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Thoughts, 04.09.09

If your first thought is that I got the date wrong, I didn't. It is actually the 4th already here, and this game took place entirely on the 4th of September for those of us across the Atlantic.  Time is a strange thing, like, if you died in a different country, would your official time of death be based on the time zone in which you died or the one of your country of origin? Imagine this:  if you were born in Japan instead of, say, Denver, your birthdate may have been a day earlier. What if your parents were on holiday there at the time? You'd be born on the 4th of September, while your grandparents would be celebrating the birth of their grandson on the 3rd! How unlucky is it for those twins that were born just a few minutes apart... one on the 31st of December, 1999; the other on the 1st of January, 2000. They were born in different millennia! I'm so befuddled! Are you?

Star-divide

Unfortunately, I missed a good amount of the game, so this won't be anything definitive. I did notice a few things, though...

BAD THOUGHTS (STRONG BAD'S COOL GAME FOR ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE ISN'T A VERY GOOD GAME):

Too many field goals. The excuse here is that the quarterback is still getting into system and a rookie, but if this were a regular season game, I'd be slightly disquieted, this offense needs to score more points, especially if their possessions are coming off turnovers, but it's the final game of pre-season, so we'll have to see...

The weak link seems to be at the LILB spot (Andra Davis), and this frustrates me immensely. A lot of people want Spencer Larsen to start instead of Davis, and although the logical side of me wants to agree, the sentimental part wants to hang onto Andra. I just dig the guy, he's someone I want to root for, and so, although I'm ordinarily a rational person, I have to lock rationality in the box I keep sanity and fresh underwear when it comes to the subject of defending the seams.  But if I let myself be rational, Davis has a problem in pass coverage, every one of us already knew this (and I don't doubt it), and in obvious passing downs, he should be subbed for someone better in coverage. Larsen may eventually take the starting job away (can anyone be down on Larsen playing next to DJ?), sucks but that's how it goes. With Andra in, Shannon Sharpe would do what Shannon does, so something needs to change. It disheartens me, though, to hear someone call a 30-year-old man "old and slow."

GOOD THOUGHTS (GUTE GEDANKEN):

In my last post, I reflected on the amount of penalties the Broncos committed. Hopefully that last game really was just a troll, stopping by and getting himself banned before things get dirty, because there was a definite improvement in this area from what we saw. More discipline, and less sloppy play (until the end).

The defense continues to improve leaps and bounds (I'm so cliché!).  Quarterback pressure, turnovers, and stopping the run, they're doing it. This smoke has discovered it's shape; time together, now, will only make them better.

I wanted to see the younger guys and bubble players play better... and, boy, did they ever! David Bruton had a fumble recovery and an interception, while laying some nice hits.  Robert Ayers played well and got a sack, I believe. Jarvis Moss made not one play (I know, surprise!), but several. Cutting this man got trickier, and I'm really glad he played like he did, he seemed to have a fire in his heart. The other 3rd teamers played well, too, and we have to give them props for keeping the game as a shutout.  Arizona appears to be making a few drives here and there, but they stopped each and every one of them, with a few 3-and-outs thrown in. What they did was make what could have been an apparently "close" 19-14 (or whatever) game turn into an impressive 19-zilch game. It's pre-season, so scores don't matter... to us. 3-13 doomsayers from behind the Rockies have their ears pricked, now.  Great work, guys.

Tom Brandstater looked great. He made some mistakes, but he's a rookie, he'll make those. He also drove the team down the field and put points on the board. I want to see what he looks like in two years. Forget how similar his name is to Tom Brady's, we're doing him a disservice trying to compare him to someone - currently - out of his league, let the man breathe his own air. If we let Tom develop and mature, without trying to put him on some pedestal already, we may have a very (very) solid starting quarterback here.

RANDOM THINGS I NOTICED DURING THE GAME THAT INCLUDES NON-FOOTBALL THINGS BUT MOSTLY FEATURES FOOTBALL-RELATED THINGS SO DON'T BAN ME FOR POSTING THINGS NOT RELATED TO FOOTBALL THINGS OR BRONCOS THINGS. THINGS, THINGS, THINGS:

1. On one possession, they cut to Mike Nolan, where he appeared to be counting the amount of men on the field before a punt.

2. Vic Lombardi sat behind something called a "Sonic table" or something or other. Besides his... well, unappealing performance, pretending to be Ron Burgundy on a football field was silly.

