . When Mcdaniels get ready he will have Orton send it deep and I have a feeling that will be a success too and then people will move on to the next complain on there list
+1
You took the words out of my mouth.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 4:34 AM MDT up reply actions
WE HAD A SHUTOUT!!!! i dont care if its preseason lol
that hasnt happened in YEARS
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And got 4 turnovers.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Sep 3, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
when was the last time that happened? lol
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
GET TO CAMP BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't remember....
Did the 2005 defense even have any shutouts?
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 4:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes, they had 1 in 2005
Nov 20, 2005 vs N.Y. Jets – W (27-0)
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
Thanks!
But that’s still a long drought.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Ingle martin got a personalized jersey
care of the Broncos. That’s all he gets.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
You bring players like Martin to the team
So if… IF… they get decimated @ QB, and Martin is out of work, they can pull him in.
Lets just hope it doesn’t come to this…
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 AM MDT up reply actions
"Yeah, who saw that coming? "
Coach McDaniels
A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.
Louis L’Amour
Me. I had the Broncos taking him in my mock draft, actually
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
So did I
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
Ted, you just like his initials...
Seriously, good call, both of you. That’s one smart, together young man with quite a skillset for this point in his career
Hillis/Moreno in '09
start him
he won’t face nearly the same pressure as those two guys
he has good RBs
good WRs
good o-line
let it ride
Not Yet
As McD said on his postgame comments. TB is not ready yet. But he sure looks like a diamond in the rough! I have caught some of Stafford & Sanchez and I feel sorry for them. They should not be thrown into the fire so quickly. Neither should TB.
I will say this about TB.
With the improvements i’ve seen from game to game, (3) so far. If he can keep improving, man, I’m exited to see him in a year or so.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 1:48 AM MDT up reply actions
amen to that
:-)
"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 4, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Beyond good for a late-round rookie
I think people would expect the first rounders to look like that, but not a guy picked up in the 6th.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 4:35 AM MDT up reply actions
I think Brandstater's ..
tackle of the DB on that interception is one of the best tackles by a QB of all time. He put that kid DOWN.
Great game by TB, by the defense all around and I’m liking Lloyd a lot. The is his second clutch catch near the endzone where he went up and after the ball and got it. I like that kind of play.
And the cutdown is by 2 PM on Saturday, not Tuesday. Odd day to have it seems like.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
Put it this way:
The “sturdy tough guy who can throw” method of QB seems to be working for Pittsburgh – not a bad model to follow.
I don't know when...
This year, next or some other time, but Brandstater will be this team’s starter some day. Not likely this year, though he could see some time in games that count this year. With a good line, he has the talent to make it happen.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
A little hasty
but it was promising to see. Star contrast from his earlier appearances.
by rururuland784 on Sep 3, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Lloyd
Ditto on Lloyd. How tall is he? He looked tall out on the field, but then a shot of him next to Eddie made it look like he was only slightly taller than Royal.
Loved seeing the defense make plays tonight!
All those tackles! Wow… no more Ole! defense.
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
No lie
I broke 2 phones on account of being mad at the Ole D of 08-09. I think Sprint will drop me if I keep this up.
Also
The best game I have seen from Moss. I wonder if it will be too little, too late or if it will do him some good.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
Against 2nd and 3rd stringers he looked solid.
by rururuland784 on Sep 3, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions
IF JM turns out to be a mediocre player
That would be a blessing.
by rururuland784 on Sep 3, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
well, he's not a starter so who else is he going to play against?
I’m not saying jump up and down for 4th preseason performances but…
tough to read into any performances from tonight too much, but hopefully he’ll make the team.
He Looked Good
But Moss looked winded after every play. That bothered me more than the quality of the plays he made. On the other hand being out of shape can be fixed. You can’t fix stoopid.
I made a comment elsewhere ...
I think Moss was just playing his ass off. Conditioning was part of it, but I think he was throwing 110% of what he had on every play and it was wearing him out. He knew he was fighting for his career.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 4:39 AM MDT up reply actions
McKinley on practice squad
That’s how I’d play it. Lloyd made clutch catches and McKinley had the opportunity, and did not. They would have been tough catches by McKinley, but they were still catchable.
I could see McKinley picked up by a teeam short WRs
but still worth the chance cause we could just sign him
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I think they will keep 6 WRs
Marshall, Royal, Stokely, Gaffney, McKinley and Lloyd… you never know what you are going to get with BMarsh and you need at least 5 WRs if you run the spread offense.
not to mention Cowbell's soft soft hands
"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 4, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Sooooo
If I’m reading these comments correctly, Royal, Marshall, Stokely, Gaffney, McKinley or Lloyd in the fith and sixth slots. That means Matthew Willis, Nate Swift and Chad Jackson should be on their way out?
Keep them both -cut chad
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by RiG on Sep 4, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions
DJ Johnson
I see he led the team in tackles. Anybody have a take on how he played?
Also, I was disappointed to see Swift didn’t have a catch.
by Leukadian on Sep 3, 2009 10:33 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Not Good Enough to make the team imo
Jack Williams probably made the last slot behind Alphonso Smith. Starters Champ & Goodman. I’ll be surprised if we keep 5 CB’s. I think Antwain Spann showed more than Moulton or Johnson.
Darius Walker has made this football team...
We will keep 4 RBs and 1 FB… Both the Broncos and McDaniels got burned last year with RB depth
- Moreno, Buckhalter, Walker, and Jordan
- Hillis at Fullback/ Running Back/ any position (just keep him in the game)
Cut Jordan
… To free up another slot for a WR or a 4th TE. We should keep Llyod and McKinley. Also, if we’re planning on running some Jumbo 3TE sets, we may want to have that 4th guy handy in case of injury.
I have really been unimpressed with LJ. He looks slow and worn out.
by SinDonor on Sep 4, 2009 3:25 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Hell yeah!!
Thanks i would have missed it. I hate the Raiders, but i love to see them just get BLOWN out.
Seattle wins the west, might make some noise in the playoffs too.
So,
Does anyone think Brandstater will make the squad.? Just kidding. Great job by the young man. I guess that answers the ‘will he be on the PS’ part, though.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
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"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
Brandstater has poise for a rookie
Was anyone else surprised by his poise in the pocket? He didn’t seem fazed by pressure and handled his mistakes well.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
stood tall.
the rook looked great. he seems like he has a good charisma, not whiny, but passionate.
i do not want to see him come in this season. i still think Orton can get it done, and brady-stater can use a few years to develop.
"I want this team to be tough, smart and prepared to play well under pressure...Everybody here in this organization is going to be held accountable to do their job — their piece of the puzzle to make this team a competitor for a championship every season." J-Mac
by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 3, 2009 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions
agreed
last thing we want to do is throw him to the wolves his rookie year..especially with this schedule. Let him continue to develop, and we have ourselves the QB of the future. :-)
"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com
by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 4, 2009 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
His mechanics were there and the poise was good
We all know he has the mind.
This guy, with some time, will be the starter.
Verklempt
For those afraid to ask, it basically means overcome with emotion. “I can’t get this smile off my face…”
GO BRONCOS !!!
GO BRONCOS !!!
by CraigMorton07 on Sep 3, 2009 11:01 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
HAHA yeah, I got it from the old Michael Myers SNL Coffee Talk skit
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
Missed the game watching Boise State
GO OTHER BRONCOS!
Sounds like a good last tune-up all around though. Excited for week 1!
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