3. I know I've mentioned Jarvis already, but I give me a quick minute. Some people thought the only reason he came back was to get cut later on and avoid paying back the money he'd owe the team. From the way he played, I'd say this line of thinking is incorrect. If the Broncos cut him, I believe he'll want to find a place on a different team, not retire, and he is playing like he doesn't want to get cut. I'm really impressed, the easy road isn't sometime simply giving up, but he's going to go down fighting instead. I certainly hope he doesn't go down; he has talent, he just needs coaching. Again, I love to see that fire in someone, I'll root for someone with passion more than an overly-talented, bored athlete any day.

4. Ingle Martin's first throw was nearly (and should have been) intercepted. The first advice he got was likely, "Throw it away." That was the smartest thing to do, but I don't blame him for going for it.  3rd down, one chance to get a 1st. Now's your chance to prove your worth to the team, because you likely won't be making it unless you really show then something. Perhaps he wasn't so much trying to get a first down as make the team with this one throw.  Interestingly, though, I wonder if McD would have been more impressed if he had thrown it away.

5. After (or during) one series, Brandstater went to the sideline. Josh pinched his jersey (with two or three fingers) and dragged him closer, and then proceeded to give him an earful. He may have looked a little aggressive, but at the same time, you could see he was teaching him something valuable.

6. Another time, after Kern struggled to down it in the 20 again, by sending it into the endzone (Kern looked incredibly frustrated), McDaniels motioned to him that he wanted a quick word. Kern's next punt went out of bounds inside the 20 (maybe wrong on the location), and the team hi-fived him on the sidelines. I noticed Josh hi-fived him too.

Now, I may be wrong, but I always thought punters were below the kickers in their worth to a team's locker room. Special Teams is important, but I didn't think a coach cared enough to care about the punter, but taking a few seconds to hi-five him after a good kick really struck me.  Again, I could be wrong, but I see this as another sign of McD as a coach on the field. He'll criticise the player when he needs to be criticised, and he'll praise him when he should be praised, even if this player is a lowly punter (no offence). I dig this coach. That bullhockey of him being some tyrant drill sergeant is pathetic nonsense.

7. Retired for teh Elwayz.

8. I haven't watered my plants in a while, and it's beginning to show.

9. After the game, DJ hung out with Larry Fitzgerald. I wonder what they were talking about.

10. Ronald Fields looked mightily satisfied after the game. Eddie, to me, looked slightly awkward.

11. Players and coaches from both the Broncos and Cardinals prayed together in the middle of the field when the game was done. My thoughts on religion put aside, it's good to see the members of opposing teams in such a violent sport put that all away and spend some time together reflecting.

...OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

Well, that's all folks! This isn't as much as I wanted, but you'll have to settle for it because I don't bend over nobody, yo. Except the doctor. Not that doctor, sick man.

I need to go eat!

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Using a towel or tissue.
40 votes
Getting my cat to lick it up or licking it up myself.
36 votes
Crying.
24 votes

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by John Bena on Sep 4, 2009 3:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not April 9, 2009!

It’s 9-4-09.

I am just playin’/ ;)

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 4, 2009 7:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol, never!

It’s 4-9-09 and I’ll never change it!!!! :p

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 2:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only the US uses that method.....but it is good to use both!!!

Nice read Temp!!!!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 6, 2009 1:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was Andra really that bad?

I had to watch this game online, and it was pretty choppy. I can’t imagine he had trouble against the run. Was he shotty in coverage or missing tackles?

Great Read btw! Rec’d

by elvisalex on Sep 4, 2009 4:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Elvis.

No, I wouldn’t say he was that bad, but here’s an interesting thought…

According to hoosierteacher (on one of the weaknesses of the 5-2):

First, the pass rush needs to be effective because there are less LBs to cover zones in the center of the mid-range field. This weakness can be over the middle or in the seams – wherever the LBs aren’t.

Second, while the 5 D-Linemen up front are a good barrier against the run, a failure to tackle can lead to a larger gain (because there are less LBs to make a second contact).

So here’s what I think:

In order to be as effective as possible in a 5-2, you need to have linebackers that are very capable in coverage. Even with good linebackers, the offense can simply throw, as HT says, to the part of the field the linebackers aren’t covering. If the linebackers are stellar in covering the tight ends and running backs, they can make up for this weakness, partly at least. Andra may fail here.

Davis helps solve the second problem, however, because he’s an excellent run stopper.

So, essentially, the Broncos must think his positives (run-stopping and especially veteran leadership) outweigh his negatives.

(Sorry, I think I went past your question here! No, he wasn’t, but he is a weakness in the passing game.)

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 2:29 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted for the cat

Great read, I’m going to ponder on the birthday thing for a while. Liked your thoughts at the end. Sometimes its the little things that matter most. You should go water your plants now.

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by Bronctillidie on Sep 4, 2009 5:28 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read

Your comment about “something called a Sonic table” made me curious, though. Are you originally from the US? I’m just wondering if you know what Sonic is…

by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 5:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

UK Hamburgers

Having lived in England, I can unequivocably state that England has the world’s worst hamburgers! Wimpy Burgers (gag me!)

Tempestuous, you may not know that Sonic is a chain of drive-through hamburger, hot dog, etc.. Pretty good burgers.

by Endzone on Sep 4, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS To state-siders

Wimpy Burgers is a UK hamburger chain. yuck and double-yuck plastic hockey pucks!

by Endzone on Sep 4, 2009 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

never lived there but i’ve visited and holy cow, wimpy burgers are pure horse puck. britain does NOT understand the hamburger. BLECCHHH.

by oxmouth on Sep 4, 2009 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny story...

There’s a Wimpy restaurant where I used to live in South Africa, and they had the greatest ham and cheese snackwiches I ever had. They used to make me drool just thinking of them. I’ve never had a burger from Wimpy, though, so I can’t comment on that, but I have had an English burger that doesn’t come from McDonald’s or Burger King, and I agree. I’d stay away from them; hamburgers seem like such an American thing, anyway, I’d rather have classic fish and chips.

Thanks for the info, the only Sonic I know is blue and runs really fast.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do now.

Still, I mean, he’s standing behind this huge desk, in front of the cheerleaders, no less, reading people’s text messages. I’d cringe if that’s what I had to do, because he looked really silly.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 3:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

such a horrible set up

didn’t you dread when gary and reggie rivers would say, “let’s check in with vic…” ugh. do we have to?…

by oxmouth on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great read thank you very much. Covered a lot of aspects for us who didnt see the game… appreciated!

Was wondering though, you said Eddie Royal looked awkward after the game, in what sense?

Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands

by BroncosNL on Sep 4, 2009 6:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

he probably saw his taco bell commercial for the first time

by lolcopter on Sep 4, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Sep 4, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lolcopter

Be careful. You could cause another Lolcano to erupt.

In It to Win It

It's Orange Crush Time

by USMCWall on Sep 5, 2009 2:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just like what oxmouth said below...

He looked like a kid. I guess in the glow of it all and the maturity with which he treats everything, you forget how young he really is, and that only jumped out at me when I saw him there.

And you’re welcome, NL.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 3:33 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice feature, TB!!!!

And solid analysis. Keep them coming.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Sep 4, 2009 6:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

#10

hilariousl! i saw the exact moment you’re talking about and thought the same thing. eddie was kind of of by himself looking like he was at the punchbowl at a junior high dance. it made me grin.

by oxmouth on Sep 4, 2009 6:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

#6

You know, it is Mike Shanahan who didn’t give a hoot about punters or kickers…

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 4, 2009 7:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job and rec'd

It particularly warms my heart to see other people retiring #7 for John Elway now too. Great stuff :)

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Sep 4, 2009 7:58 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That was really good idea, Ted...

Nice way of showing your respect.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 3:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted 'Crying', and that was dedicated to our former QB

Great post, TB.

Maybe it’s my new man-crush on Mike Nolan, but I thought it was pretty cool that he was counting guys on a ST down. Seems like a DC would be totally in the right to just focus on his phase of the game, but I thought that was pretty cool.

Loved that the backups on D seemed to keep up the same level of intensity that the starters did, and the defensive playcalling seemed to stay pretty aggressive. Also loved that we made it out of there with no injuries to speak of. Most importantly, we were treated to a plethora of juicy turnovers. I loved the variety of turnovers, too.

Worried (not much) about the RZ production, but it was very good to see a rushing TD. Walker has to make this team. ST still scares me a little bit.

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by jubei on Sep 4, 2009 8:19 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"

by MikeD55 on Sep 4, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Totally agree with all your points, Jubei. I was really excited when Nolan was hired, I really dig him.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work Binary...

Thanks, now go water your plants……….

by bchiper on Sep 4, 2009 8:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royal

Anyone else see his Taco Bell commercials? I think he could definitely work on his acting.

A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 4, 2009 9:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see it

I’m going to have to see if I can find it on YouTube.

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 4, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know it was preseason and the scrubs were playing quite a bit

but we were getting some pressure with a four man rush, which is always nice to see

by lolcopter on Sep 4, 2009 9:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I liked seeing that. I liked it a lot, but...

…maybe it just means the Cardinals lack O-line depth.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 4, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post!

Glad to rec it, PO

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Sep 4, 2009 9:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Bear.

(But who’s PO?)

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha i thought this was going to be about cutler

cause i read the date as april 4th.

but very good post

by purplesocks on Sep 4, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

oops.

meant to say read the date as april 9th

by purplesocks on Sep 4, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way!

Bringing him up in a comment makes me feel dirty, let alone an entire post!

Thanks.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Hate Cats

and Vic Lombardi HAS to go. I noticed #5 also. Josh got Brandstater’s attention and calmly instructed him. No yelling or berating. And yeah, high-fiving the punter is cool too. Thanks TB.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 4, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

dont worry, lombardi will be gone

once the reg season starts and the games switch over to a national broadcast

by purplesocks on Sep 4, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saints be praised !

A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.

Louis L’Amour

by bradley on Sep 4, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind cats, but snakes... well...

I think so, too, he was a waste of space during the game.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

on #1

after counting, we see a bronco running late onto the field for the punt coverage unit, nolan noticed too few men out there and communicated it to the sideline. funny little details. but it shows how complex this game really is.

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by denver_diaspora on Sep 4, 2009 10:16 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good eye!

Obviously, his counting wasn’t just for show.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it curious that we're the only country that

puts the month before the day when writing dates?

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Sep 4, 2009 10:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

not to mention

one of the few that doesn’t use the metric system.

Teaching measurement to special ed kids over the years has been real fun. Not.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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by BShrout on Sep 5, 2009 2:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your country is really weird.

Is there a reason for this, though? Putting the month first seems contrary to logic.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is the reason, to stand out by being illogical.

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by odarol on Sep 5, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah But

You guys drive on the wrong side of the road!

by Endzone on Sep 5, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not The Only One

Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date

I prefer the ISO standard used in China, but hey! They only difference from the US system is putting the year first.

by Endzone on Sep 5, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the reference!

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Sep 5, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention

have you considered the tax implications of that second twin not popping out until the next year. Miss a whole year’s deduction. I’d be jumping on my wife’s belly.

by Bradoncadonc on Sep 4, 2009 10:42 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow, I hadn't.

This is more proof that time was a badly thought-out invention.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for sharing your observations

And humor – great read and rec’d!

  1. - Always good to see good sportsmanship in a game.

Same with Our players helping their players up after a play, or vice versa – that’s always a good show of sportsmanship and character (unless it’s a big game, I can understand not doing so in a stressful game).

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 4, 2009 10:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I always forget if you put a number sign

it automatically designates it as number 1

Supposed to be no. 11

First team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! and then some, right? I think four and we oughtta let someone else have a fair shot : )

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 4, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

After the Oregon/Boise State game, a running punch an opposing player… he’s been suspended for the rest of the season, I believe, and will now likely be drafted several rounds later than he was originally projected (1st-2nd round).

I’ve always noticed when opposing players would help up another man or talk to him if he was being taken off the field, it’s a reminder that our humanity still exists even in such a brutal sport.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dig this coach
I could be wrong, but I see this as another sign of McD as a coach on the field. He’ll criticise the player when he needs to be criticised, and he’ll praise him when he should be praised, even if this player is a lowly punter (no offence). I dig this coach. That bullhockey of him being some tyrant drill sergeant is pathetic nonsense.

I like you am still impressed with McDaniels; with all that goes on during the game – He still makes a point to be a Coach first. Every time there was a break in the action – the camera focused on McDaniels reviewing the previous plays with the QB. Josh was sitting on the bench next to the QB – coaching him. Sitting on the bench with the QB says “You are important to me- right now at this moment”, it does not matter what else is going on. This is a simple indication of good coaching and leadership by McDaniels.

To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.

by Broncobh on Sep 4, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Also Impressed

McD spent a lot of time with Brandstater. He yelled, cajoled, counselled, taught, … I’m sure he won’t do much of that during regular season games though.

by Endzone on Sep 4, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps not.

Still good to see him coaching, though, not just focusing on the playbook or randomly shouting at the players.

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoyable read. kthnx :-)

"When a new coach comes in and expects hard work, a team attitude and personal accountability over a personal thirst for glory, I won’t fault him for the reactions of a few selfish individual." ~Hunter Ansley, InDenverTimes.com

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 4, 2009 2:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

totally fun

thank you very much

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

btw

rec’d

and I love the way you put the date. I have a friend who’s an ex-Navy pilot, and his notation is like that. It’s always 4 Sep 2009, etc.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Sep 4, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, B.

Is that common with Navy pilots?

"Misunderstatements."

by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 5, 2009 5:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems to be common with the few military people I know

that and geneologists. :)

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Sep 5, 2009 8:35 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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